OMG my stolen PR70 IKEs are on Heritage right now..

psxchelly

ugh, I spoke to these people about a week after my robbery, and they said they would certainly help me and keep my coins on their "list".. whatever that was. Apparently there is no list. I just called them, and they are acting like they dont want to cooperate... omg. this is incredible.

-Michelle

coinkid855

What!!?? Call the police or something!




-Paul

kimber45ACP

What are the lot numbers?

STONE

<< <i>What!!?? Call the police or something! >>


DUH!

But make sure you have some sort of proof of ownership and something in writing, such as an email to Heritage, with the cert numbers, etc!

Tdec1000

Oh my gosh!! I hope everything works out for you!

BigE

I think you are real lucky that they ended up at Heritage, and that you found them----------------------BigE

richardshipp

<< <i>I think you are real lucky that they ended up at Heritage, and that you found them----------------------BigE >>



That's what I was thinking. Call HA back and let them know again and hopefully you can fax them a copy of the police report which includes the cert numbers.

johnny9434

<< <i>I think you are real lucky that they ended up at Heritage, and that you found them----------------------BigE >>



no kidding and call heritage and the authorities

psxchelly

yepps, called the police AND Heritage this morning. The Heritage person who answered the phone surprisingly didnt seem to anxious to help. He kept putting me on hold. He didnt even want to right down the Lot #'s. He asked me to email him the list I provided to the police (which i just did).

I already told HA that if they sell my coins, I am getting a lawyer to sue them, because they are stolen, and the person who consigned them has no right to do that.

What is even more upsetting / surprising, is that I called HA back when my stuff was originally stolen. They assured me that they keep a list of stolen items, and they could contact the police. I guess they dont.

-Michelle

crazyhounddog

<< <i>

<< <i>I think you are real lucky that they ended up at Heritage, and that you found them----------------------BigE >>



That's what I was thinking. Call HA back and let them know again and hopefully you can fax them a copy of the police report which includes the cert numbers. >>



I agree, DO IT NOW!!!!

keyman64

Holey Cow! Keep us in the loop...very anxious to hear a happy ending of you getting your stuff back ASAP! Good luck!

STONE

Hopefully in the meantime HA is running through all their records to find the consignment form, find the consignee, followed by contacting the authorities. This is the process I would do if running a business such as Heritage.

If you only just noticed and only just contacted Heritage, give them an hour or two to do their end of the homework to verify your claim.
HA has always been good to me and many other collectors/dealers I know, so I believe they will do their best to rectify the situation.

At least you know where the coins are, and that they aren't going anywhere right now!

airplanenut

I would try to speak with someone in the higher-ups, not just the person who first answers. This is a scenario that will likely require someone with decision-making power, so cut out the middle-man. As far as the cert numbers go, Heritage can't possibly check every cert every time. I don't know what the time span is here, but I'd have to think that after some amount of time, they have to take numbers off the list or else they'd eventually end up with a list far too large to consistently check.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

If it is actually the thief who consigned them, he is an absolute idiot.

bfamilycoin

Link

TomB

I just called Todd Imhoff about these coins.

jessewvu

I probably would not have posted anything here until the issue was resolved. I bet there are people covering their tracks real good right now.

psxchelly

So far I have found these coins that belong to me;

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1147&Lot_No=4061
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1147&Lot_No=4060
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=1147&Lot_No=4059

Wow, HA just called me back, they *really* don't want to take the coins down off their auction site. I *never* in a million years expected this much lack of cooperation from them. I am waiting for the other detective to get in to work for the day, so he can call HA. HA doesn't seem to want to call the police department themselves, ugh.

-jessewvu
They (HA, and whoever else) can cover their tracks all they want... I don't care. All I want is my stuff back. It took me over 10 years to get that stuff and it was a complete heartbreak when they were gone. It was such a heartbreak I even decided I may not collect coins anymore. Just on a whim I logged on HA to see what was for sale and saw my stuff.

Bochiman

Gotta love this forum! WTG TomB!
Michelle, best of luck getting them back (I think you will since this is heritage)! Sorry for the stresses that continue on this.

BigE

looks like they are selling pretty good, maybe you can just take the $$---------------BigE

bfamilycoin

How did the coins get stolen again?

mkman123

keep us updated! This is bad publicity for HA if they indeed are screwing you over!

joebb21

original link to when coins were stolen

MikeInFL

<< <i>I just called Todd Imhoff about these coins. >>



That was my first thought too. Did you speak to Todd? What did he say?

Bossman88

I just sent this to HA via email.

These coins have been reported as stolen on the PCGS US Coin Forum. Please remove them from your auctions ASAP.
PCGS
11374735 PR70DC Eisenhower Dollar - Silver Bicentennial 1976-S $1 Silver
04014307 PR70DC Eisenhower Dollar - Clad 1978-S $1
07732929 PR70DC Eisenhower Dollar - Silver 1972-S $1

Regards, Larry

segoja

If they don't pull those coins, I'll be very hesitant to do future business with them.

Tdec1000

Why did you change/edit the OP??? Just to add the bi metal plat commem?

notwilight

The only thing that makes sense to me is that the consignor to heritage has what appears to be a legitimate right of ownership of the coins. The original thread did not have many details. Is the disputed ownership of these coins the result of a domestic dipute or breakup?

--Jerry

RWB

The slab numbers should be on the police report from July. That will establish ownership. Heritage will then have to disclose to the police the name and address of the consignor.

robec

<< <i>Why did you change/edit the OP??? Just to add the bi metal plat commem? >>



On the plus side is that it was edited during the first day the thread was created, July 10.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

You can be absolutely sure Heritage will make the proper move here. Just give it a little bit of time.

To pull the lots at the whim of your first phone call to them would have been irresponsible on their part. I'm sure once they receive the proper evidence the lots will be removed.

crazyhounddog

<< <i>You can be absolutely sure Heritage will make the proper move here. Just give it a little bit of time.

To pull the lots at the whim of your first phone call to them would have been irresponsible on their part. I'm sure once they receive the proper evidence the lots will be removed. >>



I agree 100%. Heritage "will" do the right thing, rest assured....

Batman23

<< <i>

<< <i>Why did you change/edit the OP??? Just to add the bi metal plat commem? >>



On the plus side is that it was edited during the first day the thread was created, July 10. >>



That makes it all good, it was well before the Heritage listing.

claychaser

This is actually very good news for you. The coins are not ruined and they are in the hands of a very upright and major company. I trust that the result will be that you will get your coins back, and the police now have a trail back to the people involved.

Coinosaurus

<< <i>ugh, I spoke to these people about a week after my robbery, and they said they would certainly help me and keep my coins on their "list".. whatever that was. Apparently there is no list. I just called them, and they are acting like they dont want to cooperate... omg. this is incredible.
>>



I have no doubt HA will do the right thing.

This reminds me about the time an auction company mistakenly sent me another bidder's lots by mistake. When I talked to them, they seemed mildly irritated and acted like it was *my* problem to deal with. I should have just kept the d*** lots and told them they could come to my house to personally sign for them.

fc

i am going to guess a coin store bought everything and put the choice material
up for auction. hopefully this coin store keeps a record of who they buy from and
it can all be traced back.

but we will have one very upset coin store who will be out some money... but heh,
i doubt too much as coin stores like their rips ;-)

19Lyds

OMG! I've been watching and bidding on those very coins!

I will bet even money that the burglar/robber sold the coins and the purchaser, either first or second generation, has consigned them to Heritage.

I hope this turns out well for psxchelly but it most assuradly will not turn out well for Heritage or the consignor.

As for Heritage not spotting these as stolen even though they were advised, as I stated, I read the original post but it never dawned on me that the coins I was bidding on were stolen.

I don't have any answers as a stolen coin list of cert numbers needs updating, when they have been recovered or accounted for, and just like spell chekker, needs to be utilized on a regular basis.

MsMorrisine

Heritage better become proactive or their esteem will surely suffer.

swhuck

On it. I'm staring at Bossman's e-mail right now.

ProofCents

I bet they gave the consigner an advance which is why they don't want to take down the items. Just a theory.

jhdfla

<< <i>On it. I'm staring at Bossman's e-mail right now. >>

hiijacker

Wish you luck!

I am still hoping my stolen coin turns up one day.

segoja

Senior folks at Heritage are now aware.

It will be handled properly.

Glad this appears to have worked out. When I saw your original thread, I figured those coins would have been cracked out and sold for nothing. Someone knew what they were doing, and I hope they get thier just payback.

notwilight

<< <i>Heritage better become proactive or their esteem will surely suffer. >>



This auction isn't ending this afternoon. They have time to research it and understand all the facts and take the appropriate actions. It's not like a BIN on ebay. --Jerry

psxchelly

Thank you everyone for your kind words and your support.... I sincerely appreciate it.

-Michelle

BBN

<< <i>On it. I'm staring at Bossman's e-mail right now. >>



awesome!

Windycity

My experience with Heritage also suggest they will do the right thing. Just feel badly for whatever dealer bought the stolen goods... likely unaware they were stolen and now likely out the $$$$.

DorkGirl

Hope there is a paper trail right back to the thieves.

swhuck

The coins are being pulled from the auction as I write this. Thank you to everyone who brought this to our attention.

illini420

Wow, you're very lucky the consignor or someone before them didn't decide to send the coins into PCGS for a Secure Plus regrading as the coins would have been reslabbed with entirely different certification numbers. This here is a great reason PCGS should always keep the same certification number on all regrades!

kimber45ACP

Stewart