(3) 1980 Topps Baseball Cello Boxes - 'Group Rip & Grade' - EVERYONE IS PAID! GOOD JOB! BBCE HAS

rbdjr1

CELLOS SHIPPED!


01. rbdjr1 (Robert) Paid: $ 49.20 ................. 02. DrJ (Justin) Paid: $49.20
03. thedutymon (Neil) Paid: $49.20 ................. 04. onefasttalon (Russ) paid: $49.20
05. mnolan (Mike) Paid: $49.20 ................. 06. 41goudeyguy (Brian) Paid: $49.20
07. jfkheat (James) Paid: $49.20 ................. 08. scashaggy (Shawn) Paid: $49.20
09. mcolney1 (Tony) Paid: $49.20 ................. 10. Cardcounter2 (Marlin) Paid: $49.20
11. w785 (Raul) Paid: $49.20 ................. 12. 54topps (Mike) Paid: $49.20
13. WinPitcher (Steve) Paid: $49.20 ................. 14. leathtech (Jasen) Paid: $49.20
15. mandeld (Dan) Paid: $49.20 ................. 16. 1966CUDA (Claude) Paid: $49.20
17. jswieton (John) Paid: $49.20 ................. 18. BassPro77 (Bill) Paid: $49.20

nightcrawler (Trent) alt ................. sbtrailrider (Scott) alt ................. DavidPuddy (Terry) alt


PAYMENT INSTRUCTIONS TO BBCE:

1. Send via Paypal: $ 49.20 ($44.50 + $4.70) to Steve Hart: At: BBCExchange@sprintmail.com (or, if desired, you can use a credit card, directly without using Paypal!) ...Just call BBCE at: 800-598-8656, ask for Rick, he will help you!

2. Make sure to include: "CU 1980 Topps rip", along with your CU threads username, as Rick at BBCE has the list of all participants, and will cross reference each $49.20 payment and check you off as "paid"!

3. Rick will have all (18) parcels ready by today for shipping! So, get those payments in ASAP!

4. Rick at BBCE was kind enough to "spread out" the star cello packs, so each of us will receive at least 2 star cellos (...and twelve of us will receive 3 star cellos and six of us will receive 2 star cellos!) (Thanx Rick @ BBCE!)

5. Also: Pleeeeeze, post here, PM, or email me, that you have paid BBCE so I can mark you down her as paid!!!!

That's about it! BBCE made it really easy for us!!! Rick said he will begin shipping as soon as he received at least half of the payments (9 participants). Any questions? You can call BBCE at: 800-598-8656 and you can PM me! or email me: rbdjr@ymail.com

Let the fun begin!

rd







I was thinking what would be a fun group rip that:

1. Would not be too expensive to participate in the "group rip".

2. Each participant would have (4) cello packs each!

3. And a chance to pull something nice (for grading!). How about a gem Henderson rookie card?


So on Monday, I'm calling the Baseball Card Exchange (BBCE/Steve Hart and company) and buying 3 boxes of 1980 Topps Baseball Cello Packs). Thats 24 cellos to each box, for a total of: 72 cello packs. The (3) Boxes are listed at $890 ($300 + $300 + 290 = $890). And maybe I can convince BBCE to offer some sort of "group rip discount" for us "PSA thread guys".

I figured I would offer-up (4) cello packs per person, for a total of: Worst case: approx. $50 per person (plus shipping). This would call for (18) participants into the "group rip".

What's nice here, according Steve Hart, is 2 of the three cello boxes have plenty of "star cards" showing on the cello packs:

SHOWING ON BACK: (5) Winfield, (5) G. Carter, (2) R. Jackson, (1) Yount, (1) Rose Record Breaker, (1) Perry, (1) Seaver, (5) Bench, (4) Brett, (6) Yaz, (1) Palmer and (1) Stargell.

SHOWING ON TOP: (2) Stargell, (2) Palmer, (1) Perry, (1) McCovey, (1) Bench, (1) E. Murray, (5) Perry, (1) McCovey and (1) Carter

I'll divide the "star cellos" fairly. I'll pre-pack (18) Priorty packets (each with 4 cello packs). Unknown to me, I will randomly pick a Priorty Mail packet for each participant. Each participant will receive at least (2) cellos with a star card exposed (top or the bottom!).

We can't ask for more fun than this for around fifty bucks?

Here are my rules:

1. limited to (18) participants.
2. each participant will post scans of their (4) cello packs front and back!
3. each participant will post some "after ripping" pics!
4. each participant will agree to pick out a minimum of (3) cards from this rip, to be submitted to PSA grading. (We will do a group PSA bulk submission, figure around 5 bucks per item!)...
5. each participant will post scans of their graded items, when back from PSA grading.

So how's that sound to everyone? Should be fun! Figure around $65 (plus shipping) will give each participant (4) 1980 Topps baseball cello packs to rip, and then having (3) of your best pulls PSA slabbed!

I will "micro manage" this, and give it my all! So, who's in with me?


Sincerely,

rd

DrJ

I am in, sounds like fun! I assume we are going to pay you and not BBCE like in previous rips?

rbdjr1

Justin,

edit: BBCE is shipping & collecting the "scratch"

rd

thedutymon

Good Day,
Ok, finally something a little different.
I'm in for 1 Lot.
Thanks
Neil

nam812

Some of my thoughts:

Steve has been known to give 10%+/- off for the group rips, so asking him if he can sell for $800 is not unreasonable.

The "group grading" will be a slippery slope since there will be multiple Henderson rookie cards (among other multiples) included in a few people's best 3.

rbdjr1

<< <i>Some of my thoughts:Steve has been known to give 10%+/- off for the group rips, so asking him if he can sell for $800 is not unreasonable. The "group grading" will be a slippery slope since there will be multiple Henderson rookie cards (among other multiples) included in a few people's best 3. >>



Nick, I plan on it! (We might save an extra five bucks, or so each?). I'm confident we will get some sort of a break! Nah! Do not worry! I'll be on top of the group grading! And I'll make sure "multiple" cards, get slabbed and credited to their proper owner(s)! P.S. If you pull a gem Henderson (RC), pleeeeeeze, send it to PSA for grading yourself!

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mknez

As Nick mentioned, Steve gives us 10% off for the group rips, and also takes the individual payments and ships to each of the participants. This seems to make the rip go smoother, instead of shipping everything twice, and reduces the risk to the organizer.

Mike

rbdjr1

<< <i>As Nick mentioned, Steve gives us 10% off for the group rips, and also takes the individual payments and ships to each of the participants. This seems to make the rip go smoother, instead of shipping everything twice, and reduces the risk to the organizer. Mike >>


Edit: We are getting the 10% dicount from BBCE!

rd

rbdjr1

PSA (from most recent SMR report) Suggested Values for 1980 Topps PSA 10s "Key Cards"


1 Brock/Yaz HL 160
4 Pete Rose HL 200
100 Johnny Bench (HOF) 100
160 Eddie Murray (HOF) 200
206 Strikeout Leaders (Ryan, Richard) 100
210 Steve Carlton (HOF) 160
230 Dave Winfield (HOF) 170
270 Mike Schmidt DP (HOF) 110
393 Ozzie Smith (HOF) 335
406 Paul Molitor (HOF) 80
450 George Brett (HOF) 180
482 Rickey Henderson (R) 6500
500 Tom Seaver (HOF) 110
540 Pete Rose 245
580 Nolan Ryan (HOF) 650
600 Reggie Jackson (HOF) 175
681 Orosco/Scott (R) 205
700 Rod Carew (HOF) 60
720 Carl Yastrzemski (HOF) 80

swartz1

I dont want to be a jerk in asking this....

but can you tell the "runs" for this year topps?

onefasttalon

Alright RB.... What the heck, I've always watched these group rips from a distance and thought afterwords: "Damn, I shoulda jumped in on that one!"

Count me in for one package! I'm just hoping three cellos yield three gradable cards!


Russ

baseballfan

sounds cool wish i had the cash to do it.

good luck all

rbdjr1

4 down, 14 to go!!!!

rbdjr1

<< <i>I don't want to be a jerk in asking this....but can you tell the "runs" for this year topps? >>


As per your PM -I do not know the Topps "print run"/cello packaging/card sequencing/etc. for these cellos. Maybe someone will post! But do hope one or more of us pull a nice henderson rookie? From my mouth to God's ears!

rd

mnolan

im in for a lot

mnolan

what do i do now
thanks
mike

rbdjr1

<< <i>what do i do now thanks mike >>


Thanks Mike, I'll post here (and PM you) instructions, on Monday.

rd

rbdjr1

So far, 5 participants are in:

rd

1966CUDA

Robert- I'm in too..sounds like fun.


-Claude

rbdjr1

<< <i>Robert- I'm in too..sounds like fun. -Claude >>


Hi Claude!

6 down, 12 to go!!!!

rd

rbdjr1

41goudeyguy (Brian) u r in! Hope your first rip is fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7 down, 11 to go!!!!!!!!!!

rd

rbdjr1

Interesting stuff about 1980 Topps Baseball: (Source: http://baseballcards.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Topps_Baseball)

(Know any interesting info. about 1980 Topps Baseball? Pleeeeeeze post it! thanks!)


Distribution: The 1980 Topps set was distributed in 15-card wax packs, 42-rack packs, and 28-cello packs. The cello packs were a new type of pack. The gum was separated from the cards to make sure none of the cards were damaged.

Some Variations: (Source: http://baseballcards.wikia.com/wiki/1980_Topps_Baseball)

164 - Greg Pryor has two variations of his card which are known to appear in this set, the first is an extremely scarce variation (#164a) where his name does not appear on the card face, the common issue variation card found in this set (#164b) has his name printed in blue ink.

387 - Fred Stanley has two variations of his card which are known to appear in this set, the first is an extremely scarce variation (#387a) where his name is printed in yellow ink, the common issue variation card found in this set (#387b) has his name printed in red ink.

424 - The Yankees switched managers just prior to the 1980 season thus Dick Howser appears on most cards while Billy Martin shows up on a few. The Martin card is very rare unissued version.

547 - John Wathan has two variations of his card which are known to appear in this set, the first is an extremely scarce variation (#547a) where his name is printed in yellow ink, the common issue variation card found in this set (#547b) has his name printed in red ink.

597 - Tom Poquette has two variations of his card which are known to appear in this set, the first is an extremely scarce variation (#597a) where his name is printed in yellow ink, the common issue variation card found in this set (#597b) has his name printed in red ink.

Base Set: The base set is 726 cards. Cards 1-6 are a Highlights subset, featuring key moments from the 1979 season. Cards 201-207 are league leaders subset, showing the leader from both the AL and NL in certain statistical catagories. Cards 661-686 are rookie cards showing 3 players from the same team per card. A subset of team checklists with pictures of the managers are distributed throughout.

Double Prints: There are 66 cards that were double printed and therefore are available in larger quantities than the other cards. They are not valued much differently than the regular base cards in the set.


rd

jfkheat

Put me in for 1.
James

rbdjr1

Long, but interesting read none the less:

Source: The Baseball card Blog ( http://baseballcardblog.blogspot.com/2006/05/best-set-countdown-10-1980-topps.html )
Posted by : Ben Henry on May 27, 2006

When, in the course of baseball card set ranking related events, a person comes upon the 1980 Topps set, what does that person think? Does this set resonate or does the person even care? I, for one, never realized how much I cared until I spent a little quality time with it and now I realize that this set is one of the most underrated of the decade. It lacks the splash of later-decade Topps sets as it has very few subsets, the All-Star denotation is on regular cards and rookies (for the most part) are not announced. But it makes up for this lack of pageantry with a strong checklist, including the desirable 2nd year Ozzie Smith and third years of Molitor, Trammell and Murray, plus great cards of hobby powerhouses Nolan Ryan, George Brett, Yount, Winfield and a cache of others like Reggie Jackson, Pete Rose and Bench, Fisk and Yaz. And how could we forget: this set features the rookie of, according to Bill James, the fourth greatest left fielder to ever live, Mr. Rickey ‘Refers to Himself as Rickey’ Henderson.

But most importantly, this was Topps’ last year as the only major issue. 1980 was the last year of Topps’ 18-year run as a baseball card monopoly (beginning with Fleer’s 1963 issue and not counting SSPC’s attempts in 1975 and 1976). This is important in myriad ways. First, it was the last year that there was (obviously) only one set put out, so there is only one Nolan Ryan card that year, and only one version of the Henderson rookie. It was the last year before Topps began issuing yearly traded sets, so if there were going to be big rookies or guys on new teams, the company had to try extra hard in not screwing it up.

I think that these last two points are huge. I started collecting right in the thick of things: there were already three card companies going strong, an upstart was encroaching on valuable space (Sportflics) and it would be less than three years before there would be 5 major players vying for my baseball card dollar. If I pined for a Bo Jackson card, I was pining for as many as six Bo Jackson cards, all of them with a legitimate claim to being his rookie. But with Rickey, there was only one set, so there’s only one rookie. And for there to be only one rookie of Rickey Henderson seems fitting, as he broke every mold the game had to offer. (And by the way, when Rickey finally gives up the ghost and officially retires from showing up newbies at Spring Training, he should call up former SuperSonic Michael Cage and they should join the WWE circuit as the tag team Steal Cage, and the WWE scriptwriters could pit them against other tag teams and then at Wrestlemania Cage could turn on Rickey and Rickey would enlist Dave Henderson (who would be a plant in the audience, much like Hasselhoff was at the American Idol finale) and Hendu would come in the ring and rip off his tear-away warm up pants to reveal yellow and green wrestling tights and stomper boots, and thus Steal Cage would be dead and the Flying Hendersons born. I don’t know what would happen to Michael Cage…maybe he could get Old Man Larry Nance off the couch to tag team as Achilles Knees…You know, you could put together a formidable pro-wrestling circuit made up entirely of former legitimate sports figures. Tree Rollins and Jon Koncak would be Ebony & Ivory, Dan Majerle and Darryl Dawkins would be ‘Thunder Brothers’ and Kurt Rambis could wrestle on his own as Oculoptopuzzy, cause Rambis wore glasses and because I personally hate the Lakers. In fact, I might pay around $10 to watch a battle royale featuring Hot Plate Williams, The Refrigerator Perry, Stanley Roberts, Don Baylor, Gabe Kapler, the Phillie Phanatic, Kevin Duckworth, Leon Lett and Rickey Henderson. I would bet Rickey would win that one, even if he was scripted to lose. He’s just that good.)

Aside from the star quality and strong checklist, this set has a kick-ass design. You know, it’s funny that it’s so strong because really Topps was just riffing on itself: it took the bland, forgettable 1974 design (the one with the squarish pennants) and made it more dynamic, tilting the pennants 30 degrees, ballooning the picture (one of the largest photo spaces of any set from the 1980s, possibly the largest) and adding a facsimile signature. This last design element is really an added bonus because you got to see who had mastered the art of penmanship and who could barely scratch out an ‘X’ (my personal favorite is Willie Aikens). Topps did this on the fronts of a handful of sets before 1980: 1952, 1954, 1955, 1959, 1967, 1971, 1975 and 1977, and only once after 1980 (1982). They also had it on the back of cards in 1953 and 1974. It was a fun design element that added a personal touch to the cards, blurring the line between player and collector, like the player had held his card only moments before you got it in your pack. The fact that Topps didn’t use this feature on any design after 1982 (I can only think of the silver and gold signature cards in Upper Deck’s Collector’s Choice series and one or two of Leaf’s Studio sets in the mid-1990s that did) leads me to believe that autographed baseball cards sets are so ludicrously popular today because my generation didn’t know cards could feature facsimile autographs. Can you imagine a clunker like 1990 Topps with facsimile autographs? I would argue they’d be more desirable than the quick-fix mudroom insulation they’ve become.

While I’ve been doing this countdown, I’ve tried to elevate certain ‘iconic’ cards, ones that I think could do a fair job representing an entire set. Some have been obvious, like the Canseco Rated Rookie from the 1986 Donruss set, others not so much, like Dewey Evans’ 1981 Topps card. For 1980 Topps, you could make a pretty persuasive argument that the iconic representative should be the Rickey rookie—it is, after all, the most desirable and valuable card in the set. But for now, while I don’t necessarily disagree with the Rickey argument, I’m going to put forth Biff Pocoroba as the iconic card of this set. Here’s why. Have you ever gone through your cards looking for a weird photo or a weird name or a player that’s especially hairy or ugly? Of course you have (maybe it was the reason you started collecting in the first place, to feel better about yourself). Usually any given set will be split 50/50 between weird and normal players, but if you take a look at the Atlanta Braves team, it’s like there was something in the water down there. Pull out their cards the next time you’re going through your box of 1980 Topps and you’ll see what I mean—it’s like a lineup for a less-intimidating version of The Dirty Dozen. No wonder they finished in the basement (even though Phil Niekro won 21 games, he lost 20. Now that’s some Hall of Fame pitching!).

1980 Topps is underrated. There’s no doubt about it. And, in fact, I would argue that every set in the 1976 to 1980 corridor deserves more love, attention and support. Today a typical player who probably won’t accomplish very much in his career will have upwards of 15 to 20 rookie cards, each valued at some ridiculous and unwarranted price. But guys like Ozzie Smith, Dennis Eckersley, Rickey Henderson—certifiable Hall of Famers who changed the game itself—only have one rookie each, and they’re not worth as much as their accomplishments should demand.

rbdjr1

Thanks James! 8 down, 10 to go!!!

rd

rbdjr1

Bill (BassPro77) u r in! 9 down, 9 to go!!!

rd

scashaggy

I'd like to join as well.

rbdjr1

<< <i>I'd like to join as well. >>


Hello scashaggy! u r in! 10 down, 8 participants to go!!!

rd

mcolney1

I'm in. Sounds like fun.

Tony

rbdjr1

TonY!

U~R IN! 11 down, 7 to go!!!

rd

Cardcounter2

Time to get off the bench. Pencil my name in.

Marlin

scashaggy

Oh yea, my name is Shawn.

rbdjr1

<< <i>Oh yea, my name is Shawn. >>


Shawn, I enjoyed looking at your personal collection of signed Muhammad Ali material. And reading through your Ali web site was very interesting Muhammad Ali link

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skilow

who is doing the shipping? If it is anyone but steve, I smell a scam. No offense intended, but due to prior rips/charity gifts this should be the ONLY option. Id check into this before confirming your lots, buyer beware.

IchiroDeported

Robert your not dying or anything or soliciting bogus money for a degenerative disease? good.

carry on.

Dont be such a negative Nancy Skillow.

jswieton

Count me in!!

jswieton

<< <i>who is doing the shipping? If it is anyone but steve, I smell a scam. No offense intended, but due to prior rips/charity gifts this should be the ONLY option. Id check into this before confirming your lots, buyer beware. >>



I kind of take some offense to this. I think all of the group rips that I have seen or participated in have gone off flawlessly.

mandeld

Count me in. Sounds like fun to me.

nightcrawler

Sounds like lots of fun, I'd like to see this one unfold with some PSA 10s.

nightcrawler

<< <i> I kind of take some offense to this. I think all of the group rips that I have seen or participated in have gone off flawlessly. >>




You're easily offended.


EDIT: See

grote15

I kind of take some offense to this. I think all of the group rips that I have seen or participated in have gone off flawlessly.

You must have joined after gary did...

rbdjr1

jswieton (John) mandfeld (Dan)

You both are in! 14 down, 4 to go!!!!!!!

rd

rbdjr1

Hello Raul!

I received your nice email, that you will be joining the CU threads on Monday. And it is my pleasure to include you in this rip. I promise you cheap thrills and some fun! Who knows? You might "pop your cherry" here with a Henderson rookie on your first rip?

just 3 sluts to go!!!!!!! (I mean slots! sorry guys, my spellcheck was off!)

rd

gumbyfan

I believe scashaggy only wanted one spot. His second response was to give you his first name. You currently have him listed in spots 10 & 13. Of course, I could be wrong, but you may want to check to be sure.

Have fun with the rip!
Craig

lsutigers1973

Just my .02 and the reason I am not joining this one. I assume that the 2 boxes for $300 are the ones that Steve has had forever with stars showing on top or bottom. The chances of pulling a Rickey from one of these 2 boxes will be somewhere between slim and none. I almost bought both of these boxes a few months ago, but after talking to Steve I changed my mind. Steve bought them from a guy who put the boxes together himself and more than likely knew the sequencing. Of course, the only way to prove this is to bust them. Good luck to all.

scashaggy

<< <i>I believe scashaggy only wanted one spot. His second response was to give you his first name. You currently have him listed in spots 10 & 13. Of course, I could be wrong, but you may want to check to be sure.

Have fun with the rip!
Craig >>



That is correct. Thanks for catching it.

estang

Have fun with this & let me know if anyone pulls a mint Davey Lopes or Frank White & it comes back a 9, I'll turn you a profit on your purchase....

rbdjr1

<< <i>I believe scashaggy only wanted one spot. His second response was to give you his first name. You currently have him listed in spots 10 & 13. Of course, I could be wrong, but you may want to check to be sure. Have fun with the rip! Craig >>


Thanks, I corrected that!

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54topps

If there is room left I would like to join.

Mike

rbdjr1

<< <i>If there is room left I would like to join. Mike >>


Hello Mike! u r in! Just two spots left!

rd

WinPitcher

Robert I'll take one.

LMK where to send the money and how much.

Steve