OFFICIAL Roberto Clemente Master Set thread
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Hello,
My name is Howard Chasser - I also go under - "A Few of My favorite Things" and ebay - "favorite_things". In reviewing the numeric ranking of the Clemente master set, I think there are some glaring errors. Having bought, sold, traded, and collected Clemente cards and memorabilia for over 20 years - I would like to propose that a group of master set holders review a proposed numeric ranking that we could submit as a unified group to PSA for consideration. Your thoughts are appreciated. I am working on a draft of the proposal which will soon be ready for your input/comments.
-Howard
PS. I am DESPERATELY looking for a complete 1960 Bazooka box with Clemente. I would offer $3000 for the box in nm condition. I would be willing to buy a complete box set if needed. I would also pay a finders fee of $300 if someone connected me with the owner of one that I ultimately purchased from said owner. I would also offer $40 for a color scan of the front and back of one that might be owned, but not for sale.
Also looking for a 1962 Dapper Dan dinner program with Clemente cover and 1960 Harmony Milk 8 X 10
My name is Howard Chasser - I also go under - "A Few of My favorite Things" and ebay - "favorite_things". In reviewing the numeric ranking of the Clemente master set, I think there are some glaring errors. Having bought, sold, traded, and collected Clemente cards and memorabilia for over 20 years - I would like to propose that a group of master set holders review a proposed numeric ranking that we could submit as a unified group to PSA for consideration. Your thoughts are appreciated. I am working on a draft of the proposal which will soon be ready for your input/comments.
-Howard
PS. I am DESPERATELY looking for a complete 1960 Bazooka box with Clemente. I would offer $3000 for the box in nm condition. I would be willing to buy a complete box set if needed. I would also pay a finders fee of $300 if someone connected me with the owner of one that I ultimately purchased from said owner. I would also offer $40 for a color scan of the front and back of one that might be owned, but not for sale.
Also looking for a 1962 Dapper Dan dinner program with Clemente cover and 1960 Harmony Milk 8 X 10
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Scott
Always plenty of PSA-graded cards in my ebay store -- https://ebay.com/str/thelumbercompanysportscards
he has everything. When he does just send the 40 to my Paypal account becasue Bob doesn't need the money
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
the #1 Master set....Andy.....
He probably can provide you with some insight into tough Clemente cards!
Tony
KalineFan
<< <i>I believe I asked Bob and he said he didn't have one. >>
You did and he doesn't. Two sets of panels....no boxes........I suck.
bobsbbcards SGC Registry Sets
-Bob, You certainly do not suck! What I know of your collection is an amazing collection - ya just can't have everything :-(
-Scott - my PM is turned on
-Mikeschmidt - VERY rare! If Bob has no boxes and 2 sets of panels, that says a lot. I have owned 2 boxes - no Clemente - I'm kinda sorry I sold them now. The panels while not common are in a different class than the boxes. Do you have some or know someone who does? Pm me.
You suck lol
Just kidding
ON ITS WAY TO NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92658
-Howard
I am open to making some changes to the Master set but you will want to contact Andy "Boy from Monessen" and Chris Mandell too. I would not feel comfortable making any change they were not ok with.
On the 1960 Bazooka Box, I have never seen one in 5 years of looking, lots of panels no boxes.
Good luck on your set!
Scott
-Howard
Scott
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1) 1969 Milton Bradley Panel - How is this different from a bazooka panel or 68 atlantic oil? Should be left in.
2) 1968 Action all star panel - PSA left one and deleted the other??? Too bad they don't grade the complete 3 panel panels! As they don't both of the single panels should be in.
3) 1969 Stamp panel of 4 - YAY! SHould be gone. The single and if they ever grade the full 12 stamp sheets should be included. There are actually 3 (4 if you include one that was cut incorrectly - it has 2 Clemente stamps on the same sheet!) different 12 stamp sheets that include Clemente.
4) 1968 Plak Checklist? Gone- now it's back!?
5) 1967 Disc - optional?? One of the hardest Test issues that seperates the men from the boys and it's excluded?????????
6) 1970 Square cut super blank back proof - As no other "proofs" are included/allowed (or even graded for that matter- how did these slip through). Good call.
Did I miss any?
It leaves me with a lack of confidence in the system when the rule makers are clearly not informed enough about many of these issues nor humble enough to reach out to those who have the knowledge.
I have a 1955 Topps Clemente graded a PSA 8oc. The centering is not one that is hard on the eyes but it is 25/75 left to right. My question is what is the value of this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Shane
Can you post a scan? That would be helpful.
-Howard
I just bought a complete set in Heritage Auctions last Thursday that had a very nice PSA 8 Koufax and 8oc Clemente. If you would not mind checking www.ha.com and pull up the auction to give me your advice. I know that some can somehow post a scan of another on the message board for others to view. If you know how to do this, I would really appreciate it.
Shane
I don't do much with his regular issue cards, so I am not as familiar as with some of the odd, insert, regional and test stuff. That said, my estimate would be in the $700-$1000 range. On the upside - the centering isn't as bad as it can be sometimes, on the downside - the corners as best I can tell from the heritage scan leads me to believe that the 8 was very generous. Anyone else want to weigh in? Hope that helps.
-Howard
Thanks to whomever got this done.
Scott
Always plenty of PSA-graded cards in my ebay store -- https://ebay.com/str/thelumbercompanysportscards
-Howard
1) 1969 Milton Bradley Panel - Left out
2) 1968 Action all star panel - Both should be in
3) 1969 Stamp panel of 4 - YES- Should be GONE. The single and if they ever grade the full 12 stamp sheets should be included. Agree!!!
4) 1968 Plak Checklist? Needs to be in set!
5) 1967 Disc - optional?? Should be in
6) 1970 Square cut super blank back proof - I am open, there was a number of these so its an atttainable card. My preference would be to include.
Hope to work on the list soon.
1969 Topps PSA 8
1972 Topps PSA 8
Scans and prices are on the first page of the BST boards. Very nice centered copies of all the above.
Clemente Peel-off Auction
I researched this a while back and learned that neither variation is particularly tougher than the other, i.e., print runs were about equal.
That said, I doubt the current example for auction is a true 1 of 1 but it certainly is tough in PSA 9 (as there are only 5 total in the pop report of any variety).
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Nabisco team flakes wide border and narrow border
1967 Dexter Team and all star
Post cereal tint variations
Salada 180 back
1968 3-d blank back/printed back
1969 stamps - 3 different full sheet variations
Kellogs print variations
-Howard
We're now up to an even 200.
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saw this thread on the front page and figured I'd interrupt
I remembered making this "card that never was" back when I was
on another forum, and thought some here might like to check it out.
It's a 1971 Topps Greatest Moments tribute to Clemente....
Here are some of my recent pick ups.
1971 Milk Duds
1972 Kelloggs
1965 Topps Embossed
Just picked this one up last week;
Always plenty of PSA-graded cards in my ebay store -- https://ebay.com/str/thelumbercompanysportscards
BTW Scott, my stuff should be coming out of storage by July ;-) Start saving now.
<< <i>This is one of my favorite Clemente cards. It is tough to find in high grade. >>
That's a tough card to find period. That's a great looking card. I love the cartoon look. Thanks for sharing
Here's my newest pick up. Thanks to Bob "Oaksey25" How is this only a 5?
<< <i>That's a tough card to find period. That's a great looking card. I love the cartoon look. Thanks for sharing >>
I had a small find of these cards around 10 years ago. As for this Clemente card, I had graded the only PSA 9 and PSA 9 OC and 5 out of the 7 PSA 8's. I sold a PSA 8 a few years ago for $500. I do not think most people know how rare this card and the other high numbers from this set really are. I still have the PSA 9 and 4 PSA 8's but the PSA 9 and 3 PSA 8's are locked up in registry sets. This one and I also have a PSA 7 are my only extras. Probably should send this card in for a review and see if I can get a bump on the grade.
Is that a 5 because of the lack of dotted lines? Whatever is going on, it's a really nice looking card.
<< <i>Is that a 5 because of the lack of dotted lines? Whatever is going on, it's a really nice looking card >>
GDM67, I have know idea what it's a 5. I'm not sure about the lack of dotted lines. Thanks again, it is a nice looking card.
1973 ALLIED PRINTING CLEMENTE MEMORIAL POSTCARD ROBERTO CLEMENTE
I just dont feel a memorial card should ever be included in a player set, these are supposed to be card issued when he was alive and playing.
What do you all think?
<< <i>I just dont feel a memorial card should ever be included in a player set, these are supposed to be card issued when he was alive and playing. >>
I agree it doesn't belong.
Here's another question - how does everyone feel about the Topps Disc "optional" status?
-Howard
What do you all think?
If memory serves, the logic behind including "the year following the last playing year" was to include final career stats.
IMO, if the card does not fit that purpose, it should not be included.
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