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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2019 8:18AM

    @lawyer05 said:
    can u send a non blurry picture

    This is the only image I can find of it. I don't own it , I was looking at it on Ebay. I think I figured it out. It is a yugoslavian chocolate company by the name of Zvecevg that made them I don't know what year, but there are also Jack Dempsey, and Floyd Patterson stickers/cards of the same series. I contacted the seller, but haven't heard back from him yet. Based on the back of the Dempsey sticker, I figured out a little bit about them.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is the Jack Dempsey card/sticker.

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭
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    ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @miwlvrn said:
    In case you're interested, here is the full checklist. I am certain about the year. There are many cards in the set with text on back where their content provide evidence of 1930 being accurate.

    1930 Xocolata Viladas Agramunt - Quien Es El Campeon Mundial?

    1 Header Card
    2 Harold Osborn (High Jump) U.S.A.
    3 Leo Goehring (Standing High Jump) U.S.A.
    4 Sylvio Cator (Long Jump) Haiti
    5 Anthony William "Nick" Winter (Triple Jump) Australia
    6 Sabin W. Carr (Pole Vault) U.S.A.
    7 John Kuck (Shot Put) U.S.A.
    8 Pat Ryan (Hammer Throw) U.S.A.
    9 Lemuel Clarence "Bud" Houser (Discus) U.S.A.
    10 Eino Penttila (Javelin) U.S.A.
    11 Frankie Genaro (Boxing) U.S.A.
    12 Panama Al Brown (Boxing) Panama
    13 Battling Battalino (Boxing) U.S.A.
    14 Sammy Mandell (Boxing) U.S.A.
    15 Jackie Fields (Boxing) U.S.A.
    16 Mickey Walker (Boxing) U.S.A.
    17 Tommy Loughran (Boxing) U.S.A.
    18 Max Schmeling (Boxing) Germany
    19 Charles Rigoulot (Weightlifting) France
    20 Charley Paddock (100m) U.S.A.
    21 Paavo Nurmi (300m) Finland
    22 Boughera El Ouafi (Marathon) France (Algeria)
    23 George Weightman-Smith (110m Hurdles) South Africa
    24 John Weissmuller (Swimming) U.S.A.
    25 Arne Borg (Swimming) Sweden
    26 Erich Rademacher (Swimming) Germany
    27 Pete Desjardins (Diving) U.S.A.
    28 Karl Bahre (Water Polo) Germany
    29 Rene Lacoste (Tennis) France
    30 Henri Cochet (Tennis) France
    31 Lucien Gaudin (Ojandin) (Fencing) France
    32 Lucien Michard (Cycling) France
    33 Georges Paillard (Cycling) France
    34 Georges Rousse (Cycling) Belgium
    35 Bert Barry (Rowing) England
    36 Sven Petersen (Petterson) (Ski Jumping) Norway
    37 Ernst Jakob Henne (Motorcycle Racing) Germany
    38 Sir Henry O'Neil de Hane Segrave (Auto Racing) England
    39 Augustus H. Orlebar (Aviation) England
    40 Dr. Hugo Eckener (Aviation (Zeppelin)) Germany
    41 Garfield Wood (Boat Racing) U.S.A.
    42 Alain Gerbault (Sailing) France

    I have a copy of the Loughran. I believe these can be found with multiple different chocolate companies' advertisements. I have in my notes that they're also an Amattler set, although I don't have an image saved. I'm not sure why I would have put down a second company without an image reference but the same set being used by multiple companies was pretty common in Spain in that period. I guess I would say it's possible but not definitive. A lot of my notes were taken with the understanding that I was going to be the only one that ever cared about any of this so evidence wasn't the top priority.

    Arthur

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can anyone explain why the back of these two 1937 Ardath Joe Louis cards are different?

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    LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    Can anyone explain why the back of these two 1937 Ardath Joe Louis cards are different?

    The text in the bottom 25% of the card.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LarkinCollector said:

    @doubledragon said:
    Can anyone explain why the back of these two 1937 Ardath Joe Louis cards are different?

    The text in the bottom 25% of the card.

    Why is the text missing on the bottom card? Is it a more rare version or something?

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    LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2019 9:42AM

    @doubledragon said:

    @LarkinCollector said:

    @doubledragon said:
    Can anyone explain why the back of these two 1937 Ardath Joe Louis cards are different?

    The text in the bottom 25% of the card.

    Why is the text missing on the bottom card? Is it a more rare version or something?

    The first you posted is 1938 Ardath, the second 1937 (as PSA recognizes them).

    ETA: The 1937 are slightly more scarce (for the player I collect in both at least), but neither are very difficult.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LarkinCollector said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @LarkinCollector said:

    @doubledragon said:
    Can anyone explain why the back of these two 1937 Ardath Joe Louis cards are different?

    The text in the bottom 25% of the card.

    Why is the text missing on the bottom card? Is it a more rare version or something?

    The first you posted is 1938 Ardath, the second 1937 (as PSA recognizes them).

    ETA: The 1937 are slightly more scarce (for the player I collect in both at least), but neither are very difficult.

    Ok, thanks.

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    Boxing Gurus, have you seen this one and what is called ?

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    @ReggieCleveland said:

    @miwlvrn said:
    In case you're interested, here is the full checklist. I am certain about the year. There are many cards in the set with text on back where their content provide evidence of 1930 being accurate.

    1930 Xocolata Viladas Agramunt - Quien Es El Campeon Mundial?

    1 Header Card
    2 Harold Osborn (High Jump) U.S.A.
    3 Leo Goehring (Standing High Jump) U.S.A.
    4 Sylvio Cator (Long Jump) Haiti
    5 Anthony William "Nick" Winter (Triple Jump) Australia
    6 Sabin W. Carr (Pole Vault) U.S.A.
    7 John Kuck (Shot Put) U.S.A.
    8 Pat Ryan (Hammer Throw) U.S.A.
    9 Lemuel Clarence "Bud" Houser (Discus) U.S.A.
    10 Eino Penttila (Javelin) U.S.A.
    11 Frankie Genaro (Boxing) U.S.A.
    12 Panama Al Brown (Boxing) Panama
    13 Battling Battalino (Boxing) U.S.A.
    14 Sammy Mandell (Boxing) U.S.A.
    15 Jackie Fields (Boxing) U.S.A.
    16 Mickey Walker (Boxing) U.S.A.
    17 Tommy Loughran (Boxing) U.S.A.
    18 Max Schmeling (Boxing) Germany
    19 Charles Rigoulot (Weightlifting) France
    20 Charley Paddock (100m) U.S.A.
    21 Paavo Nurmi (300m) Finland
    22 Boughera El Ouafi (Marathon) France (Algeria)
    23 George Weightman-Smith (110m Hurdles) South Africa
    24 John Weissmuller (Swimming) U.S.A.
    25 Arne Borg (Swimming) Sweden
    26 Erich Rademacher (Swimming) Germany
    27 Pete Desjardins (Diving) U.S.A.
    28 Karl Bahre (Water Polo) Germany
    29 Rene Lacoste (Tennis) France
    30 Henri Cochet (Tennis) France
    31 Lucien Gaudin (Ojandin) (Fencing) France
    32 Lucien Michard (Cycling) France
    33 Georges Paillard (Cycling) France
    34 Georges Rousse (Cycling) Belgium
    35 Bert Barry (Rowing) England
    36 Sven Petersen (Petterson) (Ski Jumping) Norway
    37 Ernst Jakob Henne (Motorcycle Racing) Germany
    38 Sir Henry O'Neil de Hane Segrave (Auto Racing) England
    39 Augustus H. Orlebar (Aviation) England
    40 Dr. Hugo Eckener (Aviation (Zeppelin)) Germany
    41 Garfield Wood (Boat Racing) U.S.A.
    42 Alain Gerbault (Sailing) France

    I have a copy of the Loughran. I believe these can be found with multiple different chocolate companies' advertisements. I have in my notes that they're also an Amattler set, although I don't have an image saved. I'm not sure why I would have put down a second company without an image reference but the same set being used by multiple companies was pretty common in Spain in that period. I guess I would say it's possible but not definitive. A lot of my notes were taken with the understanding that I was going to be the only one that ever cared about any of this so evidence wasn't the top priority.

    Arthur

    there is always someone else that cares

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lawyer05 said:

    Boxing Gurus, have you seen this one and what is called ?

    I believe that seres is the 1941 editorial valenciana. I have been looking for a Joe Louis in that same series. Todocollecion has some of that series on their site I believe.

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    Th> @doubledragon said:

    @lawyer05 said:

    Boxing Gurus, have you seen this one and what is called ?

    I believe that seres is the 1941 editorial valenciana. I have been looking for a Joe Louis in that same series. Todocollecion has some of that series on their site I believe.

    Thank you

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    ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @lawyer05 said:

    Boxing Gurus, have you seen this one and what is called ?

    I believe that seres is the 1941 editorial valenciana. I have been looking for a Joe Louis in that same series. Todocollecion has some of that series on their site I believe.

    I'd be willing to listen to offers.

    Arthur

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    PROMETHIUS88PROMETHIUS88 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Finally worked out the deal for these 48 Leaf. Think I'm just going to send them in a before the Quarterly special is over.... except for the Conn.






    Promethius881969@yahoo.com
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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ReggieCleveland said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @lawyer05 said:

    Boxing Gurus, have you seen this one and what is called ?

    I believe that seres is the 1941 editorial valenciana. I have been looking for a Joe Louis in that same series. Todocollecion has some of that series on their site I believe.

    I'd be willing to listen to offers.

    Arthur

    I'm going to have to wait until next month for that one. I've got to let my budget catch back up to me. I'll let you know when.

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:

    @ReggieCleveland said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @lawyer05 said:

    Boxing Gurus, have you seen this one and what is called ?

    I believe that seres is the 1941 editorial valenciana. I have been looking for a Joe Louis in that same series. Todocollecion has some of that series on their site I believe.

    I'd be willing to listen to offers.

    Arthur

    I'm going to have to wait until next month for that one. I've got to let my budget catch back up to me. I'll let you know when.

    @doubledragon said:

    @ReggieCleveland said:

    @doubledragon said:

    @lawyer05 said:

    Boxing Gurus, have you seen this one and what is called ?

    I believe that seres is the 1941 editorial valenciana. I have been looking for a Joe Louis in that same series. Todocollecion has some of that series on their site I believe.

    I'd be willing to listen to offers.

    Arthur

    I'm going to have to wait until next month for that one. I've got to let my budget catch back up to me. I'll let you know when.

    al brown looks meaner ;)

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Right now, I'm trying to find a 1993 Ritchie and co. Joe Louis card. It's my main focus. With my budget stretched, I have to save all of my ammo for the Ritchie and co. if I can find it. If anyone knows where to find it, please let me know. It's a 1993 Ritchie and Co. Joe Louis.

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    Right now, I'm trying to find a 1993 Ritchie and co. Joe Louis card. It's my main focus. With my budget stretched, I have to save all of my ammo for the Ritchie and co. if I can find it. If anyone knows where to find it, please let me know. It's a 1993 Ritchie and Co. Joe Louis.

    you just said you were looking for a 1941 Valencia...

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    PROMETHIUS88PROMETHIUS88 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    Right now, I'm trying to find a 1993 Ritchie and co. Joe Louis card. It's my main focus. With my budget stretched, I have to save all of my ammo for the Ritchie and co. if I can find it. If anyone knows where to find it, please let me know. It's a 1993 Ritchie and Co. Joe Louis.

    Soooo, you looking for a Ritchie and Co. Joe Louis? Just want to be clear.

    Promethius881969@yahoo.com
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    krisd3279krisd3279 Posts: 808 ✭✭✭✭

    Kris

    My 1971 Topps adventure - Davis Men in Black

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    With my budget stretched, I have to save my funds in case I run across a Ritchie and Co. Joe Louis. I can wait for the editorial valenciana.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's what it looks like. Bottom row, far left.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This Ritchie and Co. White Whale torments me.

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    is there a roberto duran 1993 ritchie?

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lawyer05 said:
    is there a roberto duran 1993 ritchie?

    There might be, I'm not sure. I know there are ritchie and co. cards made of Ali, Holyfield, Hearns, Hagler, and Sugar Ray Leonard.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2019 1:16PM

    Some of the ritchie and co. boxing cards are included in the 1996 ritchie and co. global greats series I think, Hearns, Holyfield, Leonard, and Hagler.

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    thanks, no longer grading ? WHHHHHHHY not lmao

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lawyer05 said:
    thanks, no longer grading ? WHHHHHHHY not lmao

    There was a big scandal over the ritchie and co. cards. They no longer make them. A South Wales police officer, and an accountant got in trouble for making them.

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    LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LarkinCollector said:
    Courtesy of Bill over @ http://www.copcards.co.uk/

    Yep, that's it.

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    thank you, after seeing this article, i would rather have the 1941 Valencia ...

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    i need an al brown famous boxers.... thanks

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These are some of the Joe Louis cards I have managed to get in the past year.

    1939 Timaru Milling

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1969 Shindana toys

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1950 Omnia Sport

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1953 A&J Donaldson

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1935 Amalgamated Press

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1996 Japan World boxing uncut sheet

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    lawyer05lawyer05 Posts: 2,132 ✭✭✭✭

    who is this Joe Louis character .....

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2010 Ringside gold parallel 1/10

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1990 Phoenix boxing greats

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2002 JF sported limited to 30 copies made.

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1945 autographs game card

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1939 African Tobacco

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2002 Rockwell

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1954 C.H. Knorr-Louis vs Schmeling

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    doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 23,058 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 25, 2019 4:18PM

    It's been a pretty good year. All of the above are pretty hard to track down, but I managed to locate them eventually.

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