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  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...> @skier07 said:

    @Barberian said:

    @Catbert said:
    @Barberian has been on a roll! Well done!

    Have you seen my new Trade dollar? This is a GFRC photo, so I'm not sure exactly what it's going to look like. I trust @GotTheBug's eye, GerryF, and CAC on this one.

    Congrats! That looks like it’s going to be a great coin. Unfortunately GFRC has some of the worst photos in the industry so you never know what you’re getting.

    In this case, Gerry's photo is the best photo I could find for this coin, though CRO may have photos of it from a previous sale. The coin has a golden tan/loden greenish toning with hardly a mark on the surfaces. It's a gem for the grade; a Gerry BUY IT NOW coin. LOL!

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @skier07 said:

    @Barberian said:

    @Catbert said:
    @Barberian has been on a roll! Well done!

    Have you seen my new Trade dollar? This is a GFRC photo, so I'm not sure exactly what it's going to look like. I trust @GotTheBug's eye, GerryF, and CAC on this one.

    Congrats! That looks like it’s going to be a great coin. Unfortunately GFRC has some of the worst photos in the industry so you never know what you’re getting.

    While GFRC's photos are relatively small relative to say TrueViews (what was once the best),
    he takes considerable time and effort to adjust the colors to what they look like in hand.
    So they are superior to past and present TrueViews in that regard.
    I agree larger photos in addition to the color match would be nice.

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the year/mint/denomination of the smoking Liberty Seated variety? I saw one once but completely forgot what is actually was.

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Aspie_Rocco said:
    What is the year/mint/denomination of the smoking Liberty Seated variety? I saw one once but completely forgot what is actually was.

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:

    @skier07 said:

    @Barberian said:

    @Catbert said:
    @Barberian has been on a roll! Well done!

    Have you seen my new Trade dollar? This is a GFRC photo, so I'm not sure exactly what it's going to look like. I trust @GotTheBug's eye, GerryF, and CAC on this one.

    Congrats! That looks like it’s going to be a great coin. Unfortunately GFRC has some of the worst photos in the industry so you never know what you’re getting.

    While GFRC's photos are relatively small relative to say TrueViews (what was once the best),
    he takes considerable time and effort to adjust the colors to what they look like in hand.
    So they are superior to past and present TrueViews in that regard.
    I agree larger photos in addition to the color match would be nice.

    Gerry's photo above is a very good match for the coin in-hand. However, this coin would benefit greatly from a direct light photo as well to show the considerable change when viewing the coin directly. The obverse changes from dark blue to a light rose-amber tone with a strong cameo effect. Gerry mentions this Jekyll Hyde toning change in his blog and the inquiries he had about it.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 16, 2025 1:50PM

    @yosclimber said:

    @skier07 said:

    @Barberian said:

    @Catbert said:
    @Barberian has been on a roll! Well done!

    Have you seen my new Trade dollar? This is a GFRC photo, so I'm not sure exactly what it's going to look like. I trust @GotTheBug's eye, GerryF, and CAC on this one.

    Congrats! That looks like it’s going to be a great coin. Unfortunately GFRC has some of the worst photos in the industry so you never know what you’re getting.

    While GFRC's photos are relatively small relative to say TrueViews (what was once the best),
    he takes considerable time and effort to adjust the colors to what they look like in hand.
    So they are superior to past and present TrueViews in that regard.
    I agree larger photos in addition to the color match would be nice.

    Oh man, don't get me started. No matter how much time he invests, the picture output is just terrible. I can back up my opinion with many examples, but won't do so here.

    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 17, 2025 1:30PM

    @skier07 said:


    That is a really nice 46 medium date.
    I was just looking at my VF30 1846 medium date with nice, original-looking toning but with a bunch of rim dings, trying to decide whether I should submit it for grading or just buy another example free of rim dings.

    I didn't have a scan for this coin, so that alone has convinced me to get rid of it. It was too ugly to scan until now. I don't need it for a registry because a tall date will fill the slot and my tall date is an attractive, circulated cameo VF25 (shown below). I just don't want to spend money to have it graded and slabbed if I don't like it.

    That brings up another topic...why don't the registries include major varieties like the different date and lettering sizes for 1842 and date sizes for 1846? They are major changes yet are not included in their defined sets.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2025 8:47AM

    Warning! - this coin may be hazardous to numismatists eyes!!!

    Edited because I've already shown what turned out to be a glamor shot of this coin. It's fair uglier than depicted above and has been edited to capture its, ahem, unique qualities.

    1874-S WB-5 (R7)

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2025 2:34AM

    @edwardjulio said:
    VG-10/CAC:D

    @edwardjulio Your 1843 is an uber-gem compared to my brightly polished washer. My WB-5 has gone through the spin cycle a few times.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is a beautiful and elegant circulation cameo. I really like that look!

    @Cladiator said:
    Another hole filled...

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cladiator said:
    Another hole filled...

    Tough coin, very nice!

  • JRGeyerJRGeyer Posts: 150 ✭✭✭

    The coin below is in an active Great Collections Auction.

    I'm not going mad, right? This coin is clearly mislabeled by PCGS? Looks like maybe a V-5?

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,557 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is a V-5?
    The grade looks fine to me

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 10, 2025 11:58PM

    Correct, it is not a Large Date.

    It is a Medium Date.


    The Large Date overlaps the base so much that the base is visible within the upper loops of both 8s.
    Non-expert dealers and ebayers often write Large Date on the holder, hoping to get a better price.
    More unusual to see it wrong on a PCGS slab.

    On the PCGS CoinFacts 1848 Large Date page, 9 coins are shown. 1 is a Medium Date.
    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1848-h10c-large-date/images/4339

    On the PCGS CoinFacts 1848 Medium Date page, 13 coins are shown. All 13 are Medium Dates.
    https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1848-h10c-medium-date/images/4338

    I agree with your attribution that it is a V-5.
    Date position and shallow date are correct for V-5.
    And it also has the reverse light crack through E1.

    What is a V-5?

    Valentine-5. Valentine's book numbered the different die pairs he identified for each date and mint mark.
    For 1848 he identified 7 die pairs.
    The Large Date is V-1.


    Currently there is another die pair known - the V-9 with "Far Right Date".

  • SilverstackerSilverstacker Posts: 68 ✭✭✭

    Guys those are some Lovely seateds. I'm happy for all of you.

    One day I hope to have a strong example.

  • TwobitcollectorTwobitcollector Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • fastfreddiefastfreddie Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Different graders, different day. Solid specimen for a rare date. Full Liberty so to me it's 10-12.

    It is not that life is short, but that you are dead for so very long.
  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fastfreddie said:
    Here's another super choice for the grade example. Has some reflective glimmer deep in the crevices evident in hand. I can't stop looking at it.

    VF25 CAC

    John,

    I'm glad you're enjoying your new acquisitions!

    Doug

  • Morgan WhiteMorgan White Posts: 8,559 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @fastfreddie said:
    Very excited to get this hole filed with such a choice specimen courtesy of an expert Liberty Seated Quarter set builder.

    F12 CAC


    This coin is a 20 on the obverse and pretty close to that on the reverse. Should be a 20 overall considering the originality. Awesome coin.

  • Aspie_RoccoAspie_Rocco Posts: 3,622 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    With CAC green bean

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cladiator said:

    @Catbert said:
    With CAC green bean

    @Catbert said:
    With CAC green bean

    First of all, and most importantly, this is a beautiful coin. I love it! Congrats, Catbert!

    However, this is NOT XF40. This isn't even VF35. It struggles at VF30. What sticker do CAC coins overgraded by two grades receive? A black bean? A jumping bean?

    This coin goes straight into the CAC Hall of Shame.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Barberian said:

    @Cladiator said:

    @Catbert said:
    With CAC green bean

    @Catbert said:
    With CAC green bean

    First of all, and most importantly, this is a beautiful coin. I love it! Congrats, Catbert!

    However, this is NOT XF40. This isn't even VF35. It struggles at VF30. What sticker do CAC coins overgraded by two grades receive? A black bean? A jumping bean?

    This coin goes straight into the CAC Hall of Shame.

    Actually, I think I agree with you. That worn ribbon would be the clearest indication to me.

    Seated Half Society member #38
    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:

    @Barberian said:

    @Cladiator said:

    @Catbert said:
    With CAC green bean

    @Catbert said:
    With CAC green bean

    First of all, and most importantly, this is a beautiful coin. I love it! Congrats, Catbert!

    However, this is NOT XF40. This isn't even VF35. It struggles at VF30. What sticker do CAC coins overgraded by two grades receive? A black bean? A jumping bean?

    This coin goes straight into the CAC Hall of Shame.

    Actually, I think I agree with you. That worn ribbon would be the clearest indication to me.

    There is nothing on it that indicates XF40 wear. The overall wear suggests VF30 at best. Perhaps CAC is cutting it some slack for a weak strike, but XF40 is absurd.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If we're talking purely numbers I'd have to put its obverse at a 15 and the reverse at a 25 with an overall combined grade of 20. Numbers schmumbers though, by going off those photos it's one of the most eye appealing and honest circulated CC halves I've seen in quite some time. The coin is a winner in my book regardless of the label.

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