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  • 3000 !!!!
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    3000!

    Anyone know the FS pop on these babies?
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS 3 graded, all 3 MS70
    407405
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  • stckplungestckplunge Posts: 469 ✭✭
    Who here thinks I will get a shipment email from the mint tonight? Order number 3083XXXX and 3084xxxx (nearly consecutive orders).

    JC
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    tonight or tomorrow night

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,914 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>PCGS 3 graded, all 3 MS70
    407405 >>



    Someone had told me they got a 69..... must not be in the pops yet
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never encountered this before with a new coin going for grading.


    I'm really fighting over this.


    I want to submit it for grading, but I'm uncomfortable with the grease on it.

    everything I read says don't clean it and some are in the field.

    on the other hand they are small bits of grease.


    I think the silence so far on the issue is my clue.

    what effect would not cleaning it have on the grade vs. cleaning it and screwing it up vs. cleaning it off ?


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  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478
    I would be very careful about cleaning a 24 karat gold coin, it is probably not a good idea at all.
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • Not sure but i think PCGS will clean it up before slabbing it. If your sure it's just grease,give PCGS a call and see how they handle it.


  • << <i>I've never encountered this before with a new coin going for grading.


    I'm really fighting over this.


    I want to submit it for grading, but I'm uncomfortable with the grease on it.

    everything I read says don't clean it and some are in the field.

    on the other hand they are small bits of grease.


    I think the silence so far on the issue is my clue.

    what effect would not cleaning it have on the grade vs. cleaning it and screwing it up vs. cleaning it off ? >>




    If you can't blow it off, do not attempt to clean it unless you know the exact nature of the foreign substance.

    I would send it to PCGS; they will take care of it. Roll the dice; I do believe you will be fine.
  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭
    I am sick.

    I got one first 15 minutes, not here yet.

    I got my boss and sister to get one hours later, they both have theirs.

    I can't stand it! Well at least they can flip them. Wait I mean I can do the work and they can get the profit!

    C'mon mint gimme me gold!
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  • I can't take it anymore.

    I would jump out my window, but there is only one floor.




    UPDATE

    I just got confirmation again regarding the big push to finish shipping virtually all the UHRs in stock by this Friday.

    It really looks like it's do or die.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,974 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not sure but i think PCGS will clean it up before slabbing it. If your sure it's just grease,give PCGS a call and see how they handle it. >>




    I don't think they want to take the risk.


    I'm thinking no grade - environmental damage => waste of money & miss FS


    :/
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  • MilesWaitsMilesWaits Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got mine today in the POB; off to PCGS she goes....30827****...........!!


    Miles
    Now riding the swell in PM's and surf.
  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    2nd of 4 through the courtesy of a friend got a shipping notification email from late last night (shipped 3/3) but the UPS tracking does not have a record of the parcel. image
    trozau (troy ounce gold)
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220
    View this senerio.. I just received a PCGS UHR first strike MS 68 what kind of value should I get for this? Only 56 first strike coins made the deadline and it's the only ms 68 1st strike.

    Theory?


  • << <i>

    << <i>Not sure but i think PCGS will clean it up before slabbing it. If your sure it's just grease,give PCGS a call and see how they handle it. >>




    I don't think they want to take the risk.


    I'm thinking no grade - environmental damage => waste of money & miss FS


    :/ >>





    I may be wrong, but I do not believe a foreign substance, unattached or otherwise not affecting the integrity of the coin, will have any affect on the grade of that coin.

    Call PCGS, but do not summarily dismiss the opportunity to obtain the appropriate grading and designation.


  • YAHA

    I'll buy it for $1400.


  • << <i>View this senerio.. I just received a PCGS UHR first strike MS 68 what kind of value should I get for this? Only 56 first strike coins made the deadline and it's the only ms 68 1st strike.

    Theory? >>



    I thought the deadline was March 11th, is that not the case?
    "If you hit a midget on the head with a stick, he turns into 40 gold coins." - Patty Oswalt
  • YaHaYaHa Posts: 4,220


    << <i>YAHA

    I'll buy it for $1400. >>




    I guess breaking even won't be bad.. $1,200 for the coin, shipping to PCGS, all the grading fees, and shipping back to me, will net me $50.. Hell that's a movie, large Popcorn, soda and a small bag of skittles.image


  • << <i>

    << <i>View this senerio.. I just received a PCGS UHR first strike MS 68 what kind of value should I get for this? Only 56 first strike coins made the deadline and it's the only ms 68 1st strike.

    Theory? >>



    I thought the deadline was March 11th, is that not the case? >>



    It's just a scenario. You have to pretend. Like, right now, I'm pretending that I'm gonna get my friggin UHR from the friggin Mint!!!

    imageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimageimage


  • << <i>

    << <i>YAHA

    I'll buy it for $1400. >>




    I guess breaking even won't be bad.. $1,200 for the coin, shipping to PCGS, all the grading fees, and shipping back to me, will net me $50.. Hell that's a movie, large Popcorn, soda and a small bag of skittles.image >>




    These are different times my friend. You must share the wealth. Get used to it. image
  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,914 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>View this senerio.. I just received a PCGS UHR first strike MS 68 what kind of value should I get for this? Only 56 first strike coins made the deadline and it's the only ms 68 1st strike.

    Theory? >>



    I think you will see more of these 68's before the deadline.
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  • UPS tracking still says could not locate details, bummer, looks like it will be tomorrow for delivery, darn it dang it dog it, I was really really really hoping it would come today. It was going to be a candle light dinner with just me and my UHR
  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I get the same from UPS tracking on mine, too. I don't think they update the system until a big batch run later in the day. My UPS tracking numbers have never posted until the evenings in the past. I'm still expecting my UHR to be delivered tomorrow. I'll be waiting out front, ready to catch it when Big Brown throws it over the gate...image
  • BarcatBarcat Posts: 195 ✭✭
    I was trying to track my UHR with UPS and i could not find it. You will never believe this. I went into USPS and i am tracking it. It was in Indy at 1:15 AM. Why USPS?
    I just got off the telephone with the mint. I have it expedited on my order and they sent it out USPS. The lady does not know why. She says it should have been shipped like all the others. Mine is the only one that she knows of being shipped out USPS. I will probably get it within 7 to 10 days. Why did i know that making all those calls and sending all those faxes would come back and kick me in the Arrrs?
    imageimageimageimage

    Then they asked me to take their survey.
    Carolyn
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,960 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I was trying to track my UHR with UPS and i could not find it. You will never believe this. I went into USPS and i am tracking it. It was in Indy at 1:15 AM. Why USPS?
    I just got off the telephone with the mint. I have it expedited on my order and they sent it out USPS. The lady does not know why. She says it should have been shipped like all the others. Mine is the only one that she knows of being shipped out USPS. I will probably get it within 7 to 10 days. Why did i know that making all those calls and sending all those faxes would come back and kick me in the Arrrs?
    imageimageimageimage

    Then they asked me to take their survey. >>



    Is it going to a P.O. Box?

    That is the only way I know of where they would ship it USPS.
  • An interesting update to a survey conducted on goldandsilverblog.com, enjoy:

    Wednesday, March 4, 2009
    More UHR Double Eagles Arriving
    Posted by: Michael | Posted in: Ultra High Relief , US Mint

    More collectors are reporting that their 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coins have arrived or are shipping. This now includes collectors who placed the orders on the first day of sales.

    Although the US Mint has stated that orders would be shipped on a "first-come, first-served" basis, it's still not clear whether there is any rhyme or reason to their shipping. Over the weekend, I wrote a post regarding the order of shipments and included a survey to try to determine which customers were receiving their coins. I closed the survey this morning and present the results below.

    Total Received Coin Percent
    Ordered in the first hour 245 20 8.16%

    Ordered after the first hour, but in first day 163 7 4.29%

    Ordered on the second day 23 13 56.52%

    Ordered after the second day 30 10 33.33%


    Dates Coin Received
    Ordered in the first hour 2/9, 2/11, 2/25, 2/26, 2/27, 3/2 (5), 3/3 (9)
    Ordered after the first hour, but in first day 2/25 (3), 2/26, 2/27 (2), 3/3
    Ordered on the second day 2/25, 2/26, 2/27 (6), 2/28, 3/2
    Ordered after the second day 2/27 (3), 2/28 (2), 3/2 (5)


    Based on this survey, a much greater percentage of people who ordered their coins on the second day or after the second day have received their coins than people who ordered in the first hour or first day. This trend is starting to reverse as more people who ordered within the first hour are finally receiving their coins. Of the twenty people in the "first hour" category who received coins, 14 of them were received in the past two days.

    Based on the data and the dates reported, we can try to reverse engineer what may have happened. Initially, customers who ordered coins first were receiving coins first. This is supported by the 2/9 and 2/11 receipt dates for customers who placed orders in the first hour. No customers who ordered after the first hour reported receipt dates this early.

    After a two week lapse, shipping resumed but coins were shipped to customers across every category, most heavily for the "second day" and "after the second day" categories. Ironically, this took place after the US Mint's email which specifically stated that coins would be shipped on a first-come, first-served basis.

    Also of note, customers receiving their coins over the past few days are still reporting that UPS is dropping the packages on their doorsteps with no signature requirement.

    As more collectors have their Ultra High Relief Double Eagles in hand, some of the negativity about the US Mint seems to be subsiding. However, I don't think waiting for the coins was what upset most people-- from the outset customers were warned that it might take six to nine months to deliver. What upset customers was the barrage of emails providing conflicting shipping dates, shipment and website security issues, the inability to get satisfactory answers by phone, and the overall lack of communication.

    The US Mint might see a temporary respite from customer complaints because they have shipped their coins, but they have not really addressed the underlying issues and broader issues which caused most of the recent problems. When I wrote the post Message to the US Mint: Your Customers Are Not Happy, I intentionally tried to play up these larger issues which have not gone away in the least.

  • BarcatBarcat Posts: 195 ✭✭
    Yes PO Box. The lady said it was picked up by Fed Ex smart post. Whatever that is. Does anyone know how long that takes to be delivered?
    Carolyn

  • SITTINGUY

    BOGOMAM

    Why don't you two just take turns jabbin a sharp stick in my eye?

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,960 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes PO Box. The lady said it was picked up by Fed Ex smart post. Whatever that is. Does anyone know how long that takes to be delivered? >>



    In my experience, average of 10 business days.
  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,960 ✭✭✭


    << <i>An interesting update to a survey conducted on goldandsilverblog.com, enjoy:

    Wednesday, March 4, 2009
    More UHR Double Eagles Arriving
    Posted by: Michael | Posted in: Ultra High Relief , US Mint

    More collectors are reporting that their 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coins have arrived or are shipping. This now includes collectors who placed the orders on the first day of sales.

    Although the US Mint has stated that orders would be shipped on a "first-come, first-served" basis, it's still not clear whether there is any rhyme or reason to their shipping. Over the weekend, I wrote a post regarding the order of shipments and included a survey to try to determine which customers were receiving their coins. I closed the survey this morning and present the results below.

    Total Received Coin Percent
    Ordered in the first hour 245 20 8.16%
    Ordered after the first hour, but in first day 163 7 4.29%
    Ordered on the second day 23 13 56.52%
    Ordered after the second day 30 10 33.33%



    Dates Coin Received
    Ordered in the first hour 2/9, 2/11, 2/25, 2/26, 2/27, 3/2 (5), 3/3 (9)
    Ordered after the first hour, but in first day 2/25 (3), 2/26, 2/27 (2), 3/3
    Ordered on the second day 2/25, 2/26, 2/27 (6), 2/28, 3/2
    Ordered after the second day 2/27 (3), 2/28 (2), 3/2 (5)


    . >>



    So based on this survey, if I order today, I might get this faster than those who ordered the first day? image
  • Coins101Coins101 Posts: 2,602 ✭✭✭
    With all the coins shipping, the First Strike label may be useless.

    What happen with the guy (Charlie?) who got the first one graded by PCGS? Did he flip it for the BIG $$ or is he sitting on it watching all the other orders come in and headed for the First Strike label? That thing was a hot potato then and it may have cooled now.


  • << <i>Yes PO Box. The lady said it was picked up by Fed Ex smart post. Whatever that is. Does anyone know how long that takes to be delivered? >>



    I find it appaling that the PBGS Reps don't even know their own shipping terms. You are not the only one who their UHR shipped in this manner. If you have your order delivered to a USPS POB, then it is delivered by USPS with an intermediary shipper, FedEx. This shipping method takes approximately 10 days for delivery.
  • RareSovRareSov Posts: 299
    lol its a mess, no signatures being required (was required here overseas thankfully)

    Shipping to Australia for my pres proof sets shows a tracking page longer than your arm, it goes on forever. The shipment took over a week, Fedex was 3 day.
  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭


    << <i>2nd of 4 through the courtesy of a friend got a shipping notification email from late last night (shipped 3/3) but the UPS tracking does not have a record of the parcel. image >>


    UPS Tracking is working for the number now. I guess it missed the ship window last night. It should ship today and a number 2 for me tomorrow. Waiting on 2 more MIAs. BTW the order # is also 3083xxxx on the first day within the first 2 hours. image
    trozau (troy ounce gold)


  • << <i>

    << <i>2nd of 4 through the courtesy of a friend got a shipping notification email from late last night (shipped 3/3) but the UPS tracking does not have a record of the parcel. image >>


    UPS Tracking is working for the number now. I guess it missed the ship window last night. It should ship today and a number 2 for me tomorrow. Waiting on 2 more MIAs. BTW the order # is also 3083xxxx on the first day within the first 2 hours. image >>



    Sure TROZAU

    just poke a sharp stick in my eye!

  • What is the coin # on the Sub form on the UHR to PCGS?image
    Brian
  • phehpheh Posts: 1,588
    Yay? I dunno, I'm sort of unimpressed by it. UPS delivered it at 10:45 this morning and it pretty much had to sit on my doorstop until I got home. Although the UHR was still in the capsule - the capsule was loose in the box.

    I really find myself wanting to sink my teeth into it as it looks so soft.

    Here is a quick reverse shot... no tripod and just plainjane incandescent light:

    image
  • stckplungestckplunge Posts: 469 ✭✭
    Ok - now THAT is my new screen saver
  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sure TROZAU

    just poke a sharp stick in my eye! >>


    The US Mint is doing a special striking just for you! To make you feel better, here's something for your viewing/listening pleasure:

    Always Look On The Bright Side of Life
    trozau (troy ounce gold)
  • ObiwancanoliObiwancanoli Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭
    FYI - Ran across this posting earlier on Coin Link (Susan Headley, About.com)

    "Mint to Resume Signature Req By March 13
    Wednesday March 4, 2009

    Maybe today will be the Big Day when we get some statements from the U.S. Mint about long outstanding issues. I found this in my email this morning from the Mint's Office of Public Affairs:

    The United States Mint does not currently require delivery signature for packages. However, due to customer demand, the United States Mint is reinstating its former policy of requiring delivery signatures for all packages valued at $300 or more. In addition to reinstating the signature confirmation on orders of $300 or more, delivery signatures will be required for all packages containing precious metals (platinum, gold and silver coins, not including the United States Mint Silver Proof Set™ and Silver Quarters Proof Sets). We expect to have the signature requirement in effect by Friday, March 13, 2009.

    Of course, we'd all like to know the answer to why the Mint dropped the signature requirement, but I'm not sure we'll ever get the answer to that, especially if it involves human error or the bad judgment of a Mint product manager or something similar. In any case, anyone who was worried about finding thousand dollar coin orders left lying on their doorstep will soon sleep a bit easier.

    In fact, the Mint may already be imposing the new signature requirement. This morning, reader "rtc" posted the following:

    2009 03-04W Just some info for you all. I placed my order on 01-22-09Tu at 12:07pm. I got my UHRDE last night about 8pm via UPS w/signature. Wrote PCGS. The first strike cutoff is 03-11-09W. Whether first strike is meaningful or not is a debatable subject, but the fact remains that first strikes do carry a little more clout. Just wanted to keep you up to speed on my end. rtc

    The UHRDE is how some collectors are describing the UHR. It stands for Ultra-High Relief Double Eagle. For those unfamiliar with First Strikes, it is a PCGS label designation for a slabbed coin that means the coin was submitted for grading during the first 30 days of market availability. Despite the term "First Strikes," such coins are not struck first, nor do they have any other characteristics that distinguish them from regular coins. The U.S. Mint had to issue a consumer advisory about this misleading designation when it first came out, due to the confusion it causes."

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  • Tracking indicates my UHR was delivered 3/3 at 9:10am but it is no where to be found. Freaking out right now.

    That and the fact that my Lincoln commems arrived Sat while I was out of town, were left on the doorstep and had 6 inches of snow on them when I got them Monday (but at least they were there).
  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    UHR received, saga's over and signature required in San Diego. UPS driver stated he was under special orders that my package had to be delivered before 10:30am. Guess UPS, PB and the Mint are feeling the pressure from all you guys.
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Got mine today in the POB; off to PCGS she goes....30827****...........!!


    Miles >>




    I am waiting for mine in the POB. What method did they ship, registered?
  • GAME OVER MAN! GAME OVER!

    I GOT MINE TOO!
  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yay? I dunno, I'm sort of unimpressed by it. UPS delivered it at 10:45 this morning and it pretty much had to sit on my doorstop until I got home. Although the UHR was still in the capsule - the capsule was loose in the box.

    I really find myself wanting to sink my teeth into it as it looks so soft.

    Here is a quick reverse shot... no tripod and just plainjane incandescent light:

    image >>




    Now that is a cool photoimage
  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Imron,

    As requested, here's your sharp stick in the eye!

    Tracking Number: 1Z E19 88X 9999999999
    Type: Package
    Status: Billing Information Received
    Shipped To: ESCONDIDO, CA, US
    Shipped/Billed On: 03/04/2009
    Service: NEXT DAY AIR
    Weight: 2.50 Lbs
    image

    Good luck - you've got to be getting close!
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Mine has been delivered and the box is in my hands.

    I'll open up the box tonight and see what I can do with respect to creative photography and this unique coin.

    (also, at the same time, I got two of gecko's silver bars, so i'll take some pics of those too!)

    Yay.


  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    image Just wanted one post in this thread...
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