<< <i>What do you guy's think it will sell for or shuld it sell for?
I'm thinking $5K to $10K. >>
I'm thinking under $1k... the pop reports are showing roughly 500-600 coins graded so far with 3 of them getting 70 (2 position A, 1 position . Lots more probably already at PCGS being graded and lots more likely to come. There will almost certainly be more 70s to come...
I'm actually shocked PCGS 69s are getting over $100... some up to around $200!!! 69 is not that hard to get on these... Looking at the pops so far roughly 80-85% of the coins are getting MS69 so that is the norm.
Are there album type holders for PCGS Slabs? This enhanced coin has inspired me to start a collection of Sacks and NA $1's. The cornerstone of my collection will be the 2000 PCGS MS67 I bought from Legend ( now thats one rare coin ). Im not obsessed enough to blow cash on MS/PRF 70 , I suppose much less will fulfill my needs.
<< <i>Are there album type holders for PCGS Slabs? This enhanced coin has inspired me to start a collection of Sacks and NA $1's. The cornerstone of my collection will be the 2000 PCGS MS67 I bought from Legend ( now thats one rare coin ). Im not obsessed enough to blow cash on MS/PRF 70 , I suppose much less will fulfill my needs. >>
The Mint finally acknowledged the four sets I returned. I asked for replacements. I got a refund. Oh well, after giving a few away at Christmas, I still have another score sets I'm gonna put away, I think.
<< <i>I would rather buy a cheerios sac for 10K than this MS 70. >>
I know that this is very much OT for this thread but...does anyone know what the Cheerios Sacs were selling for shortly after discovery? I was not much into coins when they were "discovered." Thanks.
<< <i>... the pop reports are showing roughly 500-600 coins graded so far with 3 of them getting 70 (2 position A, 1 position . Lots more probably already at PCGS being graded and lots more likely to come. >>
Three PCGS 70's out of 500 coins equates to 300 70's out of the total mintage of 50,000. Or 150 for each position. Reduce that number for coins that were prescreened and rejected before submission to the TPG services, for owners that intend to keep their sets intact, and for those submitting to other TPG services. I'll be surprised if the total number of PGCS 70's, Positions A and B combined, reaches triple digits.
Illini. That "80%" is deceiving. For example, I carefully screened 297 sets in my early submissions and submitted less than (80) coins in total. So, 217+ of mine in lesser grades are not in the pop report because PCGS never got the coins. You get the point.
Raufus. Thank you for the good wishes. More than 80% of my First Strike submitted coins are not even graded yet. If I do not slab a number of 70's from those I will be disappointed.
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<< <i>Illini. That "80%" is deceiving. For example, I carefully screened 297 sets in my early submissions and submitted less than (80) coins in total. So, 217+ of mine in lesser grades are not in the pop report because PCGS never got the coins. You get the point.
Wondercoin >>
Totally... thanks for the clarification. Will be interesting to see the pop reports settle a bit after submissions of the sealed boxes start now that the First Strike deadline has passed. Good luck in getting some 70s!
I know that this is very much OT for this thread but...does anyone know what the Cheerios Sacs were selling for shortly after discovery? I was not much into coins when they were "discovered." Thanks.
If I remember not for much. At around $2500 I think. I remember some threads way back then, not sure if they can be located.
<< <i>Are there album type holders for PCGS Slabs? This enhanced coin has inspired me to start a collection of Sacks and NA $1's. The cornerstone of my collection will be the 2000 PCGS MS67 I bought from Legend ( now thats one rare coin ). Im not obsessed enough to blow cash on MS/PRF 70 , I suppose much less will fulfill my needs. >>
Hey thanks for that lead. These album pages are going to make me a much more active participant in the market. I've had it with buying Coins over the net (except for US Mint ), but I suppose I'll start attending the larger shows in Metro Detroit. I'll be working on Ikes, SBA's, Sackies and the Native Americans $1's. Also at a slower pace, my classic type and classic Commemorative type sets.
Rooting for you Mitch!!! I hope to see a happy 70 post from you. You certainly deserve it :-)
BTW, re: the seller of the 70's comments: "Do I think the coin will sell for the Buy It Now price, NO, but it's fun to list something with such a big number! However, given the rarity of this coin, I figured I would consider serious offers. If the coin ends up selling for $200, that's great!" I offered him $500 which he promptly turned down. So much for "if it ends up selling for $200, that's great!"
Edited: The following is a note from the seller w/the decline offer notice:
"Thank you for your offer. I'm still getting quite a few offers on this coin and they are still going up. I may just list this in a 10 day auction instead of trying to pick an offer that's reasonable for this coin. I don't know it's value. Regards"
This will be interesting to watch. Seems like a very solid seller w/a long history of numismatic sales. He really lucked out with the 70.
Rooting for you Mitch!!! I hope to see a happy 70 post from you. You certainly deserve it :-)
BTW, re: the seller of the 70's comments: "Do I think the coin will sell for the Buy It Now price, NO, but it's fun to list something with such a big number! However, given the rarity of this coin, I figured I would consider serious offers. If the coin ends up selling for $200, that's great!" I offered him $500 which he promptly turned down. So much for "if it ends up selling for $200, that's great!" >>
The coin isn't "rare", as stated, either. The coin has a "condition rarity" due to the plastic and slab label. All hype for the $$$
I think they are sold out I would move on. They are selling in PCGS MS69 holders for around $160+ and $250+ a pair Type 'A' and 'B', Raw $40 to $50 a set.
<< <i>Any more 70 graded? Any sold? Who is selling on the bay? Any one. >>
I had 180 sets sealed in the boxes on eBay... ended up selling them off eBay to a local dealer instead of playing the grading game. I had an email into PCGS regarding bulk grading that never got answered so helped make that decision a little easier... oh well.
<< <i>Any more 70 graded? Any sold? Who is selling on the bay? Any one. >>
I had 180 sets sealed in the boxes on eBay... ended up selling them off eBay to a local dealer instead of playing the grading game. I had an email into PCGS regarding bulk grading that never got answered so helped make that decision a little easier... oh well. >>
That's sad. They are so far behind I guess new business doesn't matter at this point. I can't believe my order from December 2nd still hasn't been touched. I suspect many thousands of these coins are sitting waiting to be graded yet.
Same here -- my kids have about 5 sets still showing b/o status. Would be good to know if they will SHIP OR NOT!
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<< <i>I see one from NGC ms70. Sold for $10,000.00 HOLY COW !!!! Was sold on eBay
As for me I'm happy with my ms69 that I paid 49 bucks for , I just like the coin and always like anything that is Native American. >>
Amazing huh? What happened to Jesse's PCGS MS70 for $150K?
Nice to hear from a Native American coin collector here -- there has been posts on this thread claiming there aren't any! (I'm with ya)
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Is any one sending there box's in or are they just selling them raw? or are you sitting on them. I sent in 26 picked coins sold 40+ raw and holding 200 in box's.
Thanks to MsMorrisine and Type 2 for the help with the page. I recently did a "live chat" about the order. They will only say you will see the charge on your credit card when Mint decides to fill. Strange way to do business.
Markets (governments) can remain irrational longer than an investor can remain solvent.
<< <i>Is any one sending there box's in or are they just selling them raw? or are you sitting on them. I sent in 26 picked coins sold 40+ raw and holding 200 in box's. >>
I've got 10, raw, unopened and FS eligible. Conundrum for me is I want to keep 3-4, raw, for myself and my son, but if I open the box, they are no longer FS eligible. I really don't want to pay to send them in, hence the conundrum.
So, I open them, and lose FS for the ones I sell. Or, I sell them all and have to pay for possibly picked over ones (may be better or worse than my own...since I haven't opened my box) at the higher rate.....
<< <i>Is any one sending there box's in or are they just selling them raw? or are you sitting on them. I sent in 26 picked coins sold 40+ raw and holding 200 in box's. >>
I've got 10, raw, unopened and FS eligible. Conundrum for me is I want to keep 3-4, raw, for myself and my son, but if I open the box, they are no longer FS eligible. I really don't want to pay to send them in, hence the conundrum.
So, I open them, and lose FS for the ones I sell. Or, I sell them all and have to pay for possibly picked over ones (may be better or worse than my own...since I haven't opened my box) at the higher rate..... >>
I took it down because I could not respond to all the offers. My work has me unavailable for most of the day right now and I've been getting some nasty messages as well. Apparently people are very unhappy that I have this coin or are unhappy I could not respond to an offer on 5 minutes.
Same here -- my kids have about 5 sets still showing b/o status. Would be good to know if they will SHIP OR NOT! >>
From customer service at the mint regarding back orders: (translation: don't hold your breath)
<<< Due to overwhelming demand, the product reached its production limit in sales quickly. The United States Mint accepted a limited number of orders on a waiting list in the event that products became available due to order cancellations. Waiting list orders are not guaranteed and are only fulfilled if inventory becomes available. At this time, we can only confirm that your order is on the waiting list. As we continue to process orders for the American $1 Coin and Currency Set, there may be cancellations that allow us to fulfill some portion of the waiting list orders. Although you may have received an order confirmation and backorder communications, these should not have been taken as a guarantee that your order would be fulfilled. If you no longer would like the American $1 Coin and Currency Set you may request to have your wait listed order cancelled. Should we be able to fulfill your order, you will receive a shipping confirmation notification from us once your order has been shipped. If your order will not be processed, you will receive an order cancellation notification confirming this when your order is cancelled from our system. >>>
<< <i>I see one from NGC ms70. Sold for $10,000.00 HOLY COW !!!! Was sold on eBay >>
Actual sale price was 2K
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<< I see one from NGC ms70. Sold for $10,000.00 HOLY COW !!!! Was sold on eBay >>
Actual sale price was 2K
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Thanks I did not see that , still crazy money. I just like the design and finish. But would not pay for a 70 , would rather spend it on something else.
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<< <i>What do you guy's think it will sell for or shuld it sell for?
I'm thinking $5K to $10K. >>
I'm thinking under $1k... the pop reports are showing roughly 500-600 coins graded so far with 3 of them getting 70 (2 position A, 1 position
I'm actually shocked PCGS 69s are getting over $100... some up to around $200!!! 69 is not that hard to get on these... Looking at the pops so far roughly 80-85% of the coins are getting MS69 so that is the norm.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
<< <i>PCGS MS70 on eBay listed at $150k or best offer... might need to send mine in for grading after all
If it were a pop 1 coin... maybe that wouldn't as silly to list such a high price... but it's currently a pop 2 (with likely more to come)
Link to eBay >>
That's one of our guys listings...Way to go Jessewvu
NA $1's. The cornerstone of my collection will be the 2000 PCGS MS67 I bought from Legend ( now thats one rare coin ).
Im not obsessed enough to blow cash on MS/PRF 70 , I suppose much less will fulfill my needs.
<< <i>Are there album type holders for PCGS Slabs? This enhanced coin has inspired me to start a collection of Sacks and
NA $1's. The cornerstone of my collection will be the 2000 PCGS MS67 I bought from Legend ( now thats one rare coin ).
Im not obsessed enough to blow cash on MS/PRF 70 , I suppose much less will fulfill my needs. >>
I like and use these ... Encapslab by Lighthouse
Sugar magnolia blossoms blooming, heads all empty and I don't care ...
Box of 20
<< <i>I would rather buy a cheerios sac for 10K than this MS 70. >>
So spot on! Could not agree more.
I was hoping that Mitch got the first 70! Hopefully he'll get number 3.
<< <i>I would rather buy a cheerios sac for 10K than this MS 70. >>
I know that this is very much OT for this thread but...does anyone know what the Cheerios Sacs were selling for shortly after discovery? I was not much into coins when they were "discovered." Thanks.
<< <i>... the pop reports are showing roughly 500-600 coins graded so far with 3 of them getting 70 (2 position A, 1 position
Three PCGS 70's out of 500 coins equates to 300 70's out of the total mintage of 50,000. Or 150 for each position. Reduce that number for coins that were prescreened and rejected before submission to the TPG services, for owners that intend to keep their sets intact, and for those submitting to other TPG services. I'll be surprised if the total number of PGCS 70's, Positions A and B combined, reaches triple digits.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
It assumes those 500 came from exactly 500 worth submitting and not 5000
Single digits 70s
Raufus. Thank you for the good wishes. More than 80% of my First Strike submitted coins are not even graded yet. If I do not slab a number of 70's from those I will be disappointed.
Wondercoin
<< <i>Illini. That "80%" is deceiving. For example, I carefully screened 297 sets in my early submissions and submitted less than (80) coins in total. So, 217+ of mine in lesser grades are not in the pop report because PCGS never got the coins. You get the point.
Wondercoin >>
Totally... thanks for the clarification. Will be interesting to see the pop reports settle a bit after submissions of the sealed boxes start now that the First Strike deadline has passed. Good luck in getting some 70s!
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
If I remember not for much. At around $2500 I think. I remember some threads way back then, not sure if they can be located.
Box of 20
<< <i>
<< <i>Are there album type holders for PCGS Slabs? This enhanced coin has inspired me to start a collection of Sacks and
NA $1's. The cornerstone of my collection will be the 2000 PCGS MS67 I bought from Legend ( now thats one rare coin ).
Im not obsessed enough to blow cash on MS/PRF 70 , I suppose much less will fulfill my needs. >>
I like and use these ... Encapslab by Lighthouse >>
Hey thanks for that lead. These album pages are going to make me a much more active participant in the market. I've had it
with buying Coins over the net (except for US Mint ), but I suppose I'll start attending the larger shows in Metro Detroit.
I'll be working on Ikes, SBA's, Sackies and the Native Americans $1's. Also at a slower pace, my classic type and classic
Commemorative type sets.
Cheerios Sac Pattern
Page 6 one sold for $2500.
Box of 20
Rooting for you Mitch!!! I hope to see a happy 70 post from you. You certainly deserve it :-)
BTW, re: the seller of the 70's comments: "Do I think the coin will sell for the Buy It Now price, NO, but it's fun to list something with such a big number! However, given the rarity of this coin, I figured I would consider serious offers. If the coin ends up selling for $200, that's great!" I offered him $500 which he promptly turned down. So much for "if it ends up selling for $200, that's great!"
Edited: The following is a note from the seller w/the decline offer notice:
"Thank you for your offer. I'm still getting quite a few offers on this coin and they are still going up. I may just list this in a 10 day auction instead of trying to pick an offer that's reasonable for this coin. I don't know it's value. Regards"
This will be interesting to watch. Seems like a very solid seller w/a long history of numismatic sales. He really lucked out with the 70.
<< <i>Thanks so much for the info guys.
Rooting for you Mitch!!! I hope to see a happy 70 post from you. You certainly deserve it :-)
BTW, re: the seller of the 70's comments: "Do I think the coin will sell for the Buy It Now price, NO, but it's fun to list something with such a big number! However, given the rarity of this coin, I figured I would consider serious offers. If the coin ends up selling for $200, that's great!" I offered him $500 which he promptly turned down. So much for "if it ends up selling for $200, that's great!" >>
The coin isn't "rare", as stated, either. The coin has a "condition rarity" due to the plastic and slab label. All hype for the $$$
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>I remember this thread from 2005
Cheerios Sac Pattern
Page 6 one sold for $2500. >>
I wish that I was in the game then. I would really love one of these. A bridge too far at present.
Hoard the keys.
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>Anyone have an update, I'm still on backorder? >>
Me too, if they are sold out I wish they would say so, so I could "MOVE ON"
<< <i>Any more 70 graded? Any sold? Who is selling on the bay? Any one.
I had 180 sets sealed in the boxes on eBay... ended up selling them off eBay to a local dealer instead of playing the grading game. I had an email into PCGS regarding bulk grading that never got answered so helped make that decision a little easier... oh well.
Michael Kittle Rare Coins --- 1908-S Indian Head Cent Grading Set --- No. 1 1909 Mint Set --- Kittlecoins on Facebook --- Long Beach Table 448
<< <i>
<< <i>Any more 70 graded? Any sold? Who is selling on the bay? Any one.
I had 180 sets sealed in the boxes on eBay... ended up selling them off eBay to a local dealer instead of playing the grading game. I had an email into PCGS regarding bulk grading that never got answered so helped make that decision a little easier... oh well. >>
That's sad. They are so far behind I guess new business doesn't matter at this point. I can't believe my order from December 2nd still hasn't been touched. I suspect many thousands of these coins are sitting waiting to be graded yet.
Was sold on eBay
As for me I'm happy with my ms69 that I paid 49 bucks for , I just like the coin and always like anything that is Native American.
<< <i>12/4... stuck in backorder status >>
No kidding. Same with my order of 12/11. I wonder if I'll ever see it?
Jim
<< <i>12/4... stuck in backorder status >>
Same here -- my kids have about 5 sets still showing b/o status. Would be good to know if they will SHIP OR NOT!
<< <i>I see one from NGC ms70. Sold for $10,000.00 HOLY COW !!!!
Was sold on eBay
As for me I'm happy with my ms69 that I paid 49 bucks for , I just like the coin and always like anything that is Native American. >>
Amazing huh? What happened to Jesse's PCGS MS70 for $150K?
Nice to hear from a Native American coin collector here -- there has been posts on this thread claiming there aren't any! (I'm with ya)
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>Is any one sending there box's in or are they just selling them raw? or are you sitting on them.
I've got 10, raw, unopened and FS eligible.
Conundrum for me is I want to keep 3-4, raw, for myself and my son, but if I open the box, they are no longer FS eligible.
I really don't want to pay to send them in, hence the conundrum.
So, I open them, and lose FS for the ones I sell.
Or, I sell them all and have to pay for possibly picked over ones (may be better or worse than my own...since I haven't opened my box) at the higher rate.....
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>
<< <i>Is any one sending there box's in or are they just selling them raw? or are you sitting on them.
I've got 10, raw, unopened and FS eligible.
Conundrum for me is I want to keep 3-4, raw, for myself and my son, but if I open the box, they are no longer FS eligible.
I really don't want to pay to send them in, hence the conundrum.
So, I open them, and lose FS for the ones I sell.
Or, I sell them all and have to pay for possibly picked over ones (may be better or worse than my own...since I haven't opened my box) at the higher rate..... >>
Maybe we can work some thing out Ck your PM.
Hoard the keys.
<< <i>I see one from NGC ms70. Sold for $10,000.00 HOLY COW !!!!
Was sold on eBay
As for me I'm happy with my ms69 that I paid 49 bucks for , I just like the coin and always like anything that is Native American. >>
What a score for the seller - a virtual lottery win. Unreal.
<< <i>
<< <i>12/4... stuck in backorder status >>
Same here -- my kids have about 5 sets still showing b/o status. Would be good to know if they will SHIP OR NOT! >>
From customer service at the mint regarding back orders: (translation: don't hold your breath)
<<< Due to overwhelming demand, the product reached its production limit in sales quickly. The United States Mint accepted a limited number of orders on a waiting list in the event that products became available due to order cancellations. Waiting list orders are not guaranteed and are only fulfilled if inventory becomes available. At this time, we can only confirm that your order is on the waiting list. As we continue to process orders for the American $1 Coin and Currency Set, there may be cancellations that allow us to fulfill some portion of the waiting list orders. Although you may have received an order confirmation and backorder communications, these should not have been taken as a guarantee that your order would be fulfilled. If you no longer would like the American $1 Coin and Currency Set you may request to have your wait listed order cancelled. Should we be able to fulfill your order, you will receive a shipping confirmation notification from us once your order has been shipped. If your order will not be processed, you will receive an order cancellation notification confirming this when your order is cancelled from our system. >>>
<< <i>I see one from NGC ms70. Sold for $10,000.00 HOLY COW !!!! Was sold on eBay >>
Actual sale price was 2K
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<< <i>Another ten days later .. still no coins back from PCGS myself. Maybe next week.
Wondercoin >>
Same here i don't have many in for grading on the this one. This is your 2nd order right? is it a big one?
Hoard the keys.
Wondercoin
<< <i>Type 2 ... Yes, second order of any substance. A big enough order that it needed to be broken down on a couple submission invoices.
Wondercoin >>
LOL
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<< I see one from NGC ms70. Sold for $10,000.00 HOLY COW !!!! Was sold on eBay >>
Actual sale price was 2K
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Thanks I did not see that , still crazy money.
I just like the design and finish. But would not pay for a 70 , would rather spend it on something else.
(l8-)>>
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