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  • aj2525raj2525r Posts: 120 ✭✭

    Regards

    Legally allowed 10%. ??????

    How much did your property appreciate in value?

    7.4 billion gotta eat, drink and skeep somewhere. Seems like a lot of demand to me.

    "Anything is worth only what the purchaser is willing to pay for it."

    The North Texas Real Estate Information System says prices in Dallas are up 7% year over year to August 2017. (Google News search)

    I agree everyone wants food and a place to sleep, but having self checkout, self driving vehicles and robots running the factories makes me think fewer people are needed.

    I still call my accumulation my collection!
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There must be an annual cap for property taxes in his locale. I don't know of any area in the US, where property taxes are not going up...I'm sure there are exceptions.

    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So you tax bill went up 6.9% because your property went up 7%.

    Yes, fewer people will be needed for remedial and repetitive tasks...just as has been taking place for the last 100 years.

    Americans are quite the innovative lot. Don't count them out.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, my Carl's Jr. Burger Index went up another notch. The #3 combo, western bacon burger with medium fries and drink, is now $9.26 with tax, it has been rising steadily in the past few years.

    Back in 1990, this meal was $5.25. The good news is that the sandwich is just as good and big as ever, maybe better, and the drink size they call medium used to be the large.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:
    So you tax bill went up 6.9% because your property went up 7%.

    Yes, fewer people will be needed for remedial and repetitive tasks...just as has been taking place for the last 100 years.

    Americans are quite the innovative lot. Don't count them out.

    Count out those with raw ambition and talent that have little chance of being self employed. Municipalities put the independents behind the eight ball by subsidizing the behemoths such as Amazon.

    Bank, insurance and auto bailouts killed Capitalism and rolled out a retread of Fascism.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Count out those with raw ambition and talent that have little chance of being self employed

    Then they didn't have ambition or talent. Such a defeatist bunch we have here. No wonder "they" have such control.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I tried the rose colored glasses, they sure make things look better - until you take them off.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    I tried the rose colored glasses, they sure make things look better - until you take them off.

    Or the artificial coloring fades...

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2017 3:15PM

    If the economy is improving, why are tax receipts deteriorating? Further proof of the FED induced "selective" asset bubble.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2017 3:35PM

    Saying the economy is improving is like saying the weather is improving.

    Time and place, my friends, time and place

    Sometimes it's sunny, sometimes it sucks.

    Some places have more good times than others, and so do some people.

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Local property taxes increased 8% in my municipality this year. ZIRP - the gift that keeps on giving. :o

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 22, 2017 4:12PM

    @derryb said:
    If the economy is improving, why are tax receipts deteriorating? Further proof of the FED induced "selective" asset bubble.

    Is your chart purposely misleading?

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/W006RC1Q027SBEA

    Sucks to have been on the wrong side for the last decade. If only you had been warned.

    Some would have thought you'd be tired by now of being proven wrong about the economy. I really can't fathom how you can see a bad economy, especially living where you do. VanHalen and Roadrunner I get...overtaxed and declining populations. Of course that will suck.

    Get out of your hell holes and travel this wonderful country. You'll be amazed.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Inflation will soon be transferred from asset markets back into the economy once it is realized there will be no great income tax reform and once FED balance sheet reduction proceeds. Assets will drop like a rock and consumer prices will absorb the momentum. Expected rate hike will not materialize.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why will consumer prices go up if the stock market drops?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If all the new money is no longer going into assets and at the same time being pulled from them where do you think it will go - into a savings account at 1% interest?

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Host: Let's play Consumer Jeopardy! R95, go ahead.

    R95: Indexes for $500.

    Host: Answer is...5,109 points

    R95: What is the DJIA increase since Nov 8, 2016.

    Host: Correct!

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    If all the new money is no longer going into assets and at the same time being pulled from them where do you think it will go - into a savings account at 1% interest?

    Well, lets say the US stock market is worth $20 trillion and it drops 25%, does that mean that $5 trillion went into other assets?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Same as last time, all assets take a big hit.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    Same as last time, all assets take a big hit.

    So how does this support your contention of consumer price inflation?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe what derryb is saying is when trillions of USD in various assets are sold, a chunk will enter M1/M2 and temporarily spike prices of consumer goods.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said:
    I believe what derryb is saying is when trillions of USD in various assets are sold, a chunk will enter M1/M2 and temporarily spike prices of consumer goods.

    Maybe that's what's he's saying, but history does not support his assertion.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Prices of goods and services will indeed fluctuate over time and space.

    The Baleyville Citrus Index (BCI) has been mentioned prior. The orange and lemon crop in 2017 is well above average in yield and quality, so fruit and juice prices will be down (but well make up some on volume) Couple years ago, drought, bad harvest, prices up, volume down, we even imported some, unusual.

    Got lemonade and fresh squeezed OJ?

    Bettern gold, on a hot Indian Summer day, while working on the honeydo list

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • dpooledpoole Posts: 5,940 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Florida United Numismatists annual dues have gone up from $15.00 to $20.00 per annum this year. A 33% increase!

    Put THAT in your Baleyville pipe and smoke it! :#:#

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow, five bucks a year increase. That's like a dime a week!

    Also, are beef prices going up for you guys? Nice choice rib eye and NYstrips seem higher at the stores

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My health care premiums are going from $152/month to $216/month for 2018. A 42% increase for the same coverage. Oh the humanity!

    Health care costs aren't in the CPI are they? Oh I forgot. Yes they are. ;)

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said:
    My health care premiums are going from $152/month to $216/month for 2018. A 42% increase for the same coverage. Oh the humanity!

    Health care costs aren't in the CPI are they? Oh I forgot. Yes they are. ;)

    How do you know its the same coverage? I'll wager its going to be worse .

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When lap dances go from $20 and $25 the end is nigh

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Justacommeman said:
    When lap dances go from $20 and $25 the end is nigh

    m

    Where can you still get a lap dance for $20?! I haven't had one in 15 years and they were $25 then.

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bronco2078 said:

    @VanHalen said:
    My health care premiums are going from $152/month to $216/month for 2018. A 42% increase for the same coverage. Oh the humanity!

    Health care costs aren't in the CPI are they? Oh I forgot. Yes they are. ;)

    How do you know its the same coverage? I'll wager its going to be worse .

    Details forthcoming in our November meetings. The increase is being blamed on the (Federally mandated) removal of preventive care discounts.

  • ShadyDaveShadyDave Posts: 2,201 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Baley said:
    Saying the economy is improving is like saying the weather is improving.

    Time and place, my friends, time and place

    Sometimes it's sunny, sometimes it sucks.

    Some places have more good times than others, and so do some people.

    Well said. While the economy is humming along throughout most of the country, CT is on the verge of bankruptcy. It took the legislature well over 110 days past the deadline to get a budget...and also managed to lose jobs for 3 straight months. That takes some dedication!!! This is what happens when you let your politicians make promises for years but don't care enough to pay those promises for 40 years.

    http://www.courant.com/business/hc-biz-september-job-losses20171019-story.html

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks.

    Nevertheless, i heard that maybe some of the folks who live in CT are doing ok financially? ;)

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @VanHalen said:

    @Justacommeman said:
    When lap dances go from $20 and $25 the end is nigh

    m

    Where can you still get a lap dance for $20?! I haven't had one in 15 years and they were $25 then.

    That must have been one with all the trimmings

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Baley said:
    Thanks.

    Nevertheless, i heard that maybe some of the folks who live in CT are doing ok financially? ;)

    Yes they are. As are many folks across the country.

    When cities and states around the country are going belly-up on statutory obligations many of the residents of same will be quite well off.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have no answers. Silver is down. Beans are up.

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I have no answers. Silver is down. Beans are up.

    monetary policy and where new money is directed determines which assets are inflated.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    I have no answers. Silver is down. Beans are up.

    monetary policy and where new money is directed determines which assets are inflated.

    Yup, simple as that!

    It certainly can't be that the aggregate investment community considers historical returns and volatility, ot thinks about the possible current utilization of assets and income generation , or speculates on future growth in differential areas and sectors!

    Oh no! We're all simply puppets of the Them Fed!

    Right!?!

    (Well, not those of us with some PMs, OH NO! We smart ones just hold our little coins and bars and are smug non-puppets, eh? OhYES! at least that's what the ads on the TV box say.. what's in Your safe eh?)

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Them Fed are sock puppets for Wall Street.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    See sigline. ;)

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not another Dallas Cowboys fan....ugh. lol

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pineapples at my local Safeway....$7! So do I drive to Walmart where I can get 'em for just under $3? It would cost me almost a gallon of gas roundtrip and gas is $2.78. And then there's the time involved. Is my effort worth the difference of a buck-twenty-two? The wear and tear on the vehicle? Insurance? Too two to much stress, I'll have my umbrella-drink w/o the pineapple wedge today.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @renman95 said:
    Pineapples at my local Safeway....$7! So do I drive to Walmart where I can get 'em for just under $3? It would cost me almost a gallon of gas roundtrip and gas is $2.78. And then there's the time involved. Is my effort worth the difference of a buck-twenty-two? The wear and tear on the vehicle? Insurance? Too two to much stress, I'll have my umbrella-drink w/o the pineapple wedge today.

    Paradise can suck sometimes.

    m

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @renman95 said:
    Pineapples at my local Safeway....$7! So do I drive to Walmart where I can get 'em for just under $3? It would cost me almost a gallon of gas roundtrip and gas is $2.78. And then there's the time involved. Is my effort worth the difference of a buck-twenty-two? The wear and tear on the vehicle? Insurance? Too two to much stress, I'll have my umbrella-drink w/o the pineapple wedge today.

    Got room in your backyard? Grow you own.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When prices increase because of changes in supply and demand more investment and production usually follow - this is a good thing. Unfortunately most prices increases in recent history are the result of changes in the money - not such a good thing. Monetary policy (or lack of) is what now drives inflation. Worry not, your Federal Reserve remains tasked with providing a stable dollar.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Remember the high school business class definition of inflation (early 1980's)? "Too much money chasing too few goods"

    We sure don't have too few goods (or services) and while there are enormous amounts of money in the system, 80% if it is in the hands of 20% of the population.

    Barring a large spike in commodity prices we will see low inflation for some time to come.

  • renman95renman95 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cohodk said:

    @renman95 said:
    Pineapples at my local Safeway....$7! So do I drive to Walmart where I can get 'em for just under $3? It would cost me almost a gallon of gas roundtrip and gas is $2.78. And then there's the time involved. Is my effort worth the difference of a buck-twenty-two? The wear and tear on the vehicle? Insurance? Too two to much stress, I'll have my umbrella-drink w/o the pineapple wedge today.

    Got room in your backyard? Grow you own.

    Nah, takes two years and probably $50 in water.

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:
    When prices increase because of changes in supply and demand more investment and production usually follow - this is a good thing. Unfortunately most prices increases in recent history are the result of changes in the money - not such a good thing. Monetary policy (or lack of) is what now drives inflation. Worry not, your Federal Reserve remains tasked with providing a stable dollar.

    Most prices increase recently are due to taxes and govt mandates and subsidies and are not the effect of supply/demand or monetary policy.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @renman95 said:

    @cohodk said:

    @renman95 said:
    Pineapples at my local Safeway....$7! So do I drive to Walmart where I can get 'em for just under $3? It would cost me almost a gallon of gas roundtrip and gas is $2.78. And then there's the time involved. Is my effort worth the difference of a buck-twenty-two? The wear and tear on the vehicle? Insurance? Too two to much stress, I'll have my umbrella-drink w/o the pineapple wedge today.

    Got room in your backyard? Grow you own.

    Nah, takes two years and probably $50 in water.

    It doesn't rain in Hawaii?

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 18, 2017 4:41AM

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    When prices increase because of changes in supply and demand more investment and production usually follow - this is a good thing. Unfortunately most prices increases in recent history are the result of changes in the money - not such a good thing. Monetary policy (or lack of) is what now drives inflation. Worry not, your Federal Reserve remains tasked with providing a stable dollar.

    Most prices increase recently are due to taxes and govt mandates and subsidies and are not the effect of supply/demand or monetary policy.

    BS. Most price increases are the result of a decrease in the dollar's purchasing power. The price of a 1964 90% silver Kennedy half dollar is a good example.

    Only a fool believes a weaker dollar buys more goods.

    The government is incapable of ever managing the economy. That is why communism collapsed. It is now socialism’s turn - Martin Armstrong

  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,187 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @cohodk said:

    @derryb said:
    When prices increase because of changes in supply and demand more investment and production usually follow - this is a good thing. Unfortunately most prices increases in recent history are the result of changes in the money - not such a good thing. Monetary policy (or lack of) is what now drives inflation. Worry not, your Federal Reserve remains tasked with providing a stable dollar.

    Most prices increase recently are due to taxes and govt mandates and subsidies and are not the effect of supply/demand or monetary policy.

    BS. Most price increases are the result of a decrease in the dollar's purchasing power. The price of a 1964 90% silver Kennedy half dollar is a good example.

    Only a fool believes a weaker dollar buys more goods.

    Darn it gold.....you were supposed to protect me from the fiat printing presses. You lied to me. Shame in you. Now I'm so far behind my fellow investors. I'll never catch up. Oh well, at least my kids will have some ting to dump at the pawn shop.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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