Just scored this one to upgrade my PC55... this new one is from Dick Osburn's personal collection, from the 2014 Heritage ANA sale. The deal was too good, so I couldn't pass up the upgrade opportunity...
1869-S is a difficult Seated half to find nice. Good job getting that one! I bought the 1852-P out of the Osburn collection. It's a strictly graded NGC MS63 with nice eye appeal. I bought it in the secondary market from a dealer who won it in the sale. Since that time, it's increased in value dramatically, so I made out well on that one.
Let's get the thread back on track. Special thanks to Mike Printz for selling this one to me.
Slabbed by our hosts as an XF45:
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
New purchase from Gerry Fortin today (on hold). PCGS F12. Once this arrives, I will FINALLY have a dirty, original 1849-O quarter in a PCGS holder, which replaces a scratched VG that I have had for the last 9 years. It's not close to the drop-dead awesome XF from Doug's Iowa collection shown on the previous page, but it fits the bill for my set. I am trying to acquire all of the scarce and rare dates in crusty, unmolested condition, even if it means dropping down a bit in grade. Most 1849-O quarters in VF to AU grades are dipped, washed, too bright, retoned, etc. because they have been considered a key date for so many years, and there has always been a temptation to mess with them.
This one's a common date quarter, but I thought it had a really attractive appearance. Sort of a warm, "well-aged" patina that is a little crusty and colorful at the same time.
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
I grade that 1870-cc VG08. Nice acquisition! People who see this coin and do not collect Seated quarters might not know how hard it is to find this coin in ANY grade without damage or cleaning. I would estimate the population of 1870-cc Seated quarters at 80 to 100 pieces. I know there are at least 73 of them around, as I have 73 photos of them on my hard drive. (It was 72 yesterday-thanks for posting! ) 1871-cc and 1873-CC No Arrows are the two Seated quarter date/mm combinations that are scarcer than 1870-cc. I'm not counting varieties like 1840-O WD Large O.
Here's a common date half dollar for those of you waking up from your Sunday afternoon nap...
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
Please tell me mine isn't some rare expensive half dime. I sold it in a lot of 12 coins on eBay and got robbed and paid 90$ for the whole lot from what I remember
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
Man those 50's and 60's S-mint quarters are a bear. What a great, original piece that 61-S is!
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
Here's an EXTREMELY rare variety: the 1843 "Shattered Reverse" Seated Quarter. Briggs mentions it in his book, but he has no photo to go with it. Not sure how many there are of these out there, but I've only ever seen one other example. Mine is slabbed by our hosts as an XF40:
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
@rhedden said:
Couple of new purchases from David Kahn, both PCGS XF40.
Great mid-grade pieces, Ron.
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
Now I know why it's such a challenge to find nice looking circulated quarters. Doug and Ron and Lenny appear to be hoarding all of them.
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
@barberkeys said:
Pics for this PM, from Doug's collection, PC!12:
Doug may want to crack that coin, acetone it and resubmit for grading. There is some untreated PVC at the bottom margin of the middle arrowhead and just above the period after "DOL" on the reverse. It will get worse and spread if untreated. Also, the coin looks F15 to me so he would probably get an upgrade out of this as well.
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
I'm quite sure the 1864-S would upgrade to F-15 as well. I don't know if the green specks are PVC that would come off with acetone for sure, though. I usually see PVC on the high points where the coin contacted the PVC flip. These little green spots are sometimes not PVC. If acetone is in the works, I might put a little on a cotton swab and just touch it to the green spots to see if it's removable.
In my experience, what I've seen happen is that the high points of a coin tend to get treated by the cotton swab method while the fields and crevices aren't treated as thoroughly. The "treater" thinks he's gotten rid of all of the visible PVC, but he misses a tiny, virtually invisible amount in the protected areas that, over time, starts to grow after the coin has been re-slabbed. I've seen green corrosion areas on copper that weren't PVC, but I don't know if I've ever seen green corrosion areas on silver that were anything except PVC.
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
Also, with no slight against Doug and Lenny who both have great Seated Quarter collections on the PCGS Registry, everyone needs to go check out Ron's set listed on Gerry Fortin's website. Just a ton of eye candy and a truly remarkable accomplishment. Don't miss out just because it isn't listed here on our host's website.
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
You could be right about missed PVC spots. I was just think about a couple of half dimes I have, which had little green spots that did not respond to acetone. With any luck, the spots on the 1864-s will come right off on the cotton swab.
Thanks for the mention on my set. I more proud of the work it took to get all those photos up there than I am of the coins themselves!
I know what you mean, Ron. Taking all those photos can be a chore, especially if one is attempting to get some uniformity to the images. 100+ coins, both sides, plus cropping, etc. Makes for a very, VERY long and tedious day.
My current coin collecting interests are: (1) British coins 1838-1970 in XF-AU-UNC, (2) silver type coins in XF-AU with that classic medium gray coloration and exceptional eye appeal.
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(above image) 1840 10C F-103 "chin whiskers" R3 according to Fortin (above image)
http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1840nd_103page.htm
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Just scored this one to upgrade my PC55... this new one is from Dick Osburn's personal collection, from the 2014 Heritage ANA sale. The deal was too good, so I couldn't pass up the upgrade opportunity...
1869-S is a difficult Seated half to find nice. Good job getting that one! I bought the 1852-P out of the Osburn collection. It's a strictly graded NGC MS63 with nice eye appeal. I bought it in the secondary market from a dealer who won it in the sale. Since that time, it's increased in value dramatically, so I made out well on that one.
PCGS XF45 (blue label holder)
PCGS VF25
Pcgs AU53
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No posts in over three days? Unacceptable!
Let's get the thread back on track. Special thanks to Mike Printz for selling this one to me.
Slabbed by our hosts as an XF45:
New purchase from Gerry Fortin today (on hold). PCGS F12. Once this arrives, I will FINALLY have a dirty, original 1849-O quarter in a PCGS holder, which replaces a scratched VG that I have had for the last 9 years. It's not close to the drop-dead awesome XF from Doug's Iowa collection shown on the previous page, but it fits the bill for my set. I am trying to acquire all of the scarce and rare dates in crusty, unmolested condition, even if it means dropping down a bit in grade. Most 1849-O quarters in VF to AU grades are dipped, washed, too bright, retoned, etc. because they have been considered a key date for so many years, and there has always been a temptation to mess with them.
Ron, congrats on your new 49-O quarter. Such a tough date!
Doug
MS65+ CAC
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@tdiaz1979
Beautiful photo presentation
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Bad transactions with : nobody to date
Lot's of beauties posted here in the past few days.
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
This one's a common date quarter, but I thought it had a really attractive appearance. Sort of a warm, "well-aged" patina that is a little crusty and colorful at the same time.
Cary - Wonderful eye appeal.
Pics for this PM, just crossed into Paesan's Stash, PC12:
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Pics for this AM, this toughie journeyed 200 miles east to become my type coin (thanks Doug), PC6:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
I grade that 1870-cc VG08. Nice acquisition! People who see this coin and do not collect Seated quarters might not know how hard it is to find this coin in ANY grade without damage or cleaning. I would estimate the population of 1870-cc Seated quarters at 80 to 100 pieces. I know there are at least 73 of them around, as I have 73 photos of them on my hard drive. (It was 72 yesterday-thanks for posting!
) 1871-cc and 1873-CC No Arrows are the two Seated quarter date/mm combinations that are scarcer than 1870-cc. I'm not counting varieties like 1840-O WD Large O.
Here's a common date half dollar for those of you waking up from your Sunday afternoon nap...
Nice looking 70-cc for the grade
Ron - 73! Nice reference library.
Cary - Thanks for the eye opener.
Jim - I agree. Not quite in your grade range, but still rare enough.
Zoins - What a beauty, thanks for posting.
Pics for this PM, from Doug's collection, PC35:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
the toning on the reverse is BEAUTIFUL!
Pics for this PM, from Doug's collection, PC30:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this PM, from Doug's collection, PC45:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this PM, my newp, PC45:
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Very nice Vern!
Doug
Please tell me mine isn't some rare expensive half dime. I sold it in a lot of 12 coins on eBay and got robbed and paid 90$ for the whole lot from what I remember
Slabbed by our friends ATS:
Watchbelieve - I don't think you have to worry about your half dime .
Cary - Good looking half.
Pics for this AM, from Doug's collection, PC30:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Man those 50's and 60's S-mint quarters are a bear. What a great, original piece that 61-S is!
Cary - Couldn't agree more. Doug's has his collection in the registry as the Iowa Collection.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC45:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this PM, from Doug's collection, PC35:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC25:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Here's an EXTREMELY rare variety: the 1843 "Shattered Reverse" Seated Quarter. Briggs mentions it in his book, but he has no photo to go with it. Not sure how many there are of these out there, but I've only ever seen one other example. Mine is slabbed by our hosts as an XF40:
Cary - Nice find, good looking qtr.
Pics for this PM, from Paesan's Stash, PC25:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Lafayette Grading Set
Couple of new purchases from David Kahn, both PCGS XF40.
Great mid-grade pieces, Ron.
pocketpiece - Our friend Holed will be jealous.
Ron - Two beauties, congratulations.
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this AM, from Doug's collection, PC53:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Now I know why it's such a challenge to find nice looking circulated quarters. Doug and Ron and Lenny appear to be hoarding all of them.
Cary - They certainly have their share.
Pics for this AM, from Paesan's Stash, PC25:
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It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Pics for this PM, from Doug's collection, PC!12:
l
It's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got.
Doug may want to crack that coin, acetone it and resubmit for grading. There is some untreated PVC at the bottom margin of the middle arrowhead and just above the period after "DOL" on the reverse. It will get worse and spread if untreated. Also, the coin looks F15 to me so he would probably get an upgrade out of this as well.
I'm quite sure the 1864-S would upgrade to F-15 as well. I don't know if the green specks are PVC that would come off with acetone for sure, though. I usually see PVC on the high points where the coin contacted the PVC flip. These little green spots are sometimes not PVC. If acetone is in the works, I might put a little on a cotton swab and just touch it to the green spots to see if it's removable.
In my experience, what I've seen happen is that the high points of a coin tend to get treated by the cotton swab method while the fields and crevices aren't treated as thoroughly. The "treater" thinks he's gotten rid of all of the visible PVC, but he misses a tiny, virtually invisible amount in the protected areas that, over time, starts to grow after the coin has been re-slabbed. I've seen green corrosion areas on copper that weren't PVC, but I don't know if I've ever seen green corrosion areas on silver that were anything except PVC.
Also, with no slight against Doug and Lenny who both have great Seated Quarter collections on the PCGS Registry, everyone needs to go check out Ron's set listed on Gerry Fortin's website. Just a ton of eye candy and a truly remarkable accomplishment. Don't miss out just because it isn't listed here on our host's website.
You could be right about missed PVC spots. I was just think about a couple of half dimes I have, which had little green spots that did not respond to acetone. With any luck, the spots on the 1864-s will come right off on the cotton swab.
Thanks for the mention on my set. I more proud of the work it took to get all those photos up there than I am of the coins themselves!
I know what you mean, Ron. Taking all those photos can be a chore, especially if one is attempting to get some uniformity to the images. 100+ coins, both sides, plus cropping, etc. Makes for a very, VERY long and tedious day.