<< <i>FWIW, I posted the results of my order because other posters asked for results of current orders. I never said that they were rare.
There are quite a number of ASE collectors, and if the 08 with 07 reverse is recognized as a variety and is included in the albums or registry sets, the price may increase over time because this coin would be needed to complete the set. >>
i don't know how many ASE collectors there are.. from anecdotal evidence, reading here and there, the three top-most collected series of coins are MorgEn DollErs, Lincoln cents, and ASEs.. or possibly State Quarters..
but.. anyone who wants a complete set of ASEs better have about six grand for the 1995-W.. which will leave a lot of complete setters who also like to eat and pay bills with a gaping hole in the book (not that anyone would shove a 1995-W Proof naked into an album.. but who knows.. someone might.. i saw the lowest-graded 2000-W LOC BiMetallic Proof i've ever seen on TeleTrade last week, graded PCGS PR65DCAM.. PR65!?.. but i digress..)..
it's MY opinion, and i think i share it with some others here, while others will vehemently disagree.. that the 2008 Reverse of 2007 ASE has tremendous upside potential, and it ain't nowhere near there yet, and it may not get there for weeks, months, or a couple of years.. or some people will say it'll never get there.. right now it's hot rats, eBay is flooded with them, so they're going cheap.. relatively speaking, if you call $200.00 to $250.00 for a $25.00 coin cheap.. (for a 69)..
there are still too many questions left unanswered.. the fact that the Mint has admitted to the error is a given.. the numbers 45,000 and 47,000 have been bandied about but the question is, how many of those actually got shipped?.. how many of them got bought in bulk by the teevee hucksters and colorized before they knew the error existed?.. how many of them has the Mint caught and unboxed and replaced with 2008 / 2008s?.. none of this is known yet.. the exact numbers THAT STILL EXIST, that aren't marching off to the melting pot may never be known.. pop reports' numbers increase daily.. well duh..
i've got a bunch of 69 ERs and i'm not selling yet.. i might not sell for weeks, months.. years.. i can wait it out.. i've sold too soon before and regretted it for years.. but rarely have i sold too late and missed a window of opportunity.. but i'm not living in a refrigerator box in an alley.. i'm not starving.. i don't have mountains of debt.. i don't NEED a couple hundred bucks THAT badly.. so no matter how many i get, i'll keep at least ONE.. for years..
12 = 12/12 08/07's ord 4/24, packed 4/29, rec'd 5/1 12 = 12/12 08/07's ord 4/25, packed 4/29, rec'd 5/1
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I placed a small order at the Mint for these 5 days ago and although my order states "in stock and reserved" my order is still on hold? Is this typical or are these coins on back order now because everyone is trying to get the 2007 reverse's?
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I received an oreder of 50 today that was ordered on the 20th. All of the coins has visible evidence that someone had gone through the coins in a very quick manner. I would consider the faucet turned off.
<< <i>I placed a small order at the Mint for these 5 days ago and although my order states "in stock and reserved" my order is still on hold? Is this typical or are these coins on back order now because everyone is trying to get the 2007 reverse's? >>
Totally normal, call your CC company and make sure the charge will go through. When the cancel box goes away shipment is near.
OK, so we've got a couple reports of receiving these on April 30th, and now May 1st.
May 2nd anyone?
I agree with an earlier poster...let's keep track of how late these are being ordered, shipping, and received. It should be quite interesting.
I believe anyone that says the faucet is turned off forgets how quality control works at the mint. As long as these reports keep trickling in there is hope for those that want to order.
But don't order just to return them if you don't get 08/07's!!
Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design.....
"The reverse design, by United States Mint sculptor John Mercanti, features a striking heraldic eagle with shield, and olive branch in the right talon and arrows in the left. The 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin is encapsulated in plastic, placed in a protective outer box, and accompanied by a custom-designed Certificate of Authenticity."
<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design.....
"The reverse design, by United States Mint sculptor John Mercanti, features a striking heraldic eagle with shield, and olive branch in the right talon and arrows in the left. The 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin is encapsulated in plastic, placed in a protective outer box, and accompanied by a custom-designed Certificate of Authenticity."
<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design..... >>
Changing a font and star style isn't a new design....
<< <i>Question: Do the burnished ASE coins have the same problem with milk spots or is it mostly the proof coin? >>
I believe that they do. Oddly enough it doesn't seem to be a problem with commems like the Buffalo dollar, the Bald Eagle dollars , the SF Old Mint, Edison dollars, etc and stuff like that; at least I have never heard it was.
<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design..... >>
Changing a font and star style isn't a new design.... >>
semmanics...new design, change of design. The design was altered from all previous years but yet, the picture clearly shows the previous years' design. Not the current year.
"What we are never changes, but who we are ... never stops changing."
<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design.....
"The reverse design, by United States Mint sculptor John Mercanti, features a striking heraldic eagle with shield, and olive branch in the right talon and arrows in the left. The 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin is encapsulated in plastic, placed in a protective outer box, and accompanied by a custom-designed Certificate of Authenticity."
<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins. >>
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know.
Got an order for 100 today. Zilch, zip, nada, the box had been opened and resealed with clear tape, presumably at the mint shipping facility. It came from the same isle and bin as the order that had some.
<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins. >>
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know. >>
Of course that was stated hypothetically but what a great set that would be. Two very popular coins under 50,000 in pop....just dreaming.
<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins. >>
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know. >>
Of course that was stated hypothetically but what a great set that would be. Two very popular coins under 50,000 in pop....just dreaming.
<< <i>Got an order for 100 today. Zilch, zip, nada, the box had been opened and resealed with clear tape, presumably at the mint shipping facility. It came from the same isle and bin as the order that had some. >>
I've said this before...the Mint must have some distribution QA people pulling them at the Fulfillment Center or someone is skimming and tossing them on the bay.
<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins. >>
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know. >>
Of course that was stated hypothetically but what a great set that would be. Two very popular coins under 50,000 in pop....just dreaming.
Ren >>
NN news is already reporting mintaes about 190K >>
from the NN emailed newsletter blasted out this morning:
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins. >>
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know. >>
Of course that was stated hypothetically but what a great set that would be. Two very popular coins under 50,000 in pop....just dreaming.
Ren >>
NN news is already reporting mintaes about 190K >>
from the NN emailed newsletter blasted out this morning:
>>
caveat: i don't know what the lag is between the time Dave Harper of NN gets the numbers from the Mint and the time he publishes them, although he publishes figures weekly.. thus i don't know how out-of-date they are by the time they GET published.. where did you get your "about 190K" number?..
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design.....
"The reverse design, by United States Mint sculptor John Mercanti, features a striking heraldic eagle with shield, and olive branch in the right talon and arrows in the left. The 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin is encapsulated in plastic, placed in a protective outer box, and accompanied by a custom-designed Certificate of Authenticity."
I believe the depiction also shows a OBVERSE of 2007 with a 2008 date on it. I think the mint got lazy and just photoshopped the date in. I think some dealers are doing this also and selling a few more coins or perhapse they just copied the mints photos. I suspect that the reason the die mix up happened is that most employees at the mint are unaware of the change so they thought the 2007 was still usable.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
I believe the depiction also shows a OBVERSE of 2007 with a 2008 date on it. I think the mint got lazy and just photoshopped the date in. I think some dealers are doing this also and selling a few more coins or perhapse they just copied the mints photos. >>
lazy?.. heh.. bingo.. the sold-out Bald Eagle Three-coin Proof set picture on the Mint's Web site STILL shows the Gold piece on the left of the three-coin holder.. it showed it that way from the beginning.. it showed it that way in their snail mail brochure sent out eons ago.. they've never changed that picture and as anyone who owns or has seen one of these sets knows (holding up set).. the Gold piece is in the middle of the clamshell case.. it was never on the left.. that picture from the brochure and on the Web site is most likely an artist's rendering, NOT a photograph.. for some reason (and i think it was a wise decision).. when they went into production, someone decided the Gold piece, obviously the most valuable and important of the three coins, should be the focal piece, thus, in the center of the case.. however, whoever selected the placement of the coins, even WITH that correction, flunked Art 101.. the DollEr and the Half have the birds facing OUT.. they should have been reversed in the case with the birds facing IN.. (i dicussed this previously in the Bald Eagle thread elsewhere on these boreds which has finally petered out after a bajillion postings)..
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>[caveat: i don't know what the lag is between the time Dave Harper of NN gets the numbers from the Mint and the time he publishes them, although he publishes figures weekly.. thus i don't know how out-of-date they are by the time they GET published.. where did you get your "about 190K" number?.. >>
I got this from the pages of the April 29th Edition
here's another point I'll toss out there.... It is now obvious there are two varieties out there for the 2008 W SAE Uncirculated Coin. Is the die with the serif "U" going to be used for only the W mint mark Uncirculated Coin? There has yet to be a visual identification/confirmation of this reverse on the proof W or the bullion SAE. My point: I wonder if the mint will go to the serif version on all SAE's going forward or just the uncirculated coin. If they do the transformation, there may be varieties for the bullion and proof coins later this year...... then here we go again
"What we are never changes, but who we are ... never stops changing."
<< <i>For what it is worth the number of 2007/2008 ASE on Ebay is up to 170 from last 7-10 day average of 125.
Price for raw coins capped at around $225 for now.............
Numbers obtained by searching 2007-2008-reverse >>
try searching for "2008 rev* 2007" (without the quotes..) .. because there are some geniuses who can't spel gud and spell "reverse" wrong.. that's why i always refer to "MorgEn DollErs".. if you do an eBay search for those two misspelled words, or either one of them misspelled, thus "MorgEn DollErs", "MorgEn DollArs" or "MorgAn DollErs" you will almost always find some in all three spelling variations.. there's no need to add ASE or Silver Eagles or anything else when searching.. since in my searches i haven't found anything else except these coins come up with a search for "2008 rev* 2007".. in fact, you might even want to try "*08 rev* *07" in case some people aren't using the full four-digit years in their titles.. ya never know ..
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, I won't be laid a hand on.. I don't do these things to other people.. I require the same of them.." - John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's? >>
The changes for the 2008 ASE design were meant for all varieties of the ASE. So far the mistake of using a 2007 reverse die was only done on the unc version. No mistakes for the proof or bullion version have been confirmed so far.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
<< <i>For what it is worth the number of 2007/2008 ASE on Ebay is up to 170 from last 7-10 day average of 125.
Price for raw coins capped at around $225 for now.............
Numbers obtained by searching 2007-2008-reverse >>
try searching for "2008 rev* 2007" (without the quotes..) .. because there are some geniuses who can't spel gud and spell "reverse" wrong.. that's why i always refer to "MorgEn DollErs".. if you do an eBay search for those two misspelled words, or either one of them misspelled, thus "MorgEn DollErs", "MorgEn DollArs" or "MorgAn DollErs" you will almost always find some in all three spelling variations.. there's no need to add ASE or Silver Eagles or anything else when searching.. since in my searches i haven't found anything else except these coins come up with a search for "2008 rev* 2007".. in fact, you might even want to try "*08 rev* *07" in case some people aren't using the full four-digit years in their titles.. ya never know .. >>
Hek, you mite evun git som beter deels frum those dummys who cant spel.
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
I had given up after going 0/37 on my 2008 w's from the Mint so I bought 3 raw on the Bay and a couple of graded 69's and 70's. Soooo my order of 12 from the Mint shows up and I get 12/12 07's. Go figure....
<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's? >>
The changes for the 2008 ASE design were meant for all varieties of the ASE. So far the mistake of using a 2007 reverse die was only done on the unc version. No mistakes for the proof or bullion version have been confirmed so far. >>
Some BULLION versions were for sale on the BST board.
Some BULLION versions were for sale on the BST board.
Have a good one!!! >>
I don't think that was real. I think the seller was really a reseller who thought he had some coming. Correct me if I am wrong. Did anyone actually get one?
Gold and silver are valuable but wisdom is priceless.
<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's? >>
The changes for the 2008 ASE design were meant for all varieties of the ASE. So far the mistake of using a 2007 reverse die was only done on the unc version. No mistakes for the proof or bullion version have been confirmed so far. >>
Some BULLION versions were for sale on the BST board.
Have a good one!!! >>
I'm all about pictures...please show me.
"What we are never changes, but who we are ... never stops changing."
<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's? >>
The changes for the 2008 ASE design were meant for all varieties of the ASE. So far the mistake of using a 2007 reverse die was only done on the unc version. No mistakes for the proof or bullion version have been confirmed so far. >>
Some BULLION versions were for sale on the BST board.
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<< <i>FWIW, I posted the results of my order because other posters asked for results of current orders. I never said that they were rare.
There are quite a number of ASE collectors, and if the 08 with 07 reverse is recognized as a variety and is included in the albums or registry sets, the price may increase over time because this coin would be needed to complete the set. >>
i don't know how many ASE collectors there are.. from anecdotal evidence, reading here and there, the three top-most collected series of coins are MorgEn DollErs, Lincoln cents, and ASEs.. or possibly State Quarters..
but.. anyone who wants a complete set of ASEs better have about six grand for the 1995-W.. which will leave a lot of complete setters who also like to eat and pay bills with a gaping hole in the book (not that anyone would shove a 1995-W Proof naked into an album.. but who knows.. someone might.. i saw the lowest-graded 2000-W LOC BiMetallic Proof i've ever seen on TeleTrade last week, graded PCGS PR65DCAM.. PR65!?.. but i digress..)..
it's MY opinion, and i think i share it with some others here, while others will vehemently disagree.. that the 2008 Reverse of 2007 ASE has tremendous upside potential, and it ain't nowhere near there yet, and it may not get there for weeks, months, or a couple of years.. or some people will say it'll never get there.. right now it's hot rats, eBay is flooded with them, so they're going cheap.. relatively speaking, if you call $200.00 to $250.00 for a $25.00 coin cheap.. (for a 69)..
there are still too many questions left unanswered.. the fact that the Mint has admitted to the error is a given.. the numbers 45,000 and 47,000 have been bandied about but the question is, how many of those actually got shipped?.. how many of them got bought in bulk by the teevee hucksters and colorized before they knew the error existed?.. how many of them has the Mint caught and unboxed and replaced with 2008 / 2008s?.. none of this is known yet.. the exact numbers THAT STILL EXIST, that aren't marching off to the melting pot may never be known.. pop reports' numbers increase daily.. well duh..
i've got a bunch of 69 ERs and i'm not selling yet.. i might not sell for weeks, months.. years.. i can wait it out.. i've sold too soon before and regretted it for years.. but rarely have i sold too late and missed a window of opportunity.. but i'm not living in a refrigerator box in an alley.. i'm not starving.. i don't have mountains of debt.. i don't NEED a couple hundred bucks THAT badly.. so no matter how many i get, i'll keep at least ONE.. for years..
Harv >>
12 = 12/12 08/07's ord 4/24, packed 4/29, rec'd 5/1
12 = 12/12 08/07's ord 4/25, packed 4/29, rec'd 5/1
OH YAH
12 = 12/12 08/07's ord 4/24, packed 4/29, rec'd 5/1
12 = 12/12 08/07's ord 4/25, packed 4/29, rec'd 5/1
OH YAH
Congratulations :-) Dang. . . still shipping
<< <i>I placed a small order at the Mint for these 5 days ago and although my order states "in stock and reserved" my order is still on hold? Is this typical or are these coins on back order now because everyone is trying to get the 2007 reverse's? >>
Totally normal, call your CC company and make sure the charge will go through. When the cancel box goes away shipment is near.
I will update populations and provide the "Rachel's ratios" that you have cleverly named them as soon as the update.
As they stand now
MS69 - 321
MS70 - 41
If you add the coins I rec'd today...
MS69 - 416
MS70 - 45
I had one reject in the 100 coins did not make MS69.
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May 2nd anyone?
I agree with an earlier poster...let's keep track of how late these are being ordered, shipping, and received.
It should be quite interesting.
I believe anyone that says the faucet is turned off forgets how quality control works at the mint.
As long as these reports keep trickling in there is hope for those that want to order.
But don't order just to return them if you don't get 08/07's!!
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<< <i>Not sure if it's been noted earlier, but it seems that the smaller orders (5 & 10s) are getting a larger percentage of '07 rev. >>
It is the mints new policy of helping the little guy. >>
Bout effen time
Sure would be nice if only 5 or 10k made it out the door.
-69 57/160 35.6%
-70 26/160 16.3
Other 77/160 48.1
<< <i>I ordered a few yesterday, so we'll see. Unlike some here I won't be returning any unless the boxes are damaged. >>
I did the same, ordered 8 on April 30th. It's in process. And I won't be returning either.
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"The reverse design, by United States Mint sculptor John Mercanti, features a striking heraldic eagle with shield, and olive branch in the right talon and arrows in the left. The 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin is encapsulated in plastic, placed in a protective outer box, and accompanied by a custom-designed Certificate of Authenticity."
Link
<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design.....
"The reverse design, by United States Mint sculptor John Mercanti, features a striking heraldic eagle with shield, and olive branch in the right talon and arrows in the left. The 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin is encapsulated in plastic, placed in a protective outer box, and accompanied by a custom-designed Certificate of Authenticity."
Link >>
They even sent out an email with the picture of the 07 Reverse a couple weeks ago.
<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design..... >>
Changing a font and star style isn't a new design....
<< <i>Question: Do the burnished ASE coins have the same problem with milk spots or is it mostly the proof coin? >>
I believe that they do. Oddly enough it doesn't seem to be a problem with commems like the Buffalo dollar, the Bald Eagle dollars , the SF Old Mint, Edison dollars, etc and stuff like that; at least I have never heard it was.
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<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design..... >>
Changing a font and star style isn't a new design.... >>
semmanics...new design, change of design. The design was altered from all previous years but yet, the picture clearly shows the previous years' design. Not the current year.
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<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design.....
"The reverse design, by United States Mint sculptor John Mercanti, features a striking heraldic eagle with shield, and olive branch in the right talon and arrows in the left. The 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin is encapsulated in plastic, placed in a protective outer box, and accompanied by a custom-designed Certificate of Authenticity."
Link >>
They even sent out an email with the picture of the 07 Reverse a couple weeks ago.
What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins.
Everyone continues to send them back and the Mint looks at this as no interest and stops grinding them out.
Ren
<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins.
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know.
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<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins.
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know. >>
Of course that was stated hypothetically but what a great set that would be. Two very popular coins under 50,000 in pop....just dreaming.
Ren
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<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins.
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know. >>
Of course that was stated hypothetically but what a great set that would be. Two very popular coins under 50,000 in pop....just dreaming.
Ren >>
NN news is already reporting mintaes about 190K
<< <i>Got an order for 100 today. Zilch, zip, nada, the box had been opened and resealed with clear tape, presumably at the mint shipping facility. It came from the same isle and bin as the order that had some. >>
I've said this before...the Mint must have some distribution QA people pulling them at the Fulfillment Center or someone is skimming and tossing them on the bay.
Ren
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<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins.
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know. >>
Of course that was stated hypothetically but what a great set that would be. Two very popular coins under 50,000 in pop....just dreaming.
Ren >>
NN news is already reporting mintaes about 190K >>
from the NN emailed newsletter blasted out this morning:
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
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<< <i>What if the 2008 W with 2008 Reverse is the lowest mintage of the two coins.
Bingo. Not that this is my playground, but if they have to buy on the open market and silver does take off and also get physically scarce, minting could be halted early too. They might have supply contracts with future pricing and delivery guaranytees. I don't know. >>
Of course that was stated hypothetically but what a great set that would be. Two very popular coins under 50,000 in pop....just dreaming.
Ren >>
NN news is already reporting mintaes about 190K >>
from the NN emailed newsletter blasted out this morning:
caveat: i don't know what the lag is between the time Dave Harper of NN gets the numbers from the Mint and the time he publishes them, although he publishes figures weekly.. thus i don't know how out-of-date they are by the time they GET published.. where did you get your "about 190K" number?..
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
<< <i>Has anyone stopped to notice the depiction of the 2008 W SAE on the US MINT website is of the 2007 Reverse? The verbage does not indicate a new design.....
"The reverse design, by United States Mint sculptor John Mercanti, features a striking heraldic eagle with shield, and olive branch in the right talon and arrows in the left. The 2008 American Eagle One Ounce Silver Uncirculated Coin is encapsulated in plastic, placed in a protective outer box, and accompanied by a custom-designed Certificate of Authenticity."
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I believe the depiction also shows a OBVERSE of 2007 with a 2008 date on it. I think the mint got lazy and just photoshopped the date in. I think some dealers are doing this also and selling a few more coins or perhapse they just copied the mints photos. I suspect that the reason the die mix up happened is that most employees at the mint are unaware of the change so they thought the 2007 was still usable.
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I believe the depiction also shows a OBVERSE of 2007 with a 2008 date on it. I think the mint got lazy and just photoshopped the date in. I think some dealers are doing this also and selling a few more coins or perhapse they just copied the mints photos. >>
lazy?.. heh.. bingo.. the sold-out Bald Eagle Three-coin Proof set picture on the Mint's Web site STILL shows the Gold piece on the left of the three-coin holder.. it showed it that way from the beginning.. it showed it that way in their snail mail brochure sent out eons ago.. they've never changed that picture and as anyone who owns or has seen one of these sets knows (holding up set).. the Gold piece is in the middle of the clamshell case.. it was never on the left.. that picture from the brochure and on the Web site is most likely an artist's rendering, NOT a photograph.. for some reason (and i think it was a wise decision).. when they went into production, someone decided the Gold piece, obviously the most valuable and important of the three coins, should be the focal piece, thus, in the center of the case.. however, whoever selected the placement of the coins, even WITH that correction, flunked Art 101.. the DollEr and the Half have the birds facing OUT.. they should have been reversed in the case with the birds facing IN.. (i dicussed this previously in the Bald Eagle thread elsewhere on these boreds which has finally petered out after a bajillion postings)..
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
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I got this from the pages of the April 29th Edition
It is now obvious there are two varieties out there for the 2008 W SAE Uncirculated Coin. Is the die with the serif "U" going to be used for only the W mint mark Uncirculated Coin? There has yet to be a visual identification/confirmation of this reverse on the proof W or the bullion SAE. My point: I wonder if the mint will go to the serif version on all SAE's going forward or just the uncirculated coin. If they do the transformation, there may be varieties for the bullion and proof coins later this year...... then here we go again
The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design.
<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's?
Price for raw coins capped at around $225 for now.............
Numbers obtained by searching 2007-2008-reverse
<< <i>For what it is worth the number of 2007/2008 ASE on Ebay is up to 170 from last 7-10 day average of 125.
Price for raw coins capped at around $225 for now.............
Numbers obtained by searching 2007-2008-reverse >>
try searching for "2008 rev* 2007" (without the quotes..) .. because there are some geniuses who can't spel gud and spell "reverse" wrong.. that's why i always refer to "MorgEn DollErs".. if you do an eBay search for those two misspelled words, or either one of them misspelled, thus "MorgEn DollErs", "MorgEn DollArs" or "MorgAn DollErs" you will almost always find some in all three spelling variations.. there's no need to add ASE or Silver Eagles or anything else when searching.. since in my searches i haven't found anything else except these coins come up with a search for "2008 rev* 2007".. in fact, you might even want to try "*08 rev* *07" in case some people aren't using the full four-digit years in their titles.. ya never know
- John Wayne, "The Shootist" (1976.. his final film)..
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<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's? >>
The changes for the 2008 ASE design were meant for all varieties of the ASE. So far the mistake of using a 2007 reverse die was only done on the unc version. No mistakes for the proof or bullion version have been confirmed so far.
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<< <i>For what it is worth the number of 2007/2008 ASE on Ebay is up to 170 from last 7-10 day average of 125.
Price for raw coins capped at around $225 for now.............
Numbers obtained by searching 2007-2008-reverse >>
try searching for "2008 rev* 2007" (without the quotes..) .. because there are some geniuses who can't spel gud and spell "reverse" wrong.. that's why i always refer to "MorgEn DollErs".. if you do an eBay search for those two misspelled words, or either one of them misspelled, thus "MorgEn DollErs", "MorgEn DollArs" or "MorgAn DollErs" you will almost always find some in all three spelling variations.. there's no need to add ASE or Silver Eagles or anything else when searching.. since in my searches i haven't found anything else except these coins come up with a search for "2008 rev* 2007".. in fact, you might even want to try "*08 rev* *07" in case some people aren't using the full four-digit years in their titles.. ya never know
Hek, you mite evun git som beter deels frum those dummys who cant spel.
MS69 - 619
MS70 - 69
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Rachel
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When was order/ship date??
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<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's? >>
The changes for the 2008 ASE design were meant for all varieties of the ASE. So far the mistake of using a 2007 reverse die was only done on the unc version. No mistakes for the proof or bullion version have been confirmed so far. >>
Some BULLION versions were for sale on the BST board.
Have a good one!!!
Have a good one!!! >>
I don't think that was real. I think the seller was really a reseller who thought he had some coming. Correct me if I am wrong. Did anyone actually get one?
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<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's? >>
The changes for the 2008 ASE design were meant for all varieties of the ASE. So far the mistake of using a 2007 reverse die was only done on the unc version. No mistakes for the proof or bullion version have been confirmed so far. >>
Some BULLION versions were for sale on the BST board.
Have a good one!!! >>
I'm all about pictures...please show me.
When was order/ship date??"
Order Date: 04/24/2008 at 09:01 PM
2008 AE SILVER UNC MM 1 OZ 12 $25.95 $311.40 12 units shipped on 05/01/2008
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<< <i>The Mint already stated there was a mistake and maybe 47,000 coins were made.
The new 2008 design IS the design. >>
Pardon my ignorance but is this design just for the unc or all 2008 SAE's? >>
The changes for the 2008 ASE design were meant for all varieties of the ASE. So far the mistake of using a 2007 reverse die was only done on the unc version. No mistakes for the proof or bullion version have been confirmed so far. >>
Some BULLION versions were for sale on the BST board.
Have a good one!!! >>
I'm all about pictures...please show me. >>
I hear that loud & clear. So, any Pictures ?