<< <i>It also wouldn't surprise me if some/many of these w coins are lost in the regular bullion coins over many, many years and drop the actual available amount of coins. The mintmark is so small that it is easy to miss, they did not place it in a spot on the coin that is separate from other design elements. It gets sold at spot and melted with other eagle coins, etc. >>
+1000 -- I have done extremely well at shows saving 'W' ms gold eagles from bullion piles, although in the last year it seems many dealers have caught on to the fact they're special and finding them in the wild has mostly dried up. The point is that many have already been mishandled and or melted and over time that's only going to continue.
<< <i>BTW I put that 8822 mintage in my table of 1 ounce gold and it is a huge hole in the eagle series.... If this is the last one it will be huge l o n g t e r m, if more come out I would buy those too. Just look at that string and you see how it sticks out. >>
I couldn't agree more . Those with time on their side would be wise to put one or two away...
<< <i>If the 2011-W ends up the new low mintage king, then on the coattails of that publicity, the 2012 will sell more. --Jerry >>
Yes, unless they run $2,400+ from the mint. >>
I may be wrong on this but I think that higher trending gold prices can increase sales because a rising price gets people excited about presumed future growth. A falling gold price can supress sales because no one wants to buy something today and immediately lose value the following week. It is counter intuitive but I think true. Of course adding to the mix is the general economy which could affect sales also.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
What are the chances the Mint sees the low sales of the 2011 W and decides not to make the 2012 W? I don't think they are required to by law unlike the Spouse coins, right?
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
I think the 2011 W was a under the radar annv edition I don't think the mint will make a UNC W in gold for 2012 If they do I think it will be a buffalo. anyway that's what I think.
<< <i>What are the chances the Mint sees the low sales of the 2011 W and decides not to make the 2012 W? I don't think they are required to by law unlike the Spouse coins, right? >>
<< <i>I may be wrong on this but I think that higher trending gold prices can increase sales because a rising price gets people excited about presumed future growth. A falling gold price can supress sales because no one wants to buy something today and immediately lose value the following week. It is counter intuitive but I think true. Of course adding to the mix is the general economy which could affect sales also. >>
I don't think your going to be increasing the collector base with higher prices. I think potential new collectors will chooses food, shelter, and realitively cheap silver.
I was told that coins will ship on the 14 of FEB I have a delivery of 24 FEB ten days later. I was also told the coins are in stock and ready to be shipped call the mint and see if you get the same reply.
<< <i>well, I ordered one exactly one month ago today. Still showing backordered, with an Expected to Ship date one month more than when i purchased.
I'm kissing this coin goodbye. It'll never come . . .
Mark >>
There is always a slim glimmer of hope...
I ordered a 2008 W Plat proof 4 coin set just when they went B/O. The date kept getting pushed back. It arrived nearly 3 months after I ordered it. I paid about $2100 for the set. On the day that it arrived they were bringing about $4K on Ebay. You never know. You might luck out :-)
I actually spoke with Mint customer service on Friday (as suggested by another member posted here) regarding an order placed a month ago and was also told "your order shows the shipping date of 02/14". I'm not too optimistic but would still leave 10% chance
I also called the Mint on Friday (2/10) because of that recommendation, and it was strange, because they also told me it had a ship date of 2/14, and the "last update" on the order was 1/30. He also said it hadn't "moved to the closed state", and when I asked what that meant, he said it meant there were still coins available.
Has anyone gotten an answer out of PCGS as to why there are no population reports for the 2011 and 2011-W AGEs?
I called Customer Service a while back, and they said that there was something wrong with the link between the database & the Population Report, because populations WERE showing up if you look it up using CoinFacts, but NOT if you just click on the Pop Report link on bottom of the main web site.
She said she would pass along the issue to try and get it fixed.
Other coins are also missing in the report, but I can't remember which ones. I had another post on this issue a couple weeks ago.
Thanks revoldlog! But, where do you find the population number?
The Platinum Eagle population report and price guide are in the same bad shape, even in Coin Facts. The only response I got to my detailed questions was a confusing mish-mash that didn't answer my questions.
I'm not so sure that I'll be renewing Coin Facts.
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<< <i>Thanks revoldlog! But, where do you find the population number?
The Platinum Eagle population report and price guide are in the same bad shape, even in Coin Facts. The only response I got to my detailed questions was a confusing mish-mash that didn't answer my questions.
I'm not so sure that I'll be renewing Coin Facts. >>
You can still use the PCGS population report page, but instead of choosing the category, you directly type in the coin number in the "Lookup by PCGS No: " field.
Or, you can look at someone's registry set and click on the coin number directly.
<< <i>I also called the Mint on Friday (2/10) because of that recommendation, and it was strange, because they also told me it had a ship date of 2/14, and the "last update" on the order was 1/30. He also said it hadn't "moved to the closed state", and when I asked what that meant, he said it meant there were still coins available.
Comments
<< <i>The one I got from the Apmex "25" has a small scratch...no surprise there, but wonder what that makes it worth?
More than you paid.
Apmex sends the good one's in for grading.
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
<< <i>It also wouldn't surprise me if some/many of these w coins are lost in the regular bullion coins over many, many years and drop the actual available amount of coins. The mintmark is so small that it is easy to miss, they did not place it in a spot on the coin that is separate from other design elements. It gets sold at spot and melted with other eagle coins, etc. >>
+1000 -- I have done extremely well at shows saving 'W' ms gold eagles from bullion piles, although in the last year it seems many dealers have caught on to the fact they're special and finding them in the wild has mostly dried up. The point is that many have already been mishandled and or melted and over time that's only going to continue.
<< <i>BTW I put that 8822 mintage in my table of 1 ounce gold and it is a huge hole in the eagle series.... If this is the last one it will be huge l o n g t e r m, if more come out I would buy those too. Just look at that string and you see how it sticks out. >>
I couldn't agree more
<< <i>If the 2011-W ends up the new low mintage king, then on the coattails of that publicity, the 2012 will sell more. --Jerry >>
Yes, unless they run $2,400+ from the mint.
A $2400 mint price would require a $2150 weekly average gold price
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
<< <i>
<< <i>If the 2011-W ends up the new low mintage king, then on the coattails of that publicity, the 2012 will sell more. --Jerry >>
Yes, unless they run $2,400+ from the mint. >>
I may be wrong on this but I think that higher trending gold prices can increase sales because a rising price gets people excited about presumed future growth. A falling gold price can supress sales because no one wants to buy something today and immediately lose value the following week. It is counter intuitive but I think true. Of course adding to the mix is the general economy which could affect sales also.
I don't think the mint will make a UNC W in gold for 2012
If they do I think it will be a buffalo.
anyway that's what I think.
VL
<< <i>What are the chances the Mint sees the low sales of the 2011 W and decides not to make the 2012 W? I don't think they are required to by law unlike the Spouse coins, right? >>
That would make too much sense.
<< <i>I may be wrong on this but I think that higher trending gold prices can increase sales because a rising price gets people excited about presumed future growth. A falling gold price can supress sales because no one wants to buy something today and immediately lose value the following week. It is counter intuitive but I think true. Of course adding to the mix is the general economy which could affect sales also. >>
I don't think your going to be increasing the collector base with higher prices. I think potential new collectors will chooses food, shelter, and realitively cheap silver.
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
<< <i>Coin Update reports on Feb. that there has been no change in mint sales numbers, holding at 8822. This is good. >>
This is fantastic news!! The final finals will likely be even lower.
2011 AE GOLD UNC MM 1 OZ 6 $1,878.00 $11,268.00 6 units backordered. Expected to ship on 02/23/2012.
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
In God We Trust.... all others pay in Gold and Silver!
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
<< <i>Still weak. The mob hasn't caught on yet. >>
Mob still hypnotized buying 25th ASE sets. Once they break that spell they will move on to something else. Perhaps this. The 2011w AGE is a cool coin.
I was also told the coins are in stock and ready to be shipped
call the mint and see if you get the same reply.
VL
<< <i>As long as the mint numbers don't increase, I hope everyone here receives their backorders
Exactly. These are already counted in the sales numbers.
The LOWEST mintage of ALL AGEs - love it!
I'm kissing this coin goodbye. It'll never come . . .
Mark
<< <i>well, I ordered one exactly one month ago today. Still showing backordered, with an Expected to Ship date one month more than when i purchased.
I'm kissing this coin goodbye. It'll never come . . .
Mark >>
There is always a slim glimmer of hope...
I ordered a 2008 W Plat proof 4 coin set just when they went B/O. The date kept getting pushed back. It arrived nearly 3 months after I ordered it. I paid about $2100 for the set. On the day that it arrived they were bringing about $4K on Ebay. You never know. You might luck out :-)
hmmm . . .
so don't give up........
VL
Wishing you luck
I knew it would happen.
PCGS Pop Report ---------------------------------------68---69---70
2011-W $50 Eagle-25th Anniversary-------------------1---662--150
2011-W $50 Eagle-25th Anniversary First Strike------2----75----83
2011 $50 Eagle-25th Anniversary First Strike --------2----172--1588
2011 $50 Eagle-25th Anniversary----------------- ----4----148--82
I called Customer Service a while back, and they said that there was something wrong with the link between the database & the Population Report, because populations WERE showing up if you look it up using CoinFacts, but NOT if you just click on the Pop Report link on bottom of the main web site.
She said she would pass along the issue to try and get it fixed.
Other coins are also missing in the report, but I can't remember which ones. I had another post on this issue a couple weeks ago.
Mark
The Platinum Eagle population report and price guide are in the same bad shape, even in Coin Facts. The only response I got to my detailed questions was a confusing mish-mash that didn't answer my questions.
I'm not so sure that I'll be renewing Coin Facts.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Thanks revoldlog! But, where do you find the population number?
The Platinum Eagle population report and price guide are in the same bad shape, even in Coin Facts. The only response I got to my detailed questions was a confusing mish-mash that didn't answer my questions.
I'm not so sure that I'll be renewing Coin Facts. >>
You can still use the PCGS population report page, but instead of choosing the category, you directly type in the coin number in the "Lookup by PCGS No: " field.
Or, you can look at someone's registry set and click on the coin number directly.
<< <i>You just have to look for the population number.
PCGS Pop Report ---------------------------------------68---69---70
2011-W $50 Eagle-25th Anniversary-------------------1---662--150
2011-W $50 Eagle-25th Anniversary First Strike------2----75----83
2011 $50 Eagle-25th Anniversary First Strike --------2----172--1588
2011 $50 Eagle-25th Anniversary----------------- ----4----148--82 >>
So the bullion coins are of much higher quality than the collector version from the Mint? Gee, thanks Mint.
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
<< <i>I also called the Mint on Friday (2/10) because of that recommendation, and it was strange, because they also told me it had a ship date of 2/14, and the "last update" on the order was 1/30. He also said it hadn't "moved to the closed state", and when I asked what that meant, he said it meant there were still coins available.
hmmm . . . >>
Did the mint ship any backorder on 2/14??
Order Date: 01/13/2012 at 07:29 AM
Order Status: Your order request has been cancelled.
2011 AE GOLD UNC MM 1 OZ 2 $1,878.00 $3,756.00 Item is no longer available.
<< <i>Well - some not so unexpected news... No more waiting game - my order is cancelled
2011 AE GOLD UNC MM 1 OZ 2 $1,878.00 $3,756.00 Item is no longer available. >>
What a bummer! Very sorry to hear this.
What is the latest date/time for which an order was filled?
<< <i>
<< <i>Well - some not so unexpected news... No more waiting game - my order is cancelled
2011 AE GOLD UNC MM 1 OZ 2 $1,878.00 $3,756.00 Item is no longer available. >>
What a bummer! Very sorry to hear this.
What is the latest date/time for which an order was filled? >>
My 1/12/2012 8:36 PM was filled. Anyone else have a later order filled?
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
My order was cancelled also
<< <i>Grabbed a couple before they went dark >>
Did you buy those already graded? I thought I read they were difficult in 70.
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
<< <i>purchased directly from mint at various times. Screened what I sent for grading. >>
Wow, nice! Why do some have the 25th anniversary designation and others don't? Do you need to specifically request it?
"How many times can a man turn his head and pretend he just doesn’t see?” - Bob Dylan
Het derryb, are you parting with any of yours?
Mark