Jeez... takes right over ... Captures the 4,000 th post. Slams TDN... Doesn't even have the common courtesy of leaving an image ... IDK, Scotty... IDK.
ATS: My Barber Thread has had 190,139 Hits. I have no idea how many posts however. Both TPG's log their info differently.
I hate to say it, but it seems as if I have carried that Thread ... hoping amongst all hope that someone would step up and keep posting on a regular basis.
Guess once I get my Nickels' images, I'll post those as well.
Ok- just three to whet your whistle !
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Nice looking and very interesting set of coins you have there, the 89 is just beautifully colored. I notice a lot of die cracks, not familiar at all with the series, is that common for the nickels. I love collecting die cracks in the Indian cent series, they are very easy to find and quite a few make up some of the Snow varieties I collect. I have to limit myself to the halves for a while, so the quarters and nickels will have to wait for a bit, looking forward to your other pics.
Those are beautiful nickels Mike... very interesting Coins... Love them!! And I was not slamming TDN.. If anything I was complementing him But I was not going to allow him to invade this thread once every 10,000 posts if I could help it
<< <i>Hey I'm in with this nasty thing....................
>>
I know you said that tongue in cheek, but it's worth noting what a special '93-S that is. Very tough indeed -- great coin. Not surprising it came from the early bird CRO message -- one day I'll subscribe to it, when I have spare money to spend on such things... right now it would be too painful!
Edit also to say, that on Tom Bush's site, he speaks of the particular toughness, of nice '93-S halves. >>
Thanks for the good words. And to others as well. I looked through this whole thread last night and enjoyed it. Hence, I just had to post my 1893-S half. I would have bought the coin no matter what date it was. But being a tough date made it all the better. My kinda coin and look.
Please... Save The Stories, Just Answer My Questions, And Tell Me How Much!!!!!
<< <i> I editing out all that doesn't apply to my response(gotta hit the hay) The available graded coins in F and better are drying up quickly! I rarely am able to buy a coin on ebay these days and really not a lot of new stuff showing up! >>
I have a bunch of Barber Halves for sale on eBay..... some of them new! >>
While you say new I still want to say fresh...as in new to the market! Nice original stuff just isn't out there right now. The 1894-S HCC sold a few days is a classic example...if it was a nice original coin it would have sold for double. Surprised it graded!
<< <i>Call me one of the unwashed, but that is a great 93-S.
That expression (reused above) is older than dirt (pun intended). I know it was not meant in any ill way. Just an expression ... a better term would have just been to delete the word "unwashed" as mentioned, it leaves a negative connotation.
If I had the time, opportunity and finances, I would have have done exactly what Darrell is accomplishing, a complete grading set in VF to AU. Years ago, I mentioned ( I must have plagiarized someone smarter than I ) ..." I never met a Barber I didn't like..."
As long as the rims are strong on both sides and some of Liberty is showing, and the reverse has E.P.U. showing, then what's not to love.
My first set of Halves back in the mid 1960's was a VG 10 set. I had more fun putting that raw set together than I think I ever had on any other set. Regardless of finances. I had a friend who was my mentor ( he is in the coin retail business today ) and he and I would scour all of Ohio going to coin shops ... and occasionally to some shows on weekends. ( How we maintained over a 3.0 GPA is amazing ).
Tastes mature, finances increase over time and the love you have for your first set of Barber Halves never diminishes. Many move on to other series ( I certainly did ) but sooner or later, you find yourself back looking at that 1913 Half and studying the Reverse, muttering...is that an impression of a removed mint mark ?
As David Hall keeps saying.... " Have fun with your coins ! " >>
I really like this post Mike! Lottsa passion and I also like that 93-S!
<< <i>Hey I'm in with this nasty thing....................
>>
I know you said that tongue in cheek, but it's worth noting what a special '93-S that is. Very tough indeed -- great coin. Not surprising it came from the early bird CRO message -- one day I'll subscribe to it, when I have spare money to spend on such things... right now it would be too painful!
Edit also to say, that on Tom Bush's site, he speaks of the particular toughness, of nice '93-S halves. >>
Thanks for the good words. And to others as well. I looked through this whole thread last night and enjoyed it. Hence, I just had to post my 1893-S half. I would have bought the coin no matter what date it was. But being a tough date made it all the better. My kinda coin and look. >>
Well, here's a coin I bought just today over the counter at Harlan J Berk. Not a lot of money, and so not a big deal, but the folks there always treat you as though you were. Doesn't matter if you're spending $5, $500 or 50k. This then could go equally well in the "nice experiences at your local B&M" thread.
The photo quality leaves something to be desired -- a combination of me shooting the mylar held in the air with one hand, while aiming with my phone's camera in the other. Background and type added in photoshop. Once my pic setup actually becomes a pic setup, I should manage a little better.
Scott - You are definitely bringing out your "A" material. Letterman is always looking for writers. Also, love your "We buy opinions". How true, how true.
Mowgli - Interesting thoughts, you got people fired up.
Justin - I'll take your VF's over most AU's or mint states for desirability.
Darrell - eBay has done their best to drive sellers away, no wonder you don't see much there.
stman - Congrats on the wonderfull 93-S.
Mike - Those are 3 neat V Nicks. My appetite is whetted. Great look on the MS65.
Original - Perfect VG, thanks for posting.
Pics for this AM, another perfect VG that belongs to a friend here in northern Illinois, PC10:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Vern.... Your friend has good tastes. That's as perfect a VG 10 as I have ever seen. It fits right into the description I gave for what I like in a VG 10.
Thanks for sharing it.
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Here's photos of my '93 S PCGS AU55, acquired from Darrell a little over a year ago. At the time I thought I was paying way up to get it, now I suspect Darrell wishes he had it back!
(Long time lurker here, don't usually have much to add, but decided to finally register).
I see that people have started discussing the news that Simpson is going to auction off his Sunnywood Morgan collection, but I haven't seen anyone mention that he's also selling off his Barber dime collection. Legend is selling the collection intact: 3.25 million with the 94S, 1.35 million without the 94S.
So, who here is ponying up for the collection?
I'm kind of disappointed that these aren't also being auctioned off. I usually focus on Barber halves, but may have been in interested in some of these. However, the entire collection in one lump payment is not feasible for me.
I had heard that the Simpson Morgan collection was going on the Market. Had not heard about the Barber Dime collection. Wonder which 94-S is in this set ? Possibly the most recent offering that Legend bought from DLRC of last year. If memory serves me correctly, it was a Branch PR 64 CAM.
LOL, I would say this is perfect timing, as there is a collector whose coffers are currently full after the sale of some high dollar sets.
.... It certainly isn't me !!
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Cavalier - Welcome to the mega-thread. At 1.35 million without the 94-S, Legend must think that the whole is worth more (far more), than the sum of its parts.
Pics for this AM, a coin of mine that came up in a phone conversation last night with a fellow forum member. One of my favorites, that I first bacame aware of here in the BST, PC64:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
You've shown that beauty before and every time I look at it I just love the surface quality and luster. Top notch coin.
I was looking at my Quarter photo album this weekend and I gazed on my old 13-S ( ex: ICG 58 / PCGS 55 ) and remembered that the sinister claw and arrow feathers were very weak. Your 64 is a bit stronger; I guess I should do some digging and see what the other higher grades ( XF40 - MS 67 ) look like.
I was so thrilled to locate an AU 58 (at that time) I paid no mind to any striking deficiencies the coin may have had. I am sure our friend Glen M is enjoying the coin. I will edit this to include the image once I am off the iPad.
Nothing new to report. The CD with the V Nickel images is in the mail. I should be posting by next weekend.
Today would have been my Mom's 93rd Birthday. Happy Birthday Ann !
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I have a question for those of you familiar with PCGS setups at shows, if I bring along my 1912d NGC 45 half to Chicago will PCGS at least give me an opinion whether it might cross or not? I have never dealt with them at a show before.
<< <i>I have a question for those of you familiar with PCGS setups at shows, if I bring along my 1912d NGC 45 half to Chicago will PCGS at least give me an opinion whether it might cross or not? I have never dealt with them at a show before.
Thanks, >>
In general, they wont give an opinion. Most of the people who take the consignments (if not all) aren't graders, and a lot of them don't even seem to like coins lol (ie, some being cute girls)
Occasionally, David Hall will man the table for a short time. He will give his opinion, but his opinion means nothing (per se) as it's the graders who have the final say what crosses.
You must be a member to submit. There are different levels of membership. If you will only submit a couple of things per year, go with the least expensive membership.
Good luck. Don't be disappointed if the coin does not cross at the exact grade on the NGC holder. I usually ask for "cross at any grade" for coins under MS.
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Or you can save you $$ to buy more coins by leaving it in the NGC plastic too ... From my experience, crossing coins, is the height of frustration.. As collectors of Barber coinage, I have found the passionate collector base (primarily the people who frequent this thread) to not only be more accurate with the grading of the coins, they/we are also more consistent .. We collect these coins and handle them daily vs. the graders who need to be jacks of all trades (masters of none)
Unless you are selling (or doing a PCGS Reg. I suppose),there wouldn't be much of a need .. But of course, that is entirely up to you and your preferences are your own .. Just my 2 cents
Edit: When I type Davey, I can't help but think of the old Sunday morning cartoon, Davey & Goliath .. I used to wake up at 5am just to watch that show as a youngster ... Man that was eons ago
Sam, I guess your right, I bought the coin because I really liked the looks in hand, I did get hooked on the registry though and sure would have liked to see it in a PCGS holder. I like the coin too much to mess with it so I guess I will enjoy it just as it is. Patches, I guess I wont have to worry about it, but you are probably right , they wouldn't be able to tell me one way or the other. I'm sure I can find a PCGS XF-45 1912D without much trouble.
Dave, if you want the coin in a PCGS holder at the same grade, your best bet would be to crack it out and send it in raw. Or as others have said just enjoy it as is.
I would be too afraid to crack it out because of the toning spot on the reverse, it might come back as damaged. I do agree it's best to enjoy this one as is, if it were a hard date to locate that would be different, there's no doubt I can find a nice PCGS XF45 1912D out there.
Dave - Thanks for reminding us what your 12-D looks like. I see it in a low end AU holder. I would grade it borderline AU 53 - but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it made it into an AU 50 holder either.
Here are a couple of Barbers that hardly ever make it into this Thread.
Yes, the Reverse of the Pan Pac is the work of Geo. Morgan. The sticker was subjected to packing tape and it lifted off the Green Color.
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EDIT: I spoke with Frank K. "Broadstruck" about the coin immediately below: It is actually an Uncentered Broadstruck. Not 5% O/C.
Edit to add the last image until I get the CD:
I picked this up at an ANA a year and a half ago [ can't remember which one now ] it belonged to a YN who wanted big numbers for it. I said for him to see Fred Weinberg and ask him what its really worth ... the kid came back and {lied, actually} and said that Fred didn't have a clue to its value. I laughed and made him an offer close to $200 { $185 ?? }
I would have paid his asking price of $500 if he had both halves...
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Dave, after seeing photos of your 12-D I would have to agree with Vern, don't crack it out. It might not make it into a graded PCGS holder. Enjoy it as is.
Thanks for the opinion Doug, although I have been collecting for many years I have very little experience with slabs. I did once have a pretty nice Franklin Half Registry set but I was just buying the registry points and not worrying too much about looks. I have started a Barber half registry set but this will be a lot slower ordeal and I will for sure buy the coins that appeal to me, I'm in no hurry.
I'm amazed at how spotted some of these coins become after being placed in the slab, I'm sure their not that way while being graded. I'm not sure if that is from being messed with, are just a natural problem that comes up with these silver coins. If your buying for the short run and reselling right away ,I guess it doesn't really matter, but I plan to keep the coins, so I want to for sure buy something I like and will stay nice in the holder. I'll eventually catch on.
Dave - I think the majority of spotting seen on coins in slabs comes from having been messed with prior to slabbing. And messed with by someone who doesn't really know what they're doing.
Pics for this AM, IMO, an unmessed with 45:
Vern l It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Some nice coins being posted. Vern, you have a great eye and I especially like the EF45 1902-O half. That is a very tough coin. The 1900-1904-O halves in high-grade circ condition almost do not exist. I remember buying a raw example of a 1901-O some years ago for about $180. It eventually graded as EF45.
Taking a bit of a collecting hiatus with my job change and move, but keeping my eyes on the next two rounds of Barber halves from the Gene Gardner set. Lots of great coins in his set. I have added just one coin to my mint state set in the past year to year and a half, the 1896 MS 66+ from the Connecticut museum auction. I miss the days when Dale Friend and Steve Duckor and I were all working together and "competing" for the gem coins. I suspect there are some other collectors out there, just not publicly posting. I still wonder what might be in the Pogue collection regarding Barber halves.
Vern - your 1902-O Half is appears to be about as nice as any XF Barber Half can be .. New Orleans or otherwise Just beautiful ... At the end of the day, it is all about eye appeal
Broadstruck has an O/C and a Broadstruck ... and if memory serves me, He also has a flip over double struck Half as well. I have images somewhere, but would prefer he post his images ... Afterall, they are his coins.
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Not much of a night owl, but I can assure you they look just as nice in the morning. The Boston AU58 is a fantastic coin, I'm amazed at how mark free these AU's seem to be, and I always favor the coins with die cracks. How are die cracks looked at by other collectors, do you like them, are do you think they take from the beauty and desirability of the piece.
Keep the pics coming Mike, I really do enjoy them.
Dave, Glad you're enjoying the Nickels so much. Personally, I would have preferred to leave them raw in their Whitman Bookshelf Album. Nickel is one of the hardest (if not the hardest ) metal we strike coins out of. More die cracks can be located on them, than other metals. They do make the coin a tad more interesting. They are not worth a premium unless it's something out of this world.
Vern, Thanks as well. Question, on Scott's 1900-S Half ( obviously an AU 58 ) - it looks very similar to another I saw yesterday on eBay. Is it the same coin ? I believe it was Scott's listing as well. Then again, knowing Scott, he must have every AU 58 that wasn't buried in someone else's collection. The man has got duplicates !!
I have picked up - via the BST - a variety for my Dime set. I swore I wouldn't get any varieties, but I just couldn't help myself... A 1905-O Micro O in PCGS 50. It seems the young man and I conversed approx. 10 years ago and we discussed Barbers in general. He sold most of his coins to help pay for college. He recently started an antique & architectural fixture business and needs funding to help it get off the ground. So, I'm pretty pumped about that.
Another collector and I are in negotiations regarding a couple of upgrades for the a dime set as well. I have a few XF 40-45's and I want everything in AU. ( I should have known better from the start of this latest set, I really only like AU Dimes ). A good friend of mine also seems to be ogling the same coins. So, the seller is playing King Solomon and dividing the coins among us. My friend already has these dates in AU 55-58 but wants duplicates. ARG !!
Mike Hayes ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
Mike - very nice nickels and great info on them as well as their "heritage"
I'll answer your question for you = it is the same coin on eBay (it is a 1900-O Half; slightly tougher than the S ) .. The coin is priced so high, I had no concern it may sell whilst in Vern's possession .. (the sell price is correlated to the buy price which was one of many foolhardy decisions made by me .. Although I must say the coin is "all there" and spectacular in hand .. And thus, I wouldn't mind taking it to the grave before I sold it for less .. It really is as nice a 58 as one could aspire to find)
And .. it is the last of my slabbed Barber halves - all others have been relocated in new collections
Scott... I didn't realize that you were actually down to your last AU Barber Half. You worked so hard to assemble a beautiful set, it seems a shame to see it disappear. Glad all the coins found their way into other collections... and not just dealers' stock !!
I realize how expensive that coin is, and you must be in it for an arm and a leg. Regardless, nothing wrong with keeping a special coin from your previous collection. I am glad I kept a few from all the sets I have assembled. All of which are part of my current set.
Vern - you have done so much for your friends, by imaging their coins and posting them, you are to be commended. You have been keeping the Barber Mega Thread alive, when I have not been able to.
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Comments
Slams TDN... Doesn't even have the common courtesy
of leaving an image ... IDK, Scotty... IDK.
ATS: My Barber Thread has had 190,139 Hits. I have
no idea how many posts however. Both TPG's log their
info differently.
I hate to say it, but it seems as if I have carried that
Thread ... hoping amongst all hope that someone would
step up and keep posting on a regular basis.
Guess once I get my Nickels' images, I'll post those as well.
Ok- just three to whet your whistle !
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I have to limit myself to the halves for a while, so the quarters and nickels will have to wait for a bit, looking forward to your other pics.
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And I was not slamming TDN.. If anything I was complementing him
But I was not going to allow him to invade this thread once every 10,000 posts if I could help it
I thought it was out of left field... My memory isn't as good
as it once was....
Glad you enjoyed the three images... Lots more coming !!
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<< <i>
<< <i>Hey I'm in with this nasty thing....................
I know you said that tongue in cheek, but it's worth noting what a special '93-S that is. Very tough indeed -- great coin. Not surprising it came from the early bird CRO message -- one day I'll subscribe to it, when I have spare money to spend on such things... right now it would be too painful!
Edit also to say, that on Tom Bush's site, he speaks of the particular toughness, of nice '93-S halves.
Thanks for the good words. And to others as well. I looked through this whole thread last night and enjoyed it. Hence, I just had to post my 1893-S half. I would have bought the coin no matter what date it was. But being a tough date made it all the better. My kinda coin and look.
<< <i>
<< <i> I editing out all that doesn't apply to my response(gotta hit the hay) The available graded coins in F and better are drying up quickly! I rarely am able to buy a coin on ebay these days and really not a lot of new stuff showing up! >>
I have a bunch of Barber Halves for sale on eBay..... some of them new! >>
While you say new I still want to say fresh...as in new to the market! Nice original stuff just isn't out there right now. The 1894-S HCC sold a few days is a classic example...if it was a nice original coin it would have sold for double. Surprised it graded!
<< <i>Call me one of the unwashed, but that is a great 93-S.
That expression (reused above) is older than dirt (pun intended).
I know it was not meant in any ill way. Just an expression ... a better
term would have just been to delete the word "unwashed" as mentioned,
it leaves a negative connotation.
If I had the time, opportunity and finances, I would have have done
exactly what Darrell is accomplishing, a complete grading set in VF to AU.
Years ago, I mentioned ( I must have plagiarized someone smarter than I )
..." I never met a Barber I didn't like..."
As long as the rims are strong on both sides and some of Liberty is showing,
and the reverse has E.P.U. showing, then what's not to love.
My first set of Halves back in the mid 1960's was a VG 10 set. I had more fun
putting that raw set together than I think I ever had on any other set. Regardless
of finances. I had a friend who was my mentor ( he is in the coin retail business today )
and he and I would scour all of Ohio going to coin shops ... and occasionally to some
shows on weekends. ( How we maintained over a 3.0 GPA is amazing ).
Tastes mature, finances increase over time and the love you have for your first set
of Barber Halves never diminishes. Many move on to other series ( I certainly did )
but sooner or later, you find yourself back looking at that 1913 Half and studying the
Reverse, muttering...is that an impression of a removed mint mark ?
As David Hall keeps saying.... " Have fun with your coins ! " >>
I really like this post Mike! Lottsa passion and I also like that 93-S!
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>Hey I'm in with this nasty thing....................
I know you said that tongue in cheek, but it's worth noting what a special '93-S that is. Very tough indeed -- great coin. Not surprising it came from the early bird CRO message -- one day I'll subscribe to it, when I have spare money to spend on such things... right now it would be too painful!
Edit also to say, that on Tom Bush's site, he speaks of the particular toughness, of nice '93-S halves.
Thanks for the good words. And to others as well. I looked through this whole thread last night and enjoyed it. Hence, I just had to post my 1893-S half. I would have bought the coin no matter what date it was. But being a tough date made it all the better. My kinda coin and look. >>
Well, again then... well done!
The photo quality leaves something to be desired -- a combination of me shooting the mylar held in the air with one hand, while aiming with my phone's camera in the other. Background and type added in photoshop.
Doug
Also, love your "We buy opinions". How true, how true.
Mowgli - Interesting thoughts, you got people fired up.
Justin - I'll take your VF's over most AU's or mint states for desirability.
Darrell - eBay has done their best to drive sellers away, no wonder you don't see much there.
stman - Congrats on the wonderfull 93-S.
Mike - Those are 3 neat V Nicks. My appetite is whetted. Great look on the MS65.
Original - Perfect VG, thanks for posting.
Pics for this AM, another perfect VG that belongs to a friend here in northern Illinois, PC10:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
It's not just ebay...there are very few showing up at shows, and the few really nice coins auctioned by heritage bring very strong prices.
Vern.... Your friend has good tastes. That's as perfect a VG 10 as I have ever seen.
It fits right into the description I gave for what I like in a VG 10.
Thanks for sharing it.
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It's really a beautiful coin- thanks Darrell!!
Jeff - A good example of why it doesn't hurt to pay up for a tough coin that you like.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, now PC53:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I see that people have started discussing the news that Simpson is going to auction off his Sunnywood Morgan collection, but I haven't seen anyone mention that he's also selling off his Barber dime collection. Legend is selling the collection intact: 3.25 million with the 94S, 1.35 million without the 94S.
So, who here is ponying up for the collection?
I'm kind of disappointed that these aren't also being auctioned off. I usually focus on Barber halves, but may have been in interested in some of these. However, the entire collection in one lump payment is not feasible for me.
Cavalier -
Glad you could join us.
I had heard that the Simpson Morgan collection was going on the Market.
Had not heard about the Barber Dime collection. Wonder which 94-S is in
this set ? Possibly the most recent offering that Legend bought from DLRC
of last year. If memory serves me correctly, it was a Branch PR 64 CAM.
LOL, I would say this is perfect timing, as there is a collector whose coffers
are currently full after the sale of some high dollar sets.
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At 1.35 million without the 94-S, Legend must think that the whole is worth more (far more), than the sum of its parts.
Pics for this AM, a coin of mine that came up in a phone conversation last night with a fellow forum member.
One of my favorites, that I first bacame aware of here in the BST, PC64:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
You've shown that beauty before and every time I look at it I
just love the surface quality and luster. Top notch coin.
I was looking at my Quarter photo album this weekend and I
gazed on my old 13-S ( ex: ICG 58 / PCGS 55 ) and remembered
that the sinister claw and arrow feathers were very weak. Your 64
is a bit stronger; I guess I should do some digging and see what the
other higher grades ( XF40 - MS 67 ) look like.
I was so thrilled to locate an AU 58 (at that time) I paid no mind to
any striking deficiencies the coin may have had. I am sure our friend
Glen M is enjoying the coin. I will edit this to include the image once I
am off the iPad.
Nothing new to report. The CD with the V Nickel images is in the mail.
I should be posting by next weekend.
Today would have been my Mom's 93rd Birthday. Happy Birthday Ann !
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I'm anxious to see what you come up with in Chicago, I'm sure you'll have a few nice ones to look at.
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I have never dealt with them at a show before.
Thanks,
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<< <i>I have a question for those of you familiar with PCGS setups at shows, if I bring along my 1912d NGC 45 half to Chicago will PCGS at least give me an opinion whether it might cross or not?
I have never dealt with them at a show before.
Thanks, >>
In general, they wont give an opinion. Most of the people who take the consignments (if not all) aren't graders, and a lot of them don't even seem to like coins lol (ie, some being cute girls)
Occasionally, David Hall will man the table for a short time. He will give his opinion,
but his opinion means nothing (per se) as it's the graders who have the final say what
crosses.
You must be a member to submit. There are different levels of membership. If you will
only submit a couple of things per year, go with the least expensive membership.
Good luck. Don't be disappointed if the coin does not cross at the exact grade on the
NGC holder. I usually ask for "cross at any grade" for coins under MS.
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Or you can save you $$ to buy more coins by leaving it in the NGC plastic too ...
From my experience, crossing coins, is the height of frustration.. As collectors of Barber coinage, I have found the passionate collector base (primarily the people who frequent this thread) to not only be more accurate with the grading of the coins, they/we are also more consistent .. We collect these coins and handle them daily vs. the graders who need to be jacks of all trades (masters of none)
Unless you are selling (or doing a PCGS Reg. I suppose),there wouldn't be much of a need .. But of course, that is entirely up to you and your preferences are your own .. Just my 2 cents
Edit: When I type Davey, I can't help but think of the old Sunday morning cartoon, Davey & Goliath .. I used to wake up at 5am just to watch that show as a youngster ... Man that was eons ago
I guess your right, I bought the coin because I really liked the looks in hand, I did get hooked on the registry though and sure would have liked to see it in a PCGS holder. I like the coin too much to mess with it so I guess I will enjoy it just as it is.
Patches, I guess I wont have to worry about it, but you are probably right , they wouldn't be able to tell me one way or the other. I'm sure I can find a PCGS XF-45 1912D without much trouble.
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Doug
it's a coin I posted earlier:
I would be too afraid to crack it out because of the toning spot on the reverse, it might come back as damaged. I do agree it's best to enjoy this one as is, if it were a hard date to locate that would be different, there's no doubt I can find a nice PCGS XF45 1912D out there.
Thanks for the opinion,
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Dave - Thanks for reminding us what your 12-D looks like.
I see it in a low end AU holder. I would grade it borderline
AU 53 - but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it made
it into an AU 50 holder either.
Here are a couple of Barbers that hardly ever make it into this Thread.
Yes, the Reverse of the Pan Pac is the work of Geo. Morgan. The sticker was subjected to packing tape and it lifted off the Green Color.
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EDIT:
I spoke with Frank K. "Broadstruck" about the coin immediately below:
It is actually an Uncentered Broadstruck. Not 5% O/C.
Edit to add the last image until I get the CD:
I picked this up at an ANA a year and a half ago [ can't remember which one now ]
it belonged to a YN who wanted big numbers for it. I said for him to see Fred Weinberg
and ask him what its really worth ... the kid came back and {lied, actually} and said that
Fred didn't have a clue to its value. I laughed and made him an offer close to $200 { $185 ?? }
I would have paid his asking price of $500 if he had both halves...
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Mike - The Columbian and Pan-Pac are beauties. And does Broadstruck know you are beating his time? Really nice error V Nicks.
Pics for this AM, a coin I don't think I've posted here before, from Doug's Iowa collection, PC58:
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Enjoy it as is.
Doug
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although I have been collecting for many years I have very little experience with slabs. I did once have a pretty nice Franklin Half Registry set but I was just buying the registry points and not worrying too much about looks. I have started a Barber half registry set but this will be a lot slower ordeal and I will for sure buy the coins that appeal to me, I'm in no hurry.
I'm amazed at how spotted some of these coins become after being placed in the slab, I'm sure their not that way while being graded. I'm not sure if that is from being messed with, are just a natural problem that comes up with these silver coins. If your buying for the short run and reselling right away ,I guess it doesn't really matter, but I plan to keep the coins, so I want to for sure buy something I like
and will stay nice in the holder. I'll eventually catch on.
Thanks for the help guys,
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Pics for this AM, IMO, an unmessed with 45:
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Taking a bit of a collecting hiatus with my job change and move, but keeping my eyes on the next two rounds of Barber halves from the Gene Gardner set. Lots of great coins in his set. I have added just one coin to my mint state set in the past year to year and a half, the 1896 MS 66+ from the Connecticut museum auction. I miss the days when Dale Friend and Steve Duckor and I were all working together and "competing" for the gem coins. I suspect there are some other collectors out there, just not publicly posting. I still wonder what might be in the Pogue collection regarding Barber halves.
<< <i> unmessed with 45:
I need to add my image[s] of what I have/ had / and we'll talk about the worst struck date and Mint in the entire series.
Here's an XF 40 :
Here is another XF 40 - with the typically weak strike on the Upper Right of the Shield...
Here is the one I had in my better set - sold at Summer ANA with Heritage in 2011:
This is as good a strike as it gets as far as I can see.:
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He asked I go slowly...
Quite a few of my Nickels came out of my Grandfather's pocket change.
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Just beautiful ... At the end of the day, it is all about eye appeal
1884 - ex: Broadstruck Collection
1885 - ex: Dan Flood Collection - Piperman55 [ founder of 1st Barber Mega Thread ]
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DrPete - Is it certain all of the Pogue's collections are coming to market?
Scott - Absolutely agree.
Mike - Those are some wonderful V nicks. And your grandfather's pocket change makes some even more special.
Pics for this AM, formerly in Scott's collection, PC55:
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I haven't seen an off center Barber Half- does anyone have one they can post a picture of?
Broadstruck has an O/C and a Broadstruck ... and if memory serves me,
He also has a flip over double struck Half as well. I have images somewhere,
but would prefer he post his images ... Afterall, they are his coins.
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Three more V Nickels for the night owls:
1886: ex: PCI AU 53 - Found in Ben King's shop in 1994 - Naples, FL
1887: Found in a coin show in Boston - 1990 - obviously, raw:
1887 - Duplicate - Heritage Auction - 2010
1888 - Coin World ad - 1994
Ok - that's all for this evening.
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How are die cracks looked at by other collectors, do you like them, are do you think they take from the beauty and desirability of the piece.
Keep the pics coming Mike, I really do enjoy them.
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Mike - More great V nicks.
Dave - I like die cracks as well, adds character to the coin.
Pics for this AM, as nice as an AU58 can get IMO, from Scott's collection:
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in their Whitman Bookshelf Album. Nickel is one of the hardest (if not the hardest ) metal we strike
coins out of. More die cracks can be located on them, than other metals. They do make the coin a tad more
interesting. They are not worth a premium unless it's something out of this world.
Vern, Thanks as well. Question, on Scott's 1900-S Half ( obviously an AU 58 ) - it looks very similar to another
I saw yesterday on eBay. Is it the same coin ? I believe it was Scott's listing as well. Then again, knowing Scott,
he must have every AU 58 that wasn't buried in someone else's collection. The man has got duplicates !!
I have picked up - via the BST - a variety for my Dime set. I swore I wouldn't get any varieties, but I just couldn't
help myself... A 1905-O Micro O in PCGS 50. It seems the young man and I conversed approx. 10 years ago and
we discussed Barbers in general. He sold most of his coins to help pay for college. He recently started an
antique & architectural fixture business and needs funding to help it get off the ground.
So, I'm pretty pumped about that.
Another collector and I are in negotiations regarding a couple of upgrades for the a dime set as well. I have a few
XF 40-45's and I want everything in AU. ( I should have known better from the start of this latest set, I really only
like AU Dimes ). A good friend of mine also seems to be ogling the same coins. So, the seller is playing King Solomon
and dividing the coins among us. My friend already has these dates in AU 55-58 but wants duplicates. ARG !!
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I'll answer your question for you = it is the same coin on eBay (it is a 1900-O Half; slightly tougher than the S
And .. it is the last of my slabbed Barber halves - all others have been relocated in new collections
Scott... I didn't realize that you were actually down to your last
AU Barber Half. You worked so hard to assemble a beautiful set,
it seems a shame to see it disappear. Glad all the coins found their
way into other collections... and not just dealers' stock !!
I realize how expensive that coin is, and you must be in it for an
arm and a leg. Regardless, nothing wrong with keeping a special
coin from your previous collection. I am glad I kept a few from all
the sets I have assembled. All of which are part of my current set.
Vern - you have done so much for your friends, by imaging their
coins and posting them, you are to be commended. You have been
keeping the Barber Mega Thread alive, when I have not been able to.
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