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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We hope things improve for you derryb so you could afford a freezer

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  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,409 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those drop in some glasses of bourbon or something right @baley??

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Indeed they do!

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rawteam1 said:
    all I know is there is a major deflation in ice cream, specifically Haagen-dazs , so buy, buy, buy...

    It takes more silver to buy practically everything today vs 10 years ago. Sheesh!!! It's rough out there.

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  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,958 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Baley said:
    We hope things improve for you derryb so you could afford a freezer

    Back in the day the old timers here in gods country didn't need freezers, Shoot a deer, hang in tree and nature kept it frozen all winter. Go cut off a piece of meat as needed. Those days are long gone due to global warming. Hopefully the power grid can keep your polluting freezers running. Remember, the earth is flat, dinosaurs aren't real and windmills cause cancer. Semper Fi.

    The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
    BOOMIN!™

  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    @blitzdude said:

    @Baley said:
    We hope things improve for you derryb so you could afford a freezer

    Back in the day the old timers here in gods country didn't need freezers, Shoot a deer, hang in tree and nature kept it frozen all winter. Go cut off a piece of meat as needed. Those days are long gone due to global warming. Hopefully the power grid can keep your polluting freezers running. Remember, the earth is flat, dinosaurs aren't real and windmills cause cancer. Semper Fi.

    You forgot... and gold is money...

    keceph `anah
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gawd i love this place 😉

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MLBdays said:
    Low interest rates for a long time....

    Like negative low? >:)

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2019 1:19PM

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/WALCL



    yeah

    we need to start expanding the balance sheet again....

    I'm curious why. I'd think we have about $2 Trillion of room left. and why is there a sharp V bottom up in that green circle... that quite a bounce up.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2019 3:28PM

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess it could be they are holding MBS and long dated Treasuries to maturity. that could explain the $2 trillion additional size.

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  • NIPSZXNIPSZX Posts: 79 ✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @NIPSZX said:
    This is the best global economy in all of history and it will last the longest in all of history.

    However, I think we will have a terrible crash in 2024 that will knock down the stock market to about 10,000 more than where we are now. I think the stock market will crash the DoW back all the way back down to 40,000 in 2024.

    The economy has been on life support since 2009. Most everything about it is induced temporary breathing. QE has returned. Near zero rates are close to becoming negative. FED has been unable to move rates up so that it can use rate reduction as an effective tool later. Modern Money Theory (Magic Money Tree) is about to blow the lid off of printing. After 2020 election there will much less effort/need to continue fooling the voting public. Fake news is not limited to just politics. And that's just the US. Most other nations in worse shape. Years of FED mismanagement have led to these boom/bust cycles.

    A 2024 crash is extremely optimistic.

    The thing that people don't realize is that, with the FED nowadays, bad news is better for the markets and the economy. Life support is great for an economy as we have seen.

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DrBuster said:
    Those drop in some glasses of bourbon or something right @baley??

    In baleyville, we do spheres, we do cubes, and we do free form..

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  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Baley said:

    @DrBuster said:
    Those drop in some glasses of bourbon or something right @baley??

    In baleyville, we do spheres, we do cubes, and we do free form..

    Manhattan?

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    San Diego!

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  • USASoccerUSASoccer Posts: 445 ✭✭✭

    Its hot this week in San Diego

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2019 3:07PM

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    I didn’t read that strongest economy article, but it’s obvious if the economy is strong, the stiffs want and get more and basically the people performing don’t have time for the governing bullish!t and until they care and make some moves, then all the giveaway bullish!t can be over

    keceph `anah
  • bigjpstbigjpst Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like how articles like this are targeted at trying to debunk the current administrations statements when the alternative is an additional 22 trillion or more in additional social program spending. I also wonder if the comparison is based on "income taxes" to spending or all payroll taxes to include SS and Medicare taxes.

  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    Economy is fn booming, I’m at the carwash, the guys doing the hard labor all have the wireless Apple ear pods, sh!t I don’t even have a pair..,

    keceph `anah
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2019 4:55PM

    Repo Madness: Fed Pumps Overnight Bank Funds to $120 Billion a Day

    For some of you guys the economy is like sausage: It's fabulous as long as you ignore what it takes to make it.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    money does not make the economy...

    keceph `anah
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2019 5:21PM

    @rawteam1 said:
    money does not make the economy...

    An economy is a system of labor, exchange and consumption. Money facilitates each of it's processes. Without some form of money there is no economy. Money makes the economy.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Labor is money.

    And talk of sausage is making me hungry. Maybe some homemade spaghetti sauce with hot sausage. Yup. Dinner.

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    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @rawteam1 said:
    money does not make the economy...

    An economy is a system of labor, exchange and consumption. Money facilitates each of it's processes. Without some form of money there is no economy. Money makes the economy.

    Let me be more specific since you must have been a government employee or an engineer...

    keceph `anah
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Despite religion, politics, war, feast or famine.... WalMart is open today.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Despite religion, politics, war, feast or famine.... WalMart is open today.

    check your PMs

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    major? unsure. issues? absolutely.

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    major? unsure. issues? absolutely.

    Different than any other time?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    major? unsure. issues? absolutely.

    Different than any other time?

    well they've done repos before. however, this is an ongoing basis. so, i'd say different.

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:

    @cohodk said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    major? unsure. issues? absolutely.

    Different than any other time?

    well they've done repos before. however, this is an ongoing basis. so, i'd say different.

    I would say its always the same.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 25, 2019 9:28AM

    oh, and don't forget they put keystroked cash on reserve accounts and bought assets with it just to try to remedy the tightness in the secondary repo market. that is different, too.

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Everything about the FED is different since they failed us in 2007

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    snafu?

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MsMorrisine said:
    oh, and don't forget they put keystroked cash on reserve accounts and bought assets with it. that is different, too.

    Done that before also> @derryb said:

    Everything about the FED is different since they failed us in 2007

    Lol..the FED attempts to fix our politicians mistakes. And they do a pretty good job considering they garbage they are handed. You should be thankful for the FED.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Everything about the FED is different since they failed us in 2007

    Failed us? Sh!t they gave me the greatest opportunities of a lifetime, loved it and livin it, they also gave everyone else the exact same opportunities...

    keceph `anah
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rawteam1 said:

    @derryb said:
    Everything about the FED is different since they failed us in 2007

    Failed us? Sh!t they gave me the greatest opportunities of a lifetime, loved it and livin it, they also gave everyone else the exact same opportunities...

    They parted the clouds to let the sun shine on the doom and gloomers. How dare they.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,238 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    oh, and don't forget they put keystroked cash on reserve accounts and bought assets with it. that is different, too.

    Done that before also

    not for the purpose of loosening the repo market. never done that.

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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 26, 2019 3:53PM

    @cohodk said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    oh, and don't forget they put keystroked cash on reserve accounts and bought assets with it. that is different, too.

    Done that before also> @derryb said:

    Everything about the FED is different since they failed us in 2007

    Lol..the FED attempts to fix our politicians mistakes. And they do a pretty good job considering they garbage they are handed. You should be thankful for the FED.

    Yes, like how the Federal Reserve issued 56,000 metric tons worth of gold-clause notes from 1914-1933 with no gold to back them. And then they insisted that the government bail them out by cancelling all their (gold) obligations, which Roosevelt did.

    The government has shirked their single most important duty, and that is to provide a fair and stable medium of exchange for the general economy. But now there is a middle-man taking 3% of a large percentage of all commercial transactions (credit card). And the FED skims their 6% profits off the top of the economy as well. It used to be that a merchant and a customer could get together and have a cost-free transaction using stable money.

    From 1865 to 1914 there was a lot of sound economic growth in the United States. The FED was not required for that. Since the inception of the FED, repeated economic crises have been more frequent and severe. The policies have resulted in a concentration of wealth and power at the top, at the expense of everyone else. The standard of living is going up for a few and down for the majority. It used to be that one spouse could stay home and do the domestic duties. But for most families today, both spouses have to work to make ends meet.

    North Dakota has the right idea with their state-owned bank which is run for the benefit of all. Don't get me wrong, I'm a devout capitalist. But the one thing that really should be nationalized is banks.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    oh, and don't forget they put keystroked cash on reserve accounts and bought assets with it. that is different, too.

    Done that before also> @derryb said:

    Everything about the FED is different since they failed us in 2007

    Lol..the FED attempts to fix our politicians mistakes. And they do a pretty good job considering they garbage they are handed. You should be thankful for the FED.

    The FED is too busy trying to fix its own mistakes. Boom/bust cycles, what are they good for?

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2019 8:44AM

    So dcarr, you are upset because there are credit cards?

    Have you really studied economic history from 1865-1914 and concluded that was a better time for the USA than any other, or from 1914-present?
    Recessions were much more frequent, lasted longer and were much deeper. Yet you say that was better?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 27, 2019 2:50PM

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @MsMorrisine said:
    oh, and don't forget they put keystroked cash on reserve accounts and bought assets with it. that is different, too.

    Done that before also> @derryb said:

    Everything about the FED is different since they failed us in 2007

    Lol..the FED attempts to fix our politicians mistakes. And they do a pretty good job considering they garbage they are handed. You should be thankful for the FED.

    The FED is too busy trying to fix its own mistakes. Boom/bust cycles, what are they good for?

    Kinda like highways. We cruise along at 75 mph, then come up along some jack that wasnt paying attention and rear ends a tractor trailer. According to you we should just keep driving along at 75, whereas a more prudent person would make a different decision.

    According to you, tapping the brakes is bad when the road is congested, just as pressing the accelerator is bad on the open road.

    Im sure glad im not on your bus.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    constantly stomping on the brakes and then the gas is no way to drive an economy. The lower half of the economic spectrum suffers from the bust while the upper half are rewarded during the boom. You and your pet rock should know that by now.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,185 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    constantly stomping on the brakes and then the gas is no way to drive an economy. The lower half of the economic spectrum suffers from the bust while the upper half are rewarded during the boom. You and your pet rock should know that by now.

    Such a socialist statement.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    constantly stomping on the brakes and then the gas is no way to drive an economy. The lower half of the economic spectrum suffers from the bust while the upper half are rewarded during the boom. You and your pet rock should know that by now.

    Such a socialist statement.

    OK Hillary.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:
    So dcarr, you are upset because there are credit cards?

    Have you really studied economic history from 1865-1914 and concluded that was a better time for the USA than any other, or from 1914-present?
    Recessions were much more frequent, lasted longer and were much deeper. Yet you say that was better?

    You are confusing the economic benefits of technological advancements with the actions of the Federal Reserve.
    Any increases in standards of living that we have seen are due to technology, not the FED. In fact, standards of living would be much higher without the FED.

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

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