@JeffMTampa said:
I posted a couple of "flawed" Barber Halves in seperate threads on this site over the weekend, but I thought I would post them here as well. Here's a raw '97 O Half that I purchased a few weeks back:
It appears to be a delamination. Aside from the big chunk missing on the reverse at 5:00 there's loose laminated bits at around 11:00. Aother ideas on this one?
Jeff, That bit to the right of the mintmark interests me as well. Perhaps the planchet wasn't annealed properly. Very curious. https://youtu.be/mBjD9N1APsw
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Thanks for posting the video link, Tim. Very interesting!
Yes, the mark near the tail is a delamination as well. It's my understanding that as the metal strip gets rolled thinner and thinner it gets more brittle at each pass. My guess is the separation of layers in the metal occurred during this process. It's possible the planchet wasn't properly annealed as well, shattering the layers. It sure would be fun to go back in time and see what was going on at the New Orleans Mint.
@JeffMTampa said:
I posted a couple of "flawed" Barber Halves in seperate threads on this site over the weekend, but I thought I would post them here as well. Here's a raw '97 O Half that I purchased a few weeks back:
It appears to be a delamination. Aside from the big chunk missing on the reverse at 5:00 there's loose laminated bits at around 11:00. Aother ideas on this one?
Here's a 1893 O Half I purchased a few months back and submitted to PCGS. I was a bit surprised it came back straight graded:
My best guess is the planchet was improperly annealed (leaving it too hard) and struck in a previously bulged (Mumps) die. The metal was too hard to properly flow into the expanded "Mumps" voids, and left a ripple effect. Any other ideas on this one?
@sedulous said:
Hey, With this AU 1908-D dime, I think I just picked up a variety (FS-10-1908D-306)
Also, picked up the 1910-D dime PC58 from SBG's recent auction - needed to add to my Everyman
Great pick up on the 1910-D! Finding one at all is a bit of a challenge, much less locating a nicer specimen. Other than the 09-D it has proven to be the toughest Denver issue of the series here (even more so than the 07-D, despite all of those barrels supposedly lost in the Gunnison) and, in my opinion, is underrated (and, thankfully, under-priced) in AU grade.
Great pick up on the 1910-D! Finding one at all is a bit of a challenge, much less locating a nicer specimen. Other than the 09-D it has proven to be the toughest Denver issue of the series here (even more so than the 07-D, despite all of those barrels supposedly lost in the Gunnison) and, in my opinion, is underrated (and, thankfully, under-priced) in AU grade.
Scodal, I actually like the '07-D a whole lot. The '09-D is not bad either. Both of these, for me, are resting in 45 holders:
1907-D Barber Dime, PCGS XF45 (undergraded IMHO):
1909-D Barber Dime, NGC XF45 but cracked and waiting a return from the PCGS grading room (PCGS XF45 anticipated).
T
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here is another '07-D where the digital picture looks pretty good but the end result turned out as Details-Cleaned AU.
I was hoping this would upgrade my '07-D in XF45 - but alas, bringing in this dime from the wild didn't meet the muster.
T
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Scodal, I actually like the '07-D a whole lot. The '09-D is not bad either. Both of these, for me, are resting in 45 holders:
1907-D Barber Dime, PCGS XF45 (undergraded IMHO):
1909-D Barber Dime, NGC XF45 but cracked and waiting a return from the PCGS grading room (PCGS XF45 anticipated).
T
Nice dimes! I like the look of both, and judging from the pic would agree that the 07-D could find it's way into a PC50. May be worth trying again at some point. That's too bad the potential upgrade came back as Details - the toning on the reverse is pretty. I recently had a disappointing outcome like that with a 97-S that had previously straight graded as a PC50 but cracked and came back AU details. As for the 10-D, 09-D and 07-D, I have examples of all three, too, but like you am still on the lookout for upgrades...
Great pick up on the 1910-D! Finding one at all is a bit of a challenge, much less locating a nicer specimen. Other than the 09-D it has proven to be the toughest Denver issue of the series here (even more so than the 07-D, despite all of those barrels supposedly lost in the Gunnison) and, in my opinion, is underrated (and, thankfully, under-priced) in AU grade.
Scodal, I actually like the '07-D a whole lot. The '09-D is not bad either. Both of these, for me, are resting in 45 holders:
1907-D Barber Dime, PCGS XF45 (undergraded IMHO):
1909-D Barber Dime, NGC XF45 but cracked and waiting a return from the PCGS grading room (PCGS XF45 anticipated).
T
Look at the front of the bust on the '07 D.
It looks like a mirror image of the bust and the point of the bust, plus another neck line in front of the regular one.
If you had paid me a visit in Knoxville(not coming next year) I could have shown you with many examples and much commentary!
@erwindoc said:
Opinion for the masses here, what things do you look for on a mid-grade circulated Barber that helps you decide grades between 35/40/45?
Great pick up on the 1910-D! Finding one at all is a bit of a challenge, much less locating a nicer specimen. Other than the 09-D it has proven to be the toughest Denver issue of the series here (even more so than the 07-D, despite all of those barrels supposedly lost in the Gunnison) and, in my opinion, is underrated (and, thankfully, under-priced) in AU grade.
Scodal, I actually like the '07-D a whole lot. The '09-D is not bad either. Both of these, for me, are resting in 45 holders:
1907-D Barber Dime, PCGS XF45 (undergraded IMHO):
1909-D Barber Dime, NGC XF45 but cracked and waiting a return from the PCGS grading room (PCGS XF45 anticipated).
T
Look at the front of the bust on the '07 D.
It looks like a mirror image of the bust and the point of the bust, plus another neck line in front of the regular one.
Do you see it?
Wow... yes I do. Going to have to pull it out and go to a microscope.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Great pick up on the 1910-D! Finding one at all is a bit of a challenge, much less locating a nicer specimen. Other than the 09-D it has proven to be the toughest Denver issue of the series here (even more so than the 07-D, despite all of those barrels supposedly lost in the Gunnison) and, in my opinion, is underrated (and, thankfully, under-priced) in AU grade.
Scodal, I actually like the '07-D a whole lot. The '09-D is not bad either. Both of these, for me, are resting in 45 holders:
1907-D Barber Dime, PCGS XF45 (undergraded IMHO):
1909-D Barber Dime, NGC XF45 but cracked and waiting a return from the PCGS grading room (PCGS XF45 anticipated).
T
Look at the front of the bust on the '07 D.
It looks like a mirror image of the bust and the point of the bust, plus another neck line in front of the regular one.
Do you see it?
Wow... yes I do. Going to have to pull it out and go to a microscope.
erwindoc - Any more, I am less concerned with whether a mid-grade barber is technically a 35/40/45, and more concerned with its look. Coins in this grade range ought to have my kind of XF look. I still look at the detail of liberty and the line under it, and at wing tips as Jim mentioned, but that's only perhaps 40% of the grading decision to me. A great look can move a coin with 35 details to a 40, or 40 details to a 45 in my book. But it's always just an opinion
Jeff - Nice toughie, your 93-S half.
Pics for this PM, newp into Jim's No Headlights collection, PC58:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Great pick up on the 1910-D! Finding one at all is a bit of a challenge, much less locating a nicer specimen. Other than the 09-D it has proven to be the toughest Denver issue of the series here (even more so than the 07-D, despite all of those barrels supposedly lost in the Gunnison) and, in my opinion, is underrated (and, thankfully, under-priced) in AU grade.
Scodal, I actually like the '07-D a whole lot. The '09-D is not bad either. Both of these, for me, are resting in 45 holders:
1907-D Barber Dime, PCGS XF45 (undergraded IMHO):
1909-D Barber Dime, NGC XF45 but cracked and waiting a return from the PCGS grading room (PCGS XF45 anticipated).
T
Look at the front of the bust on the '07 D.
It looks like a mirror image of the bust and the point of the bust, plus another neck line in front of the regular one.
Do you see it?
Wow... yes I do. Going to have to pull it out and go to a microscope.
Treashunt,
Ok. Finally got to the microscope on that PC45 1907-D. Sorry to deflate, but I don't see anything exciting except for maybe that minor die crack eminating or protruding from the base of the bust.
The rest is just perfectly positioned scratches IMO...
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Great pick up on the 1910-D! Finding one at all is a bit of a challenge, much less locating a nicer specimen. Other than the 09-D it has proven to be the toughest Denver issue of the series here (even more so than the 07-D, despite all of those barrels supposedly lost in the Gunnison) and, in my opinion, is underrated (and, thankfully, under-priced) in AU grade.
Scodal, I actually like the '07-D a whole lot. The '09-D is not bad either. Both of these, for me, are resting in 45 holders:
1907-D Barber Dime, PCGS XF45 (undergraded IMHO):
1909-D Barber Dime, NGC XF45 but cracked and waiting a return from the PCGS grading room (PCGS XF45 anticipated).
T
Look at the front of the bust on the '07 D.
It looks like a mirror image of the bust and the point of the bust, plus another neck line in front of the regular one.
Do you see it?
Wow... yes I do. Going to have to pull it out and go to a microscope.
Treashunt,
Ok. Finally got to the microscope on that PC45 1907-D. Sorry to deflate, but I don't see anything exciting except for maybe that minor die crack eminating or protruding from the base of the bust.
The rest is just perfectly positioned scratches IMO...
@barberkeys said:
erwindoc - Any more, I am less concerned with whether a mid-grade barber is technically a 35/40/45, and more concerned with its look. Coins in this grade range ought to have my kind of XF look. I still look at the detail of liberty and the line under it, and at wing tips as Jim mentioned, but that's only perhaps 40% of the grading decision to me. A great look can move a coin with 35 details to a 40, or 40 details to a 45 in my book. But it's always just an opinion
Jeff - Nice toughie, your 93-S half.
Pics for this PM, newp into Jim's No Headlights collection, PC58:
Wow Vern and Jim, Beautiful picture of that '99 Half Dollar. I love the color and natural-looking surfaces! Quality.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Have any of you seen the expanded 20th Century Type Capital holder? It has a Liberty Nickel slot and the three dime-quarter-half Barber slots. Picked this one up reasonably from a local coinshop in new condition while they were attempting to do some spring cleaning. Fun to fill. Gold will be more of a challenge.
It reminded me of Jeff's pictures when he visited the New Orleans Mint. Those Capital Holders were so nice holding the Barber coins. Some day it would be nice to get permission from them to get detailed, close-up pictures of each coin and share them back with the curator for their website. Jus' thinkin'...
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Once in awhile something pretty damn cool walks in to the shop. 38 Hawaii quarters we are grading for someone which we see a range from 63-65, possibly one or two 66's. It appears these have all been together and likely from an original roll from 135 years ago. All island Barbers, kind of. Hope everyone is doing well.
Glenn
@barberkeys said:
Tim - $510 for the 1892 qtr. The 58+ grade is another of the smart marketing moves our hosts have made. Have fun with your capital holder.
Pics for this AM, newp from my get together with Doug and Jim a week and a half ago, PC40:
Wow, and double wow! That is one gorgeous dime. Congratulations on the certification. It looks like it could use a little green on the slab to complete the full spectrum...
Comments
Jeff, That bit to the right of the mintmark interests me as well. Perhaps the planchet wasn't annealed properly. Very curious.
https://youtu.be/mBjD9N1APsw
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Thanks for posting the video link, Tim. Very interesting!
Yes, the mark near the tail is a delamination as well. It's my understanding that as the metal strip gets rolled thinner and thinner it gets more brittle at each pass. My guess is the separation of layers in the metal occurred during this process. It's possible the planchet wasn't properly annealed as well, shattering the layers. It sure would be fun to go back in time and see what was going on at the New Orleans Mint.
Pics for this PM, PC53:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I recently purchased a PC58 1907 S Quarter. Has not been to CAC. yet
The 1907-S a "lovable date"!
https://coins.ha.com/itm/barber-quarters/quarters-and-twenty-cents/1907-s-25c-au58-pcgs-pcgs-population-8-69-ngc-census-2-54-cdn-365-whsle-bid-for-problem-free-ngc-pcgs-au58-min/a/1272-7744.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515
That's mine
Aahh......I was bidding on that coin and dropped out around $1,100.00
When Ya gonna fire up dem Guns!
I wasn't planning on dropping out. I've been searching for one in a 58 holder for many years.
In hand, the coin looks like any other 64, but of course what holds it back it the weakness in the hair.
Thought this was cool. Hoard of 1883 Liberty Head Nickels being sold at CSNS:
https://coinweek.com/auctions-news/curious-hoard-of-1883-no-cents-liberty-nickels-offered-at-csns-by-heritage-auctions/
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Nice hoard- It's nice to see it will be sold as a lot to retaqin the integrity.
I wonder if PCGS can come up with a 297 slot holder for it?
I fired my guns, but they only shoot BB's.
Hey, With this AU 1908-D dime, I think I just picked up a variety (FS-10-1908D-306)
Also, picked up the 1910-D dime PC58 from SBG's recent auction - needed to add to my Everyman
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Nice additions!
Jon says it is not 306. Still a nice '08-D dime however.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Looks like a struck thru
BHNC #203
Great pick up on the 1910-D! Finding one at all is a bit of a challenge, much less locating a nicer specimen. Other than the 09-D it has proven to be the toughest Denver issue of the series here (even more so than the 07-D, despite all of those barrels supposedly lost in the Gunnison) and, in my opinion, is underrated (and, thankfully, under-priced) in AU grade.
Craig - I agree, the 07-S is a "lovable" date (and one of my favorites).
Tim - Nice dime newps.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC50:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Scodal, I actually like the '07-D a whole lot. The '09-D is not bad either. Both of these, for me, are resting in 45 holders:
1907-D Barber Dime, PCGS XF45 (undergraded IMHO):
1909-D Barber Dime, NGC XF45 but cracked and waiting a return from the PCGS grading room (PCGS XF45 anticipated).
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here is another '07-D where the digital picture looks pretty good but the end result turned out as Details-Cleaned AU.
I was hoping this would upgrade my '07-D in XF45 - but alas, bringing in this dime from the wild didn't meet the muster.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Nice dimes.
I purchased a couple of MS Barber Halves recently, one a 1911 S in an ANACS MS 62 holder. I plan on submitting it to PCGS so I cracked it:
It looks like a 62 to me with a good strike.
Nice dimes! I like the look of both, and judging from the pic would agree that the 07-D could find it's way into a PC50. May be worth trying again at some point. That's too bad the potential upgrade came back as Details - the toning on the reverse is pretty. I recently had a disappointing outcome like that with a 97-S that had previously straight graded as a PC50 but cracked and came back AU details. As for the 10-D, 09-D and 07-D, I have examples of all three, too, but like you am still on the lookout for upgrades...
Scott
Look at the front of the bust on the '07 D.
It looks like a mirror image of the bust and the point of the bust, plus another neck line in front of the regular one.
Do you see it?
BHNC #203
Opinion for the masses here, what things do you look for on a mid-grade circulated Barber that helps you decide grades between 35/40/45?
If you had paid me a visit in Knoxville(not coming next year) I could have shown you with many examples and much commentary!
Wing tip detail
Line under the headband
Another MS newp; I cracked this out of an ICG MS 64 holder:
Wow... yes I do. Going to have to pull it out and go to a microscope.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
good luck.
BHNC #203
The thread has slipped; here's a coin I've had for a few years:
I love this 1908-O Half!!
Now your talkin!
To each his own of course. But that’s what a high grade circ. Coin should like
Very nice 08-O half.
erwindoc - Any more, I am less concerned with whether a mid-grade barber is technically a 35/40/45, and more concerned with its look. Coins in this grade range ought to have my kind of XF look. I still look at the detail of liberty and the line under it, and at wing tips as Jim mentioned, but that's only perhaps 40% of the grading decision to me. A great look can move a coin with 35 details to a 40, or 40 details to a 45 in my book. But it's always just an opinion
Jeff - Nice toughie, your 93-S half.
Pics for this PM, newp into Jim's No Headlights collection, PC58:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Treashunt,
Ok. Finally got to the microscope on that PC45 1907-D. Sorry to deflate, but I don't see anything exciting except for maybe that minor die crack eminating or protruding from the base of the bust.
The rest is just perfectly positioned scratches IMO...
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
rats!
BHNC #203
Thanks!!!
Wow Vern and Jim, Beautiful picture of that '99 Half Dollar. I love the color and natural-looking surfaces! Quality.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
$510 to purchase a '92 Type 2 quarter in 58+ from David Kahn? wow. Bold.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Moving up the thread...
Have any of you seen the expanded 20th Century Type Capital holder? It has a Liberty Nickel slot and the three dime-quarter-half Barber slots. Picked this one up reasonably from a local coinshop in new condition while they were attempting to do some spring cleaning. Fun to fill. Gold will be more of a challenge.
It reminded me of Jeff's pictures when he visited the New Orleans Mint. Those Capital Holders were so nice holding the Barber coins. Some day it would be nice to get permission from them to get detailed, close-up pictures of each coin and share them back with the curator for their website. Jus' thinkin'...
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Tim - $510 for the 1892 qtr. The 58+ grade is another of the smart marketing moves our hosts have made. Have fun with your capital holder.
Pics for this AM, newp from my get together with Doug and Jim a week and a half ago, PC40:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Once in awhile something pretty damn cool walks in to the shop. 38 Hawaii quarters we are grading for someone which we see a range from 63-65, possibly one or two 66's. It appears these have all been together and likely from an original roll from 135 years ago. All island Barbers, kind of. Hope everyone is doing well.
Glenn
Website-Americana Rare Coin Inc
Very nice, my best in my 'hoard' is a VF+
BHNC #203
Glenn - Very cool indeed. Good to hear from you.
Frank - Thanks, my hoard is now up to 3.
Pics for this PM, newp into Jim's box of 20 collection of dimes, PC50:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I am fairly certain that I have shown this one before, but I received notice that CAC liked it too!
image by @robec
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Wow, and double wow! That is one gorgeous dime. Congratulations on the certification. It looks like it could use a little green on the slab to complete the full spectrum...
Nice
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
My latest. Not a rarity, but a pretty one, I think. Ebay bucks helped me get it at half price.
Jedm - great looking coin. That coin has a great look and certainly one I would put in my set.