I'll try to compile statistics at some point in the future. I remember receiving a 7.5 on a Tanana which set me off. I do believe you might be right, the hard grader gave more .5s I'll check. If I remember there was 1 lot of minis where I received the most 9s, the other three seemed to be done by one guy who just gave me a run of 8s on everything with 7s being the default for any star or low pop. I got very few min size and I remember seeing a couple "evid of trim" - I believe I also got a 2 on one card what was I smoking on that one?
Henry, did you check surfaces on the minis? In my experience, that is invariably the reason why an otherwise mint or gem mint card gets "net graded" to an 8 or 9 instead of a 9 or 10. Back centering is also a factor, though I certainly have seen my share of 90/10 back centered minis in a PSA 9 holder before.
I'd agree with Jim about the half grades--I seem to get a bunch or none at all, usually the latter, so I don't think most graders really utilize the half grade.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Surprised we haven't heard from BBG telling you that your grades are likely legit and you need some deep introspection into your selection ability to find the reason for the low grades. Maybe past indiscretions on your part. Nothing to see here.....no such thing as grader inconsistency........eh Jim?
Here is the line items of my first lot of 1975 REG 1 21492518 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 3 '74 HIGHLIGHTS BOB GIBSON Card 2 1 21492519 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1975 TOPPS 5 '74 HIGHLIGHTS NOLAN RYAN Card 2 2 21492520 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 5 '74 HIGHLIGHTS NOLAN RYAN Card 3 1 21492521 NEAR MINT 7 ST 1975 TOPPS 6 '74 HIGHLIGHTS MIKE MARSHALL Card 4 1 21492522 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 7 '74 HIGHLIGHTS STEVE BUSBY/DICK BOSMAN/NOLAN RYAN Card 5 1 21492523 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 9 FRANK TEPEDINO Card 6 1 21492524 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 10 WILLIE DAVIS Card 6 2 21492525 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 10 WILLIE DAVIS Card 7 1 21492526 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 11 BILL MELTON Card 8 1 21492527 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 12 DAVID CLYDE Card 8 2 21492528 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 12 DAVID CLYDE Card 9 1 21492529 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 14 MILT WILCOX Card 10 1 21492530 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 17 DAVE CONCEPCION Card 11 1 21492531 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 19 JERRY KOOSMAN Card 11 2 21492532 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 19 JERRY KOOSMAN Card 12 1 21492533 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 21 ROLLIE FINGERS Card 13 1 21492534 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 22 DAVE CASH Card 14 1 21492535 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 23 BILL RUSSELL Card 14 2 21492536 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 23 BILL RUSSELL Card 15 1 21492537 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 25 LEE MAY Card 15 2 21492538 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 25 LEE MAY Card 16 1 21492539 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 26 DAVE McNALLY Card 17 1 21492540 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 28 TOM MURPHY Card 18 1 21492541 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 31 DAVE RADER Card 19 1 21492542 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 32 REGGIE CLEVELAND Card 20 1 21492543 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 35 RON SANTO Card 21 1 21492544 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 36 JOE LOVITTO Card 22 1 21492545 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 37 DAVE FREISLEBEN Card 22 2 21492546 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 37 DAVE FREISLEBEN Card 23 1 21492547 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 38 BUDDY BELL Card 24 1 21492548 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 39 ANDY THORNTON Card 25 1 21492549 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 41 CESAR GERONIMO Card 26 1 21492550 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 43 CLEON JONES Card 26 2 21492551 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 43 CLEON JONES Card 27 1 21492552 MINT 9 ST 1975 TOPPS 44 PAT DOBSON Card 28 1 21492553 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 45 JOE RUDI Card 29 1 21492554 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 46 PHILLIES TEAM DANNY OZARK, MGR. Card 30 1 21492555 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 46 PHILLIES TEAM DANNY OZARK, MGR. Card 31 1 21492556 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 47 TOMMY JOHN Card 31 2 21492557 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 47 TOMMY JOHN Card 32 1 21492558 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 48 FREDDIE PATEK Card 33 1 21492559 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 49 LARRY DIERKER Card 34 1 21492560 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 51 BOB FORSCH Card 35 1 21492561 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 52 DARRELL PORTER Card 36 1 21492562 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS 53 DAVE GIUSTI Card 37 1 21492563 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 54 ERIC SODERHOLM Card 38 1 21492564 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 55 BOBBY BONDS Card 39 1 21492565 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 57 DAVE JOHNSON Card 40 1 21492566 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 59 KEN HENDERSON Card 40 2 21492567 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 59 KEN HENDERSON Card 41 1 21492568 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 61 DAVE WINFIELD Card 41 2 21492569 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 61 DAVE WINFIELD Card 41 3 21492570 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 61 DAVE WINFIELD Card 42 1 21492571 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 62 FRITZ PETERSON Card 43 1 21492572 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 63 STEVE SWISHER Card 44 1 21492573 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 64 DAVID CHALK Card 45 1 21492574 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS 65 DON GULLETT Card 45 2 21492575 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 65 DON GULLETT Card 46 1 21492576 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 66 WILLIE HORTON Card 46 2 21492577 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 66 WILLIE HORTON Card 47 1 21492578 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 67 TUG McGRAW Card 48 1 21492579 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 68 RON BLOMBERG Card 49 1 21492580 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card 49 2 21492581 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card 49 3 21492582 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card 50 1 21492583 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 71 CHARLIE HOUGH Card 51 1 21492584 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 75 TED SIMMONS Card 52 1 21492585 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 78 RAY CORBIN Card 52 2 21492586 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 78 RAY CORBIN Card 53 1 21492587 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 80 CARLTON FISK Card 54 1 21492588 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 81 RON REED Card 55 1 21492589 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 82 PAT KELLY Card 55 2 21492590 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 82 PAT KELLY Card 55 3 21492591 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 82 PAT KELLY Card 56 1 21492592 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 83 JIM MERRITT Card 57 1 21492593 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 84 ENZO HERNANDEZ Card 58 1 21492594 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 85 BILL BONHAM Card 58 2 21492595 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 85 BILL BONHAM Card 59 1 21492596 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 87 GEORGE FOSTER Card 59 2 21492597 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 87 GEORGE FOSTER Card 60 1 21492598 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 88 TOM EGAN Card 60 2 21492599 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 88 TOM EGAN Card 61 1 21492600 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 91 DICK GREEN Card 62 1 21492601 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 94 JIM LONBORG Card 63 1 21492602 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 95 JOHN MAYBERRY Card 64 1 21492603 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 96 MIKE COSGROVE Card 65 1 21492604 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 97 EARL WILLIAMS Card 66 1 21492605 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 99 MIKE HEGAN Card 67 1 21492606 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 100 WILLIE STARGELL Card 67 2 21492607 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 100 WILLIE STARGELL Card 68 1 21492608 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS 102 JOE DECKER Card 69 1 21492609 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 106 MIKE HARGROVE Card 69 2 21492610 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1975 TOPPS 106 MIKE HARGROVE Card 69 3 21492611 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 106 MIKE HARGROVE Card 70 1 21492612 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 107 JIM BARR Card 71 1 21492613 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 110 WILBUR WOOD Card 72 1 21492614 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 111 WAYNE GARRETT Card 73 1 21492615 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 112 LARRY HARDY Card 74 1 21492616 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 113 ELLIOTT MADDOX Card 74 2 21492617 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 113 ELLIOTT MADDOX Card 75 1 21492618 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 113 ELLIOTT MADDOX Card 76 1 21492619 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 118 MIKE ANDERSON Card 76 2 21492620 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 118 MIKE ANDERSON Card 77 1 21492621 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 119 TOMMY HELMS Card 78 1 21492622 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 120 STEVE BUSBY Card 79 1 21492623 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 121 BILL NORTH Card 80 1 21492624 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 124 JERRY REUSS Card 80 2 21492625 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 124 JERRY REUSS Card 81 1 21492626 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 125 KEN SINGLETON Card 82 1 21492627 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 127 GLENN BORGMANN Card 82 2 21492628 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 127 GLENN BORGMANN Card 83 1 21492629 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 128 BILL LEE Card 84 1 21492630 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 129 RICK MONDAY Card 85 1 21492631 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 133 DAN DRIESSEN Card 86 1 21492632 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 134 RON HODGES Card 86 2 21492633 FAIR 1.5 1975 TOPPS 134 RON HODGES Card 87 1 21492634 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 135 CHARLIE SPIKES Card 88 1 21492635 VERY GOOD 3 1975 TOPPS 136 JIM MASON Card 89 1 21492636 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1975 TOPPS 137 TERRY FORSTER Card 89 2 21492637 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 137 TERRY FORSTER Card 90 1 21492638 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 138 DEL UNSER Card 90 2 21492639 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 138 DEL UNSER Card 91 1 21492640 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 140 STEVE GARVEY Card 92 1 21492641 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 141 MICKEY STANLEY Card 92 2 21492642 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 141 MICKEY STANLEY Card 93 1 21492643 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 142 BOB REYNOLDS Card 94 1 21492644 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card 94 2 21492645 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card 94 3 21492646 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card 95 1 21492647 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 144 JIM WOHLFORD Card 95 2 21492648 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 144 JIM WOHLFORD Card 96 1 21492649 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 145 KEN HOLTZMAN Card 97 1 21492650 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 149 TIM FOLI Card 98 1 21492651 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 151 STEVE BRYE Card 99 1 21492652 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 152 MARIO GUERRERO Card 99 2 21492653 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 152 MARIO GUERRERO Card 100 1 21492654 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 155 JIM BIBBY Card 100 2 21492655 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 155 JIM BIBBY Card 101 1 21492656 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 156 DAVE KINGMAN Card 101 2 21492657 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 156 DAVE KINGMAN Card 102 1 21492658 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 157 PEDRO BORBON Card 102 2 21492659 VERY GOOD 3 1975 TOPPS 157 PEDRO BORBON Card 103 1 21492660 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 159 STEVE ARLIN Card 103 2 21492661 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 159 STEVE ARLIN Card 104 1 21492662 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 160 GRAIG NETTLES Card 105 1 21492663 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 163 JIM BREWER Card 106 1 21492664 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 164 MICKEY RIVERS Card 107 1 21492665 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 165 DOUG RADER Card 108 1 21492666 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 166 WOODIE FRYMAN Card 109 1 21492667 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 169 COOKIE ROJAS Card 109 2 21492668 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 169 COOKIE ROJAS Card 110 1 21492669 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 171 ED KIRKPATRICK Card 111 1 21492670 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 172 RED SOX TEAM DARRELL JOHNSON, MGR. Card 112 1 21492671 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 175 DON MONEY Card 112 2 21492672 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 175 DON MONEY Card 112 3 21492673 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 175 DON MONEY Card 113 1 21492674 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 176 BURT HOOTON Card 113 2 21492675 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 176 BURT HOOTON Card 114 1 21492676 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 179 TOM BRADLEY Card 115 1 21492677 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 180 JOE MORGAN Card 115 2 21492678 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 180 JOE MORGAN Card 116 1 21492679 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 181 FRED BEENE Card 117 1 21492680 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 182 DON HAHN Card 118 1 21492681 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 183 MEL STOTTLEMYRE Card 119 1 21492682 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 185 STEVE CARLTON Card 119 2 21492683 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 185 STEVE CARLTON Card 120 1 21492684 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 186 WILLIE CRAWFORD Card 121 1 21492685 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 188 TOM GRIFFIN Card 121 2 21492686 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 188 TOM GRIFFIN Card 122 1 21492687 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 189 1951-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card 122 2 21492688 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 189 1951-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card 122 3 21492689 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 189 1951-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card 123 1 21492690 MINT 9 OC 1975 TOPPS 190 1952-MVP'S BOBBY SHANTZ/HANK SAUER Card 124 1 21492691 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 192 1954-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/WILLIE MAYS Card 124 2 21492692 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 192 1954-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/WILLIE MAYS Card 124 3 21492693 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 192 1954-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/WILLIE MAYS Card 125 1 21492694 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 193 1955-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card 125 2 21492695 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 193 1955-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card 126 1 21492696 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 194 1956-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/DON NEWCOMBE Card 126 2 21492697 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 194 1956-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/DON NEWCOMBE Card 126 3 21492698 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 194 1956-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/DON NEWCOMBE Card 127 1 21492699 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 195 1957-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/HANK AARON Card 127 2 21492700 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 195 1957-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/HANK AARON Card 127 3 21492701 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 195 1957-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/HANK AARON Card 128 1 21492702 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 196 1958-MVP'S JACKIE JENSEN/ERNIE BANKS Card 129 1 21492703 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 196 1958-MVP'S JACKIE JENSEN/ERNIE BANKS Card 130 1 21492704 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 198 1960-MVP'S ROGER MARIS/DICK GROAT Card 130 2 21492705 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 198 1960-MVP'S ROGER MARIS/DICK GROAT Card 131 1 21492706 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 199 1961-MVP'S ROGER MARIS/FRANK ROBINSON Card 132 1 21492707 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 200 1962-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/MAURY WILLS Card
Lots of 8.5s, these were from the Raw 5 pristine sets that REA had around 2009ish well...he did give me the extra .5 on the Hodges to push it to 1.5! One 10 and about 55 9s out of 190 cards...now look at this
1 1 21442728 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 501 BILL ROBINSON Card 2 1 21442729 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 503 FRED STANLEY Card 3 1 21442730 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 503 FRED STANLEY Card 4 1 21442731 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 505 CHRIS SPEIER Card 5 1 21442732 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 505 CHRIS SPEIER Card 6 1 21442733 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 506 LERON LEE Card 7 1 21442734 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 506 LERON LEE Card 8 1 21442735 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 507 TOM CARROLL Card 9 1 21442736 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 508 BOB HANSEN Card 10 1 21442737 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 508 BOB HANSEN Card 11 1 21442738 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 508 BOB HANSEN Card 12 1 21442739 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 510 VIDA BLUE Card 13 1 21442740 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 512 LARRY MILBOURNE Card 14 1 21442741 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 514 JOSE CRUZ Card 15 1 21442742 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 514 JOSE CRUZ Card 16 1 21442743 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 515 MANNY SANGUILLEN Card 17 1 21442744 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 516 DON HOOD Card 18 1 21442745 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 517 CHECKLIST 397-528 Card 19 1 21442746 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 517 CHECKLIST 397-528 Card 20 1 21442747 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 519 JIM TODD Card 21 1 21442748 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 520 AMOS OTIS Card 22 1 21442749 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 520 AMOS OTIS Card 23 1 21442750 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 522 GARY SUTHERLAND Card 24 1 21442751 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 525 TOM HOUSE Card 25 1 21442752 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 526 LARRY HISLE Card 26 1 21442753 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 527 MAC SCARCE Card 27 1 21442754 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 530 GAYLORD PERRY Card 28 1 21442755 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 531 REDS TEAM SPARKY ANDERSON, MGR. Card 29 1 21442756 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 532 GORMAN THOMAS Card 30 1 21442757 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 536 BOB MOOSE Card 31 1 21442758 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 538 DUFFY DYER Card 32 1 21442759 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 539 JESSE JEFFERSON Card 33 1 21442760 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1975 TOPPS 539 JESSE JEFFERSON Card 34 1 21442761 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 540 LOU BROCK Card 35 1 21442762 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 541 ROGER METZGER Card 36 1 21442763 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 544 STEVE MINGORI Card 37 1 21442764 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 546 JOHN KNOX Card 38 1 21442765 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 549 BILL BUTLER Card 39 1 21442766 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 550 RALPH GARR Card 40 1 21442767 N8: MISCUT 1975 TOPPS 550 RALPH GARR Card 41 1 21442768 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 551 LARRY CHRISTENSON Card 42 1 21442769 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 552 JACK BROHAMER Card 43 1 21442770 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 553 JOHN BOCCABELLA Card 44 1 21442771 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 555 AL OLIVER Card 45 1 21442772 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 555 AL OLIVER Card 46 1 21442773 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 560 TONY PEREZ Card 47 1 21442774 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 561 A'S TEAM ALVIN DARK, MGR. Card 48 1 21442775 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 561 A'S TEAM ALVIN DARK, MGR. Card 49 1 21442776 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 565 JOE TORRE Card 50 1 21442777 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 568 DALE MURRAY Card 51 1 21442778 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 569 FRANK WHITE Card 52 1 21442779 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 569 FRANK WHITE Card 53 1 21442780 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 570 JIM WYNN Card 54 1 21442781 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 572 ROGER NELSON Card 55 1 21442782 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 572 ROGER NELSON Card 56 1 21442783 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 572 ROGER NELSON Card 57 1 21442784 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 576 PHIL ROOF Card 58 1 21442785 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 576 PHIL ROOF Card 59 1 21442786 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 576 PHIL ROOF Card 60 1 21442787 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 579 SKIP PITLOCK Card 61 1 21442788 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 579 SKIP PITLOCK Card 62 1 21442789 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 581 DARREL CHANEY Card 63 1 21442790 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 581 DARREL CHANEY Card 64 1 21442791 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 583 ANDY ETCHEBARREN Card 65 1 21442792 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 583 ANDY ETCHEBARREN Card 66 1 21442793 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 585 CHRIS CHAMBLISS Card 67 1 21442794 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 587 CHRIS WARD Card 68 1 21442795 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 589 BRAVES TEAM CLYDE KING, MGR. Card 69 1 21442796 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 590 CESAR CEDENO Card 70 1 21442797 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 590 CESAR CEDENO Card 71 1 21442798 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 591 GLENN ABBOTT Card 72 1 21442799 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 592 BALOR MOORE Card 73 1 21442800 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 593 GENE LAMONT Card 74 1 21442801 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 595 JOE NIEKRO Card 75 1 21442802 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 596 OLLIE BROWN Card 76 1 21442803 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 598 BRUCE KISON Card 77 1 21442804 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 598 BRUCE KISON Card 78 1 21442805 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 600 ROD CAREW Card 79 1 21442806 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 600 ROD CAREW Card 80 1 21442807 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 601 JUAN BENIQUEZ Card 81 1 21442808 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 603 LEW KRAUSSE Card 82 1 21442809 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 605 JOHN ELLIS Card 83 1 21442810 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 606 BRUCE MILLER Card 84 1 21442811 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 606 BRUCE MILLER Card 85 1 21442812 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 609 ELLIE HENDRICKS Card 86 1 21442813 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1975 TOPPS 614 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card 87 1 21442814 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 614 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card 88 1 21442815 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 615 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card 89 1 21442816 N8: MISCUT 1975 TOPPS 616 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card 90 1 21442817 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 616 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card 91 1 21442818 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 617 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card 92 1 21442819 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 617 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card 93 1 21442820 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 618 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card 94 1 21442821 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 620 ROOKIE CATCHERS- OUTFIELDERS Card 95 1 21442822 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 620 ROOKIE CATCHERS- OUTFIELDERS Card 96 1 21442823 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 622 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card 97 1 21442824 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1975 TOPPS 623 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card 98 1 21442825 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 623 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card 99 1 21442826 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 624 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card 100 1 21442827 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 624 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card 101 1 21442828 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 625 BOOG POWELL Card 102 1 21442829 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 627 TOM WALKER Card 103 1 21442830 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 628 RON LeFLORE Card 104 1 21442831 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 629 JOE HOERNER Card 105 1 21442832 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 630 GREG LUZINSKI Card 106 1 21442833 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 632 MORRIS NETTLES Card 107 1 21442834 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 632 MORRIS NETTLES Card 108 1 21442835 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 636 CHARLIE MOORE Card 109 1 21442836 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 637 TED MARTINEZ Card 110 1 21442837 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 638 CUBS TEAM JIM MARSHALL, MGR. Card 111 1 21442838 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 638 CUBS TEAM JIM MARSHALL, MGR. Card 112 1 21442839 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 639 STEVE KLINE Card 113 1 21442840 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 640 HARMON KILLEBREW Card 114 1 21442841 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 640 HARMON KILLEBREW Card 115 1 21442842 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 641 JIM NORTHRUP Card 116 1 21442843 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 644 BILL FAHEY Card 117 1 21442844 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 646 CHECKLIST 529-660 Card 118 1 21442845 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 649 JACK HEIDEMANN Card 119 1 21442846 N8: MISCUT 1975 TOPPS 655 RICO CARTY Card 120 1 21442847 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 656 BILL PLUMMER Card 121 1 21442848 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS 657 BOB OLIVER Card 122 1 21442849 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 657 BOB OLIVER Card 123 1 21442850 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 660 HANK AARON Card
I count 12 9s out of 123! Tons of 7s... These all came from the same 5 sets Honestly guys I think I am done with collecting cards for a while - I might start back up 2014, I am so pissed...I am interested in Aquaphonics and growing Talapia. I just have to weigh and feed the fish not grade them.
<< <i>I think one big mistake submitters make is thinking that everything is predictable. Just because cards came from the same lot doesn't mean they will be consistent. Moreover, just because a submitter picked the cards doesn't mean they will be consistent either. Being tired one night, or perhaps having the light at a different angle, along with an infinite other variables, can cause one to simply mess-up. >>
Utterly brilliant with 100% consideration and clarity regarding the information posted above. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Perhaps having the light at a different angle is the excuse one uses to sell a complete repackaging set including 36 pieces of gum on ebay and selling it on Canadian ebay to hide from the US.
EDIT: Lot 1: 190 cards and a total of 10 PSA 7s = 5% Lot 2: 123 cards and a total of 32 PSA 7s = 27% HOW? Shouldn't there be SOME level of consistency? Again these came from 5 pristine sets I bought from REA and I believe a couple more NM/MT sets picked up around 2006-2008. The sets from REA were indeed pristine with 35 year old tape etc. I know that Joe will read this and hope that he goes over all my submissions because he can tell who is who. I will contact him directly once I cool off.
Sorry to hear about the inconsistent results. Hang in there. I think you got some great advice and comments from many (bbg excluded of course). Maybe after things settle down cracking and resubmitting some of the better cards is a good idea Henry.
<< <i>Perhaps having the light at a different angle is the excuse one uses to sell a complete repackaging set including 36 pieces of gum on ebay and selling it on Canadian ebay to hide from the US. >>
Hmmm......I did not think of that one as a reason. lol!
Henry I think your results are why so few people on this site submit large numbers of cards. The variance in grading with PSA can be astounding and infuriating. As frustrating as it is your best bet is to crack and re-sub. I would also post some detailed scans of those that seem most egregiously misgraded and see what people think. I have found that high resolution scans and the nitpicking that comes with them tend to show flaws that I might have otherwise overlooked or de-emphasized. Best of luck, personally I have not found PSA to be very responsive to entire sub complaints. I have contacted Joe about specific cards within a sub and gotten reviews and grade changes but never gotten any traction when I felt the entire sub was improperly graded.
For what it's worth: that sub is why it is helpful for us collectors to always remember how highly subjective the grading game is-- and to be wary of letting the graders create too much value just by the number they affix to the label. The more I collect over the years, the more I find myself utterly ignoring the grader's grade and evaluating the card with my own eyes, deciding what I think of it independent of the grade some other human being gave it, and then bidding based on sheer eye appeal. Guess what I'm saying is that I'd bet there are some amazing 8s in Henry's sub that should be appreciated for the great cards they are-- and then we sometimes find ourselves thinking less of a card because of the grade it got.
True story: a guy I know has an insane collection. He was big into registry sets. He would often buy a 9 for his set GPA, but then he would keep a better-looking 8 that he liked more. I mean, what does that say about the grading game? I've seen many a centered 3 or 4 that I would take in a heartbeat over certain 5s or 6s or even 7s. That to me says so much about the grading game.
I remember my freshman year at college, I wrote a paper I was so proud of. It got a C+. I had the random luck of having to read that same book upon which the paper was based for another class. I knew it was a no-no but I handed in the very same paper to the other prof. He gave it an A. From that moment on I never sweated grades in life.
But back to cards, I really have found that once we free ourselves and our minds from focusing on the label and instead make it all about the card itself, that card-centric mindset leads to great happiness in collecting. End of day, I love to say, "Who cares what some grader thinks? This card looks great to me and I love it!" I'd bet the farm that some of those 8s could easily be 9s on another day. And if put up with great scans for auction there are discerning collectors out there who will set snipes almost commensurate with 9 prices for an 8 that deserves to be a 9. Same for any card that is undergraded. As a collector I think its key to not let those graders have so much power over our happiness, lol
<< <i>Henry I think your results are why so few people on this site submit large numbers of cards. The variance in grading with PSA can be astounding and infuriating. As frustrating as it is your best bet is to crack and re-sub. I would also post some detailed scans of those that seem most egregiously misgraded and see what people think. I have found that high resolution scans and the nitpicking that comes with them tend to show flaws that I might have otherwise overlooked or de-emphasized. Best of luck, personally I have not found PSA to be very responsive to entire sub complaints. I have contacted Joe about specific cards within a sub and gotten reviews and grade changes but never gotten any traction when I felt the entire sub was improperly graded.
Robb >>
+1
I would second Robb's suggestion to post several cards that you feel were undergraded when you get the cards back. As Matty said, grading is definitely subjective even with the grading standards in place, and it's also possible that the first grader was more liberal with their grades which of course makes the second grader seem even tougher by comparison. We've all gotten subs back with cards we felt were undergraded, as well as cards we thought were generously graded, and if it were possible to simultaneously submit the same sub to two separate graders, the results would certainly confirm that. As Robb also suggested, I would recommend cracking out a few of the cards you feel were most seriously undergraded and resubmit them to see what upgrades you realize (if any). And as a rookie submitter, you will definitely gain valuable experience during that process, too. As a PSA collector, though, I would not be in favor of Joe reviewing or second-guessing the sub with an eye towards bumping some grades, as that kind of request seems closer to asking a special favor, imo, which is not what you want to see in the PSA grading process.
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Hehe, yah Tim it is possible that my cards were given gifts by a grader rather than punished by the grader of death. The cards are at my home, but as usual I probably wont be back to the US for several months. I'll get scans up when I do get back...in the meantime, I am not even going to have my cousin open the boxes. I'll just let them sit and mature like fine wine.
<< <i>Hehe, yah Tim it is possible that my cards were given gifts by a grader rather than punished by the grader of death. The cards are at my home, but as usual I probably wont be back to the US for several months. I'll get scans up when I do get back...in the meantime, I am not even going to have my cousin open the boxes. I'll just let them sit and mature like fine wine. >>
I'd definitely be interested in any of your dupe Mint 9 75 minis for my set, too, at least any that are already filled in your half a dozen registry sets, LOL.
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Henry - I believe those were the sy berger sets. I spent hours looking at them in person and honestly saw far more 8s than anything, so I didnt chase you too far. Pack fresh, but a lot of print issues and very light corners iirc. I remember the aarons having issues from the way they were packed as well. old newspaper jammed at the end i think?
I was really impressed by both. We all know the Winfield to be a sleeper, but it is about time a real psa 9 Schmidt carried a value in line with the card and player... and yes, I am verrrry happy to have grabbed my Winfield recently...
Those were from my private stash that I sold for the Ruth RC. The guy I sold them to put them up. Glad they both did well. I know the Winfield found a good permanent home.
Posted on the 1970s mega forum but for my mini brothers here is the poppage on my mega 1976 submission: 919 cards = 62 psa 10s for a .067 hit rate. Pretty high percentage of 9s (I guess around 75%). I feel pretty good about this since the overall hit rate for the 1976 population is .05. I am not sure if I hit some low pop 10s but I know that many of them were the usual team cards. I didn't hit any stars but few were worthy. My best hit was a 9 on a Stennett RB (which has been impossible to find). As usual the white whales in this set remain elusive. NO way near a 9 in Miller, Briggs, Torre or Oliva (I hardly submitted any either). I really want to get home and crack about 100 9s and resubmit them!
Just one bid increment and it would have been yours, Henry!
With prices like that, I think I may have to sell the few pop 2 10s I still have.
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I just started dabbling in mini's and I was watching some of the PSA 10's go off for fun. ebay user bradybunch_99 won several of them. Is he a board member?
Anyway... that was fun to follow and watch!
Edit: MMD: I didn't see you asking who r***b (531) too. I saw you picked up at least one. Congratulations!
not so fun for me snuff I got destroyed lol- those were some serious bids. I did win the Etch psa 9 for under 300.00 which was probably 1/2 what I thought it would go for (fisheye and all).
I'm just glad I won the Stottlemeyer, geez, LOL...
I did however manage to pick up a PSA 9 Christenson #551 for a good price the other day, $115.
Edit to add: Thanks for the plug, Tony!
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>I'm just glad I won the Stottlemeyer, geez, LOL...
I did however manage to pick up a PSA 9 Christenson #551 for a good price the other day, $115.
Edit to add: Thanks for the plug, Tony! >>
That Stottlemeyer was a great pick-up Tim, I was going to go much higher...there are probably only around 8 legit 9s in existence, I know of 4 shorties
Well, another year, another member freebie sub with six reviews and another year my Brett stays in a PSA 9 holder. For a change though, I did not go ofersix, but hit on a card I pulled from a pack myself and knew was better than a 9. This was actually the second review of it, so you have to stick to your guns. Tough card too:
2 1 17340477 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS MINI 170 BERT CAMPANERIS Card
<< <i>Well, another year, another member freebie sub with six reviews and another year my Brett stays in a PSA 9 holder. For a change though, I did not go ofersix, but hit on a card I pulled from a pack myself and knew was better than a 9. This was actually the second review of it, so you have to stick to your guns. Tough card too:
2 1 17340477 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS MINI 170 BERT CAMPANERIS Card
Yes, it can be had. >>
Nice work, Jim! Congrats!
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Was happy to recently pick up this PSA 9 pop 8 Christenson card for a nice price.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Had half of a large order pop today, very happy overall, but very hit or miss. Hit a 1973 10, 9 of 15 psa 10s on 1975 hostess hand cuts, 5 76 psa 10s (3 76 Oliva PSA 9s.... all pd, sorry for the tease Henry). I hit a nice 1 of 1 71 basketball PSA 10 as well. I sent in a small amount of minis as well, but nothing new. All were previous n6s (3 of the previous n6s turned into eots, so that cost me a few bucks) or crack-outs, so I am much happier with the results than you would think (I soooo wanted a 9 on the palmer, but it bumped from an 8 to an 8.5)... 9 cards graded, 3 of them 9s and some tough 8s as well.
355 1 21655759 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 335 JIM PALMER Card 357 1 21655761 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 6 '74 HIGHLIGHTS MIKE MARSHALL Card 358 1 21655762 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 6 '74 HIGHLIGHTS MIKE MARSHALL Card 359 1 21655763 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 18 TIGERS TEAM RALPH HOUK, MGR. Card 365 1 21655769 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 104 BILL MADLOCK Card 366 1 21655770 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 173 STEVE ROGERS Card 368 1 21655772 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 224 RAMON HERNANDEZ Card 369 1 21655773 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 255 DWIGHT EVANS Card 370 1 21655774 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 277 FRANK TAVERAS Card
"3 Oliva PSA 9s.... all pd, sorry for the tease Henry)."
ROFL Jim I nearly crapped my pants! - thank god for the quick "sorry for the tease!" That Tigers psa 9 mini is a great hit - almost all of those I have seen are shorties..it is probably now more difficult than the cubs team card in a full 9. Nice Christianson Tim...very nice price, I think I just paid double that.
I have probably 100 gorgeous Olivas, all with the same print shmutz, some better, some worse. I was hoping to slip the best by as 8s... no dice. Hit some tougher 76s tho, with Montefusco and Concepcion 9s among others.
No, that's dust on the scanner. I had the same thought when I looked at the scan and was how did I miss that all these years with the card. The last time they didn't bump it, it was because of t/b centering on back, which was a sad joke.
If that were Ken Brett, it would likely be in a 10 holder, but I do believe PSA is very conservative when it comes to bumping a card of that magnitude.
That said, I would keep trying, Jim. Nice work on the Campy bump from 9 to 10, though!
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That's a case scratch there between the e and b. The back is dead on l/r and 70/30 t/b on back, actually much better than any other brett 10 I have seen which are generally atrocious.
Tim nailed it. The card is nicer than the campy and if it were ken brett, it would have been in a 10 long ago. It is what it is, but I will keep trying every once in a while. Tempted to try and cross it into an sgc 98, then recross...
I've considered that more than once. I don't see downside risk on the grade, just God forbid that becomes the one card in 100 that I ding cracking it...
If the grader put a sticky tag at the bottom left corner, there could be a slight bend or notch at the corner that can only be seen at an angle view? Otherwise, the card looks great! A bit more risky doing multiple resubs with the same card. Sooner or later an accident could make your top of the line 9 an 8 or worse?
Honestly, I don't and wont lose sleep over it. It is one of my favorite cards I own, pulled by me on my case break, so it will always be worth more to me than anyone else. For my own vanity, I would love to eventually see it in a 10 holder, but then that might be the worst thing that could happen as I would inevitably start to think about whether I could afford such an expensive card in my collection...
We all have some amazing cards in our sets, this happens to be the rare case of having pack pulled and graded such a key card at that level. It's one thing to have a sub where you hit a bunch of low pop 9s and probably more financially rewarding, but from a personal standpoint, this and the PSA 10 Seaver I pulled and graded are more special than the rest.
I've been working on a project the past month or so, just catching up on the news. Yah BBCE has made quite the splash. Jim do you know the source of the couple of cases that BBCE got their hands on? You still have two correct? I was looking at the number of active sets which is at 70. As I worked down the list I stumbled on 'the hill collection" which is about 18% complete and has a average grade of 9.38! Now I know where all the cards I lost out on have gone Anyone know who this is?
You guys following the National at all? BBCE sold a mini wax case for 39k today... that cant be bad for minis...
Yes, I saw that. I'm not sure what it means though for Mini cards individually. Unopened Mini wax packs have more than doubled in price over the last 1 or 2 years, but the prices on individual high grade cards have been largely flat with the exception being Brett and Ryan in an 8 or higher. I've noticed that those two in particular have surged upward 30 percent more in the last year.
Another interesting observation is that over the last year, it's getting harder and harder for me to find high grade raw mini's at local and regional card shows. Since last fall, I've found two low pop cards that I've received an 8 on. I pulled an 8 on a Blyleven and an 8 on a Chuck Taylor a couple of weeks ago. That's it. I've found a few high pop raw commons that I think would grade 8 or higher, but even these are getting harder to come by. So, what I have been doing is buying every high grade raw Mini I find at a show, regardless of its population. Most are not worth grading at this time, but I'm banking on their future value/rarity. I'm also buying all full sized green/yellows and red/yellows that I think will grade out at a 7 that I previously passed on - even these are getting hard to find at this grade level and full-sized at shows compared to the previous 5 or so years. I think even in 7, these will have decent value going forward, and I would even go so far as to say that for these color combos, 7 is the new 8.
MM - I noticed the Hill Collection earlier this past week. I have no idea who it is, but it will be fun to watch this set grow, and I hope it makes it to 100 percent. We've seen a couple of these high grade sets fizzle out at about 30-50 percent completion. It will be a challenge for them, no doubt. You have to have the passion for these cards to have the staying power to make it that far at that high a grade. And, it's only going to get tougher.
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I'd agree with Jim about the half grades--I seem to get a bunch or none at all, usually the latter, so I don't think most graders really utilize the half grade.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
1 21492518 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 3 '74 HIGHLIGHTS BOB GIBSON Card
2 1 21492519 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1975 TOPPS 5 '74 HIGHLIGHTS NOLAN RYAN Card
2 2 21492520 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 5 '74 HIGHLIGHTS NOLAN RYAN Card
3 1 21492521 NEAR MINT 7 ST 1975 TOPPS 6 '74 HIGHLIGHTS MIKE MARSHALL Card
4 1 21492522 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 7 '74 HIGHLIGHTS STEVE BUSBY/DICK BOSMAN/NOLAN RYAN Card
5 1 21492523 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 9 FRANK TEPEDINO Card
6 1 21492524 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 10 WILLIE DAVIS Card
6 2 21492525 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 10 WILLIE DAVIS Card
7 1 21492526 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 11 BILL MELTON Card
8 1 21492527 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 12 DAVID CLYDE Card
8 2 21492528 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 12 DAVID CLYDE Card
9 1 21492529 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 14 MILT WILCOX Card
10 1 21492530 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 17 DAVE CONCEPCION Card
11 1 21492531 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 19 JERRY KOOSMAN Card
11 2 21492532 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 19 JERRY KOOSMAN Card
12 1 21492533 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 21 ROLLIE FINGERS Card
13 1 21492534 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 22 DAVE CASH Card
14 1 21492535 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 23 BILL RUSSELL Card
14 2 21492536 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 23 BILL RUSSELL Card
15 1 21492537 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 25 LEE MAY Card
15 2 21492538 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 25 LEE MAY Card
16 1 21492539 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 26 DAVE McNALLY Card
17 1 21492540 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 28 TOM MURPHY Card
18 1 21492541 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 31 DAVE RADER Card
19 1 21492542 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 32 REGGIE CLEVELAND Card
20 1 21492543 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 35 RON SANTO Card
21 1 21492544 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 36 JOE LOVITTO Card
22 1 21492545 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 37 DAVE FREISLEBEN Card
22 2 21492546 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 37 DAVE FREISLEBEN Card
23 1 21492547 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 38 BUDDY BELL Card
24 1 21492548 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 39 ANDY THORNTON Card
25 1 21492549 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 41 CESAR GERONIMO Card
26 1 21492550 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 43 CLEON JONES Card
26 2 21492551 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 43 CLEON JONES Card
27 1 21492552 MINT 9 ST 1975 TOPPS 44 PAT DOBSON Card
28 1 21492553 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 45 JOE RUDI Card
29 1 21492554 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 46 PHILLIES TEAM DANNY OZARK, MGR. Card
30 1 21492555 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 46 PHILLIES TEAM DANNY OZARK, MGR. Card
31 1 21492556 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 47 TOMMY JOHN Card
31 2 21492557 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 47 TOMMY JOHN Card
32 1 21492558 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 48 FREDDIE PATEK Card
33 1 21492559 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 49 LARRY DIERKER Card
34 1 21492560 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 51 BOB FORSCH Card
35 1 21492561 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 52 DARRELL PORTER Card
36 1 21492562 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS 53 DAVE GIUSTI Card
37 1 21492563 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 54 ERIC SODERHOLM Card
38 1 21492564 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 55 BOBBY BONDS Card
39 1 21492565 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 57 DAVE JOHNSON Card
40 1 21492566 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 59 KEN HENDERSON Card
40 2 21492567 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 59 KEN HENDERSON Card
41 1 21492568 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 61 DAVE WINFIELD Card
41 2 21492569 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 61 DAVE WINFIELD Card
41 3 21492570 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 61 DAVE WINFIELD Card
42 1 21492571 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 62 FRITZ PETERSON Card
43 1 21492572 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 63 STEVE SWISHER Card
44 1 21492573 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 64 DAVID CHALK Card
45 1 21492574 MINT 9 PD 1975 TOPPS 65 DON GULLETT Card
45 2 21492575 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 65 DON GULLETT Card
46 1 21492576 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 66 WILLIE HORTON Card
46 2 21492577 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 66 WILLIE HORTON Card
47 1 21492578 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 67 TUG McGRAW Card
48 1 21492579 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 68 RON BLOMBERG Card
49 1 21492580 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card
49 2 21492581 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card
49 3 21492582 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 70 MIKE SCHMIDT Card
50 1 21492583 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 71 CHARLIE HOUGH Card
51 1 21492584 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 75 TED SIMMONS Card
52 1 21492585 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 78 RAY CORBIN Card
52 2 21492586 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 78 RAY CORBIN Card
53 1 21492587 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 80 CARLTON FISK Card
54 1 21492588 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 81 RON REED Card
55 1 21492589 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 82 PAT KELLY Card
55 2 21492590 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 82 PAT KELLY Card
55 3 21492591 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 82 PAT KELLY Card
56 1 21492592 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 83 JIM MERRITT Card
57 1 21492593 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 84 ENZO HERNANDEZ Card
58 1 21492594 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 85 BILL BONHAM Card
58 2 21492595 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 85 BILL BONHAM Card
59 1 21492596 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 87 GEORGE FOSTER Card
59 2 21492597 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 87 GEORGE FOSTER Card
60 1 21492598 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 88 TOM EGAN Card
60 2 21492599 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 88 TOM EGAN Card
61 1 21492600 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 91 DICK GREEN Card
62 1 21492601 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 94 JIM LONBORG Card
63 1 21492602 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 95 JOHN MAYBERRY Card
64 1 21492603 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 96 MIKE COSGROVE Card
65 1 21492604 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 97 EARL WILLIAMS Card
66 1 21492605 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 99 MIKE HEGAN Card
67 1 21492606 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 100 WILLIE STARGELL Card
67 2 21492607 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 100 WILLIE STARGELL Card
68 1 21492608 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS 102 JOE DECKER Card
69 1 21492609 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 106 MIKE HARGROVE Card
69 2 21492610 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1975 TOPPS 106 MIKE HARGROVE Card
69 3 21492611 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 106 MIKE HARGROVE Card
70 1 21492612 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 107 JIM BARR Card
71 1 21492613 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 110 WILBUR WOOD Card
72 1 21492614 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 111 WAYNE GARRETT Card
73 1 21492615 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 112 LARRY HARDY Card
74 1 21492616 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 113 ELLIOTT MADDOX Card
74 2 21492617 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 113 ELLIOTT MADDOX Card
75 1 21492618 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 113 ELLIOTT MADDOX Card
76 1 21492619 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 118 MIKE ANDERSON Card
76 2 21492620 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 118 MIKE ANDERSON Card
77 1 21492621 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 119 TOMMY HELMS Card
78 1 21492622 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 120 STEVE BUSBY Card
79 1 21492623 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 121 BILL NORTH Card
80 1 21492624 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 124 JERRY REUSS Card
80 2 21492625 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 124 JERRY REUSS Card
81 1 21492626 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 125 KEN SINGLETON Card
82 1 21492627 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 127 GLENN BORGMANN Card
82 2 21492628 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 127 GLENN BORGMANN Card
83 1 21492629 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 128 BILL LEE Card
84 1 21492630 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 129 RICK MONDAY Card
85 1 21492631 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 133 DAN DRIESSEN Card
86 1 21492632 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 134 RON HODGES Card
86 2 21492633 FAIR 1.5 1975 TOPPS 134 RON HODGES Card
87 1 21492634 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 135 CHARLIE SPIKES Card
88 1 21492635 VERY GOOD 3 1975 TOPPS 136 JIM MASON Card
89 1 21492636 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1975 TOPPS 137 TERRY FORSTER Card
89 2 21492637 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 137 TERRY FORSTER Card
90 1 21492638 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 138 DEL UNSER Card
90 2 21492639 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 138 DEL UNSER Card
91 1 21492640 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 140 STEVE GARVEY Card
92 1 21492641 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 141 MICKEY STANLEY Card
92 2 21492642 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 141 MICKEY STANLEY Card
93 1 21492643 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 142 BOB REYNOLDS Card
94 1 21492644 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card
94 2 21492645 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card
94 3 21492646 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 143 CLIFF JOHNSON Card
95 1 21492647 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 144 JIM WOHLFORD Card
95 2 21492648 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 144 JIM WOHLFORD Card
96 1 21492649 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 145 KEN HOLTZMAN Card
97 1 21492650 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 149 TIM FOLI Card
98 1 21492651 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 151 STEVE BRYE Card
99 1 21492652 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 152 MARIO GUERRERO Card
99 2 21492653 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 152 MARIO GUERRERO Card
100 1 21492654 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 155 JIM BIBBY Card
100 2 21492655 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 155 JIM BIBBY Card
101 1 21492656 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 156 DAVE KINGMAN Card
101 2 21492657 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 156 DAVE KINGMAN Card
102 1 21492658 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 157 PEDRO BORBON Card
102 2 21492659 VERY GOOD 3 1975 TOPPS 157 PEDRO BORBON Card
103 1 21492660 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 159 STEVE ARLIN Card
103 2 21492661 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 159 STEVE ARLIN Card
104 1 21492662 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 160 GRAIG NETTLES Card
105 1 21492663 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 163 JIM BREWER Card
106 1 21492664 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 164 MICKEY RIVERS Card
107 1 21492665 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 165 DOUG RADER Card
108 1 21492666 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 166 WOODIE FRYMAN Card
109 1 21492667 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 169 COOKIE ROJAS Card
109 2 21492668 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 169 COOKIE ROJAS Card
110 1 21492669 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 171 ED KIRKPATRICK Card
111 1 21492670 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 172 RED SOX TEAM DARRELL JOHNSON, MGR. Card
112 1 21492671 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 175 DON MONEY Card
112 2 21492672 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 175 DON MONEY Card
112 3 21492673 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 175 DON MONEY Card
113 1 21492674 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 176 BURT HOOTON Card
113 2 21492675 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 176 BURT HOOTON Card
114 1 21492676 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 179 TOM BRADLEY Card
115 1 21492677 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 180 JOE MORGAN Card
115 2 21492678 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 180 JOE MORGAN Card
116 1 21492679 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 181 FRED BEENE Card
117 1 21492680 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 182 DON HAHN Card
118 1 21492681 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 183 MEL STOTTLEMYRE Card
119 1 21492682 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 185 STEVE CARLTON Card
119 2 21492683 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 185 STEVE CARLTON Card
120 1 21492684 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 186 WILLIE CRAWFORD Card
121 1 21492685 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 188 TOM GRIFFIN Card
121 2 21492686 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 188 TOM GRIFFIN Card
122 1 21492687 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 189 1951-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card
122 2 21492688 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 189 1951-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card
122 3 21492689 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 189 1951-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card
123 1 21492690 MINT 9 OC 1975 TOPPS 190 1952-MVP'S BOBBY SHANTZ/HANK SAUER Card
124 1 21492691 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 192 1954-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/WILLIE MAYS Card
124 2 21492692 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 192 1954-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/WILLIE MAYS Card
124 3 21492693 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 192 1954-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/WILLIE MAYS Card
125 1 21492694 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 193 1955-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card
125 2 21492695 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 193 1955-MVP'S YOGI BERRA/ROY CAMPANELLA Card
126 1 21492696 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 194 1956-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/DON NEWCOMBE Card
126 2 21492697 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 194 1956-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/DON NEWCOMBE Card
126 3 21492698 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 194 1956-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/DON NEWCOMBE Card
127 1 21492699 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 195 1957-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/HANK AARON Card
127 2 21492700 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 195 1957-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/HANK AARON Card
127 3 21492701 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 195 1957-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/HANK AARON Card
128 1 21492702 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 196 1958-MVP'S JACKIE JENSEN/ERNIE BANKS Card
129 1 21492703 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 196 1958-MVP'S JACKIE JENSEN/ERNIE BANKS Card
130 1 21492704 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 198 1960-MVP'S ROGER MARIS/DICK GROAT Card
130 2 21492705 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 198 1960-MVP'S ROGER MARIS/DICK GROAT Card
131 1 21492706 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 199 1961-MVP'S ROGER MARIS/FRANK ROBINSON Card
132 1 21492707 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 200 1962-MVP'S MICKEY MANTLE/MAURY WILLS Card
Lots of 8.5s, these were from the Raw 5 pristine sets that REA had around 2009ish well...he did give me the extra .5 on the Hodges to push it to 1.5!
One 10 and about 55 9s out of 190 cards...now look at this
2 1 21442729 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 503 FRED STANLEY Card
3 1 21442730 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 503 FRED STANLEY Card
4 1 21442731 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 505 CHRIS SPEIER Card
5 1 21442732 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 505 CHRIS SPEIER Card
6 1 21442733 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 506 LERON LEE Card
7 1 21442734 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 506 LERON LEE Card
8 1 21442735 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 507 TOM CARROLL Card
9 1 21442736 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 508 BOB HANSEN Card
10 1 21442737 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 508 BOB HANSEN Card
11 1 21442738 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 508 BOB HANSEN Card
12 1 21442739 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 510 VIDA BLUE Card
13 1 21442740 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 512 LARRY MILBOURNE Card
14 1 21442741 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 514 JOSE CRUZ Card
15 1 21442742 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 514 JOSE CRUZ Card
16 1 21442743 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 515 MANNY SANGUILLEN Card
17 1 21442744 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 516 DON HOOD Card
18 1 21442745 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 517 CHECKLIST 397-528 Card
19 1 21442746 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 517 CHECKLIST 397-528 Card
20 1 21442747 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 519 JIM TODD Card
21 1 21442748 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 520 AMOS OTIS Card
22 1 21442749 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 520 AMOS OTIS Card
23 1 21442750 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 522 GARY SUTHERLAND Card
24 1 21442751 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 525 TOM HOUSE Card
25 1 21442752 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 526 LARRY HISLE Card
26 1 21442753 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 527 MAC SCARCE Card
27 1 21442754 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 530 GAYLORD PERRY Card
28 1 21442755 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 531 REDS TEAM SPARKY ANDERSON, MGR. Card
29 1 21442756 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 532 GORMAN THOMAS Card
30 1 21442757 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 536 BOB MOOSE Card
31 1 21442758 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 538 DUFFY DYER Card
32 1 21442759 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 539 JESSE JEFFERSON Card
33 1 21442760 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1975 TOPPS 539 JESSE JEFFERSON Card
34 1 21442761 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 540 LOU BROCK Card
35 1 21442762 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 541 ROGER METZGER Card
36 1 21442763 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 544 STEVE MINGORI Card
37 1 21442764 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 546 JOHN KNOX Card
38 1 21442765 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 549 BILL BUTLER Card
39 1 21442766 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 550 RALPH GARR Card
40 1 21442767 N8: MISCUT 1975 TOPPS 550 RALPH GARR Card
41 1 21442768 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 551 LARRY CHRISTENSON Card
42 1 21442769 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 552 JACK BROHAMER Card
43 1 21442770 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 553 JOHN BOCCABELLA Card
44 1 21442771 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 555 AL OLIVER Card
45 1 21442772 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 555 AL OLIVER Card
46 1 21442773 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 560 TONY PEREZ Card
47 1 21442774 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 561 A'S TEAM ALVIN DARK, MGR. Card
48 1 21442775 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 561 A'S TEAM ALVIN DARK, MGR. Card
49 1 21442776 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 565 JOE TORRE Card
50 1 21442777 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 568 DALE MURRAY Card
51 1 21442778 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 569 FRANK WHITE Card
52 1 21442779 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 569 FRANK WHITE Card
53 1 21442780 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 570 JIM WYNN Card
54 1 21442781 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 572 ROGER NELSON Card
55 1 21442782 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 572 ROGER NELSON Card
56 1 21442783 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 572 ROGER NELSON Card
57 1 21442784 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 576 PHIL ROOF Card
58 1 21442785 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 576 PHIL ROOF Card
59 1 21442786 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 576 PHIL ROOF Card
60 1 21442787 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 579 SKIP PITLOCK Card
61 1 21442788 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 579 SKIP PITLOCK Card
62 1 21442789 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 581 DARREL CHANEY Card
63 1 21442790 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 581 DARREL CHANEY Card
64 1 21442791 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 583 ANDY ETCHEBARREN Card
65 1 21442792 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 583 ANDY ETCHEBARREN Card
66 1 21442793 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 585 CHRIS CHAMBLISS Card
67 1 21442794 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 587 CHRIS WARD Card
68 1 21442795 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 589 BRAVES TEAM CLYDE KING, MGR. Card
69 1 21442796 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 590 CESAR CEDENO Card
70 1 21442797 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 590 CESAR CEDENO Card
71 1 21442798 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 591 GLENN ABBOTT Card
72 1 21442799 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 592 BALOR MOORE Card
73 1 21442800 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 593 GENE LAMONT Card
74 1 21442801 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 595 JOE NIEKRO Card
75 1 21442802 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 596 OLLIE BROWN Card
76 1 21442803 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 598 BRUCE KISON Card
77 1 21442804 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 598 BRUCE KISON Card
78 1 21442805 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 600 ROD CAREW Card
79 1 21442806 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 600 ROD CAREW Card
80 1 21442807 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 601 JUAN BENIQUEZ Card
81 1 21442808 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 603 LEW KRAUSSE Card
82 1 21442809 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 605 JOHN ELLIS Card
83 1 21442810 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 606 BRUCE MILLER Card
84 1 21442811 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 606 BRUCE MILLER Card
85 1 21442812 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 609 ELLIE HENDRICKS Card
86 1 21442813 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1975 TOPPS 614 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
87 1 21442814 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 614 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
88 1 21442815 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 615 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
89 1 21442816 N8: MISCUT 1975 TOPPS 616 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card
90 1 21442817 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 616 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card
91 1 21442818 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 617 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card
92 1 21442819 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 617 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card
93 1 21442820 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 618 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
94 1 21442821 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 620 ROOKIE CATCHERS- OUTFIELDERS Card
95 1 21442822 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 620 ROOKIE CATCHERS- OUTFIELDERS Card
96 1 21442823 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS 622 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS Card
97 1 21442824 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1975 TOPPS 623 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card
98 1 21442825 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1975 TOPPS 623 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card
99 1 21442826 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 624 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
100 1 21442827 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 624 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
101 1 21442828 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 625 BOOG POWELL Card
102 1 21442829 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 627 TOM WALKER Card
103 1 21442830 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 628 RON LeFLORE Card
104 1 21442831 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 629 JOE HOERNER Card
105 1 21442832 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 630 GREG LUZINSKI Card
106 1 21442833 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 632 MORRIS NETTLES Card
107 1 21442834 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 632 MORRIS NETTLES Card
108 1 21442835 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 636 CHARLIE MOORE Card
109 1 21442836 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 637 TED MARTINEZ Card
110 1 21442837 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 638 CUBS TEAM JIM MARSHALL, MGR. Card
111 1 21442838 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 638 CUBS TEAM JIM MARSHALL, MGR. Card
112 1 21442839 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 639 STEVE KLINE Card
113 1 21442840 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 640 HARMON KILLEBREW Card
114 1 21442841 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 640 HARMON KILLEBREW Card
115 1 21442842 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 641 JIM NORTHRUP Card
116 1 21442843 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS 644 BILL FAHEY Card
117 1 21442844 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 646 CHECKLIST 529-660 Card
118 1 21442845 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 649 JACK HEIDEMANN Card
119 1 21442846 N8: MISCUT 1975 TOPPS 655 RICO CARTY Card
120 1 21442847 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 656 BILL PLUMMER Card
121 1 21442848 EXCELLENT 5 1975 TOPPS 657 BOB OLIVER Card
122 1 21442849 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS 657 BOB OLIVER Card
123 1 21442850 NEAR MINT 7 1975 TOPPS 660 HANK AARON Card
I count 12 9s out of 123! Tons of 7s... These all came from the same 5 sets
Honestly guys I think I am done with collecting cards for a while - I might start back up 2014, I am so pissed...I am interested in Aquaphonics and growing Talapia. I just have to weigh and feed the fish not grade them.
<< <i>I think one big mistake submitters make is thinking that everything is predictable. Just because cards came from the same lot doesn't mean they will be consistent. Moreover, just because a submitter picked the cards doesn't mean they will be consistent either. Being tired one night, or perhaps having the light at a different angle, along with an infinite other variables, can cause one to simply mess-up. >>
Utterly brilliant with 100% consideration and clarity regarding the information posted above. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Perhaps having the light at a different angle is the excuse one uses to sell a complete repackaging set including 36 pieces of gum on ebay and selling it on Canadian ebay to hide from the US.
EDIT:
Lot 1: 190 cards and a total of 10 PSA 7s = 5%
Lot 2: 123 cards and a total of 32 PSA 7s = 27%
HOW? Shouldn't there be SOME level of consistency?
Again these came from 5 pristine sets I bought from REA and I believe a couple more NM/MT sets picked up around 2006-2008. The sets from REA were indeed pristine with 35 year old tape etc.
I know that Joe will read this and hope that he goes over all my submissions because he can tell who is who. I will contact him directly once I cool off.
resubmitting some of the better cards is a good idea Henry.
<< <i>Perhaps having the light at a different angle is the excuse one uses to sell a complete repackaging set including 36 pieces of gum on ebay and selling it on Canadian ebay to hide from the US. >>
Hmmm......I did not think of that one as a reason. lol!
aconte
Best of luck, personally I have not found PSA to be very responsive to entire sub complaints. I have contacted Joe about specific cards within a sub and gotten reviews and grade changes but never gotten any traction when I felt the entire sub was improperly graded.
Robb
True story: a guy I know has an insane collection. He was big into registry sets. He would often buy a 9 for his set GPA, but then he would keep a better-looking 8 that he liked more. I mean, what does that say about the grading game? I've seen many a centered 3 or 4 that I would take in a heartbeat over certain 5s or 6s or even 7s. That to me says so much about the grading game.
I remember my freshman year at college, I wrote a paper I was so proud of. It got a C+. I had the random luck of having to read that same book upon which the paper was based for another class. I knew it was a no-no but I handed in the very same paper to the other prof. He gave it an A. From that moment on I never sweated grades in life.
But back to cards, I really have found that once we free ourselves and our minds from focusing on the label and instead make it all about the card itself, that card-centric mindset leads to great happiness in collecting. End of day, I love to say, "Who cares what some grader thinks? This card looks great to me and I love it!" I'd bet the farm that some of those 8s could easily be 9s on another day. And if put up with great scans for auction there are discerning collectors out there who will set snipes almost commensurate with 9 prices for an 8 that deserves to be a 9. Same for any card that is undergraded. As a collector I think its key to not let those graders have so much power over our happiness, lol
<< <i>Henry I think your results are why so few people on this site submit large numbers of cards. The variance in grading with PSA can be astounding and infuriating. As frustrating as it is your best bet is to crack and re-sub. I would also post some detailed scans of those that seem most egregiously misgraded and see what people think. I have found that high resolution scans and the nitpicking that comes with them tend to show flaws that I might have otherwise overlooked or de-emphasized.
Best of luck, personally I have not found PSA to be very responsive to entire sub complaints. I have contacted Joe about specific cards within a sub and gotten reviews and grade changes but never gotten any traction when I felt the entire sub was improperly graded.
Robb >>
+1
I would second Robb's suggestion to post several cards that you feel were undergraded when you get the cards back. As Matty said, grading is definitely subjective even with the grading standards in place, and it's also possible that the first grader was more liberal with their grades which of course makes the second grader seem even tougher by comparison. We've all gotten subs back with cards we felt were undergraded, as well as cards we thought were generously graded, and if it were possible to simultaneously submit the same sub to two separate graders, the results would certainly confirm that. As Robb also suggested, I would recommend cracking out a few of the cards you feel were most seriously undergraded and resubmit them to see what upgrades you realize (if any). And as a rookie submitter, you will definitely gain valuable experience during that process, too. As a PSA collector, though, I would not be in favor of Joe reviewing or second-guessing the sub with an eye towards bumping some grades, as that kind of request seems closer to asking a special favor, imo, which is not what you want to see in the PSA grading process.
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<< <i>Hehe, yah Tim it is possible that my cards were given gifts by a grader rather than punished by the grader of death.
I'd definitely be interested in any of your dupe Mint 9 75 minis for my set, too, at least any that are already filled in your half a dozen registry sets, LOL.
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Fingers crossed again...
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Long live minis!
Schmidt9 560.00
Winfield9 449.00
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<< <i>Wow I got smoked on this one, Congrats to the winner - another hammer
Correllpsa10 >>
Just one bid increment and it would have been yours, Henry!
With prices like that, I think I may have to sell the few pop 2 10s I still have.
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Mini Cello Psa 10
Great companion piece for the mini collectors!!
Good luck grote!
aconte
463psa10 1230.00
607psa10 909.00
604psa10 898.00
anyone know who the winner was? r***b (531) that guy is on fire
Anyway... that was fun to follow and watch!
Edit: MMD: I didn't see you asking who r***b (531) too. I saw you picked up at least one. Congratulations!
I did however manage to pick up a PSA 9 Christenson #551 for a good price the other day, $115.
Edit to add: Thanks for the plug, Tony!
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<< <i>I'm just glad I won the Stottlemeyer, geez, LOL...
I did however manage to pick up a PSA 9 Christenson #551 for a good price the other day, $115.
Edit to add: Thanks for the plug, Tony! >>
That Stottlemeyer was a great pick-up Tim, I was going to go much higher...there are probably only around 8 legit 9s in existence, I know of 4 shorties
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2 1 17340477 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS MINI 170 BERT CAMPANERIS Card
Yes, it can be had.
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<< <i>Well, another year, another member freebie sub with six reviews and another year my Brett stays in a PSA 9 holder. For a change though, I did not go ofersix, but hit on a card I pulled from a pack myself and knew was better than a 9. This was actually the second review of it, so you have to stick to your guns. Tough card too:
2 1 17340477 GEM MINT 10 1975 TOPPS MINI 170 BERT CAMPANERIS Card
Yes, it can be had. >>
Nice work, Jim! Congrats!
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ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
Back is centered pretty nicely, too, about 65-35.
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355 1 21655759 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 335 JIM PALMER Card
357 1 21655761 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1975 TOPPS MINI 6 '74 HIGHLIGHTS MIKE MARSHALL Card
358 1 21655762 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 6 '74 HIGHLIGHTS MIKE MARSHALL Card
359 1 21655763 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 18 TIGERS TEAM RALPH HOUK, MGR. Card
365 1 21655769 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 104 BILL MADLOCK Card
366 1 21655770 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 173 STEVE ROGERS Card
368 1 21655772 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 224 RAMON HERNANDEZ Card
369 1 21655773 MINT 9 1975 TOPPS MINI 255 DWIGHT EVANS Card
370 1 21655774 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1975 TOPPS MINI 277 FRANK TAVERAS Card
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ROFL
That Tigers psa 9 mini is a great hit - almost all of those I have seen are shorties..it is probably now more difficult than the cubs team card in a full 9.
Nice Christianson Tim...very nice price, I think I just paid double that.
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That said, I would keep trying, Jim. Nice work on the Campy bump from 9 to 10, though!
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Tim nailed it. The card is nicer than the campy and if it were ken brett, it would have been in a 10 long ago. It is what it is, but I will keep trying every once in a while. Tempted to try and cross it into an sgc 98, then recross...
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We all have some amazing cards in our sets, this happens to be the rare case of having pack pulled and graded such a key card at that level. It's one thing to have a sub where you hit a bunch of low pop 9s and probably more financially rewarding, but from a personal standpoint, this and the PSA 10 Seaver I pulled and graded are more special than the rest.
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Yes, I saw that. I'm not sure what it means though for Mini cards individually. Unopened Mini wax packs have more than doubled in price over the last 1 or 2 years, but the prices on individual high grade cards have been largely flat with the exception being Brett and Ryan in an 8 or higher. I've noticed that those two in particular have surged upward 30 percent more in the last year.
Another interesting observation is that over the last year, it's getting harder and harder for me to find high grade raw mini's at local and regional card shows. Since last fall, I've found two low pop cards that I've received an 8 on. I pulled an 8 on a Blyleven and an 8 on a Chuck Taylor a couple of weeks ago. That's it. I've found a few high pop raw commons that I think would grade 8 or higher, but even these are getting harder to come by. So, what I have been doing is buying every high grade raw Mini I find at a show, regardless of its population. Most are not worth grading at this time, but I'm banking on their future value/rarity. I'm also buying all full sized green/yellows and red/yellows that I think will grade out at a 7 that I previously passed on - even these are getting hard to find at this grade level and full-sized at shows compared to the previous 5 or so years. I think even in 7, these will have decent value going forward, and I would even go so far as to say that for these color combos, 7 is the new 8.
MM - I noticed the Hill Collection earlier this past week. I have no idea who it is, but it will be fun to watch this set grow, and I hope it makes it to 100 percent. We've seen a couple of these high grade sets fizzle out at about 30-50 percent completion. It will be a challenge for them, no doubt. You have to have the passion for these cards to have the staying power to make it that far at that high a grade. And, it's only going to get tougher.
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