I sent 24 of my Seated Half Dimes in NGC holders to our hosts for crossover at the same grade. Nineteen of them crossed; I'll likely just sell the ones that didn't make it and look for nicer replacements. Here's one that did cross, an 1838 in a PC 53 holder:
I submitted the pricier coins on the Secure Plus tier, so the TrueView photo was included. This coin is on it's way back to me.
Love the earlier Seated material ( w/ tilted shield ) .... Nice stuff.
Did you get a break on the cross overs ? A couple of months ago,
PCGS did not charge for a cross over submission unless it actually
crossed over !
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It's probably been 3-4 months since I've checked in. It will be fun to go back and see the old posts and pix. Thanks, Vern, for throwing my pix up on occasion.
This is listed on the holder as a retained die break. Unfortunately, I'm unable to capture the the close up at a decent angle to show the height of the retained break.
@JeffMTampa said:
I like that retained die break- VERY cool!!
Here' s another one of my Seated Half Dime crossovers from NGC, a 1843 now in a PC AU 58 holder:
This one has a die clash on the reverse under "STATES OF".
This is a nice example of what I called V-9ub in my recent image study of 1843 die varieties (there is a draft on the Liberty Seated Collectors Club Forum).
The variety is also recognized as Neil-4 and the clash was noted by Ahwash (1975). "u" in V-9ub stands for "Unofficial"; it should get an official V number at some point.
With the right lighting, you might be able to see the remnants of a repunched 1 below the 1 in your date. "b" means it is a late die state of this marriage, with the repunched 1 becoming very hard to see.
You might also be able to see file marks left of stars 5-6 and right of star 9. These are also easier to see in earlier die states.
There are similar die clashes on 2 other 1843 die marriages; they intersect STATES OF in slightly different locations, probably based on slight rotations in die alignment. This clash is the heaviest and most obvious of the 3.
@JeffMTampa said:
Here's another Half Dime crossed from a NCG holder, a 1849 now in a PC XF 40 holder:
I believe this is a nice example of the V-5.
Obverse is a late die state of the die used on the V-4 "9 over near 6".
I believe I can see traces of the 6 to the right of the 9.
Reverse has a diagnostic die crack from the dentils to the right stem, which is visible in your excellent photo.
@JeffMTampa said:
yosclimber- thanks for sharing your knowledge again, you really seem to have an amazing knowledge of these half dimes.
Thanks. It's all driven by folks like you sharing such great images (and web forums like this which make it possible), and by @MrHalfDime, who has been sharing his knowledge of half dimes for decades (my imitation as flattery). It's just luck that I have learned a lot about 1843 and 1849 - I chose them somewhat at random and did image studies where I downloaded all the auction images since 2010 and tried to attribute each one to V- die pairs.
Your very nice 1851 is an example of V-1A, because the date touches the base, and because of the reverse cracks at UN and ESOF.
@barberkeys said:
Jeff - Good job on selecting the right NGC coins.
Vern- I purchased almost all of my half dimes raw and had them graded originally by NGC. There were a handful of problem coins, but I've been fortunate with the graders.
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I sent 24 of my Seated Half Dimes in NGC holders to our hosts for crossover at the same grade. Nineteen of them crossed; I'll likely just sell the ones that didn't make it and look for nicer replacements. Here's one that did cross, an 1838 in a PC 53 holder:
I submitted the pricier coins on the Secure Plus tier, so the TrueView photo was included. This coin is on it's way back to me.
Love the earlier Seated material ( w/ tilted shield ) .... Nice stuff.
Did you get a break on the cross overs ? A couple of months ago,
PCGS did not charge for a cross over submission unless it actually
crossed over !
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Coin collecting is not a hobby, it's an obsession !
New Barber Purchases
Coinsponge - Neat "potty" coin. Thanks for posting.
Jeff - Congratulations on the stellar crossover rate. Is CAC paying attention?
Voyageur - Really nice looking dime. Looks every bit of a 64.
Pics for this AM, newp into Milo's collection, PC40:
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Here's another Seated Half Dime that just came back from our hosts as a PC AU 58:
It came out of a NGC AU 58 holder, but I found it raw a few years back.
Jeff - There's a lot of gold in your half dime.
Voyageur - Neat coins. The mint must have been using the dies to the bitter end.
Pics for this PM, from Doug's collection, PC55:
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It's probably been 3-4 months since I've checked in. It will be fun to go back and see the old posts and pix. Thanks, Vern, for throwing my pix up on occasion.
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Paesan - It's my pleasure.
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UHR - Nice ones, thanks for posting.
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Brian G - Absolutely stunning, thanks for posting.
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This is listed on the holder as a retained die break. Unfortunately, I'm unable to capture the the close up at a decent angle to show the height of the retained break.
I like that retained die break- VERY cool!!
Here' s another one of my Seated Half Dime crossovers from NGC, a 1843 now in a PC AU 58 holder:
This one has a die clash on the reverse under "STATES OF".
Here's a 1847 Half Dime that crossed from a NGC XF 45 to a PCGS XF 45:
This is a nice example of what I called V-9ub in my recent image study of 1843 die varieties (there is a draft on the Liberty Seated Collectors Club Forum).
The variety is also recognized as Neil-4 and the clash was noted by Ahwash (1975). "u" in V-9ub stands for "Unofficial"; it should get an official V number at some point.
With the right lighting, you might be able to see the remnants of a repunched 1 below the 1 in your date. "b" means it is a late die state of this marriage, with the repunched 1 becoming very hard to see.
You might also be able to see file marks left of stars 5-6 and right of star 9. These are also easier to see in earlier die states.
There are similar die clashes on 2 other 1843 die marriages; they intersect STATES OF in slightly different locations, probably based on slight rotations in die alignment. This clash is the heaviest and most obvious of the 3.
Brian G.
I would love to see a close up of the retained cud and die breaks if available.
Lots of really neat coins posted the past couple of days. Thanks to all.
Pics for this AM, from Doug's Iowa Collection, PC35:
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Yosclimber- That's a lot of great information on my 1843 Half Dime; I need to look at the coin a lot closer.
Here's another Half Dime crossed from a NCG holder, a 1849 now in a PC XF 40 holder:
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I believe this is a nice example of the V-5.
Obverse is a late die state of the die used on the V-4 "9 over near 6".
I believe I can see traces of the 6 to the right of the 9.
Reverse has a diagnostic die crack from the dentils to the right stem, which is visible in your excellent photo.
yosclimber- thanks for sharing your knowledge again, you really seem to have an amazing knowledge of these half dimes.
Here's another one of my recent crossovers, an 1851now in a PCGS AU 55 holder:
Thanks. It's all driven by folks like you sharing such great images (and web forums like this which make it possible), and by @MrHalfDime, who has been sharing his knowledge of half dimes for decades (my imitation as flattery). It's just luck that I have learned a lot about 1843 and 1849 - I chose them somewhat at random and did image studies where I downloaded all the auction images since 2010 and tried to attribute each one to V- die pairs.
Your very nice 1851 is an example of V-1A, because the date touches the base, and because of the reverse cracks at UN and ESOF.
Another recent crossover from a NGC holder, a 1852 Seated Half Dime now in a PCGS AU 53 holder:
This one just arrived from CRO. Any time I can get a coin like this for PR64 money, I will take it.
Ron - Congratulations on your new 1878, stellar eye appeal.
Pics for this PM, from Doug's collection, PC45:
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Here's another Seated Half Dime recently crossed over from a NGC holder, a 1852 O now in a PC AU 53 holder:
Jeff - Good job on selecting the right NGC coins.
Pics for this AM, newp into Milo's collection, PC40:
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Vern- I purchased almost all of my half dimes raw and had them graded originally by NGC. There were a handful of problem coins, but I've been fortunate with the graders.
Pics for this AM, from Doug's Iowa Collection, PC35:
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Voyageur - Great looking dime, besides.
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