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  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And another, PC64:

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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    4th try, PC64:

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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope PCGS fixes this soon, PC30:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dale Friend's proof 1910 half (PCGS PR66 CAM). On its way from Heritage. It sold for 15% less than it brought in 2006, which is fine by me. Makes a nice pairing with my PCGS PR66 quarter.

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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Doug for letting us know about the JJ Teaparty consignment.
    I was talking with Lenny and he mentioned that he had picked up a
    couple .. So, I ventured down with him., and browsed their NEWPS from
    the consignment you spoke of. Nice coins. Nothing to fit my set though.
    Seems the Halves were too mint state like and the Quarters were too new
    looking for my tastes.

    Lenny, myself, Dr. & Mrs. Peter Shireman, Dave Wollinka ( SROTAG COLLECTION )
    { Barber Dimes, Quarter and Halves sets } and Frank Giamai ( Arcs En Ceil Barber Dime Registry ).
    went out for dinner at the Capitol Grille. Amazing meal, ridiculously great wine and the best
    of company rounded out the very busy day.

    Today, will be a short day - these shows are killers - and am looking forward to checking out a few dealers
    I missed yesterday. Planning on stopping at table 1434 to see Glenn Holsonbake, he recently picked up a
    great group of Halves - and he is in the process of determining which should be Regraded, CAC'd or just
    reholdered. He also has a nice selection of Dimes and Quarters as well. Finances limited me from picking up
    a good Bakers Dozen !

    Will search out Darrell - didn't see him yesterday. Chatted with Kathleen Duncan yesterday. She had her usual
    amount of knock out gems, and it's always a pleasure speaking with her. I also met up with Jon Potts ( Dimeman )
    and he was still looking for his Holy Grail... what ever it is, it's known only to him !!
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    I had one of the most pleasant experiences yesterday as well when I saw Jeff From Tampa. He has become quite
    the accomplished photographer and he wanted to show me a leather bound book he had brought with him. It was
    as professionally done as any I have ever seen. All his Halves were lovingly imaged in a side by side format with
    the TPG label at the top. The images were printed in "matte form" ( non glare ) and it was a joy to study, page by page.
    Thanks again, Jeff. Your album eclipses my albums - and one of these days, I would love to transform my sets into
    your format.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • daveyndaveyn Posts: 150 ✭✭
    Really looking forward to some coin pics from the FUN show, sounds like there was plenty there to look at. I need to get to work on my pic taking also, bought a 100mm macro lens and haven't really used it much yet.

  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ron - Beautiful proof half, congratulations.

    Mike - Sounds like a great time. Hope to see Jeff's printed images someday.

    Pics for this AM, one of Doug's beauties, PC55. He liked this one so much (so do I), he sold me his PC58.

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    Vern
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    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    I remember posting about my experiences on the bourse,
    but the thread is once again stuck.

    Anyway, I just unloaded my brief case at home and I found my David Kahn
    Receipt. My memory is fading... No wonder the YN's at Glenn's table called me
    an old Geezer...image..... Ha ha ... Damn kids should be seen and not heard !! image

    I picked up three coins at David's table, they are:

    (1) 1895-S PCGS 58 - paid almost double from the one I bought
    last June for the 55 I got off a Heritage auction. Believe me, it's
    REALLY NICE !!! .

    (2) 1910 Phila issue - PCGS 58 CAC - which will replace my "old"
    (which is also an) AU 58 - purchased from a Great Collections auction
    this past February, for which I paid $30 more for at GC, without a CAC !
    This newest 1910 has all the snappy luster you'd ever want.

    (3) 1916 Phila issue - PCGS 58 OGH - CAC which replaces my AU 55.
    This coin has a wash of light Amber toning over both sides. Again, the
    luster is not to be believed.

    All three coins are completely blemish free - all have luster that puts many of my
    other Barber Quarters to shame...

    Images may be awhile, hopefully at Easter, when Valente151 ventures south again.

    Edit to add: Vern: Nice images... That 1894 Dime looks like it belongs in the Ginjamax Collection !

    Ron H: Beautiful new Half... I didn't look at proofs at lot viewing... Just MS material. Love the
    mated pair - Quarter and Half... Nice job.
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I had one of the most pleasant experiences yesterday as well when I saw Jeff From Tampa. He has become quite
    the accomplished photographer and he wanted to show me a leather bound book he had brought with him. It was
    as professionally done as any I have ever seen. All his Halves were lovingly imaged in a side by side format with
    the TPG label at the top. The images were printed in "matte form" ( non glare ) and it was a joy to study, page by page.
    Thanks again, Jeff. Your album eclipses my albums - and one of these days, I would love to transform my sets into
    your format. >>



    Mike-

    Thanks for your kind words and letting me show off! The book was heavy to lug around for 2 days, but it was actually useful when trying to remember some of my coins.

    It was great seeing you, Notehunter, Barbernut, and meeting paesan. Let's do this more often- it was FUN!
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was also happy to see many folks here and to finally meet Pasean!

    The FUN show was a 1 way street....Barbers going out the door and none coming in. The Blue Valley set was not handled properly IMHO and was sold at bargain prices. Yes I was a very disappointed collector with a want list that was ignored. If not for my disappointment I would have probably purchased every Barber Half that remained at the show Wednesday morning. That was a fire sale if I ever saw one!

    I sold a lot of nice barber 1/2's at this show. I haven't crunched the numbers but I am pretty sure I crushed my record for barber half sales at a show! Some of the better half's I sold...1904-S in AU-55 and XF-45, 5 or 6 MS coins, 01-S in 45, 92-S in 45, I could go on and on! This is the 1st FUN show I was not able to improve my personal collection at all. image

    It will be interesting to see what the future holds for the barber market. The 01-S Quarter VF-25 going for a bargain(very poorly represented as I have seen the coin in hand!), the fire sale!...are the powers to be trying to upset the market?
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, time for me to say a few things about the FUN show. I'll start with the boring stuff. I picked up 13 new coins, which is a fairly large haul. I'll mention the Barbers here and send them to Sandwichland for photos. 14-D and 00-S quarters in PC 58, 1900 half PC 55 and 13-D half PC 58 CAC. I had a lot of fun trading for these!

    Now for me, the exciting part was meeting a whole bunch of great dealers and collectors, and if I don't mention someone's name here it's only because my memory is poor and it's not intentional.

    Jeff from Tampa, Great album as Mike mentioned.
    Notehunter, Nice meeting you and having lunch with you and Jeff.
    Darrell, Yes, we finally met! Thanks for the invitation and I enjoyed our conversation!
    Dr. Pete and the Mrs, Dave W (srotag), and fellow paesan, Frank G, along with Mike Hayes...Wow! What a meal and what a great time at Capital Grille!
    Pete, Thanks for assisting in the 1824/2 quarter and introducing me to Harry L.
    Mr. Glenn H, always a pleasure to see you.
    Dave Kahn, Thanks for the beautiful 1833 dime. You've got some nice coins, man!
    Met Larry Briggs which was a big thrill for me and I'm really looking forward to my autographed seated quarter book. Could have spent a couple of more hours at that table.
    Barry (Key Island Dude) and Steve
    and the rest of you who I ran into...let me say again that you guys make the hobby 10x more enjoyable for me.

    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    TECHNICAL UPDATE!!!!

    For those who would like to know. I just found a work around for when the thread is stuck! I'm surprised I didn't think about it before. Just go to the webpage address and in this example change the page from 42 to 43!











    << <i>

    << <i>I had one of the most pleasant experiences yesterday as well when I saw Jeff From Tampa. He has become quite
    the accomplished photographer and he wanted to show me a leather bound book he had brought with him. It was
    as professionally done as any I have ever seen. All his Halves were lovingly imaged in a side by side format with
    the TPG label at the top. The images were printed in "matte form" ( non glare ) and it was a joy to study, page by page.
    Thanks again, Jeff. Your album eclipses my albums - and one of these days, I would love to transform my sets into
    your format. >>



    Mike-

    Thanks for your kind words and letting me show off! The book was heavy to lug around for 2 days, but it was actually useful when trying to remember some of my coins.

    It was great seeing you, Notehunter, Barbernut, and meeting paesan. Let's do this more often- it was FUN! >>



    Jeff,your idea of an album was great! The coins were well presented and it is possibly a marketable idea! I was very impressed with how far along you have come with your photography skills! The only thing I would suggest is to do it in a notebook fashion as your album was already out of date and you will have to redo the whole book everytime you upgrade a coin! image
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I had one of the most pleasant experiences yesterday as well when I saw Jeff From Tampa. He has become quite
    the accomplished photographer and he wanted to show me a leather bound book he had brought with him. It was
    as professionally done as any I have ever seen. All his Halves were lovingly imaged in a side by side format with
    the TPG label at the top. The images were printed in "matte form" ( non glare ) and it was a joy to study, page by page.
    Thanks again, Jeff. Your album eclipses my albums - and one of these days, I would love to transform my sets into
    your format. >>



    Mike-

    Thanks for your kind words and letting me show off! The book was heavy to lug around for 2 days, but it was actually
    useful when trying to remember some of my coins.

    It was great seeing you, Notehunter, Barbernut, and meeting paesan. Let's do this more often- it was FUN! >>



    Jeff,your idea of an album was great! The coins were well presented and it is possibly a marketable idea! I was
    very impressed with how far along you have come with your photography skills! The only thing I would suggest
    is to do it in a notebook fashion as your album was already out of date and you will have to redo the whole book
    everytime you upgrade a coin! image >>



    That was my biggest fear... I wasn't sure how replaced coins could be omitted and the Newps added.
    My sets are always evolving ( as most of you know ) and the editing process would be constantly changing.

    How does adding and deleting images work, Jeff ?



    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That was my biggest fear... I wasn't sure how replaced coins could be omitted and the Newps added.
    My sets are always evolving ( as most of you know ) and the editing process would be constantly changing.

    How does adding and deleting images work, Jeff ? >>



    My purpose for making the book was to create a "yearbook" for my set so I can look back through time to see the changes. I plan on doing another next December swapping out the new coins for old. The original artwork is saved, so the task is only to replace images of new additions.

    I may make a book with pages where the photos can be replaced, but I hate to loose the class of the book created. I'm looking into alternatives; it's a work in progress.

    One of my FUN purchases, a raw 1808 O 50C:

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    Obviously an easy date, but the one in my set is a 55 with toning I'm not all that fond of. I'm hoping this will 58, but time will tell. Off to our hosts this week with several other purchases.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    I hope, Jeff, that I get a chance to getting a few albums of your caliber made up.
    I mean it - great job. I loved the whole book.

    The new 08-O is a nice 55 { IMHO } but I wish you luck. Who knows, one of these
    days, PCGS is bound to bless an AU 55 with a "Plus".

    I threw in some Quarter bids to upgrade a couple of my 53's... keeping my fingers crossed.

    EDIT:

    My two newps from the Internet only portion of Heritage's sale today...

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    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike, Congrats on your new (tough) quarters. They have a nice appeal.

    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mike & Jeff - Congrats on the good looking newps from FUN.

    Darrell - Congrats on the sales. Too bad you weren't able to add an upgrade to your collection, but that's what happens when you have just about everything in the ultimate grade.
    Still find it hard to imagine that the 01-S qtr in VF25 didn't bring more. Will be interested to see how the market continues.

    Paesan - Look forward to the next pkg. Sounds like you had the perfect FUN experience.
    NTT - From my youth. There's a man who leads a life of danger. Secret Agen Man. Johnny Rivers.
    NTM - Right on the tip of my tongue, but can't get it. Definitely familiar.

    Scott - Congrats on the auction sales.

    Pics for this AM, my '92, PC58:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    For those who would like to know. I just found a work around for when the thread is stuck! I'm surprised I didn't think about it before. Just go to the webpage address and in this example change the page from 42 to 43! image

    Edit to add:

    Verne,Nice quarter! I still have some holes that are fillable!
  • MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219
    NTT-...a pretty face can hide an evil mind...
    NTM..."calling it your job don't make it right, Boss."

    JR - SAM mid+60's
    PN-CHL mid+60's
    In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
  • DrPeteDrPete Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭
    Was a pleasure having dinner with Mike, Dave, Lenny, and Frank. Nice choice for wine, Dave. It was a FUN time, indeed. Such times pass much too quickly.

    Got to see the few remaining AU58 Barber Halves at Teaparty, something like 12 left, mostly "common" dates, although for AU58, that is a relative term...

    My only purchases at the show were three mid to upper grade certified seated halves in VF30-AU50 all O mints, 1840-1856, nothing rare; they were just nice original coins, nice battleship grey. No acceptable Barber halves available for my core collection. Looked at the Eliasberg 1905-O MS68 Half in the Herigate auction, but it was a bit too mottled for my taste. I'll keep my MS 66+ example for now, and it's a beauty. Still, it's fun to hunt and look at coins that come up. Also saw an expensive half for sale, 1838-O SP 50 in a PCGS holder. Not too many of those out there.

    Dr. Pete
  • Labelman87Labelman87 Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭
    I have been able to acquire an old friend that I never should have sold. image

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    Craig


  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NTT- Secret Agent Man- Johnny Rivers

    Yes Mike, your 58 quarters are really nice examples. I send coins in looking like that and they come back as a 62.

    It's no FUN being back at work!
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry, the thread was stuck and I didn't know the NTT had been answered. Darrell, you da man- your "stuck" work around gets us to the next page (but unfortunately doesn't fix the problem).
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darrell, Great tip when thread gets stuck, and glad you had a good show.

    Vern, Sweet '92! Got the tune!

    Jeff, Got it too. Keep us posted on your submissions.

    Mowgli, You nailed them both, as usual!

    My newps are on their way to Vern and should appear soon!

    Pete, Thanks again for assisting in the 24/2. What a beauty! I owe you a night out with the samba girls!

    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Craig, Forgot to say congrats on your re-find!
    More coins, less government.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just saw my latest results from PCGS- my recent NGC crossover submission. Two didn't cross, but my '07 O crossed as a 58+ (from a 58). I'm trying to figure out the pop count for 58+ '07 O; anyone a Coin Facts member that can tell me?
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • valente151valente151 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just saw my latest results from PCGS- my recent NGC crossover submission. Two didn't cross, but my '07 O crossed as a 58+ (from a 58). I'm trying to figure out the pop count for 58+ '07 O; anyone a Coin Facts member that can tell me? >>



    There are no '07-O 50c in the pop report as of tonight, so yours will be the first. That coin will attract some strong attention if put on the market, IMO.

    BTW, nice meeting you at FUN. Nice job on the book image
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, Congrats on your 58+. Looking forward to pix!

    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are no '07-O 50c in the pop report as of tonight, so yours will be the first. That coin will attract some strong attention if put on the market, IMO.


    << <i>

    Cool- I finally have something the Big Dogs want. Ruff!
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I/m seeking opinions on how this coin will grade- a recent FUN purchase, a raw 1909 50C:

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    To me the obverse looks circulated (barely), but the reverse looks MS. The coin has been sent off to PCGS; what will they do with it?
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I/m seeking opinions on how this coin will grade- a recent FUN purchase, a raw 1909 50C:

    image

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    To me the obverse looks circulated (barely), but the reverse looks MS. The coin has been sent off to PCGS; what will they do with it? >>



    The 2 hevay marks on the face make me wanna say 53 maybe 55. I would love to see your 07-O and compare it to the CAC 58 I purchased at the show from Tom!

    LOL! Yeah I did buy a couple of half's!
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The FUN show was a 1 way street....Barbers going out the door and none coming in. >>





    << <i>LOL! Yeah I did buy a couple of half's! >>



    Glad everyone had a good time at FUN. It was a good read. Darrell, you crack me up. Say one thing, and present another. image

  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mowgli - You're definitely the man on the NTT & NTM.

    Craig - Glad to see that toughie return home. Congrats.

    Jeff - Congrats on the 58+ on your 07-O. Also, I'd guess 55 on your '09 FUN purcchase.

    Darrell - Glad your FUN wasn't a total loss on the buying front.

    Pics for this AM, a beauty I was able to see in hand from Craig's collection, PC58:

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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The FUN show was a 1 way street....Barbers going out the door and none coming in. >>





    << <i>LOL! Yeah I did buy a couple of half's! >>



    Glad everyone had a good time at FUN. It was a good read. Darrell, you crack me up. Say one thing, and present another. image >>



    I agree, Justin. He does present a good sob story, and stealthily slides in another coin for his AU 58 set.
    When are we going to see the better set with images, Darrell ? When young Madison LogPotato graduates
    from High School ??

    Great chatting with you Darrell. Glad you had a good show, you deserve it, you work so darn hard !!

    Jeff: the 1909 is a 55. ( The reverse is an AU 64 ... Lol ) as Amworld mentioned, the marks on the face lower it to 55.
    If the grading Gods smile on you, maybe ... just maybe a 58.

    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Jeff: the 1909 is a 55. ( The reverse is an AU 64 ... Lol ) as Amworld mentioned, the marks on the face lower it to 55.
    If the grading Gods smile on you, maybe ... just maybe a 58. >>



    Mike- I agree with your assessment, emphasis on MAYBE a 58. I should of applied a little makeup before sending it in.

    I also sent in a spare '04 O 50C for Guarantee Resubmission:

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    I bought the coin a few years back to get a graded '04 O. At the time my set had a Details grade '04 O, so this was a step up. It's in a PCGS XF 45 holder. I've been trying to sell it for a while with no interest. I'm uncertain what caused the sharp line of black toning, but it does appear that there's environmental damage lingering under the toning. It seems to me that this coin should never have been place in a graded holder, but it will be interesting to see what the Gods at PCGS say. Does anyone have experience with the Guarantee Resubmission? Are they going to tell me the toning and environmental damage happened post holder? image
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, I once owned an 07-S quarter in a PCGS 65 holder. I purchased it and put it away. Six months later when I was looking at my coins, I noticed it had turned black. I sent it back in to PCGS and to my surprise, they offered to clean it for me. Now I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I'm thinking that they body bag cleaned coins, and now that's what they are offering me. Something doesn't add up here. It ended up in a 64 holder and they offered to buy it from me at below their 65 price. I paid 65+ money for it. I said, "Whoa, baby! Your mistake and I have to lose money?" Bottom line is I lost money.

    In retrospect, it was a good lesson. That's when I stopped buying holders and started buying quality coins.

    Good luck with your 04-O.

    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And it's also when I stopped throwing money at TPGs. Wonder who lost more?
    More coins, less government.
  • valente151valente151 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I/m seeking opinions on how this coin will grade- a recent FUN purchase, a raw 1909 50C:

    image

    image

    To me the obverse looks circulated (barely), but the reverse looks MS. The coin has been sent off to PCGS; what will they do with it? >>



    This appears to have the luster to carry it into an unc holder, I'm a 61 or 62 on it. Luster is king in my experience.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>The FUN show was a 1 way street....Barbers going out the door and none coming in. >>





    << <i>LOL! Yeah I did buy a couple of half's! >>



    Glad everyone had a good time at FUN. It was a good read. Darrell, you crack me up. Say one thing, and present another. image >>



    I agree, Justin. He does present a good sob story, and stealthily slides in another coin for his AU 58 set.
    When are we going to see the better set with images, Darrell ? When young Madison LogPotato graduates
    from High School ??

    Great chatting with you Darrell. Glad you had a good show, you deserve it, you work so darn hard !! >>



    LOL Mike and Justin! I usually come home with 30 or 40! Unfortunately I already have an 07-O in 58. I will get around to picturing my set one of these days.
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I/m seeking opinions on how this coin will grade- a recent FUN purchase, a raw 1909 50C:

    image

    image

    To me the obverse looks circulated (barely), but the reverse looks MS. The coin has been sent off to PCGS; what will they do with it? >>



    This appears to have the luster to carry it into an unc holder, I'm a 61 or 62 on it. Luster is king in my experience. >>



    I agree it does have nice luster. I have and have seen a 58 or 2 that were Unc but a small scratch or hits like this knock it down.
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,387 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks unc. 62 is my take.

    Tyler
  • barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,154 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Paesan - Here are the pics of your 07-S qtr that changed in the holder:
    Before
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    After
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    This slab number is now listed as MS64, interestingly enough.

    Pics for this AM, raw beauties from my friend Keith's collection:
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    Vern
    l
    It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow, those are some beautiful halves. Right up my alley.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Justin, Good to see you check in!

    Vern, great pix on the 07-S debacle. Your friend's halves are PQ!

    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • paesanpaesan Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just noticed that the 07-S quarter was CAC'd. Further evidence (at least in my little mind) that CAC is a waste of time and money.

    Paesan
    More coins, less government.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭
    Paesan... I would have been heart sick when the Quarter turned in the holder.
    I am no metallurgist but what was the cause of this...anyone have a reasonable
    explanation ? I am at a loss for words. Aside from the way PCGS handled this,
    wasn't there any recourse with CAC ?

    I fully understand your reluctance in using CAC - based on this one episode. Some
    of my friends think they are the "N-th" degree in certification of higher end coins in
    their respective grades. I like the premise but then again, I have been at odds with
    CAC on occasion. When they do not green bean, etc. A coin, it would be most helpful
    if they made mention as to why the coin failed to pass their standards. ( ie: the codes
    that PCGS uses on their slabs ..."92, 94 etc". )

    I received a nice note yesterday from a friend and another from his Son, it seems that
    the Son had sold David Kahn one of the coins I recently bought at FUN. He included an
    image ... this coin was not CAC 'd and I asked if he had sent it in to CAC, and he had,
    but, it did not pass. My friend thinks it's because it has too many marks on the cheek...
    it does have some activity, yes , but not so much (in hand) to cause me to recind my
    purchase.

    I'll edit this in awhile to add the images.


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    All I can say is, in hand it's a screamer. My friend also mentioned that I could have saved a
    bundle if I had bought it directly from him and not thru a dealer... Seems the coin was on our
    BST prior to my seeing it at Kahn's table.

    I have learned a valuable lesson, check the BST regardless if you are looking to buy a
    specific date or not. Doesn't hurt to browse, Afterall, it's free to look. image
    Mike Hayes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !

    New Barber Purchases
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Paesan... I would have been heart sick when the Quarter turned in the holder.
    I am no metallurgist but what was the cause of this...anyone have a reasonable
    explanation ?

    << <i>

    It looks to me as though the coin originally had the awkward toning and someone dipped it to get rid of the weird stuff- you can see the shadow of it on the original images. The edge peripheral toning is more established so it didn't disappear after a quick dip. After all, toning is oxidation and once established it tends to come back.

    But then what do I know.
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Remember that 1901-S that we discussed here?

    Looks like this came back as real, XF details.

    I called it, I called it! >>



    Obviously you understand there are only 2 obverse dies and you know what to look for. Congrats to you for your experience and knowledge. image
    I love them Barber Halves.....
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭✭
    I find it pretty interesting. I posted in the above link that it had all the die positions, but I was skeptical of the surface pimples. And that I was also unaware of any fake with exact die positions. I was pretty torn on whether it was real or not, but I think it's pretty cool that it is. Especially where it was found.
  • JeffMTampaJeffMTampa Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You never know what can happen to a hunk of silver that's been buried in the ground for 100 years.......
    I love them Barber Halves.....

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