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  • mbogoman I missed that one, that blows my theory.


  • << <i>Okay, I squelched the urge to start my own UHR thread to ask:

    When you get your mail message from the mint that your UHR has shipped, does that usually mean that it was delivered 2 days earlier or it's to be delivered today?

    Just checking with the voice of experience?

    Maybe I'll start my own thread, there have been so few of them image >>



    The Mint's ship notification email notifies you that your order was shipped on xx/xx/xx date. However, what it really means is that your order got a tracking number and does not necessarily mean that UPS has picked it up. Usually, UPS will pick up your order no later than 24 hours from the time your order got a tracking number. This is only a problem if the Mint ships your order on the First Strike deadline.
  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146


    << <i>Just noticed something:

    The UPS box has NO DATE on the shipping label (unlike the good old days of Fedex)............ none whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!! so I don't think that the sealed box will be valid for FS consideration. Again, the paperwork/invoice inside is meaningless as I doubt whether PCGS is going to either run the UPS tracking number (why should they?) or risk getting into a disagreement with the submitter. The only boxes valid after the 3/11 cutoff would be those actually mailed to a PO Box or remailed with a correct official datestamp postmark. Anyone else considered this theory?

    Just thinking out loud..................... >>


    You're wasting time and money if you remail it to yourself. Having received other gold coins from the new center I can tell you the carton pack slip is dated inside the box.
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    received e-mail last night, coin this am.

    been few slip ups where it was 2 days, and they don't do weekends. so friday ships arrive, or should, on monday.


    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions


  • << <i>Just received shipment notification email:

    Order #: 30834xxx - 1 Order Date: 1/22/09
    Sold To: Me
    Ship To: Me
    Date Shipped: 3/03/09
    Amount Charged : 1193.95
    Tracking ID
    9101105499615757xxxxxx
    1ZE1988X0111xxxxxx
    Items included in this shipment:
    1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1


    Weird thing is nothing has been charged to my debit card. I even checked another backup card I use every now and then, but nothing there either. Early on there was a charge pending, but it dropped off like others have posted. I usually see the charge on my account before receiving a shipment email. Could it be the best screw-up the USMint has made so far? Let's only hope!! image >>



    Your debit card will be charged by midnight tonight.

    The date shipped does not necessarily mean UPS picked up your order on that date. Sometimes its the next day. In that case, your debit card will be charged by midnight tomorrow night.


  • << <i>When you get your mail message from the mint that your UHR has shipped, does that usually mean that it was delivered 2 days earlier or it's to be delivered today?

    I received the E-mail on Monday Nite that it would ship. The shipping link had no info from UPS at that time. I keep checking Tuesday the UPS link, at around 5:30 pm est it had a link, indicating the delivery date and time on Wendsday. >>



    See my responses above and also know that the term "ship date" refers to the physical transfer of your order from the Mint to UPS at the shipping dock.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Between this coin and the 2008/07 reverse ASE, someone ought to start a poll.


    Here are the choices :

    Who's the most famous from moderns ?

    1) John Nanney for his discovery of the 2008/07 reverse ASE
    2) mach 19 (Dave) for starting THE thread
    3) Jessewu for starting THIS thread
    4) imron
    5) MsM
    6) Charles Camp
    7) Wondercoin
    8) John Maben
    9) Sportsmoderator for his omnipresence
    Just an idea for a poll. image
  • received my UHR the 3/3/09 order number was 30827xxx looks exactly like a proof put it under the microscope has mirror finished fields, no pits or scratches, a very beautiful coin, I have a lot of Gold Proofs, I will put this UHR with the best I have, beautiful coin mint, of course it took awhile but well worth the wait, don't rush the mint, if they get in a hurry and high production you will see the quality go down. In my opinion this coin would warrant a grade of 70 plus. So I guess the Salvation Army Kettle will get a different Gold coin this Christmas.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my lincoln's arrived before the charge. the charge his at midnight the day after. considering that post a few pages back about someone's "account on hold" and getting "transferred to DC" it seems getting the money is the only thing they do efficiently.



    which makes you wonder how could the rest of the ops get so @%#$@!$'ed up. They have contacts in DC!!!


    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • robecrobec Posts: 6,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    .

    << <i>When you get your mail message from the mint that your UHR has shipped, does that usually mean that it was delivered 2 days earlier or it's to be delivered today?
    I received the E-mail on Monday Nite that it would ship. The shipping link had no info from UPS at that time. I keep checking Tuesday the UPS link, at around 5:30 pm est it had a link, indicating the delivery date and time on Wendsday.
    >>




    I received my email from the mint last night at 6:00. I tracked the order this morning on the UPS site and the order was shipped Next Day Air. It started off in Indiana at 10 PM last night. As of 6 am, it is on a UPS truck out for delivery here in Fresno, CA


  • << <i>received my UHR the 3/3/09 order number was 30827xxx looks exactly like a proof put it under the microscope has mirror finished fields, no pits or scratches, a very beautiful coin, I have a lot of Gold Proofs, I will put this UHR with the best I have, beautiful coin mint, of course it took awhile but well worth the wait, don't rush the mint, if they get in a hurry and high production you will see the quality go down. In my opinion this coin would warrant a grade of 70 plus. So I guess the Salvation Army Kettle will get a different Gold coin this Christmas. >>



    Hey Congratulations! And as much as I admire your goal to donate your UHR, consider rather a charity auction instead. Just a thought, but you may not want the fanfare. I understand that. And if it does go in the kettle, get it graded first so they know what they really have. Nevertheless, its people like you that make this sometimes really crappy world all the worthwhile! Thanx! I wish you and yours the best in all you do!
  • UPS just dropped mine off. Apparently the mint sent the e-mail last night at 10:09. I didn't see it until now, what a surprise, this morning! The coin is beautiful. No book, but I did get a note about production problems at the mint. Good luck to those still waiting. Number was 30835XXX @ 1:07 1/22/09.
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    We got another in this a.m.

    More heavy die polish.
  • Just got mine and opened it up. Gorgeous coin, however with the size of the display box the coin looks so tiny when you open it up
    "If you hit a midget on the head with a stick, he turns into 40 gold coins." - Patty Oswalt

  • I don't know how or why I've kept track of this list, but I have. It's a list of 14 individuals who at the time of the list had not received their UHR. Yes, all these individuals were plucked from this forum, and they were all plucked by me. In fact, not only am I the plucker, but a pluckee as well. Some were very vocal, some inquired only once. Some are old timers, some are new members. It's certainly a non-statistical sampling of the population of UHR buyers, but I believe that once all these people receive their UHRs then so has the rest of the population. It has also been updated for Sittinguy's recent email.

    First, the lucky dawgs that got their UHR ship notices (you can clap, nobody's watching):

    Barcat
    Coinkid
    Msmorrisine
    Sittinguy
    Coinmeister
    Fab4
    Gat

    Now, the poor miserable souls whimpering like scolded puppies:

    imron
    agentjim
    baron
    rgcoin
    bogoman
    davetre
    smokincoin
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 32,974 ✭✭✭✭✭
    anyone with advice for safely removing grease off the coin?

    Current maintainer of Stone's Master List of Favorite Websites // My BST transactions
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,250 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That First Strike window is closing fast. Seriously , there will not be very many and whether we like that "FS" label or not. You can really score with it. image I love PCGS most because of the opportunities it gives us collectors and "flippers". It's a great American Company. (that weather's too expensive).

    I don't use (FS™), but PCGS is still the only place I've ever sent a coin. I'm a loyalist.
  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭✭
    The box never "hit the ground". Took pix as I was opening. ....The coin was OUT of holeimage.....All the marks in pix appear to be on the plastic....imageimageimageimage
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,010 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We got another in this a.m.

    More heavy die polish. >>



    DO you think PCGS will 70 coins with this issue? It is as struck.....
  • edgaredgar Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
    there is a date on the bottom left of the ups shipping label.
    there is also a date on the master pack list (enclosed invoice) at the upper right hand corner
    there is a date and time on the small ups tracking lebel on outside of box. plenty of dates indicated on outside of ups package

    (l8-)>>



  • << <i>

    << <i>WORTHY OF REPEATING...

    AND PLEASE, STOP talking about FIFO. These orders are not coming out FIFO, and they will NOT ever get back to FIFO until they start pulling the orders from their system again. The bottom line is if you ordered your UHR before January 26th, your order is NOT going out FIFO. AND if you think this list is getting closer to FIFO, well then just ask all those hundreds of people whose order number falls within this range and have yet to receive their order. FIFO my a$$. :image >>


    Need a leg to stand on my friend? My order will be #3 on your current list. Rep claims all is good with the order. Still waiting. >>



    LOL, I like that. Always the optimist. And I will reserve that #3 spot for the smokincoin!


  • << <i>Just noticed something:

    The UPS box has NO DATE on the shipping label (unlike the good old days of Fedex)............ none whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!! so I don't think that the sealed box will be valid for FS consideration. Again, the paperwork/invoice inside is meaningless as I doubt whether PCGS is going to either run the UPS tracking number (why should they?) or risk getting into a disagreement with the submitter. The only boxes valid after the 3/11 cutoff would be those actually mailed to a PO Box or remailed with a correct official datestamp postmark. Anyone else considered this theory?

    Just thinking out loud..................... >>



    There is a date on the shipping label (at least on mine).. If you look at the very bottom left of the shipping label, just above the PO number.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,250 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>We got another in this a.m.

    More heavy die polish. >>



    DO you think PCGS will 70 coins with this issue? It is as struck..... >>



    What goes on in the tool room, stays in the tool room image
  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭


    << <i>Just noticed something:

    The UPS box has NO DATE on the shipping label (unlike the good old days of Fedex)............ none whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!! so I don't think that the sealed box will be valid for FS consideration. Again, the paperwork/invoice inside is meaningless as I doubt whether PCGS is going to either run the UPS tracking number (why should they?) or risk getting into a disagreement with the submitter. The only boxes valid after the 3/11 cutoff would be those actually mailed to a PO Box or remailed with a correct official datestamp postmark. Anyone else considered this theory?

    Just thinking out loud..................... >>







    Just received mine a few minutes ago and there is definately a ship date on the sticker on the side of the box.......even a time stamp.
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Ship Freaking Comfirmation Maaaaaannnnn!

    Eeek! Pting pting. Wheeeooowhheeooowheeooo. Habadaba. Mrik. Poing.



    We shipped the items listed below today.
    Thank you for your patience, fool.

    Order #: 3083#### - 1 Order Date: 1/22/09

    Sold To: ME

    Ship To: ME

    Date Shipped: 3/03/09

    Amount Charged : 1193.95

    Tracking ID

    blah blah blah


    Items included in this shipment:


    1. 2009 ULTRA HIGH RELIEF GOLD COIN (UH1) Qty : 1




    For the flippers: It looks like there may be over 10 thousand first strike eligible UHR coins after all. So, right now would be a good time to flip before the market floods.

  • I have been duly corrected and was certainly in error. Sorry for the scare gang. You may all now return to beating up on PB and Moy (deservedly so IMHO)

    Forum AdministratorPSA & PSA/DNA ForumModerator@collectors.com | p 800.325.1121 | PSAcard.com

  • Just got my UHR.....UPS dropped it at the door and left..#30833xxxx.....I got the notfication yesterday morning..............Box is great, the coin looks to have a rug burn above the E? All of them like that?

  • UPDATE

    Evidently, through yesterday 03/03/09, the Mint/Pitney has already shipped approximately 20,000 UHRs. If this shipped number is accurate then Pitney only has 9,000 units remaining of the original 29,000 units minted. I have not heard if the Mint has completed any additional mintings above and beyond the original 29,000 units. Given the current extraordinary supply constraints on the Mint's procurement of planchets, it is unlikely any additional mintings have been completed although there may be work in process. These shipped numbers coincide with the Internal PBGS Memo dated 03/03/09 which stated "A large percentage of customer orders will be in the mainstream by week's end." For some us myself included, it is really coming down to the wire, a photofinish if you will.

  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Today, the UHR!

    Tomorrow, the Spouse!




    SportsModerator1 was wrong? How can this be? That's unpossible. I will have to reassess my world view.

  • IrishMikeIrishMike Posts: 7,737 ✭✭✭
    Historically die polish lines don't factor into the grade, but having said that who knows. Since at least one has graded the lofty 70 they have something for comparison. My concern would be resale value, given the plethora of them that will suddenly be on the market. I can already see a thread starting something along the line of Paypal agreed with the buyer, someone will buy one off of ebay and return it saying it is scratched, over graded or just doesn't buy into die polish lines. No question in my mind those with obvious die polish lines will eventually take a price hit.
  • stckplungestckplunge Posts: 469 ✭✭


    << <i>




    For the flippers: It looks like there may be over 10 thousand first strike eligible UHR coins after all. So, right now would be a good time to flip before the market floods. >>




    I dont think I will even try to send this coin in for First Strike eligibility. I would just be happy to sell my two unopened dated boxes for a smallish premium

    Jeff
  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Got mine yesterday, So did my wife, But my son who ordered before us hasn't got his
    Go figure

    PS My wife's was left on porch after ring doorbell, she was downstairs doing laundry
    When she open the door UPS was gone but there lay the package.
    Are they ever gonna require Signatures on these?
  • adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    Personally, i'll wait until I have coin in hand before I decide to get another.

    If I get another, it'll be when the US Mint removes the 1 per house limit.

    That will give us all a way to perpetuate this thread with more complaints...all the way to the end of the year or until the order limit is lifted.

  • coinkid855coinkid855 Posts: 5,012 ✭✭✭
    My Dad called me this morning to let me know my UHR arrived safely this morning. I can't wait to get hom on Friday and see it!! (Oh, and my parents, I guess. image)




    -Paul
  • Glad to hear a lot of you either rec'd your coin or have rec'd your shipping email. Mine is being delivered today, was out for delivery at 9am ET this morning. Good thing I live in a doorman building in Manhattan.

    This thread has made me laugh a lot. As we say in Boston, you folks are wicked cool!

    Imron, hang in there, I hope you get your email today.


  • << <i>UPDATE

    Evidently, through yesterday 03/03/09, the Mint/Pitney has already shipped approximately 20,000 UHRs. If this shipped number is accurate then Pitney only has 9,000 units remaining of the original 29,000 units minted. I have not heard if the Mint has completed any additional mintings above and beyond the original 29,000 units. Given the current extraordinary supply constraints on the Mint's procurement of planchets, it is unlikely any additional mintings have been completed although there may be work in process. These shipped numbers coincide with the Internal PBGS Memo dated 03/03/09 which stated "A large percentage of customer orders will be in the mainstream by week's end." For some us myself included, it is really coming down to the wire, a photofinish if you will. >>



    Imron, it's pretty early in the year. IMO the mint has plenty of time to cough up some more blanks before it's over. Summer might be dry, but I think it will pick up a bit in the fall, depending of course on gold prices. I wouldn't be shocked if these break over 80,000 before it's all said an done. Of course anything is possible.
  • I just got the kiss of death. My coin is being "picked".

    oh well..... I owe I owe it's off to work I go.
  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭


    << <i>UPDATE

    Evidently, through yesterday 03/03/09, the Mint/Pitney has already shipped approximately 20,000 UHRs. If this shipped number is accurate then Pitney only has 9,000 units remaining of the original 29,000 units minted. I have not heard if the Mint has completed any additional mintings above and beyond the original 29,000 units. Given the current extraordinary supply constraints on the Mint's procurement of planchets, it is unlikely any additional mintings have been completed although there may be work in process. These shipped numbers coincide with the Internal PBGS Memo dated 03/03/09 which stated "A large percentage of customer orders will be in the mainstream by week's end." For some us myself included, it is really coming down to the wire, a photofinish if you will. >>



    Based on the email, I think they have more coins.

    "If you place your order for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin on or after February 24 (and up until March 24, 2009), we expect to ship it by May 24, 2009. "

    They say they will be able to cover ALL orders, including the month of March, by the end of May.


    I think we are lucky they didn't get the full 300,000 planchets they wanted, we would of had an over supply, like the Platinum Anniv. Set.

    Maybe we'll keep it under 100,000.




  • rgCoinGuyrgCoinGuy Posts: 7,478
    What number are you guys using for an automated update? I am scared to start a new UHR thread to ask, and don't have time to search this one... image
    imageQuid pro quo. Yes or no?
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,250 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>My Dad called me this morning to let me know my UHR arrived safely this morning. I can't wait to get hom on Friday and see it!! (Oh, and my parents, I guess. image)




    -Paul >>



    perspective... image
    We get it from our youth.
  • stckplungestckplunge Posts: 469 ✭✭
    Hey - I may sell my 2 unopened orders on ebay in one lot - now that Microsoft cashback is at 8% (admittedly that is low) it will still max the cashback!! Start marking them up image


  • << <i>Glad to hear a lot of you either rec'd your coin or have rec'd your shipping email. Mine is being delivered today, was out for delivery at 9am ET this morning. Good thing I live in a doorman building in Manhattan.

    This thread has made me laugh a lot. As we say in Boston, you folks are wicked cool!

    Imron, hang in there, I hope you get your email today. >>





    Thanx REDSOX. I just got off the phone with the Mint, and my UHR is still in process. I'm still hoping even against this apparently hopeless situation. image
  • imron, you called again? now you will have to wait 1 more day. They probably have your coin hanging by a noose in the shipping dept, and they are shooting spitballs at it
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,250 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Historically die polish lines don't factor into the grade, but having said that who knows. Since at least one has graded the lofty 70 they have something for comparison. My concern would be resale value, given the plethora of them that will suddenly be on the market. I can already see a thread starting something along the line of Paypal agreed with the buyer, someone will buy one off of ebay and return it saying it is scratched, over graded or just doesn't buy into die polish lines. No question in my mind those with obvious die polish lines will eventually take a price hit. >>



    Mike, we never know. Look at VAMMERS. The future might latch on to the work of art done by a tool & die guy, especially EDS image


  • << <i>

    << <i>UPDATE

    Evidently, through yesterday 03/03/09, the Mint/Pitney has already shipped approximately 20,000 UHRs. If this shipped number is accurate then Pitney only has 9,000 units remaining of the original 29,000 units minted. I have not heard if the Mint has completed any additional mintings above and beyond the original 29,000 units. Given the current extraordinary supply constraints on the Mint's procurement of planchets, it is unlikely any additional mintings have been completed although there may be work in process. These shipped numbers coincide with the Internal PBGS Memo dated 03/03/09 which stated "A large percentage of customer orders will be in the mainstream by week's end." For some us myself included, it is really coming down to the wire, a photofinish if you will. >>



    Imron, it's pretty early in the year. IMO the mint has plenty of time to cough up some more blanks before it's over. Summer might be dry, but I think it will pick up a bit in the fall, depending of course on gold prices. I wouldn't be shocked if these break over 80,000 before it's all said an done. Of course anything is possible. >>



    Yes, you are correct to a certain extent, however I did find out some unsettling information which I may disclose in another thread. Nevertheless, the photofinish I was referring to above is the more immediate first strike deadline. I am concerned that there may be some very disappointed people whose objective was to obtain the first strike, myself included. I have 3 UHRs all in process all of which were order within the first hour of the UHRs release.
  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    Met the UPS guy at my door around 10 CST and I just finished checking the coin out. Now I can understand why the PCGS grades have been in the 70s. One down, 3 to go. image
    trozau (troy ounce gold)


  • << <i>

    << <i>UPDATE

    Evidently, through yesterday 03/03/09, the Mint/Pitney has already shipped approximately 20,000 UHRs. If this shipped number is accurate then Pitney only has 9,000 units remaining of the original 29,000 units minted. I have not heard if the Mint has completed any additional mintings above and beyond the original 29,000 units. Given the current extraordinary supply constraints on the Mint's procurement of planchets, it is unlikely any additional mintings have been completed although there may be work in process. These shipped numbers coincide with the Internal PBGS Memo dated 03/03/09 which stated "A large percentage of customer orders will be in the mainstream by week's end." For some us myself included, it is really coming down to the wire, a photofinish if you will. >>



    Based on the email, I think they have more coins.

    "If you place your order for the 2009 Ultra High Relief Double Eagle Gold Coin on or after February 24 (and up until March 24, 2009), we expect to ship it by May 24, 2009. "

    They say they will be able to cover ALL orders, including the month of March, by the end of May.


    I think we are lucky they didn't get the full 300,000 planchets they wanted, we would of had an over supply, like the Platinum Anniv. Set.

    Maybe we'll keep it under 100,000. >>



    Yes, but see my reply above regarding this same issue. The Mint may just be on their SECOND run. The first run minted 29,000. The second run probably will NOT be completed before first strike but more than likely will be completed by the end of march. After the second week, UHR sales were very slow. So, shipping deadline for second run is basically may 24, big deal!! Half the year is gone and customers who ordered on the first day or two are gonna be screwed.
  • Just checked the US Mint website and it now announces that the UHR are Product is not available!!!!!!
    Mr. T.

    The quality goes in before the nameplate falls off.


  • << <i>What number are you guys using for an automated update? I am scared to start a new UHR thread to ask, and don't have time to search this one... image >>



    1-800-USA-MINT option # 2
  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just checked my status via the phone-auto status check. It had changed and said "additional credit card chacking is being done for your protection". Oh great. My CC pre-auth fell off today after 4 weeks. What now? So I stayed on the line to talk to a rep. Fortunately, I got one of the few nice ladies. We laughed a bit, she did some pecking around in the system, and then she said "well, it looks like it is shipping today. Would you like the tracking number?" I GOT A TRACKING NUMBER!!!!! I GOT A F&%$IN TRACKING NUMBER!!!!! We laughed and she said she couldn't wait until this was all over. I said, "me, too".

    BOOYAH!!!!!!!!

    UHR 30836xxx 01/22/09 1:08
    Status: UHR located down range, fighting thru the red tape trying to get out of the gate

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