I love the look of rhedden's '73 Half; a great coin!
I sent 25 Seated Half Dimes in NGC holders in February; they should be grading soon. It will be interesting to see how many cross. Once I receive them I'll photograph them and start posting. I think the Half Dime is the Rodney Dangerfield of US coins- it doesn't get any respect.....
Ron - Wonderful newp. Just the right look IMO. I see your point on the restoration of the 73-CC quarter, but when a dealer sells it and then refuses to deal with its history when presented with ironclad proof, it's not so good for the hobby.
Jeff - Good luck with the crosses. I look forward to the pics.
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Love the look of your 73 quarter, wish I'd seen it first.
There hasn't been a thread concerning my previous 73-CC quarter. but all my close collecting friends and dealers,
as well as PCGS and CAC, know the details. The coin sold twice at auction in the last ten years in a details grade
NGC holder with cleaning designated. I believe both times it sold between 7-9K. I purchased the doctored coin from a large
dealer in a PCGS VF25 CAC holder for 27K. A month or two after my purchase I was researching 73-CC quarters
in the auction archive function of PCGS and noticed my supposedly wholesome coin in it's previous state. After my
initial shock and disappointment, I contacted the dealer for some type of resolution. When the dealer was unwilling
to make it right I enlisted the assistance of Gerry Fortin. Gerry got JA at CAC and David Hall at PCGS involved and I was
made whole on the coin. This experience was the impetus behind Gerry's Gobrecht Journal article in issue #125,
"Using Numismatic Provenance as Buyer Protection." I've come away from this experience amazed and sickened
by how deceptive coin doctoring can be. But I've also had my faith in our great hobby restored by Gerry, John, and
David Hall for their integrity and willingness to do the right thing.
Wow, that is a rather shocking story about the 1873-cc quarter. When I said the doctoring might actually be good for the hobby, I did not picture an $8k coin turning into a $27k coin with no disclosure. The problem there is that the old pictures still exist in the auction archive, which could cost the new owner dearly at some future point when the doctoring is discovered by someone else. I do think the coin's restoration has been expertly done, and you could not ask for much better, however.
I have found a couple of egregious examples of doctoring of Seated quarters the past year using the same method. In one case, an MS coin was utterly ruined by dipping, but the asking price increased anyway. In the other case, a VF details /cleaned coin went into a top tier TPG holder as XF45, and the price doubled. It was doctored so much as to be barely recognizable, like your 1873-cc, but it did not look as nice as your 1873-cc, and it wasn't an XF45 either. I cannot ID these coins on a forum because both are in the current inventory of dealers. Just be aware that any purchase of rare date Seated material has to be thoroughly researched, even if it's slabbed.
This is the first of five Wayte Raymond holders containing the W. Earl Spies Business Strike Collection of Seated Dollars. Spies also had a complete set of Proof Seated Dollars - he collected both!
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Is there a holed one of those extant?
Voyageur - Neat coin.
Holed - Somewhere, I bet.
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NOT mine.
In case TDN hasn't seen this one.
Holed - Looks like it was minted this week.
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It does, roll fresh. I don't think the Chinese can make on this nice.
Holed - But I bet they're working on it.
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An XF 1875-CC quarter, before and after cleaning.
Doug
An 1873-CC quarter, before and after doctoring.
Doug
Looks like a coin struck from a cancelled die.
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Doug - Pretty amazing before and afters. The 73-CC after looks awfully good. Somebody knew their stuff.
Voyageur - I agree with Mike, a cancelled die.
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73-CC is scary good. I think it would fool almost everyone
Now that I'm back where my camera resides, there'll be lots of new pictures. For this AM, newp (at least circa 2017) into Paesan's Stash, PC30:
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I've had this for several years but just got around to having it photographed.
Joseph J. Singleton - First Superintendent of the U.S. Branch Mint in Dahlonega Georgia
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Just crossed this tough little Dime.....
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JJS - Exceptional is the word, thanks for posting your 59-O. What eye appeal.
Mike - Nice crusty original.
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One of my favorites in my quarter set AU58 CAC.
Doug
Doug - Your 75-S is the perfect 58 look. What a beauty in hand.
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NewP from David Kahn today. PCGS AU50 / green CAC.
Looking at the 1873-cc posted above, dare I say that coin doctoring is sometimes good for the hobby? Wow, what a nice restoration job!
I love the look of rhedden's '73 Half; a great coin!
I sent 25 Seated Half Dimes in NGC holders in February; they should be grading soon. It will be interesting to see how many cross. Once I receive them I'll photograph them and start posting. I think the Half Dime is the Rodney Dangerfield of US coins- it doesn't get any respect.....
Ron - Wonderful newp. Just the right look IMO. I see your point on the restoration of the 73-CC quarter, but when a dealer sells it and then refuses to deal with its history when presented with ironclad proof, it's not so good for the hobby.
Jeff - Good luck with the crosses. I look forward to the pics.
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1877-CC PCGS MS-65+ CAC
Where the Buy It Now button on the 1877-cc half? Great eye appeal there.
I did not know the background story on the 1873-cc quarter posted by Lucanus. Is it discussed in another thread somewhere?
Love the 77-CC Half !! What a sweet coin !!
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I just cant get over how amazingly good they did on the 73-cc quarter, that is just flat out scary!
Ron,
Love the look of your 73 quarter, wish I'd seen it first.
There hasn't been a thread concerning my previous 73-CC quarter. but all my close collecting friends and dealers,
as well as PCGS and CAC, know the details. The coin sold twice at auction in the last ten years in a details grade
NGC holder with cleaning designated. I believe both times it sold between 7-9K. I purchased the doctored coin from a large
dealer in a PCGS VF25 CAC holder for 27K. A month or two after my purchase I was researching 73-CC quarters
in the auction archive function of PCGS and noticed my supposedly wholesome coin in it's previous state. After my
initial shock and disappointment, I contacted the dealer for some type of resolution. When the dealer was unwilling
to make it right I enlisted the assistance of Gerry Fortin. Gerry got JA at CAC and David Hall at PCGS involved and I was
made whole on the coin. This experience was the impetus behind Gerry's Gobrecht Journal article in issue #125,
"Using Numismatic Provenance as Buyer Protection." I've come away from this experience amazed and sickened
by how deceptive coin doctoring can be. But I've also had my faith in our great hobby restored by Gerry, John, and
David Hall for their integrity and willingness to do the right thing.
Doug
Wow, that is a rather shocking story about the 1873-cc quarter. When I said the doctoring might actually be good for the hobby, I did not picture an $8k coin turning into a $27k coin with no disclosure. The problem there is that the old pictures still exist in the auction archive, which could cost the new owner dearly at some future point when the doctoring is discovered by someone else. I do think the coin's restoration has been expertly done, and you could not ask for much better, however.
I have found a couple of egregious examples of doctoring of Seated quarters the past year using the same method. In one case, an MS coin was utterly ruined by dipping, but the asking price increased anyway. In the other case, a VF details /cleaned coin went into a top tier TPG holder as XF45, and the price doubled. It was doctored so much as to be barely recognizable, like your 1873-cc, but it did not look as nice as your 1873-cc, and it wasn't an XF45 either. I cannot ID these coins on a forum because both are in the current inventory of dealers. Just be aware that any purchase of rare date Seated material has to be thoroughly researched, even if it's slabbed.
Toningintheblood - What a beauty, thanks for posting it here.
Boyer - To each their own, what a great hobby..
Jim - The 73-CC is amazing in hand. It makes me question many a coin.
Doug - Kudos to Gerry Fortin, IMO a dealer everyone should consider doing business with. I've started since this situation came up.
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David - Great looking original dollars. Thanks for posting them here. (Hope there are more to follow).
UHR - Your pic(s) didn't come through.
Toning - Another stellar, eye-appealing coin.
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Nice group... I find that if you have an obviously circulated LS half, it's hard to get more than XF 45 out of PCGS.
UHR - Nice crusty half.
Elmhurst - You could be right, the grading gods work in mysterious ways.
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