Jeff, it's in a 30 holder. It's overgraded. I'm OK with that because the coin is very original with no PVC or marks etc. I try not to worry about the grade so much and concentrate on the coin itself. The difference in color of the photos is my fault. It's the best I could do holding the coin in my kitchen under amateur light and the cell phone.
Justin - I like your method of collecting, going after problem free original coins in a grade range without splitting hairs over a number. With the look of your '13, what difference does it make what number a grading service calls it this year? 5 years from now their number will probably be different, but the coin will still be the same. Very desirable.
Pics for this AM, not sure where I left off on posting my raw set:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
@LogPotato said:
I think the 97-S has the detail for an AU grade, but I think it was net graded for the marks on the obverse.
Tim, are the first pics the seller pics of the 91? If so, the marks alone would have kept me away. Also, it has what I call pasty surfaces. Like the skin was chemically removed, All but one of the coins in my set that I had graded came from eBay. I've had plenty experience with pics from eBay and the actual quality you receive, I don't have nearly the return rate of Jeff, but then again, when you are on that border of AU/MS it's a heck of a lot harder to decipher.
I don't have quite the eye for trouble yet, but I'm working on it.
Mike - Thanks on my raw 13-S, but I figure it's more of a F-12. I bought it from Clayton (who you may remember) in 1998. I didn't know it until a few years later but it came from a large old time collection that a local auctioneer sold over a period of at least 15 years. I have at least 3 other coins in my collection that came from that old collection. I wish I'd been aware of what was being auctioned back when it started.
Jeff - We are all working on the eye, it is a process that never ends.
Pics for this AM, not a barber but one that came from the same place my raw 13-S did, now in PC55:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern....Having collected SLQ's for many years - and my last collection was sold en mass to
Liz at JJ Teaparty a couple of years ago.
The 27-S has always been my bug-aboo.... I never owned one I loved. Everyone of them had
scooped out heads, and an overall soft strike. My best one was an MS 63 - and I always considered it a hole filler.
Your's looks to be an attractive coin. Never realized you collected SLQ's too.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Jeff, Mike, The BCCS data analysis showed that the '08-P was one of the least collected Philadelphia quarters - tougher than the '94 and '96. The '13-P has more notariety and is collected or hoarded more frequently because of it. The '08-P is unnoticed and a sleeper.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
My YN Photographer noticed this on CRO yesterday - so... I called John and he's holding it pending my check's arrival:
I have a sub set of V Nickel Toners - and this is scheduled for that collection.
For what its worth...the new system won't allow me to add this to my Basic Set... I want to delete the MS 64 I have
and high light this beauty. Its very frustrating. Very !!!!
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
As a kid in the late 60's and early 70's I began collecting VG to VF Barber Halves. I don't think I had much of a set by the time I went to college and forgot about coins for a while. In 1980 I had graduated from college and was married; I began to think about coins again. In March of 1980 I was at a coin show in Minneapolis and ran across a beautiful looking 1892 S Barber Half (obviously raw). It looked flawless to me. The dealer wanted $675 for it- a LOT of money at the time. I decided to purchase it. About 6 years ago I finally got it graded; it came back in an AU 55 holder:
Although this coin is no longer in my Everyman Registry set (I have a 58 there) it holds a very special place in my heart; it's the coin that set me on the quest to put together an AU set of Barber Halves.
I've been working on completing my V Nickel sets - and I just picked up this "missing date"...
or, I've lost my memory completely... God only knows....
Not all that Earth shaking - but looks nice - for what it is....
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
I went searching for Winston Zach's Thread of Web Sites - and
found Dave Wnuck's site and as I just did some business with
his old business partner, I thought I'd check out what he was
offering... found a really pleasing 1912 Liberty Nickel - Proof
Here's the smaller version of the True View
No cheating, now. Care to guess the grade ?
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Interesting exchange about where all the Barber collectors have gone.
I still like to read the thread, and although I like working on other areas of the hobby as Mike alluded to, I still get excited when something new and special comes along. I've definitely reached the point where I buy what I like, not what I need. That opens up lots of new and exciting doors. I only wish I could find a few more choice Barbers priced right.
Mike, I'll guess 64 unless the cheek discoloration is not contact marks... then I would be closer to Jeff's assessment. The picture got a little fuzzy when I zoomed in. Nice color. A slight amount of weakness in the hair curls area is what I am taking away from the picture.
Jeff, a little bit of weakness in the eagle's armpit doesn't detract. Nice color.
9 more raw Barber quarters off to our hosts today. 2 are competitor crackouts.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
@sedulous said:
Whoo hoo! the BCCS Journal arrived in the mail today!
Mine arrived yesterday as well. I did a quick page through and wow! The feature in the centerfold is amazing!
Vern, I am pretty sure those are your pictures and not somebody else's? How did the process work... did you send your digital images by email? or maybe mailed a DVD to John? Did you determine how you wanted the pictures laid out in the center spread? ? I agree with Justin, it looks great.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
This has probably been my longest absence in years. My wife and I made the return to northern Illinois after 10 weeks in beautiful South Carolina. Go Gamecocks. The transition has left me a little unorganized. Anyway, hope to get back to the forum on my usual regular basis. There will be many new pics over the next few weeks as, in addition to receiving a box from Paesan, four (Doug, Jim, Milo and I) of us forumites met for a wonderful coin show of our own last Sunday. Many of their newps are in my hands waiting for pictures. What a great hobby, especially so when it is shared with really nice friends.
Mike - Congrats on all the newp V Nickels.
Jeff - Your 92-S was a bold purchase (and a very nice one) for 1980.
Tim - Yes, those are my pictures in the new BCCS journal. John did all the work, all I did was email the pics. He did a wonderful job on the layout.
Pics for this AM, newp into Jim's collection (and it's not a half). Congratulations by the way Jim, on completing your barber half set. This one is the nicest AU 95-O I've ever seen, NCG-53:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Craig...glad to see you held onto your First Communion money ...looks like you tried to add an S Mint Mark.
No San Francisco Quarters in 04 - my friend. Nice try though !
Shout out to Vern.... Hey Dude, that was a great Centerfold Display.
Sorry it was limited to 12 coins. What a beautiful display !! Love it !!!
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Met with JeffRM last night - looked over a large group of his halves -
{ Very Impressive - BTW } and then proceeded to go out to dinner.
We had an enjoyable dinner meeting - and afterwards, I showed
off my Proof Dimes - a few Quarters and the remaining balance of my Halves.
My PCGS submissions for Srotag are due any moment - and I have a large consignment going to CAC for he and a friend. I've still got a few odds and ends to submit myself. Waiting for my newps to arrive that do not have a Green Bean...
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Well, this afternoon, I received the PCGS submissions for my friend, SROTAG.
Although I requested True Views, none were posted. I called Phil and reassured me
that he did actually image these submissions.
Barber submissions whose images I will be posting are:
1893 Dime - MS 65
1906-D Dime - MS 66+
1907-S Dime - MS 65
1911-S Dime - MS 66
1912 Dime - MS 66
1915-S Dime - MS 65
On a personal note, my 1916-S Off Center Dime also arrived today and
it crossed from ANACS 50 to a PCGS 50.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Lenny, I agree my submission set returned golden this time around. In addition to the '06-D, a return of an MS67+ '82-S Morgan, '30-P Merc in 66FB, '31-D in 64+FB shows I had a good-sized score which I can honestly parlay into my 'happy' dance today. It will extend funds at a future point for more quality Barber purchases SMILE .
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Lenny, Mike, Vern, I kick myself now not purchasing the companion '07-D I saw as about AU-55 (that was with the '06-D). Perhaps it would have actually made 58. Who knows.
Lenny, the other 3 coins were TrueView captured as well (83724223, 224, 225). I have 10 more things in the hopper waiting for an April return from our hosts.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Wow am I excited about my recent pickup. Barber dime. 1897-S in NGC XF45. Nice in that I think I now have what is mentioned in Breen's (also in Feigenbaum's text referencing Breen) as the S over S East. Noticed it is not attributed as a variety. That includes the major 3rd party graders and even Cherrypickers Guide (CPG) by Fivaz/Stanton. Looks like another crossover candidate to our hosts. BCCS has not done a variety survey yet, right? How rare is the S/S east? Does anyone on this thread have one? I have another '97-S... need to go take a look at that one more closely.
T
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
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Jeff, it's in a 30 holder. It's overgraded. I'm OK with that because the coin is very original with no PVC or marks etc. I try not to worry about the grade so much and concentrate on the coin itself. The difference in color of the photos is my fault. It's the best I could do holding the coin in my kitchen under amateur light and the cell phone.
Regardless of grade, that is a nice '97-S Justin.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Mike - Those are two really neat OC dimes.
Justin - I like your method of collecting, going after problem free original coins in a grade range without splitting hairs over a number. With the look of your '13, what difference does it make what number a grading service calls it this year? 5 years from now their number will probably be different, but the coin will still be the same. Very desirable.
Pics for this AM, not sure where I left off on posting my raw set:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern...that's about the nicest 13-S ( VF20-25 IMO ) I have seen in some time.
Eye appeal a plenty !!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
I don't have quite the eye for trouble yet, but I'm working on it.
Mike - Thanks on my raw 13-S, but I figure it's more of a F-12. I bought it from Clayton (who you may remember) in 1998. I didn't know it until a few years later but it came from a large old time collection that a local auctioneer sold over a period of at least 15 years. I have at least 3 other coins in my collection that came from that old collection. I wish I'd been aware of what was being auctioned back when it started.
Jeff - We are all working on the eye, it is a process that never ends.
Pics for this AM, not a barber but one that came from the same place my raw 13-S did, now in PC55:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern, That 27-S is Sweet!
Vern....Having collected SLQ's for many years - and my last collection was sold en mass to
Liz at JJ Teaparty a couple of years ago.
The 27-S has always been my bug-aboo.... I never owned one I loved. Everyone of them had
scooped out heads, and an overall soft strike. My best one was an MS 63 - and I always considered it a hole filler.
Your's looks to be an attractive coin. Never realized you collected SLQ's too.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Paesan - Thanks.
Mike - Thanks, also. I don't collect SLQ's, but I have couple.
Pics for this AM, back to a barber, a "common" coin that I've always really liked, now PC58:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Beautiful Quarter, Vern. I don't think as common as you do- I've had a tough time finding a nice one.
I agree, Jeff; the 08 Phila Quarter is more elusive in AU 55-58 than many realize !
Threw in a decent bid on a weekly Heritage Tuesday auction a few days ago -
this morning, I found out I won....
I'll be sending it off to CAC as soon as it arrives.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Jeff, Mike, The BCCS data analysis showed that the '08-P was one of the least collected Philadelphia quarters - tougher than the '94 and '96. The '13-P has more notariety and is collected or hoarded more frequently because of it. The '08-P is unnoticed and a sleeper.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
My YN Photographer noticed this on CRO yesterday - so... I called John and he's holding it pending my check's arrival:
I have a sub set of V Nickel Toners - and this is scheduled for that collection.
For what its worth...the new system won't allow me to add this to my Basic Set... I want to delete the MS 64 I have
and high light this beauty. Its very frustrating. Very !!!!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Mike-
You da MAN wid dem Nickels!
As a kid in the late 60's and early 70's I began collecting VG to VF Barber Halves. I don't think I had much of a set by the time I went to college and forgot about coins for a while. In 1980 I had graduated from college and was married; I began to think about coins again. In March of 1980 I was at a coin show in Minneapolis and ran across a beautiful looking 1892 S Barber Half (obviously raw). It looked flawless to me. The dealer wanted $675 for it- a LOT of money at the time. I decided to purchase it. About 6 years ago I finally got it graded; it came back in an AU 55 holder:
Although this coin is no longer in my Everyman Registry set (I have a 58 there) it holds a very special place in my heart; it's the coin that set me on the quest to put together an AU set of Barber Halves.
Jeff...bring that coin when you come to Naples, I'd love to see it in hand.
It's Green Bean worthy !! Very nice coin !!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Mike- I planned on submitting it. There's something special about first love.....
Good to hear....
I've been working on completing my V Nickel sets - and I just picked up this "missing date"...
or, I've lost my memory completely... God only knows....
Not all that Earth shaking - but looks nice - for what it is....
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Mike- Good looking nickel; glad to hear your set is nearing completion.
It looks like you and I are the only members on this thread; perhaps the others are now collecting baseball cards?
Nah...they've turned to Seated Coins....
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Ah.... the coins Barbers replaced because they were too boring........
I submitted a Barber quarter to our hosts on the 15th... hope to hear the results soon and report.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
I went searching for Winston Zach's Thread of Web Sites - and
found Dave Wnuck's site and as I just did some business with
his old business partner, I thought I'd check out what he was
offering... found a really pleasing 1912 Liberty Nickel - Proof
Here's the smaller version of the True View
No cheating, now. Care to guess the grade ?
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Mike and Jeff,
Interesting exchange about where all the Barber collectors have gone.
I still like to read the thread, and although I like working on other areas of the hobby as Mike alluded to, I still get excited when something new and special comes along. I've definitely reached the point where I buy what I like, not what I need. That opens up lots of new and exciting doors. I only wish I could find a few more choice Barbers priced right.
Paesan
Mike-
I'll guess Pr 65 on the '12 5C.
Here's another coin I plan on submitting to CAC (through MFH), an AU 55 '12 Half in an OGH:
I sold my 58- I liked the look of this coin better.
Mike, I'll guess 64 unless the cheek discoloration is not contact marks... then I would be closer to Jeff's assessment. The picture got a little fuzzy when I zoomed in. Nice color. A slight amount of weakness in the hair curls area is what I am taking away from the picture.
Jeff, a little bit of weakness in the eagle's armpit doesn't detract. Nice color.
9 more raw Barber quarters off to our hosts today. 2 are competitor crackouts.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Whoo hoo! the BCCS Journal arrived in the mail today!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Mine arrived yesterday as well. I did a quick page through and wow! The feature in the centerfold is amazing!
Vern, I am pretty sure those are your pictures and not somebody else's? How did the process work... did you send your digital images by email? or maybe mailed a DVD to John? Did you determine how you wanted the pictures laid out in the center spread? ? I agree with Justin, it looks great.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Vern
The J Geils Band could use a rewrite. Your Barbers are a centerfold! Congrats, they are an amazing set.
Jim
This has probably been my longest absence in years. My wife and I made the return to northern Illinois after 10 weeks in beautiful South Carolina. Go Gamecocks. The transition has left me a little unorganized. Anyway, hope to get back to the forum on my usual regular basis. There will be many new pics over the next few weeks as, in addition to receiving a box from Paesan, four (Doug, Jim, Milo and I) of us forumites met for a wonderful coin show of our own last Sunday. Many of their newps are in my hands waiting for pictures. What a great hobby, especially so when it is shared with really nice friends.
Mike - Congrats on all the newp V Nickels.
Jeff - Your 92-S was a bold purchase (and a very nice one) for 1980.
Tim - Yes, those are my pictures in the new BCCS journal. John did all the work, all I did was email the pics. He did a wonderful job on the layout.
Pics for this AM, newp into Jim's collection (and it's not a half). Congratulations by the way Jim, on completing your barber half set. This one is the nicest AU 95-O I've ever seen, NCG-53:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern: The 1895-O Barber Dime, the way a beautiful coin should look.
One of your old friends (and one of my new friends). (The way an AU quarter should look.)
Craig...glad to see you held onto your First Communion money ...looks like you tried to add an S Mint Mark.
No San Francisco Quarters in 04 - my friend. Nice try though !
Shout out to Vern.... Hey Dude, that was a great Centerfold Display.
Sorry it was limited to 12 coins. What a beautiful display !! Love it !!!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Met with JeffRM last night - looked over a large group of his halves -
{ Very Impressive - BTW } and then proceeded to go out to dinner.
We had an enjoyable dinner meeting - and afterwards, I showed
off my Proof Dimes - a few Quarters and the remaining balance of my Halves.
My PCGS submissions for Srotag are due any moment - and I have a large consignment going to CAC for he and a friend. I've still got a few odds and ends to submit myself. Waiting for my newps to arrive that do not have a Green Bean...
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Well, this afternoon, I received the PCGS submissions for my friend, SROTAG.
Although I requested True Views, none were posted. I called Phil and reassured me
that he did actually image these submissions.
Barber submissions whose images I will be posting are:
1893 Dime - MS 65
1906-D Dime - MS 66+
1907-S Dime - MS 65
1911-S Dime - MS 66
1912 Dime - MS 66
1915-S Dime - MS 65
On a personal note, my 1916-S Off Center Dime also arrived today and
it crossed from ANACS 50 to a PCGS 50.
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Cool '16 S Dime, Mike. You have some really nice coins!
I like the '06-D color!
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Couldn't agree with you more...I like them too !
Picked this up today at Stack's Blue Moon sale:
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
The '06-D quarter I purchased as an AU-58 came back from our hosts as a PC63. Here is the TrueView:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Tim, Some might argue but I'd say that's a score!
Lenny, I agree my submission set returned golden this time around. In addition to the '06-D, a return of an MS67+ '82-S Morgan, '30-P Merc in 66FB, '31-D in 64+FB shows I had a good-sized score which I can honestly parlay into my 'happy' dance today. It will extend funds at a future point for more quality Barber purchases SMILE
.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Tim...I'd say you did very well.
I like the 06-D Quarter as an MS 63....and paying AU 58 money for it,
makes it all the sweeter !!
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Tim, I'd love to see some of your other (non Barber) coins someday.
Craig - Be nice if all AU barbers looked like your '04.
Mike - Thanks on the centerfold. Congrats on the Blue Moon pick-up.
Tim - You hit the jackpot with your submission. You'll just have to buy lesser quality barbers if you want to get them in 58 holders (just kidding).
Pics for this AM, now that I'm back where my camera resides, newp (at least circa 2017) into Paesan's Stash, PC58:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Lenny, Mike, Vern, I kick myself now not purchasing the companion '07-D I saw as about AU-55 (that was with the '06-D). Perhaps it would have actually made 58. Who knows.
Lenny, the other 3 coins were TrueView captured as well (83724223, 224, 225). I have 10 more things in the hopper waiting for an April return from our hosts.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Tim... The 07-D is twice as scarce as the 06-D....I bought Don Willis' example ( 58 )
from Liz in Oct., 2015. .... It's a sleeper date ( IMHO ).
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Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Oh! salt in the wound
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Vern comes back and the thread's on FTRE!!
Wow am I excited about my recent pickup. Barber dime. 1897-S in NGC XF45. Nice in that I think I now have what is mentioned in Breen's (also in Feigenbaum's text referencing Breen) as the S over S East. Noticed it is not attributed as a variety. That includes the major 3rd party graders and even Cherrypickers Guide (CPG) by Fivaz/Stanton. Looks like another crossover candidate to our hosts. BCCS has not done a variety survey yet, right? How rare is the S/S east? Does anyone on this thread have one? I have another '97-S... need to go take a look at that one more closely.
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.