That's a beautiful set of HOFer RCs you've built, Digicat. I'm working on the set too, here are my latest additions (since I last posted in this thread in Spring 2008):
Yes, and that '55 Koufax also fills a hole for anyone seeking a cool card. Congrats!
I'm thinking about participating in a Baseball HOF Rookies Set. That way, it could include some of the better cards from my childhood ('80s) like Henderson, Ripken, Gwynn, etc. Currently, I'm a young guy that only collects older cards. However, it seems that '80s cards will soon be considered vintage. It looks like 1984 Donruss cards are already garnering a loyal following.
Im not sure how I have missed this thread for the last 6 months that I have been on these boards. The Post War HOFers set is the primary set I am working on. I am looking to build it complete from 1954 to present and will add a couple additional cards (Mantle, Mays, Musial) to my set and end it at that. That would be about a 72% percent completion based on the composition today. Anyway, Hopefully a few of the guys that I know are building this set (Digicat, Paleocards, Shagrotn) will continue to post and we can share our latest pickups. This is my latest acquisition. Bought it really well. $100 below VCP average. Probably a lower end PSA 8, but this is a tough card.
Santo, yeah, maybe, someday. Clemens, umm, probably not anymore.
Part of me hates the fact that I spent money on a Clemens rookie... but it was the last card I needed to complete a full run of 80s sets.. and it goes with my Cy Young and MVP award winner rookie sets. The satisfaction slightly outweighs the self-loathing.
I think Javier Vasquez could have a shot if Bobby Cox can work his magic on him in Atlanta. His wins don't look good at this point in his career, but I can see him potentially getting to 4K Strikeouts if he can stay relatively healthy for the long term. Unless some serious health issues come up in the short run, 3K will be easy for him.
<< <i> think Javier Vasquez could have a shot if Bobby Cox can work his magic on him in Atlanta. >>
I think milestones are in his reach, but he's got to overcome that 4.32 career ERA. Just racking up K's isn't going to cut it, unless he's challanging Nolan Ryan's record.
Bert Blyleven has 287 wins, 3701 strikeouts, a 3.31 ERA, and a 1.198 WHIP, and the Hall voters are giving him a pretty hard time.
<< <i>I wonder if 4K Strikeouts would get him in like a hitters 3K Hits is automatic. >>
Hard to say. There are only 4 guys who have over 4k Strikeouts, and 3 of them have 300+ wins. The other, Randy Johnson, will probably get his 300th win this year.
Vazquez will need to be the best pitcher in baseball for the next several years to be seriously considered. Otherwise, he's just a hard thrower who gets taken deep frequently (1.1 hr per 9 innings pitched).
It seems that despite this set's popularity, fewer Registrants post messages here than on the other sports' HOF RCs Sets. My hat is off to anyone with a high completion percentage of Baseball Postwar HOF RCs, especially those generous enough to share the scans on their Registry.
This is a set that intrigues me, and one I consider starting all the time. It certainly appears as one of the more expensive sets to build, yet has a high reward since it includes lots of the card gems that can almost be dubbed "magical" - the 1951 Mantle, 1951 Mays, 1954 Aaron, 1954 Banks, 1955 Clemente, 1960 Yastrzemski, 1968 Nolan Ryan, 1973 Schmidt, 1979 Ozzie Smith; even the three 1983 Topps HOF RCs are attractive. If anyone has collecting tips for a new collector, I'm eager to listen. What a terrific set!
This is a tough and long-term set when building on a budget. Lots of cards that are high-dollar even in mid grade. I haven't added anything to my set since Febuary.
I've been saving-up my baseball card budget since I pulled the trigger on the Irvin RC last month for a big splurge at the Cleveland National. I know I won't find any bargains there but I'm pretty confident that I'll be able to knock at least a few off of my want-list. How many of you Post-48 HOF RC collectors are planning to be there? Maybe we should get together over a beer and share our "war stories"...
I'd love to go, but it wouldn't so me much good since I'd be bringing no money with me. I've added quite a few cards over the last 2 months, but the spree is over for now.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
This is impressive! Nice bright tone to the Palmer rookie, and stellar Nolan Ryan RC in an 8. The Ryan is a nice '8' at that. What a celebrated biggest card to come away from the show with! The three cards certainly validate a trip to The National however far you travelled.
It looks like you're on the brink of having a Top 25 assembly of Postwar Baseball HOF Rookies collection. Congratulations and thanks for sharing the scans here and on the Registry.
I only have a few cards that would fit into this set and consider starting sometime. You know how it is with sports card collecting; there's always a host of "distractions" (other cards).
The registration and brightness are terrific on that Monte Irvin scan posted above. Congratulations on that one and thanks for sharing it here.
As for Halladay - he's been terrific. Racking up the complete games makes him such a throwback in this era of the specialist. However, 140-some career wins seems much too soon for anointing one a future Hall Of Famer.
I've slowed down on this set as the cards are definately getting very difficult to acquire in high grade on a budget. Here is the only purchase I made towards my Post War HOFers set at the National. I was looking for a PSA 8 Gaylord Perry to complete the run from 1959 to the present, but was unable to find one.
Matt, that's a fine-looking Berra rookie card, congratulations. Berra's cards seem curiously underappreciated to me. His stats are eye-popping, especially for a catcher. It's not like he played for an off-the-radar team....this is the New York Yankees. You would think his contemporaneous accolades and accomplishment would earn him more respect on cardboard, even more so since he's stayed in public conscience a long-running commercial pitchman. His one-liner oxymorons are quoted all the time today. These facts have not been lost on my collector brother, whom is buying up plenty of Berras lately.
Nice work on grabbing a Near Mint copy. The '48 Bowman Berra is one of the most important cards of this set.
<< <i>The '48 Bowman Berra is one of the most important cards of this set. >>
There are alot of landmark cards in this set for sure. I think the Berra is a little undervalued, especially when you see how few of these cards exsist in PSA 7 or greater grade.
Added a Mazeroski Rookie from Dave Gwinn (Gwinny).
Very nicely centered Maz rookie. Congrats on the pickup.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Latest acquisitions to my Post War HOF Rookies Set. I can't run with the big boys, and these two cards will tap me out for a while, but I really enjoy putting this set together.
Dude, way to knock 'em out the box. Congrats, Matt.
These cards look museum-esque in quality with even tones, bright tempers, and solid registration. These are just fantastic. It took a while for me to appreciate it, but the 1948 Bowman's simplistic black-and-white design with obverses devoid of typeface actually check in mega-cool because they just look so darn old.
Also, one only need look at VCP to see that the values of these cards have not only survived - but thrived in the recession. (They've certainly done a lot better than most football cards I've bought). Amazing.
The Musial and Spahn take it a level above and beyond the Berra that you landed earlier. I'm glad that you have shared the scans. Congrats on being a Top 20 guy.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
<< <i>Don't worry I wont be catching you! I saw where you picked up that Red. Tough card in that grade. >>
It certanly is. I have a dupe 8 that I will be listing on eBay in a week or so.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Over the weekend I was at a card show in Anchorage. One of the more impressive cards for sale was a 1980 Topps Rickey Henderson PSA Gem Mint 10 (and POP 10). It got me thinking about the Baseball Postwar HOF Rookies Registry Set.
I've long considered starting it (Matt, your recent post of the '48 Bowman Musial and Spahn tease me). If I do, it won't be anytime soon because I can only have so many focuses at once. It is an impressive Set Composite, including so many "whales" of the hobby. Its compact 77-card size makes it even more collectible to me. Hats off to anyone doing it. It appears to me that Hall Of Fame rookie sets for all sports are highly desirable to collect. They are interesting to me personally and it certainly shows more concretely with burgeoning participation numbers. I think that potentially, the future for any major sport's HOF RC cards are bright - popular, desirable, and valuable for a long time.
For those of you that haven't seen Matt's (MBMiller25) Postwar Baseball HOF RCs set, it is worth viewing. He is building a thing of beauty and the scans look terrific.
Although I own a different PSA 9 of this card now, here's one of the few cards I own that fit the Composite:
<< <i>For those of you that haven't seen Matt's (MBMiller25) Postwar Baseball HOF RCs set, it is worth viewing. He is building a thing of beauty and the scans look terrific. >>
Thanks very much Weinhold, I hope to see you building this registry set sometime soon. There are some great guys on these boards that are building the Post War HOF RC set in very high grade.
Wanted to show off a recent pickup that I atually got from one of the guys on the boards (Jay Grote) that happens to own the #12 set overall in Post War HOFers. This is a really tough card in PSA 8. There have been 5 recorded sales over the past three years on VCP of this card in PSA 8. Jay gave me a great price, and a great card.
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
I'm with you Rich. NO on all of them. Whoever requested these additions obviously doesn't track the annual voting. These were all good players, but none of them have a chance to get into the HOF. And Mattingly's best rookie is '84 Donruss, not '84 Fleer, as you mentioned.
2009 Baseball HOF Voting
Name % of Votes Henderson, Rickey 94.8% Rice, Jim 76.4% Dawson, Andre 67% Blyleven, Bert 62.7% Smith, Lee 44.5% Morris, Jack 44% John, Tommy 31.7% Raines, Tim 22.6% McGwire, Mark 21.9% Trammell, Alan 17.4% Parker, Dave 15% Mattingly, Don 11.9% Murphy, Dale 11.5% Baines, Harold 5.9%
"My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
Good eye, batter! That Nellie Fox card is certainly one handsome example. Congratulations on yet another stellar pickup. Apparently you have an aversion to owning anything less than a beautiful card.
The recent SMR article about 1951 Bowmans certainly got me in an admirable mood for those cards. My brother has scooped up some 1951 Bowman Mays cards lately, so I guess his representing the family has quenched my thirst just enough. There certainly are some great '51s that reside in this Set Composite. Thanks for sharing, yet again. -Keith
I agree. All 5 of those guys were very good. As a yankee fan I would love to see Donnie in. But I don't think any of them will make it and as time goes they will eventually wash off the poll.
I see Dawson getting soon.
Some guys on the distant horizon. Wondering what is their best RC?
mauer morneau lincecum utley young
Maybe some of you others can add a few distant potentials.
Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets 1948-76 Topps FB Sets FB & BB HOF Player sets 1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
My latest pickup for the Post War HOFers set. Ive been looking for this card for a while. Centering on this card is REALLY tough, didnt really realize it would be that hard. Anyway, got this from Steve Hart at BBCE. Steve gave me a great deal once again.
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Anyways, a new addition to my Future HoF set...
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
If Berkman posts some solid numbers again this year, maybe he'll win folks over?
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
Anyways, a few new additions...
I sold off my PSA 8.5 George Brett rookie and used the funds (plus $50) to get the following:
My new Brett RC has 9ish corners but 8ish t/b centering. I'm happy.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
First, some modern RCs in 9...
Next, a couple of vintage RCs in 8...
Finally, 4 of the 5 '57 HOFer RCs in 8...
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
I'm thinking about participating in a Baseball HOF Rookies Set. That way, it could include some of the better cards from my childhood ('80s) like Henderson, Ripken, Gwynn, etc. Currently, I'm a young guy that only collects older cards. However, it seems that '80s cards will soon be considered vintage. It looks like 1984 Donruss cards are already garnering a loyal following.
Thanks for sharing your scan.
Santo, yeah, maybe, someday. Clemens, umm, probably not anymore.
Part of me hates the fact that I spent money on a Clemens rookie... but it was the last card I needed to complete a full run of 80s sets.. and it goes with my Cy Young and MVP award winner rookie sets. The satisfaction slightly outweighs the self-loathing.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
I think Javier Vasquez could have a shot if Bobby Cox can work his magic on him in Atlanta. His wins don't look good at this point in his career, but I can see him potentially getting to 4K Strikeouts if he can stay relatively healthy for the long term. Unless some serious health issues come up in the short run, 3K will be easy for him.
the '62 Brock is about as nice a picture as it gets. I've seen PSA 9's that have been more blurry a picture.
I sold my PSA 7 a couple months ago without an upgrade just because the picture was sooooo blurry!!!
<< <i> think Javier Vasquez could have a shot if Bobby Cox can work his magic on him in Atlanta. >>
I think milestones are in his reach, but he's got to overcome that 4.32 career ERA. Just racking up K's isn't going to cut it, unless he's challanging Nolan Ryan's record.
Bert Blyleven has 287 wins, 3701 strikeouts, a 3.31 ERA, and a 1.198 WHIP, and the Hall voters are giving him a pretty hard time.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
I wonder if 4K Strikeouts would get him in like a hitters 3K Hits is automatic.
I think Blyleven will get in before all is said and done.
<< <i>I wonder if 4K Strikeouts would get him in like a hitters 3K Hits is automatic. >>
Hard to say. There are only 4 guys who have over 4k Strikeouts, and 3 of them have 300+ wins. The other, Randy Johnson, will probably get his 300th win this year.
Vazquez will need to be the best pitcher in baseball for the next several years to be seriously considered. Otherwise, he's just a hard thrower who gets taken deep frequently (1.1 hr per 9 innings pitched).
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
This thread's been dormant for a while, any new pick-ups from Matt, digicat, shag...?
This is a set that intrigues me, and one I consider starting all the time. It certainly appears as one of the more expensive sets to build, yet has a high reward since it includes lots of the card gems that can almost be dubbed "magical" - the 1951 Mantle, 1951 Mays, 1954 Aaron, 1954 Banks, 1955 Clemente, 1960 Yastrzemski, 1968 Nolan Ryan, 1973 Schmidt, 1979 Ozzie Smith; even the three 1983 Topps HOF RCs are attractive. If anyone has collecting tips for a new collector, I'm eager to listen. What a terrific set!
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
It looks like you're on the brink of having a Top 25 assembly of Postwar Baseball HOF Rookies collection. Congratulations and thanks for sharing the scans here and on the Registry.
I only have a few cards that would fit into this set and consider starting sometime. You know how it is with sports card collecting; there's always a host of "distractions" (other cards).
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
As for Halladay - he's been terrific. Racking up the complete games makes him such a throwback in this era of the specialist. However, 140-some career wins seems much too soon for anointing one a future Hall Of Famer.
Nice work on grabbing a Near Mint copy. The '48 Bowman Berra is one of the most important cards of this set.
<< <i>The '48 Bowman Berra is one of the most important cards of this set. >>
There are alot of landmark cards in this set for sure. I think the Berra is a little undervalued, especially when you see how few of these cards exsist in PSA 7 or greater grade.
Added a Mazeroski Rookie from Dave Gwinn (Gwinny).
These cards look museum-esque in quality with even tones, bright tempers, and solid registration. These are just fantastic. It took a while for me to appreciate it, but the 1948 Bowman's simplistic black-and-white design with obverses devoid of typeface actually check in mega-cool because they just look so darn old.
Also, one only need look at VCP to see that the values of these cards have not only survived - but thrived in the recession. (They've certainly done a lot better than most football cards I've bought). Amazing.
The Musial and Spahn take it a level above and beyond the Berra that you landed earlier. I'm glad that you have shared the scans. Congrats on being a Top 20 guy.
<< <i> I'm glad that you have shared the scans. Congrats on being a Top 20 guy. >>
Thank you very much, You're very kind.
<< <i>Congrats on being a Top 20 guy. >>
Just don't pass the guy in 13th place
<< <i>Just don't pass the guy in 13th place >>
Don't worry I wont be catching you! I saw where you picked up that Red. Tough card in that grade.
<< <i>Don't worry I wont be catching you! I saw where you picked up that Red. Tough card in that grade. >>
It certanly is. I have a dupe 8 that I will be listing on eBay in a week or so.
I've long considered starting it (Matt, your recent post of the '48 Bowman Musial and Spahn tease me). If I do, it won't be anytime soon because I can only have so many focuses at once. It is an impressive Set Composite, including so many "whales" of the hobby. Its compact 77-card size makes it even more collectible to me. Hats off to anyone doing it. It appears to me that Hall Of Fame rookie sets for all sports are highly desirable to collect. They are interesting to me personally and it certainly shows more concretely with burgeoning participation numbers. I think that potentially, the future for any major sport's HOF RC cards are bright - popular, desirable, and valuable for a long time.
For those of you that haven't seen Matt's (MBMiller25) Postwar Baseball HOF RCs set, it is worth viewing. He is building a thing of beauty and the scans look terrific.
Although I own a different PSA 9 of this card now, here's one of the few cards I own that fit the Composite:
<< <i>For those of you that haven't seen Matt's (MBMiller25) Postwar Baseball HOF RCs set, it is worth viewing. He is building a thing of beauty and the scans look terrific. >>
Thanks very much Weinhold, I hope to see you building this registry set sometime soon. There are some great guys on these boards that are building the Post War HOF RC set in very high grade.
Wanted to show off a recent pickup that I atually got from one of the guys on the boards (Jay Grote) that happens to own the #12 set overall in Post War HOFers. This is a really tough card in PSA 8. There have been 5 recorded sales over the past three years on VCP of this card in PSA 8. Jay gave me a great price, and a great card.
Jay, Thanks Alot!
<< <i>My new toy >>
I saw on the registry where you picked up that PSA 8 Berra. Was curious to know if you were going to show it off to the rest of us. Very nice.
Nice acquisitions, boys.
1. TOMMY JOHN – 1964 TOPPS #146
2. DAVE PARKER – 1974 TOPPS #252
3. DALE MURPHY – 1977 TOPPS #476
4. HAROLD BAINES – 1981 TOPPS #347
5. DON MATTINGLY – 1984 FLEER #131
The 84 Fleer Mattingly is a bad pick, as his 1984 Donruss card is his key, but I voted NO for everyone anyway.
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25
2009 Baseball HOF Voting
Name % of Votes
Henderson, Rickey 94.8%
Rice, Jim 76.4%
Dawson, Andre 67%
Blyleven, Bert 62.7%
Smith, Lee 44.5%
Morris, Jack 44%
John, Tommy 31.7%
Raines, Tim 22.6%
McGwire, Mark 21.9%
Trammell, Alan 17.4%
Parker, Dave 15%
Mattingly, Don 11.9%
Murphy, Dale 11.5%
Baines, Harold 5.9%
Good eye, batter! That Nellie Fox card is certainly one handsome example. Congratulations on yet another stellar pickup. Apparently you have an aversion to owning anything less than a beautiful card.
The recent SMR article about 1951 Bowmans certainly got me in an admirable mood for those cards. My brother has scooped up some 1951 Bowman Mays cards lately, so I guess his representing the family has quenched my thirst just enough. There certainly are some great '51s that reside in this Set Composite. Thanks for sharing, yet again. -Keith
All 5 of those guys were very good. As a yankee fan I would love to see Donnie in. But I don't think any of them will make it and as time goes they will eventually wash off the poll.
I see Dawson getting soon.
Some guys on the distant horizon. Wondering what is their best RC?
mauer
morneau
lincecum
utley
young
Maybe some of you others can add a few distant potentials.
1948-76 Topps FB Sets
FB & BB HOF Player sets
1948-1993 NY Yankee Team Sets
WTB: 2001 Leaf Rookies & Stars Longevity: Ryan Jensen #/25