Scarsdalecoin- If you are going to call and get the rest of the story post it. Otherwise what was the point in calling them about this matter that did not concern you. Crypto79 posted his experience with said coin dealer.
The line about the owner of this coin saying it will go up in the next greysheet is BS. How can you run a business like that. I call said owner to buy a coin listed on his website and now he wants to wait and see what the next greysheet price is. ROFL. Just what grade are you really going to call it with the nasty rim ding and a coin that can not be graded by NGC or PCGS. Dealer calls it a AU and customer calls it a XF (which is generous with the issues) and dealers claims he is making 20 bucks. LOL I am not a dealer but compared to a lot of dealers i do well when i sell a coin. I would not even bother selling coins if i could only make 20 bucks on a 500 dollar coin.
In my opinion i buy quite a few coins, most are less than 1500 dollars. I can give example after example of dealers claims that they have 550 in a 580 dollar coin. Same dealer another coin same i got 290 in a 300 dollar coin. I asked this dealer if early proof lincolns were hot now, he said yes and can not keep them in stock. I asked him how much a 1936 PCGS pf 64 red would run, he said he could get me one for 600. I said thanks. I called back the following day and asked them how much they would pay for a 1936 PCGS 64 red. I was told 250. I then said i had a 36 pcgs 64 red i bought from them 6 months ago and the offer jumped to 400. Took all of 45 minutes to sell the same coin on ebay for 550.
I bought a 1937 NGC proof 65 buffalo nickel yesterday for a dealer, price was fair and i did not even ask for a lower price. Dealer asked if i had any coins to sell. I rattled off a few. He offered 400 for one of them. I sold same coin last night on ebay for 1025.00 BIN. The dealer on this item did say he was not up on the actual pricing of said coin i offered. I have no issue with that, i would not sell coins for a 20 dollar mark up so i do not see why a dealer feels compelled to make that statement. I personally think dealers should make a min. of 25 percent if not more.
I have a good friend that owns a coin store and i have seen and been around when he buys, believe me he is making more than 20 bucks a sale.
I am sure i have made enough spelling and grammar errors to cause a few guys on here to be worked up for the rest of the day. Sorry.
Mark NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!! working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
crypto79. Any chance you can edit the thread title in the interest of fairness?
How would you like it if someone started a thread and titled it "crypto79 most slanderous forum member" just because that's beginning to be his, ...er... their, opinion?
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
pennyannie, your right, I should have posted what the Miller's said, but I am to much of a gentlemen to do that and will leave that up to the Millers if they want to visit here and wish to tell their side of the story....
however what I was told of their side is quite different from what I read from the OP...
my point is not to flame the OP, nor start fights, I dont like being negative here at CU, all that I wanted to point out to those on the board was that
THERE ARE 2 SIDES TO ALL THESE STORIES and we are only hearing 1 side...
What bothers me on the boards, is that everyone always believes what is written without taking a moment to think about it.... so yes I stuck up for a dealer that I know....If you have a problem with that so be it.... your rant about what you sell, do on ebay has nothing to do with my point... nor do I think you have enough experience as a dealer to understand that cost of coins is not the only cost when selling a coin... a B/M shop has a load of other expenses but that again is off topic
had the OP just posted that he had a bad experience with a dealer or even mentioned the dealer, heck I probably would not have even bothered to reply, but is post was "worst dealer award" .... thats whats wrong to me.....
Agree. And that rim damage is significant. When coins like this are raw, there is usually a reason.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Scarsdale- You are correct, 2 sides to every story. 100 people can watch a car wreck happen and most will see it from a different angle.
Crypto79 posted his experience and was taken to the cleaners by some on this forum.
There are dealers i can not deal with and others i can get along with fine that others have issues with. I have been self employeed most of my life and am full aware of what it cost to run a business. I owned a Texaco franchise back in the 80's and have dealt with every kind of customer you can deam up from customers claiming my gas ruined their car, stolen checks, credit cards, shoplifiting etc.
You read far more horror stories about dealers on this site than good stories. I bought a coin from Mark Feld yesterday. 1st time i have ever talked to the guy. Spent 4 minutes on the phone with him. I paid the asking price. After i hung up the phone i thought to myself, what a nice guy. Did not even hurt to pay his retail price. I wish all were that easy.
Mark NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!! working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
had the OP just posted that he had a bad experience with a dealer or even mentioned the dealer, heck I probably would not have even bothered to reply, but is post was "worst dealer award" .... thats whats wrong to me.....
I mostly agree. I would reserve a "worst dealer award" for someone who committed fraud, stole something, misrepresented something, ripped a $10,000 coin from a widow for $50, etc. Certainly, the OP had a bad experience, but as a collector, if this is the worst experience he ever has, I think he will be ahead of most.
Let's face it, which experience would you rather have:
A. A dealer who treats you rudely and fails to consummate a deal with you on a coin that is pretty crappy and low end.
B. A smooth talking dealer who is very nice to you and gets you to overpay for a coin that is not worth it but leaves you with good vibes after completing the transaction.
Okay, new contributor here to this long thread, and it wouldn't surprise me if this were already mentioned, but IMO it's bad form to try to negotiate a rock bottom, lowest-you-can-go price with a seller and then insist on making them take another 3% hit on the credit card.
You want the absolute best price, prepare to pay with cash or a check.
<< <i>Okay, new contributor here to this long thread, and it wouldn't surprise me if this were already mentioned, but IMO it's bad form to try to negotiate a rock bottom, lowest-you-can-go price with a seller and then insist on making them take another 3% hit on the credit card.
You want the absolute best price, prepare to pay with cash or a check. >>
Ziggy, you and me usually are on the same side of these things, and that was my initial comment.
All I know (and it ain't much) is that you can't have a thin skin in business and that every situation can be turned around. If crypto had told them that he heard them laughing over the speaker phone, it would have put the onus on the them. What could they have said to that? "I'm sorry, it wasn't you that we were laughing at," or " Geez, I'm sorry, we meant no harm."
The point is, business is business, and a negative can often be turned into a positive, if you let your personal feelings get in the way, you won't get the deal you want. Personally, after having seen the coin, it would be worthless to me with that rim ding so I feel that the OP saved himself a headache.
<< <i>What bothers me on the boards, is that everyone always believes what is written without taking a moment to think about it.... >>
Jon, I agree with much of what you wrote, and I admire your trying to tell the other side of the story. However, do you actually believe the above to be true? Just wondering....Mike
Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
<< <i>OK, So I just got off the phone with Joan from Millers Mint...
Im not even gonna go in to it.... but let's just say that there is a competely different tale told to me about what really happened.....
Long story short, The OP did not get the deal he wanted, and Harry feels that the coin is a very strong piece and in next greysheet will be up higher...
If the OP had bought it, he really would have gotten a great deal...(that is my 2c)
I'm not posting now blasting the OP, I understand he just did not get the deal he wanted and is upset/angrey , but I also think its highly unfair using OUR forum boards here to take a shot at a dealer who has a longterm stella rep in this business...
I also suggested to Joan to take a look at the post, however a lot of dealers just dont want to bother with all the nonsence that goes on here..
wonder why?
PS: they don't put customers on speakerphone at the store! >>
To address a few points, I never said that they said the coin would slab in fact they said it was 51/49 with a lean on not, and the guy on the phone said the rim bump was worse then the pic. I wish all people were this honest. It sounded like speaker phone as there was an echo and I could here every word and pin drop, but It could have been a headset turned up to the max. Also They are wrong about not getting the deal I wanted as the coin Is a type II(pretty rare). and there is no price guide for these yet but from some one in the know, it is a ef-45(not au worn right breast,rist, wing tips) and a $750ish coin and sans rim bumb around 1000 as it is the rarest cir trade dollar(2x the 78cc,100x75p). who here doesn't ask is this the best you can do when buying a coin and if there is a small difference then counter with a split. And all of that was done after coming to an price that they put out on the table. When I said let me get my wallet is when they gave me "speech" on this is going up in price next week(which I stated earlier and they repeated with you) and it's hard to run a coin shop and "times are tough in the country" and it's hard to replace good coins. And I would have paid 495 all day but they said fine to the split on 485 after taking back my token 20 off but after having a laugh and calling me a poor ba$tard. That was the part of the deal I couldn't take. So what did they say that has you thinking I decided to pick on them when they gave you at least a taste of what they gave me.
<< <i>Yeah, the coin is probably an AU after looking at the pics, but that rim bump is GINORMOUS in my opinion. I don't think it would ever grade at PCGS or NGC.
>>
might make a segs au, but I have seen hundreds of xf45s nicer then that one but to be fair a small amout of au50 around it. If it did grade at pcgs IF, it would most likely be xf40 net graded IMHtraded dollarO . please remember as with all seires. Some au's look better on some dates due to strike and the 75cc is by far the best struck cc and top 3 of the entire run. A flat breast and 80/20 wings means it has been around the block where a 1877 might be an au53 with "similar" wear. It is the nicest Type 2rev I have ever seen for under a grand. But I have only been looking for 2years
I started the above thread about 2 years ago describing my experience with a coin dealer. I did not "out" the dealer at that time. I'll let you guess and let's assume that the name of the person I was speaking to is "Hal".
I am not passing judgment on the OP's "case" as there (correct use of there) are issues on both sides. But this begins to look like a pattern of behavior to me that is not good for the dealer IMO. For one, I know for a fact that this dealer has lost any and all business from me and apparently from this thread, a few more.
I am not in the camp of: the customer is always right, because there are unreasonable customers. But to not address and/or ridicule reasonable buyer concerns and questions is uncalled for and not good for business IMO.
Joe.
Edit: The coin I was trying to purchase was $1,100. >>
I'm not 100% on this but I might not be the first person to be treated like crap by millermint, But I can't spell or type so what do I know, I had it coming but since it's my 100th post time for a give away. PM me for a (1c off your lucky to be buying form us gift card from my BFF dealer buds shop in upstate)
<< <i>PM me for a (1c off your lucky to be buying form us gift card from my BFF dealer buds shop in upstate) >>
Do you mean YOU'RE lucky?
Do you see the county labeled Suffolk in the extreme lower right? That's where your (yes, why-oh-you-are your is correct here) dealer friend is. Upstate?
<< <i>Do you see the county labeled Suffolk in the extreme lower right? That's where your (yes, why-oh-you-are your is correct here) dealer friend is. Upstate? >>
I think some people define "upstate" as any part of New York State that isn't in the NYC metro area. At least it appears that way, even though Long Island is hardly "upstate" in the geographical sense.
<< <i>Do you see the county labeled Suffolk in the extreme lower right? That's where your (yes, why-oh-you-are your is correct here) dealer friend is. Upstate? >>
I think some people define "upstate" as any part of New York State that isn't in the NYC metro area. At least it appears that way, even though Long Island is hardly "upstate" in the geographical sense. >>
I solve the problem by not stepping foot the State of New York. Therefore, I am never confused whether I am upstate or not.
Barry, you're starting to make this personal. By any chance will you be in Baltimore at the ANA? I would love to meet such a wise man who I could learn so much form there. Free for lunch budd.
<< <i>Barry, you're starting to make this personal. By any chance will you be in Baltimore at the ANA? I would love to meet such a wise man who I could learn so much form there. Free for lunch budd. >>
<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
You wouldn't know a shot if it hit you in the ass.
I think some people define "upstate" as any part of New York State that isn't in the NYC metro area. At least it appears that way, even though Long Island is hardly "upstate" in the geographical sense.
Ziggy - I lived in NY for 25 years (8 years in the real upstate part - where there are 2 seasons, winter and July 4). Generally, upstate refers to anything north and west of Westchester county, though some true upstaters would argue that anything south of Albany doesn't qualify
<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
>>
I wounder how much you should be allowed to talk about the real world when by your 34000+ posts it is clear to me that you haven't been THERE in quite a while. Get a grip, then get a life and then go get laid. Get the carpal tunnel treated and unbookmark all those XXX sites and then feel free to weigh in with a comment.
<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
You wouldn't know a shot if it hit you in the ass.
I think some people define "upstate" as any part of New York State that isn't in the NYC metro area. At least it appears that way, even though Long Island is hardly "upstate" in the geographical sense.
Ziggy - I lived in NY for 25 years (8 years in the real upstate part - where there are 2 seasons, winter and July 4). Generally, upstate refers to anything north and west of Westchester county, though some true upstaters would argue that anything south of Albany doesn't qualify >>
<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
>>
I wounder how much you should be allowed to talk about the real world when by your 34000+ posts it is clear to me that you haven't been THERE in quite a while. Get a grip, then get a life and then go get laid. Get the carpal tunnel treated and unbookmark all those XXX sites and then feel free to weigh in with a comment. >>
I've seen more of the "real world" than most people will ever want to. People in the real world can handle small problems such as your rant in this post by just taking a deep breath and forgetting about it. You, however, need to come here looking for pity and a hug.
...and to think that just yesterday, I thought to myself that the forum needed some excitement...and then along comes this thread...
...someone pass the popcorn...
...between the US Open and this thread it should be a very entertaining afternoon...
Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free
<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
>>
I wounder how much you should be allowed to talk about the real world when by your 34000+ posts it is clear to me that you haven't been THERE in quite a while. Get a grip, then get a life and then go get laid. Get the carpal tunnel treated and unbookmark all those XXX sites and then feel free to weigh in with a comment. >>
I've seen more of the "real world" than most people will ever want to. People in the real world can handle small problems such as your rant in this post by just taking a deep breath and forgetting about it. You, however, need to come here looking for pity and a hug.
Grow up! >>
the real world is more than a TV show or what you read on yahoo news page friend. sorry
<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
>>
I wounder how much you should be allowed to talk about the real world when by your 34000+ posts it is clear to me that you haven't been THERE in quite a while. Get a grip, then get a life and then go get laid. Get the carpal tunnel treated and unbookmark all those XXX sites and then feel free to weigh in with a comment. >>
I've seen more of the "real world" than most people will ever want to. People in the real world can handle small problems such as your rant in this post by just taking a deep breath and forgetting about it. You, however, need to come here looking for pity and a hug.
Grow up! >>
the real world is more than a TV show or what you read on yahoo news page friend. sorry >>
I don't watch tv and have never seen yahoo news.
Of course a Yahoo like you probably frequents such places since you have no real perspective of the world. How old are you? 15 or 16??
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1875-CC TRADE DOLLARS AU50 Orig toned, Lt rim bump left of date
The Millers never said it would grade at NGC/PCGS
its accurately described!
The line about the owner of this coin saying it will go up in the next greysheet is BS. How can you run a business like that. I call said owner to buy a coin listed on his website and now he wants to wait and see what the next greysheet price is. ROFL. Just what grade are you really going to call it with the nasty rim ding and a coin that can not be graded by NGC or PCGS. Dealer calls it a AU and customer calls it a XF (which is generous with the issues) and dealers claims he is making 20 bucks. LOL I am not a dealer but compared to a lot of dealers i do well when i sell a coin. I would not even bother selling coins if i could only make 20 bucks on a 500 dollar coin.
In my opinion i buy quite a few coins, most are less than 1500 dollars. I can give example after example of dealers claims that they have 550 in a 580 dollar coin. Same dealer another coin same i got 290 in a 300 dollar coin. I asked this dealer if early proof lincolns were hot now, he said yes and can not keep them in stock. I asked him how much a 1936 PCGS pf 64 red would run, he said he could get me one for 600. I said thanks. I called back the following day and asked them how much they would pay for a 1936 PCGS 64 red. I was told 250. I then said i had a 36 pcgs 64 red i bought from them 6 months ago and the offer jumped to 400. Took all of 45 minutes to sell the same coin on ebay for 550.
I bought a 1937 NGC proof 65 buffalo nickel yesterday for a dealer, price was fair and i did not even ask for a lower price. Dealer asked if i had any coins to sell. I rattled off a few. He offered 400 for one of them. I sold same coin last night on ebay for 1025.00 BIN. The dealer on this item did say he was not up on the actual pricing of said coin i offered. I have no issue with that, i would not sell coins for a 20 dollar mark up so i do not see why a dealer feels compelled to make that statement. I personally think dealers should make a min. of 25 percent if not more.
I have a good friend that owns a coin store and i have seen and been around when he buys, believe me he is making more than 20 bucks a sale.
I am sure i have made enough spelling and grammar errors to cause a few guys on here to be worked up for the rest of the day. Sorry.
NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
How would you like it if someone started a thread and titled it "crypto79 most slanderous forum member" just because that's beginning to be his, ...er... their, opinion?
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
however what I was told of their side is quite different from what I read from the OP...
my point is not to flame the OP, nor start fights, I dont like being negative here at CU, all that I wanted to point out to those on the board was that
THERE ARE 2 SIDES TO ALL THESE STORIES and we are only hearing 1 side...
What bothers me on the boards, is that everyone always believes what is written without taking a moment to think about it.... so yes I stuck up for a dealer that I know....If you have a problem with that so be it.... your rant about what you sell, do on ebay has nothing to do with my point... nor do I think you have enough experience as a dealer to understand that cost of coins is not the only cost when selling a coin... a B/M shop has a load of other expenses but that again is off topic
had the OP just posted that he had a bad experience with a dealer or even mentioned the dealer, heck I probably would not have even bothered to reply, but is post was
"worst dealer award" .... thats whats wrong to me.....
<< <i>FWIW, the coin is far from original. >>
Agree. And that rim damage is significant. When coins like this are raw, there is usually a reason.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Crypto79 posted his experience and was taken to the cleaners by some on this forum.
There are dealers i can not deal with and others i can get along with fine that others have issues with. I have been self employeed most of my life and am full aware of what it cost to run a business. I owned a Texaco franchise back in the 80's and have dealt with every kind of customer you can deam up from customers claiming my gas ruined their car, stolen checks, credit cards, shoplifiting etc.
You read far more horror stories about dealers on this site than good stories. I bought a coin from Mark Feld yesterday. 1st time i have ever talked to the guy. Spent 4 minutes on the phone with him. I paid the asking price. After i hung up the phone i thought to myself, what a nice guy. Did not even hurt to pay his retail price. I wish all were that easy.
NGC registry V-Nickel proof #6!!!!
working on proof shield nickels # 8 with a bullet!!!!
RIP "BEAR"
I mostly agree. I would reserve a "worst dealer award" for someone who committed fraud, stole something, misrepresented something, ripped a $10,000 coin from a widow for $50, etc. Certainly, the OP had a bad experience, but as a collector, if this is the worst experience he ever has, I think he will be ahead of most.
Let's face it, which experience would you rather have:
A. A dealer who treats you rudely and fails to consummate a deal with you on a coin that is pretty crappy and low end.
B. A smooth talking dealer who is very nice to you and gets you to overpay for a coin that is not worth it but leaves you with good vibes after completing the transaction.
I will take A over B any day of the week.
<< <i>FWIW, the coin is far from original. >>
that has nothing to do with this thread! ignore the rim bump,
the price, and how the coin looks.
please pick a side and duke it out. rational opinions are not wanted
here.
You want the absolute best price, prepare to pay with cash or a check.
<< <i>Okay, new contributor here to this long thread, and it wouldn't surprise me if this were already mentioned, but IMO it's bad form to try to negotiate a rock bottom, lowest-you-can-go price with a seller and then insist on making them take another 3% hit on the credit card.
You want the absolute best price, prepare to pay with cash or a check. >>
Ziggy, you and me usually are on the same side of these things, and that was my initial comment.
The point is, business is business, and a negative can often be turned into a positive, if you let your personal feelings get in the way, you won't get the deal you want. Personally, after having seen the coin, it would be worthless to me with that rim ding so I feel that the OP saved himself a headache.
<< <i>What bothers me on the boards, is that everyone always believes what is written without taking a moment to think about it.... >>
Jon, I agree with much of what you wrote, and I admire your trying to tell the other side of the story. However, do you actually believe the above to be true? Just wondering....Mike
<< <i>OK, So I just got off the phone with Joan from Millers Mint...
Im not even gonna go in to it.... but let's just say that there is a competely different tale told to me about what really happened.....
Long story short, The OP did not get the deal he wanted, and Harry feels that the coin is a very strong piece and in next greysheet will be up higher...
If the OP had bought it, he really would have gotten a great deal...(that is my 2c)
I'm not posting now blasting the OP, I understand he just did not get the deal he wanted and is upset/angrey ,
but I also think its highly unfair using OUR forum boards here to take a shot at a dealer who has a longterm stella rep in this business...
I also suggested to Joan to take a look at the post, however a lot of dealers just dont want to bother with all the nonsence that goes on here..
wonder why?
PS: they don't put customers on speakerphone at the store! >>
To address a few points, I never said that they said the coin would slab in fact they said it was 51/49 with a lean on not, and the guy on the phone said the rim bump was worse then the pic. I wish all people were this honest. It sounded like speaker phone as there was an echo and I could here every word and pin drop, but It could have been a headset turned up to the max. Also They are wrong about not getting the deal I wanted as the coin Is a type II(pretty rare). and there is no price guide for these yet but from some one in the know, it is a ef-45(not au worn right breast,rist, wing tips) and a $750ish coin and sans rim bumb around 1000 as it is the rarest cir trade dollar(2x the 78cc,100x75p). who here doesn't ask is this the best you can do when buying a coin and if there is a small difference then counter with a split. And all of that was done after coming to an price that they put out on the table. When I said let me get my wallet is when they gave me "speech" on this is going up in price next week(which I stated earlier and they repeated with you) and it's hard to run a coin shop and "times are tough in the country" and it's hard to replace good coins. And I would have paid 495 all day but they said fine to the split on 485 after taking back my token 20 off but after having a laugh and calling me a poor ba$tard. That was the part of the deal I couldn't take. So what did they say that has you thinking I decided to pick on them when they gave you at least a taste of what they gave me.
<< <i>Yeah, the coin is probably an AU after looking at the pics, but that rim bump is GINORMOUS in my opinion. I don't think it would ever grade at PCGS or NGC.
might make a segs au, but I have seen hundreds of xf45s nicer then that one but to be fair a small amout of au50 around it. If it did grade at pcgs IF, it would most likely be xf40 net graded IMHtraded dollarO . please remember as with all seires. Some au's look better on some dates due to strike and the 75cc is by far the best struck cc and top 3 of the entire run. A flat breast and 80/20 wings means it has been around the block where a 1877 might be an au53 with "similar" wear. It is the nicest Type 2rev I have ever seen for under a grand. But I have only been looking for 2years
<< <i>My experience
I started the above thread about 2 years ago describing my experience with a coin dealer. I did not "out" the dealer at that time. I'll let you guess and let's assume that the name of the person I was speaking to is "Hal".
I am not passing judgment on the OP's "case" as there (correct use of there) are issues on both sides. But this begins to look like a pattern of behavior to me that is not good for the dealer IMO. For one, I know for a fact that this dealer has lost any and all business from me and apparently from this thread, a few more.
I am not in the camp of: the customer is always right, because there are unreasonable customers. But to not address and/or ridicule reasonable buyer concerns and questions is uncalled for and not good for business IMO.
Joe.
Edit: The coin I was trying to purchase was $1,100. >>
I'm not 100% on this but I might not be the first person to be treated like crap by millermint, But I can't spell or type so what do I know, I had it coming
but since it's my 100th post time for a give away. PM me for a (1c off your lucky to be buying form us gift card from my BFF dealer buds shop in upstate)
<< <i>PM me for a (1c off your lucky to be buying form us gift card from my BFF dealer buds shop in upstate) >>
Do you mean YOU'RE lucky?
Do you see the county labeled Suffolk in the extreme lower right? That's where your (yes, why-oh-you-are your is correct here) dealer friend is. Upstate?
<< <i>Do you see the county labeled Suffolk in the extreme lower right? That's where your (yes, why-oh-you-are your is correct here) dealer friend is. Upstate?
I think some people define "upstate" as any part of New York State that isn't in the NYC metro area. At least it appears that way, even though Long Island is hardly "upstate" in the geographical sense.
<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
<< <i>
<< <i>Do you see the county labeled Suffolk in the extreme lower right? That's where your (yes, why-oh-you-are your is correct here) dealer friend is. Upstate?
I think some people define "upstate" as any part of New York State that isn't in the NYC metro area. At least it appears that way, even though Long Island is hardly "upstate" in the geographical sense. >>
I solve the problem by not stepping foot the State of New York. Therefore, I am never confused whether I am upstate or not.
<< <i>Barry, you're starting to make this personal. By any chance will you be in Baltimore at the ANA? I would love to meet such a wise man who I could learn so much form there. Free for lunch budd. >>
<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
You wouldn't know a shot if it hit you in the ass.
I think some people define "upstate" as any part of New York State that isn't in the NYC metro area. At least it appears that way, even though Long Island is hardly "upstate" in the geographical sense.
Ziggy - I lived in NY for 25 years (8 years in the real upstate part - where there are 2 seasons, winter and July 4). Generally, upstate refers to anything north and west of Westchester county, though some true upstaters would argue that anything south of Albany doesn't qualify
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<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
I wounder how much you should be allowed to talk about the real world when by your 34000+ posts it is clear to me that you haven't been THERE in quite a while. Get a grip, then get a life and then go get laid. Get the carpal tunnel treated and unbookmark all those XXX sites and then feel free to weigh in with a comment.
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<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
You wouldn't know a shot if it hit you in the ass.
I think some people define "upstate" as any part of New York State that isn't in the NYC metro area. At least it appears that way, even though Long Island is hardly "upstate" in the geographical sense.
Ziggy - I lived in NY for 25 years (8 years in the real upstate part - where there are 2 seasons, winter and July 4). Generally, upstate refers to anything north and west of Westchester county, though some true upstaters would argue that anything south of Albany doesn't qualify >>
was that a yes to lunch, pal
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<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
I wounder how much you should be allowed to talk about the real world when by your 34000+ posts it is clear to me that you haven't been THERE in quite a while. Get a grip, then get a life and then go get laid. Get the carpal tunnel treated and unbookmark all those XXX sites and then feel free to weigh in with a comment. >>
I've seen more of the "real world" than most people will ever want to. People in the real world can handle small problems such as your rant in this post by just taking a deep breath and forgetting about it. You, however, need to come here looking for pity and a hug.
Grow up!
...someone pass the popcorn...
...between the US Open and this thread it should be a very entertaining afternoon...
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In light of this statement of yours
<< <i>I wish all people were this honest. >>
regarding the person you spoke to at Miller's Mint, any chance you want to edit the title of this thread?
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
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In light of this statement of yours
<< <i>I wish all people were this honest. >>
regarding the person you spoke to at Miller's Mint, any chance you want to edit the title of this thread? >>
No, honest and an ass= ass
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<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
I wounder how much you should be allowed to talk about the real world when by your 34000+ posts it is clear to me that you haven't been THERE in quite a while. Get a grip, then get a life and then go get laid. Get the carpal tunnel treated and unbookmark all those XXX sites and then feel free to weigh in with a comment. >>
I've seen more of the "real world" than most people will ever want to. People in the real world can handle small problems such as your rant in this post by just taking a deep breath and forgetting about it. You, however, need to come here looking for pity and a hug.
Grow up! >>
the real world is more than a TV show or what you read on yahoo news page friend. sorry
Proud recipient of two "You Suck" awards
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<< <i>crypto,
In light of this statement of yours
<< <i>I wish all people were this honest. >>
regarding the person you spoke to at Miller's Mint, any chance you want to edit the title of this thread? >>
No, honest and an ass= ass >>
Yes, yes, you certainly are an ass.
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<< <i>both of of those were shots at you, the your and the upstate. ass >>
The real ass here has been you!
I wounder how much you should be allowed to talk about the real world when by your 34000+ posts it is clear to me that you haven't been THERE in quite a while. Get a grip, then get a life and then go get laid. Get the carpal tunnel treated and unbookmark all those XXX sites and then feel free to weigh in with a comment. >>
I've seen more of the "real world" than most people will ever want to. People in the real world can handle small problems such as your rant in this post by just taking a deep breath and forgetting about it. You, however, need to come here looking for pity and a hug.
Grow up! >>
the real world is more than a TV show or what you read on yahoo news page friend. sorry >>
I don't watch tv and have never seen yahoo news.
Of course a Yahoo like you probably frequents such places since you have no real perspective of the world. How old are you? 15 or 16??
<< <i>Believe it or not, this meaningless thread would dissolve into the sunset if no one else posted........ including me!
<< <i>Believe it or not, this meaningless thread would dissolve into the sunset if no one else posted........ including me!
Yeah, but it's like trying to divert your eyes from a train wreck.
<< <i>I have a feeling there will be some bannings because of this thread. >>
I doubt it.
<< <i>No, honest and an ass= ass >>
Thank you for responding to my request for basic fairness in the thread title, crypto.
I did not know you were a juvenile. Never mind.
I predict your folks will be along shortly to block your interent access.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
<< <i>I doubt it. >>
Yeah, but there's at least one poster I'd love to see gone...(not you Mike)
Can't we all just get along?
Forgive - Forget - Move On.
There are too many other things going on to keep this nonsense up!
An OLIVE BRANCH?
<< <i>Wow, don't know how I missed this thread til now. Cheers