<< <i> 1972 BKB yielded a few HOF names and stars. 1973 BB had nice cards but nobody of major significance. I'll scan some of these later. >>
Some nice pulls! You may do alright on the '73 pack if you have any low pop commons that have a shot at a 9. Some commons in the high series go for $200+ in MINT condition.
<< <i>" I'm not sure how they treat the rough edge like that."
i just submitted a bunch of 86 Fleer with that rough cut and nearly all came back 8s >>
I thought rough edges are not supposed to be a factor (I have seen plenty of high-end cards with them), but I guess with certain cards the standard grading philosophies are not the same?
"I thought rough edges are not supposed to be a factor (I have seen plenty of high-end cards with them), but I guess with certain cards the standard grading philosophies are not the same? "
I was hoping the same, like how they are lenient with OPC, but most of mine were 60/40 centering, none or very minimal chipping, and rough cut on one side and were mostly 8s. might be grader specific?
David ... GREAT RIP! Congrats. Hope they grade even higher than you are hoping for.
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>" I'm not sure how they treat the rough edge like that."
i just submitted a bunch of 86 Fleer with that rough cut and nearly all came back 8s >>
I thought rough edges are not supposed to be a factor (I have seen plenty of high-end cards with them), but I guess with certain cards the standard grading philosophies are not the same? >>
I can't speak for basketball as I don't collect it. For baseball, rough cuts can impact the grade, especially on issues with color borders, if it results in chipping. For example with 1971 Topps baseball, a card that has chipping along the edges will usually not get higher than an 8. If the rough cut doesn't result in chipping along the border, then it shouldn't downgrade the card.
I can't speak for basketball as I don't collect it. For baseball, rough cuts can impact the grade, especially on issues with color borders, if it results in chipping. For example with 1971 Topps baseball, a card that has chipping along the edges will usually not get higher than an 8. If the rough cut doesn't result in chipping along the border, then it shouldn't downgrade the card.
This is correct. I have found that rough cuts on white stock will not negatively impact the grade as much as if the stock were colored. PSA also grants more leniency for rough cuts (in general) for issues in which it is very common due to production methods, such as OPC cards.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
2 packs of '86 Fleer Basketball received today, one has a Jabbar sticker showing through the back and Derek Smith in front, the other has an Alex English sticker back and.............
i can't tell who's in front. the card is upright.
solid looking clean packs these be. i will let them taunt me for awhile.
<< <i>2 packs of '86 Fleer Basketball received today, one has a Jabbar sticker showing through the back and Derek Smith in front, the other has an Alex English sticker back and.............
i can't tell who's in front. the card is upright.
solid looking clean packs these be. i will let them taunt me for awhile. >>
So, how did the rip go???
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting: Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>2 packs of '86 Fleer Basketball received today, one has a Jabbar sticker showing through the back and Derek Smith in front, the other has an Alex English sticker back and.............
i can't tell who's in front. the card is upright.
solid looking clean packs these be. i will let them taunt me for awhile. >>
So, how did the rip go??? >>
package non-rippage, amigo. i flicked that little devil guy off my shoulder like an unwanted bird poop.
One person didn't pay so the following packs are available. Please reply back to this thread with what and how many you want. This will work on a first come first serve basis. Once you have reserved, please pay Steve for the packs and reply back on the thread you did.
One person didn't pay so the following packs are available. Please reply back to this thread with what and how many you want. This will work on a first come first serve basis. Once you have reserved, please pay Steve for the packs and reply back on the thread you did.
I'm pretty late to the party here, but I just got my cards yesterday. As always, thank you Mark, but also ga5150. I really like the box.
So here's the packs:
Mostly I am happy with the packs. The '73 has a slight tear from the gum and the 73/74 basketball is too off center for me to want to keep it as a high end pack for my collection. So I'll take a bit of a hit if I sell those, but I'm very happy with the '72 pack and it will be graded. The '72 is my favorite pack, so I'm glad that was the best one.
So here's the packs that are ready to rip:
Below are the highlights of the 5 packs:
This is a pic and not a scan, but the card is nice outside of the cut and I think you can see the cut here. Is it worth grading or am I headed for the dreaded OC tag on this one? If I am, I'd rather just keep it raw. It was fun to get a hit either way and I doubt I'll sell it. It's been a long time since I pulled the card I was looking for and I like this one.
To bigdcards: "you are right" - cpamike "That is correct" -grote15
I got mine this morning, actually last night but the box sat in front of my house overnight as I had duty. I only pulled an OC Art Monk in my 4 81 Topps packs, I am keeping my 82 Topps racks sealed. I did add two 2001 Topps Football Jumbo boxes to my order and pulled 4 Brees, 4 Tomlinsons and 4 Vick Rookie cards but all except 1 Vick had varying degrees of surface damage due to the cards sticking together. I was searching for the Rookie Premiere Autos of the aforementioned players and missed but I did hit this:
Mark, you are like a crack dealer to us addicts. Just one more pack, just one more, I can quit anytime.
Jim >>
That's funny Jim. You remember the anti-drug commercials from the early 80's....."C'mon try it, it will make you feel good, it will make you feel good". It's hard not to resist.
<< <i> Is it worth grading or am I headed for the dreaded OC tag on this one? If I am, I'd rather just keep it raw. It was fun to get a hit either way and I doubt I'll sell it. It's been a long time since I pulled the card I was looking for and I like this one. >>
I don't think it would get an OC. It actually looks pretty nicely centered compared to many examples. Nice pull!
My packs. Got basketball '72-79. All ready to Go to PSA to get slabbed. Trying to complete my run of packs.
Opened the following: 2 '81FB--nothing of interest. 2 '83 cello--zilch. Opened 2 '84 FB and was plEased to pull a very nice Marino. Will post scans when I get home. 8. Maybe a 9. Some other slabable cards
Also got the 78 basketball wax box. Awesome condition!
Very sweet Marino RC. That should grade an 8 for sure. Anytime you can pull and grade your own PSA 8-9 its a great thing. The more I rip the more I see how hard it is to pull centered, clean cards.
That MJ and the 72 Topps Rose are gorgeous. Absolute stunners!
Still dying to see if anyone pulled the Magic/Bird...
Upset I missed this rip, hopefully get in on the next one. Keep the scans coming!
Just got my additional packs from the BBCE from the nonpaying bidder. I even added a 1973-74 basketball pack to the order and Steve was nice enough to give me the 10% discount on it. So that pack ended up being less then what they were priced at for the group rip. Awesome!!! A few of these will be ripped later tonight.
Grades just popped on the Jordan and a few others:
The Jordan was an 8 as expected
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 FLEER 57 MICHAEL JORDAN
I also had my six free vouchers that i've been sitting on for a while so I sent some others in:
MINT 9 1994 UPPER DECK MINOR LEAGUE TC1 ALEX RODRIGUEZ TRADE CARD MINT 9 1986 FLEER STICKER 11 DOMINIQUE WILKINS NEAR MINT 7 1986 FLEER 9 LARRY BIRD NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 FLEER 11 ROLANDO BLACKMAN NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 FLEER 77 CHRIS MULLIN N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT1986 FLEER 122 GERALD WILKINS
I'm just happy the Jordan wasnt the card that came back N6!
Originally posted by: lahmejoon Great memories. Mark was awesome setting those up.
That break was about $40K in product. The most $'s we had ever spent. Probably $100K if we did it today. The funny thing was the 86 Fleer box was added last and I wasn't going to because I didn't think we could sell it out because of all the other high $'s boxes we had. Mike Kelley talked me into it an said it would be the first to sell out.......dangit if he wasn't right.
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<< <i>
1972 BKB yielded a few HOF names and stars. 1973 BB had nice cards but nobody of major significance. I'll scan
some of these later.
>>
Some nice pulls! You may do alright on the '73 pack if you have any low pop commons that have a shot at a 9. Some commons in the high series go for $200+ in MINT condition.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
But they were all stinkers.
i just submitted a bunch of 86 Fleer with that rough cut and nearly all came back 8s
<< <i>" I'm not sure how they treat the rough edge like that."
i just submitted a bunch of 86 Fleer with that rough cut and nearly all came back 8s >>
I thought rough edges are not supposed to be a factor (I have seen plenty of high-end cards with them), but I guess with certain cards the standard
grading philosophies are not the same?
Dave
grading philosophies are not the same? "
I was hoping the same, like how they are lenient with OPC, but most of mine were 60/40 centering, none or very minimal chipping, and rough cut on one side and were mostly 8s. might be grader specific?
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>
<< <i>" I'm not sure how they treat the rough edge like that."
i just submitted a bunch of 86 Fleer with that rough cut and nearly all came back 8s >>
I thought rough edges are not supposed to be a factor (I have seen plenty of high-end cards with them), but I guess with certain cards the standard
grading philosophies are not the same? >>
I can't speak for basketball as I don't collect it. For baseball, rough cuts can impact the grade, especially on issues with color borders, if it results in chipping. For example with 1971 Topps baseball, a card that has chipping along the edges will usually not get higher than an 8. If the rough cut doesn't result in chipping along the border, then it shouldn't downgrade the card.
I can't speak for basketball as I don't collect it. For baseball, rough cuts can impact the grade, especially on issues with color borders, if it results in chipping. For example with 1971 Topps baseball, a card that has chipping along the edges will usually not get higher than an 8. If the rough cut doesn't result in chipping along the border, then it shouldn't downgrade the card.
This is correct. I have found that rough cuts on white stock will not negatively impact the grade as much as if the stock were colored. PSA also grants more leniency for
rough cuts (in general) for issues in which it is very common due to production methods, such as OPC cards.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
i can't tell who's in front. the card is upright.
solid looking clean packs these be. i will let them taunt me for awhile.
If this is a 9, Text then that one should be an 11!
TheClockworkAngelCollection
<< <i>Wow, congrats on the Jordan!
If this is a 9, Text then that one should be an 11! >>
I was thinking 8 or 8.5 on mine with the print eye and all...Will let everyone know how it turns out.
Dave
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1980-1989 Cello Packs - Rookies
<< <i>2 packs of '86 Fleer Basketball received today, one has a Jabbar sticker showing through the back and Derek Smith in front, the other has an Alex English sticker back and.............
i can't tell who's in front. the card is upright.
solid looking clean packs these be. i will let them taunt me for awhile.
So, how did the rip go???
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>
<< <i>2 packs of '86 Fleer Basketball received today, one has a Jabbar sticker showing through the back and Derek Smith in front, the other has an Alex English sticker back and.............
i can't tell who's in front. the card is upright.
solid looking clean packs these be. i will let them taunt me for awhile.
So, how did the rip go???
package non-rippage, amigo. i flicked that little devil guy off my shoulder like an unwanted bird poop.
One person didn't pay so the following packs are available. Please reply back to this thread with what and how many you want. This will work on a first come first serve basis. Once you have reserved, please pay Steve for the packs and reply back on the thread you did.
(1) 72/73 Topps Basketball ($123.75/ea)
(2) 74/75 Topps Basketball ($150.00/ea)
Mark
T206 Set - 300/524
Thanks
<< <i>Guys,
One person didn't pay so the following packs are available. Please reply back to this thread with what and how many you want. This will work on a first come first serve basis. Once you have reserved, please pay Steve for the packs and reply back on the thread you did.
(2) 72/73 Topps Basketball
(2) 74/75 Topps Basketball
(2) 77/78 Topps Basketball
(2) 78/79 Topps Basketball
(2) 76/77 Topps Hockey
Mark >>
Cincy, for some of us that missed the original thread could you add the pricing?
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
TheClockworkAngelCollection
(1) 72/73 Topps Basketball
(2) 77/78 Topps Basketball
(2) 78/79 Topps Basketball
(2) 76/77 Topps Hockey
T206 Set - 300/524
I assume not paying keeps you out of future breaks.
Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
<< <i>Three packs left.
(1) 72/73 Topps Basketball ($123.75/ea)
(2) 74/75 Topps Basketball ($150.00/ea)
Mark >>
Isn't the 74/75 56.25 a pack?
If so I will take those 2 also
Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
<< <i>
<< <i>Three packs left.
(1) 72/73 Topps Basketball ($123.75/ea)
(2) 74/75 Topps Basketball ($150.00/ea)
Mark >>
Isn't the 74/75 56.25 a pack?
If so I will take those 2 also
Jim >>
Jim, my mistake, you are right. You have the last three packs.
And yes, failure to pay will keep you from participating in future breaks.
Mark
T206 Set - 300/524
I'm pretty late to the party here, but I just got my cards yesterday. As always, thank you Mark, but also ga5150. I really like the box.
So here's the packs:
Mostly I am happy with the packs. The '73 has a slight tear from the gum and the 73/74 basketball is too off center for me to want to keep it as a high end pack for my collection. So I'll take a bit of a hit if I sell those, but I'm very happy with the '72 pack and it will be graded. The '72 is my favorite pack, so I'm glad that was the best one.
So here's the packs that are ready to rip:
Below are the highlights of the 5 packs:
This is a pic and not a scan, but the card is nice outside of the cut and I think you can see the cut here. Is it worth grading or am I headed for the dreaded OC tag on this one? If I am, I'd rather just keep it raw. It was fun to get a hit either way and I doubt I'll sell it. It's been a long time since I pulled the card I was looking for and I like this one.
Also I paid Steve this morning for the additional packs from the non-payer and added a 1973-74 basketball pack. Can't wait to get them.
Jeff
Mark, you are like a crack dealer to us addicts. Just one more pack, just one more, I can quit anytime.
Jim
60's OPC packs
72 BB, 60's FB, 71FB, 73FB, 74FB, 75FB, 76FB, 78FB Rack Packs
72 and earlier BB cello
here are my pics--
highlight was this--1st I have ever pulled. An 8? 8.5? 9? who the heck knows? We'll find out tho!!
the following will be sent to PSA and comprise most of my pack run back to '61 Fleer
and the box that I won is very nice--'78/9 basketball
thanks Cincy for setting it up !!
<< <i>Paid for the last 3 packs.
Mark, you are like a crack dealer to us addicts. Just one more pack, just one more, I can quit anytime.
Jim >>
That's funny Jim. You remember the anti-drug commercials from the early 80's....."C'mon try it, it will make you feel good, it will make you feel good". It's hard not to resist.
Mark
T206 Set - 300/524
<< <i> Is it worth grading or am I headed for the dreaded OC tag on this one? If I am, I'd rather just keep it raw. It was fun to get a hit either way and I doubt I'll sell it. It's been a long time since I pulled the card I was looking for and I like this one. >>
I don't think it would get an OC. It actually looks pretty nicely centered compared to many examples. Nice pull!
Opened the following: 2 '81FB--nothing of interest. 2 '83 cello--zilch. Opened 2 '84 FB and was plEased to pull a very nice Marino. Will post scans when I get home. 8. Maybe a 9. Some other slabable cards
Also got the 78 basketball wax box. Awesome condition!
That MJ and the 72 Topps Rose are gorgeous. Absolute stunners!
Still dying to see if anyone pulled the Magic/Bird...
Upset I missed this rip, hopefully get in on the next one. Keep the scans coming!
>>
Hey Manny, that is the 1977/78 Basketball empty box, looks real nice!
Awesome pull on the Marino too, and sweet hoops pack run!!
Jeff
The Jordan was an 8 as expected
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 FLEER 57 MICHAEL JORDAN
I also had my six free vouchers that i've been sitting on for a while so I sent some others in:
MINT 9 1994 UPPER DECK MINOR LEAGUE TC1 ALEX RODRIGUEZ TRADE CARD
MINT 9 1986 FLEER STICKER 11 DOMINIQUE WILKINS
NEAR MINT 7 1986 FLEER 9 LARRY BIRD
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 FLEER 11 ROLANDO BLACKMAN
NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 FLEER 77 CHRIS MULLIN
N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT1986 FLEER 122 GERALD WILKINS
I'm just happy the Jordan wasnt the card that came back N6!
anyone open their 80 Topps Bkball packs? How were the cards?
Dave
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Just the fact that you guys were breaking a 1986/87 Fleer BK box.....
I think it's badass, you can't keep it boxed forever.
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Great memories. Mark was awesome setting those up.
That break was about $40K in product. The most $'s we had ever spent. Probably $100K if we did it today. The funny thing was the 86 Fleer box was added last and I wasn't going to because I didn't think we could sell it out because of all the other high $'s boxes we had. Mike Kelley talked me into it an said it would be the first to sell out.......dangit if he wasn't right.
The good ole days.
Mark
T206 Set - 300/524