<< <i>Coinkid, my hat's off to you! You have more huevos than a lot of "adult" posters here in laying out what happened to you and by WHO!
I am sorry you went through that but it sounds like they aren't the ones you would want to deal with anyway.
Are they ANA/PNG members? Anything? If so, I wouldn't be above contacting those orgs about this shop/people and stating what happened and that it is sad they are treating YNs like that (or anyone).
Do you know any other local YNs? Do they have the same experience?
There are a few things i would do, but it wouldn't be nice of me to post them >>
Thanks a lot...I'm sure they're ANA/PNG members, but I don't know their membership numbers. Perhaps I will give the ANA a call....
I don't know any other YN's, but I do know a local collector who won't shop there either....
I'll make a point of stopping by their table at FUN and being annoying as I can. And not buy a thing. I'd contribute $50 towards a run of T-shirts that say: "Proudly banned for one year by A-Coins, Jacksonville, FL." Of course the shirt colors would resemble prison garb.
The sooner you run away from jerks like this the better. You won't learn what you need to know and they will continually try to beat you on every deal they do. Spread your wings and sample dealers that will help mentor your hobby. Maybe you come back to them in 10 years and cherry pick the snot out of them (unrecognized of course).
I agree, everyone should stroll on by their table and respond "Oh, your the jerks I read about" and keep on strolling by not buying an thing an loud enough so any customer nearby can hear. And Since I will not be able to attend Fun, I will print this off and mail it to the owner of the shop so he can get an idea as to what is coming his way in the form of a little less business in 2008.
WS
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<< <i>I agree, everyone should stroll on by their table and respond "Oh, your the jerks I read about" and keep on strolling by not buying an thing an loud enough so any customer nearby can hear. And Since I will not be able to attend Fun, I will print this off and mail it to the owner of the shop so he can get an idea as to what is coming his way in the form of a little less business in 2008.
<< <i>How about a hats off to the dealers that treat YN's and newbies right?
Call out some of the good guys: >>
I have met many very nice dealers over the years. Here's what I'm going to do....At FUN, I will be wandering around a lot, and I'll be making a list. Good dealers and bad dealers, for YN's, of course. I already know of one awesome dealer but unfortunately I can't remember his name. I'm sure I'll see him at FUN and I'll put him at the top of my "nice" list.
This guy was at the last FUN show and if I found a VAM, I would run over and show it to him and see what he thought about it, because he knows his stuff. He's an awesome guy, because I think I've only spent about 20 bucks with him over three shows...lol. All of his coins are expensive error coins=(... But, he is one of the nicest guys you'll meet at a coin show, that's for sure. I'll make sure to get his information to you guys.
Wonder if he has a website that I could send my thoughts on the contact us page?
I am only 37 and have been collecting since I was 10. I have had similar experiences. Used to ride my bike up to the corner jerk and spend my 2 dollars on whatever I could buy. Everytime he would treat me like crap, but he was the only place I knew of to buy coins. Then I found another shop where the guy would sit for an hour and explain every little detail about the hobby to me. The guy was great and probably gave me $4 free for every $2 I spent. Those $2 weekly purchases, many years later, turned into $20k-$30k a year purchases and still got awsome deals and the coin talk. Worth every penny I spent with him. Now that I have the money, I can't find another oldtime dealer like that, go figure.
i myself am 25, and a hard core collector. i too have had these types of dealers, heree in cleveland, and at the big shows. chalk it up to someone making a quick 10%. they are not collectors at all. they are like pawn shop owners, no offense if theyre any present.
i dont go to stores anymore, they are all but dead here. i like the online way better. much more options. its a shame that this happend to you. i know the feeling.
funny side story though, after i got hurt at work, i got a nice check. i went to the one a-- that judged me and blew me off. i was looking at a 19000 laf. commem. and a few other major keys in high grades . he said can i afford any of them and i pulled out a 10000 lincoln cent and about 15000 cash. i was going to the bank. his face dropped and he tried real hard to kiss my....
anyway, call the big guys you read about and stick to the guys here on the boards. its the way i do it and have not had any issues with yet. it may not be perfect, but if a dealer is here, it means he's probably a collector too. i wont deal with a noncollector for coins anymore.
i dont say that to take away from all dealers, just the ones ive meet. and they KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
ill spend my 50 else where...
food luck and maybe one day these guys will think, wait all the older guys are gone, wheres our buisness?
Thank you to everyone who will be calling them. I know a guy that deals with coins in my area. I called him and he is going to be heading over to A-hole-coin (clever, huh?) to ask to see what I asked to see to see if he lets him see them. (I put in all those see's for fun. ) I can't wait to see what happens!
Someone SHOULD stop by their table and just ask them, without being outwardly rude at the start, if they remember the incident and WHY they acted as they did. Then, maybe they will realize the bad press they get for being jerks.
For the record, there are no PNG members from Jacksonville, FL.
Since we're talking about age, I am 27 years old, a full time coin dealer and a full member of the PNG.
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I've also had bad experiences too with dealers, even in California... And still feel like an outsider by some dealers at local coin shows even as of today. I may be in my thirties, but my appearence makes me look like I'm still in my teens & early twenties, making me look young & poor. Whenever I look at the gold coin tables at the shows, I sometimes get that smerk-look from dealers thinking I don't have enough $$$ to buy from them. I always carry plenty of cash, credit cards, and bank checks whenever I attend a show. I'm currently a longshoreman making over $80k - 100k /year, so I just shrugged those bad/discriminative dealers off with a "cold shoulder", and head to a "down-to-earth dealer I can relate to, and spend that hard-earned $$$ with them...
no prob. i will. i dont know why guys are like this, i know i may look ruff sometimes, but i usually spend a few grand on most any purchases. if my green aint their shade of green, fine, someone will be happy.
these are the types of guys i think buy all the stolen stuff. it would be great to find that out in the local paper," coin fence brought to justice by yn..."
i giggle aliitle at the thought.
i will be calling after the holidays though, and so will evryother coin buff i know...
coinkid, You can chalk this up to a life learning experience, unfortunately there are people who are narrow-minded. You sound like you are a great guy, don't let this bad experience get you down. Good luck and forget about this dealer!
Robert.
Enthusiastic collector of British pre-decimal and Canadian decimal circulation coins.
This could be a ruse ya know. Especially after everyone hears the otherside of the story and ends up buying something from #949. Not that the kid hasn't told a great story to make me feel bad about his or-deal but it so close to SHOWTIME!
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
Why is it that collectibles seem to attract some of the most twitchy, socially maladjusted people in the population? Before you get your panties in a bunch at my generalization, please hear me out:
I also collect stamps and have the occasion to hit stamp shows and dealers, and if there's one thing both coin and stamp collecting have in common, it's the seemingly high percentage of participants that are about 3 degrees off-center (and yes I include myself in that population ). Whether it's the guy who looks like he lives in his parents' basement that won't make eye contact with you, or it's the rude and abrasive carmudgeon that can't be bothered with your trifling business because the world owes him, it seems like there's an overabundance of people who lack social graces.
Is it that the retail or show experience sours them to the world at large?
Or does collecting naturally attract the obsessive compulsive socially awkward?
Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of dealers that are great guys as well (I consider my local dealer one of them) that are very outgoing and realize that being polite and engaging is important when it comes to customer service, but I'm not always sure they're in the majority.
When I first started collecting coins in the early '90s I was pi$$ poor and could only spend a few bucks (literally) at a time with my local dealer. Nevertheless, he encouraged me. Fast forward 15 years, and while I am by no means anywhere near the top of his list of clients, I spend $5K+ a year in his shop. What started as pain-in-the-ass mickey mouse purchases has grown to something a bit more substantial (I'm still a pain in the ass though).
My local dealer has said on more than one occasion that the nickel and dime customer of today may want to spend ten grand in a few years... or have an inheritance to displose of... or may have someone ask them who to come to... you just never know.
sorry about that its been a long day. well than could you tell me if its easy enough to sell on ebay? i have some stuff id like to upgrade and well make some money for new coins, but i have never sold anything yet. without feed back its tough, but id really like to learn. any tips are helpful.
When I was growing up I had a similar experience at the only local coin shop in my town at the time. I never had the kind of cash that you did, but the owner really seemed to dislike kids, and would go out of his way to ignore me. Usually all I wanted was to go through his bowls of circ IHC's and Buffaloes to look for coins for my albums, and the guy acted as if he was doing me a huge favor every time I asked to see them. I rarely had more than 5 bucks to spend. For my birthday one year, my Dad took me in to his shop, and told me to pick out a coin for my collection. The guy must not have known we were together- my Dad was looking at the guns and accessories on the other side of the shop. I asked the guy to pull a nice 1908-S IHC from behind the display that I needed for the hole in my album, and the guy says to me "Money talks, and bulls@#t walks, kid". I was 12 years old at the time. My Dad heard the guy and absolutely lit into him. I had never seen my father so angry at someone (other than me or my brother). The funny thing is, my Dad sticking up for me to another adult was a better birthday present than the coin would have ever been, even though at the time I was scared and embarrassed. I'm sorry that sort of attitude toward YN's is still around, Coinkid. Remember though that there are jerks in any profession- take your business elsewhere. In the long run, it will be the shop owner who loses.
"College men from LSU- went in dumb, come out dumb too..." -Randy Newman
<< <i>This could be a ruse ya know. Especially after everyone hears the otherside of the story and ends up buying something from #949. Not that the kid hasn't told a great story to make me feel bad about his or-deal but it so close to SHOWTIME!
Leo >>
It certainly would be nice to hear the rest of the story!
Those same dealers will be wondering why their business is tanking just a few years down the road. Those kinds don't do well in anything but a sharply increasing market.
What is the other side to this story. Did this Y/N wear soiled pants and had bad breath that day? Did this Y/N have no clue what he was doing in that store that day, just looking at every kind of coin and not focusing on a certain type of coin. Lastly did this Y/N have a drip cup and a bike helmet with a sticker on it saying I like strawberries.
Well here is my take. No business should lack plain old customer service, I don't give a rats smelly opening that if a person has $20,000 and a Y/N or anyone that has a C note to spend, that person with the C note will keep you in business way longer than the BIG SPENDER!!
Because you know damn well the profit you make off of a huge coin sale is way less than 1000 small sales over a period of a year. I'm sorry for a coin company to treat you like this. I know how you feel, I can't even get the right condenments on my freakin sandwich when I go to Wendys, so I feel ya. You just happen to get real bad customer service. DOn't give up on other coin shops or dealers there are some very nice people selling coins.
<< <i>Why is it that collectibles seem to attract some of the most twitchy, socially maladjusted people in the population? Before you get your panties in a bunch at my generalization, please hear me out:
I also collect stamps and have the occasion to hit stamp shows and dealers, and if there's one thing both coin and stamp collecting have in common, it's the seemingly high percentage of participants that are about 3 degrees off-center (and yes I include myself in that population ). Whether it's the guy who looks like he lives in his parents' basement that won't make eye contact with you, or it's the rude and abrasive carmudgeon that can't be bothered with your trifling business because the world owes him, it seems like there's an overabundance of people who lack social graces.
Is it that the retail or show experience sours them to the world at large?
Or does collecting naturally attract the obsessive compulsive socially awkward?
Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of dealers that are great guys as well (I consider my local dealer one of them) that are very outgoing and realize that being polite and engaging is important when it comes to customer service, but I'm not always sure they're in the majority.
When I first started collecting coins in the early '90s I was pi$$ poor and could only spend a few bucks (literally) at a time with my local dealer. Nevertheless, he encouraged me. Fast forward 15 years, and while I am by no means anywhere near the top of his list of clients, I spend $5K+ a year in his shop. What started as pain-in-the-ass mickey mouse purchases has grown to something a bit more substantial (I'm still a pain in the ass though).
My local dealer has said on more than one occasion that the nickel and dime customer of today may want to spend ten grand in a few years... or have an inheritance to displose of... or may have someone ask them who to come to... you just never know. >>
Thanks Yaha....There's no way I'm going to stop going to stores/shows =p I know there are many dealers who welcome everyone, not just rich people....=/
And to everyone who doubts me, give them a call. I'm sure Chip will either make up a story or hang up on you.
<< <i>Hey everyone, I wanted to just warn everyone about the people at A-Coin in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm a YN, and they apparently do not know how to treat their customers right. A-Coin is the closest coin store to me, and today I left my volunteering job early so I could stop by and check out their Morgans (I wanted to buy a few for my set-in-progress). Anyways, I've had some previous problems with them before, such as them selling me coins that were cleaned when they didn't warn me about it (I was younger) and much of their coins are overpriced. Anyways, getting back today, I walked in and there was a group of about 3 people there. I was walking around looking at the displays until they left. Right after they left, I walked over to Chip, the assistant to the owner.
Anyways, I asked him if I could see some graded 62-63 Morgans. He gives me some crap about how they're too busy to do it at this time of the year.I look around. I'm the only one in the store. So I ask him why I can't see them, because I'm the only one in the store. He then goes on explaining that "at any moment, we could have someone walk in that's a $20,000 deal, and they will leave if they see you with the Morgans spread out on the table." Obviously then, he was discriminating against me as a YN, because I don't have enough money for him apparently (I had $1100, cash....) The whole time this is going on, the owner is watching, not saying a word. So I tell him that I won't be coming back and he just says "I don't care, I don't care! This isn't Walmart!"...So I left and I was fuming.
I got home and told my parents, and they agreed that I should call back and try to talk to the owner. So I call and Chip picks up. This is what I actually said. "Um, Hello, could I speak to the owner please?" and Chip screams "NO!' and hangs up the phone!! Can you believe that!!?? What a jerk! I was sitting there thinking about what I should do next, and the phone rings. It's A-Coin. I pick it up and it's Chip, explaining "Sorry, we had another customer." Another customer??? Are you kidding me!!?? He SLAMMED the phone down after screaming at me! What a LIAR!
I then ask him why he wouldn't let me look at Morgans while I was there, and I explained that i was ready to buy. He tells me again that he doesn't care, and he tells me that they don't have any Morgans for me to look at! What is he shovelling? It was a completely different excuse than what he gave me earlier! I point that out to him, and he tells me that I am no longer welcome in the store for one year...(haha, not as if I was going back anyways....)
So, in closing, STAY AWAY FROM A-COIN!! THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU AT ALL UNLESS YOU'RE LOADED!
Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest, because I am still MAD.... >>
I hate it when a idiot dealer gets nasty with YN's. I had that happen to me when I started collecting (long before I became a dealer). Doesn't these schmucks know that the YN's have the potential to be their future business. Apparently, A-Coin has very low standards when it comes to customer service and respect for the individual. I wonder if they discriminate against African-Americans and Hispanics (espcially those from Cuba)? At least here at Doran Coins, YN's and everyone else are very much welcomed. And it sounds like the owner of the business is lacking a couple of things (brains is one, and you can guess the other thing.)
Coinkid855, I would do whatever it takes to make sure these schmucks lose their business big time.
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Thanks a lot Dorancoins, Perhaps you could just give them a call and ask them about my incident. I would love to hear back about what Chip's explanation of the day is.
"I have learned that it is impossible to judge by looks alone how financially wealthy somebody is. Often times it's the folks you would least expect to have loads of money who are the ones who actually do."
Sam Walton, founder of Walmart was a billionaire who drove around in a beatup looking pickup truck, dressed casually and often ate at fast food places. If you didn't know who he was you never would have guessed by outward appearances.
<< <i>"I have learned that it is impossible to judge by looks alone how financially wealthy somebody is. Often times it's the folks you would least expect to have loads of money who are the ones who actually do."
Sam Walton, founder of Walmart was a billionaire who drove around in a beatup looking pickup truck, dressed casually and often ate at fast food places. If you didn't know who he was you never would have guessed by outward appearances. >>
Soo true. As a matter of fact when they opened up our Walmart many years ago he was there sacking bags of all things. Was a real treat to get the meet the man. I was very young, but my mom tells me fond things about him. Needless to say I bet he would be soo displeased at what walmart has become.
Well , I just called and the person answering the phone told me that this young kid was on the phone leaving profanities on the answering machine. Coinkid , is this true? remember --TREAT PEOPLE HOW YOU WANT TO BE TREATED! I'm not trying to defend this CHIP PERSON AS HE TRULY SOUNDS LIKE AN ---HOLE. please tell us did you leave a nasty message and what did you say? Also the person answering the phone said that CHIP would be in at 11:00 AM
<< <i>What is the other side to this story. Did this Y/N wear soiled pants and had bad breath that day? Did this Y/N have no clue what he was doing in that store that day, just looking at every kind of coin and not focusing on a certain type of coin. Lastly did this Y/N have a drip cup and a bike helmet with a sticker on it saying I like strawberries.
Well here is my take. No business should lack plain old customer service, I don't give a rats smelly opening that if a person has $20,000 and a Y/N or anyone that has a C note to spend, that person with the C note will keep you in business way longer than the BIG SPENDER!!
Because you know damn well the profit you make off of a huge coin sale is way less than 1000 small sales over a period of a year. I'm sorry for a coin company to treat you like this. I know how you feel, I can't even get the right condenments on my freakin sandwich when I go to Wendys, so I feel ya. You just happen to get real bad customer service. DOn't give up on other coin shops or dealers there are some very nice people selling coins. >>
Some people care about what other people think Worry about what they say Let a little gossip coming from a loose lip ruin a perfect day Saying, blah, blah, blah, just a jacking their jaws Got to let it roll off-a my back I don't give a darn what other people think What do you think about that?
What I'm saying is that we've heard nothing but one side of a story. Why not invite the dealer here to hear his side and then make an objective decision??
Comments
<< <i>Coinkid, my hat's off to you!
You have more huevos than a lot of "adult" posters here in laying out what happened to you and by WHO!
I am sorry you went through that but it sounds like they aren't the ones you would want to deal with anyway.
Are they ANA/PNG members? Anything? If so, I wouldn't be above contacting those orgs about this shop/people and stating what happened and that it is sad they are treating YNs like that (or anyone).
Do you know any other local YNs? Do they have the same experience?
There are a few things i would do, but it wouldn't be nice of me to post them
Thanks a lot...I'm sure they're ANA/PNG members, but I don't know their membership numbers. Perhaps I will give the ANA a call....
I don't know any other YN's, but I do know a local collector who won't shop there either....
-Paul
I'd contribute $50 towards a run of T-shirts that say: "Proudly banned for one year by A-Coins, Jacksonville, FL."
Of course the shirt colors would resemble prison garb.
The sooner you run away from jerks like this the better. You won't learn what you need to know and they will continually try to beat you on every deal they do. Spread your wings and sample dealers that will help mentor your hobby. Maybe you come back to them in 10 years and cherry pick the snot out of them (unrecognized of course).
roadrunner
Great customer service is a vital part of any well established and profitable business.
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Call out some of the good guys:
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<< <i>I agree, everyone should stroll on by their table and respond "Oh, your the jerks I read about" and keep on strolling by not buying an thing an loud enough so any customer nearby can hear. And Since I will not be able to attend Fun, I will print this off and mail it to the owner of the shop so he can get an idea as to what is coming his way in the form of a little less business in 2008.
WS >>
CLASSIC! I would enjoy that SO much....lol
Signed,
COINB0Y
<< <i>How about a hats off to the dealers that treat YN's and newbies right?
Call out some of the good guys: >>
I have met many very nice dealers over the years. Here's what I'm going to do....At FUN, I will be wandering around a lot, and I'll be making a list. Good dealers and bad dealers, for YN's, of course. I already know of one awesome dealer but unfortunately I can't remember his name. I'm sure I'll see him at FUN and I'll put him at the top of my "nice" list.
This guy was at the last FUN show and if I found a VAM, I would run over and show it to him and see what he thought about it, because he knows his stuff. He's an awesome guy, because I think I've only spent about 20 bucks with him over three shows...lol. All of his coins are expensive error coins=(... But, he is one of the nicest guys you'll meet at a coin show, that's for sure. I'll make sure to get his information to you guys.
-Paul
and wonderful :-(
I am only 37 and have been collecting since I was 10. I have had similar experiences. Used to ride my bike up to the corner jerk and spend my 2 dollars on whatever I could buy. Everytime he would treat me like crap, but he was the only place I knew of to buy coins. Then I found another shop where the guy would sit for an hour and explain every little detail about the hobby to me. The guy was great and probably gave me $4 free for every $2 I spent. Those $2 weekly purchases, many years later, turned into $20k-$30k a year purchases and still got awsome deals and the coin talk. Worth every penny I spent with him. Now that I have the money, I can't find another oldtime dealer like that, go figure.
i myself am 25, and a hard core collector. i too have had these types of dealers, heree in cleveland, and at the big shows. chalk it up to someone making a quick 10%. they are not collectors at all. they are like pawn shop owners, no offense if theyre any present.
i dont go to stores anymore, they are all but dead here. i like the online way better. much more options. its a shame that this happend to you.
i know the feeling.
funny side story though, after i got hurt at work, i got a nice check. i went to the one a-- that judged me and blew me off. i was looking at a 19000 laf. commem. and a few other major keys in high grades . he said can i afford any of them and i pulled out a 10000 lincoln cent and about 15000 cash. i was going to the bank. his face dropped and he tried real hard to kiss my....
anyway, call the big guys you read about and stick to the guys here on the boards. its the way i do it and have not had any issues with yet. it may not be perfect, but if a dealer is here, it means he's probably a collector too. i wont deal with a noncollector for coins anymore.
i dont say that to take away from all dealers, just the ones ive meet. and they KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
ill spend my 50 else where...
food luck and maybe one day these guys will think, wait all the older guys are gone, wheres our buisness?
i relish the thought...
adam
Sorry to hear about your tale!!!!
Go talk to Emory at Edgewood, and tell him the Ikeman sent you.
He is one of the best people in the coin business, and will give you all the time you need.
If that's not the case, I'll give you a MS63 Morgan!!!!....Then I'll get it from Emory.
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<< <i>Coinkid
Sorry to hear about your tale!!!!
Go talk to Emory at Edgewood, and tell him the Ikeman sent you.
He is one of the best people in the coin business, and will give you all the time you need.
If that's not the case, I'll give you a MS63 Morgan!!!!....Then I'll get it from Emory. >>
The guys at Edgewood are nice, but that coin store is REALLY far away for me....
Edited to add: The guy at San Juan precious Metals is pretty cool, and he's closer to me.
-Paul
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(904) 733-1204
I will be calling them tomorrow
-Paul
Then, maybe they will realize the bad press they get for being jerks.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Since we're talking about age, I am 27 years old, a full time coin dealer and a full member of the PNG.
Authorized dealer for PCGS, PCGS Currency, NGC, NCS, PMG, CAC. Member of the PNG, ANA. Member dealer of CoinPlex and CCE/FACTS as "CH5"
i am happy to see so many younger collectors like myself.
<< <i>any suggestions on what to say when i call?
i am happy to see so many younger collectors like myself. >>
Something along the lines of:
Can I speak to Chip please? Ah yes, Chip. I've heard SOOOOO much about you. Why do you hate YN's?
But seriously, ask him why he would treat me the way he did and why he lied.
-Paul
No problem there...
these are the types of guys i think buy all the stolen stuff. it would be great to find that out in the local paper," coin fence brought to justice by yn..."
i giggle aliitle at the thought.
i will be calling after the holidays though, and so will evryother coin buff i know...
You can chalk this up to a life learning experience, unfortunately there are people who are narrow-minded. You sound like you are a great guy, don't let this bad experience get you down. Good luck and forget about this dealer!
Robert.
you siad your a full time coin dealer?
i am trying to go from collector to honest patient dealer?
if you have any bits of advice for a fellow youngin id really appreciate it...
feel free to pm me if you like.
thanks
adam
-Paul
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
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I also collect stamps and have the occasion to hit stamp shows and dealers, and if there's one thing both coin and stamp collecting have in common, it's the seemingly high percentage of participants that are about 3 degrees off-center (and yes I include myself in that population
Is it that the retail or show experience sours them to the world at large?
Or does collecting naturally attract the obsessive compulsive socially awkward?
Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of dealers that are great guys as well (I consider my local dealer one of them) that are very outgoing and realize that being polite and engaging is important when it comes to customer service, but I'm not always sure they're in the majority.
When I first started collecting coins in the early '90s I was pi$$ poor and could only spend a few bucks (literally) at a time with my local dealer. Nevertheless, he encouraged me. Fast forward 15 years, and while I am by no means anywhere near the top of his list of clients, I spend $5K+ a year in his shop. What started as pain-in-the-ass mickey mouse purchases has grown to something a bit more substantial (I'm still a pain in the ass though).
My local dealer has said on more than one occasion that the nickel and dime customer of today may want to spend ten grand in a few years... or have an inheritance to displose of... or may have someone ask them who to come to... you just never know.
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sorry about that its been a long day. well than could you tell me if its easy enough to sell on ebay? i have some stuff id like to upgrade and well make some money for new coins, but i have never sold anything yet. without feed back its tough, but id really like to learn. any tips are helpful.
thanks
adam
For my birthday one year, my Dad took me in to his shop, and told me to pick out a coin for my collection. The guy must not have known we were together- my Dad was looking at the guns and accessories on the other side of the shop. I asked the guy to pull a nice 1908-S IHC from behind the display that I needed for the hole in my album, and the guy says to me "Money talks, and bulls@#t walks, kid". I was 12 years old at the time. My Dad heard the guy and absolutely lit into him. I had never seen my father so angry at someone (other than me or my brother).
The funny thing is, my Dad sticking up for me to another adult was a better birthday present than the coin would have ever been, even though at the time I was scared and embarrassed.
I'm sorry that sort of attitude toward YN's is still around, Coinkid. Remember though that there are jerks in any profession- take your business elsewhere. In the long run, it will be the shop owner who loses.
-Randy Newman
-Paul
<< <i>This could be a ruse ya know. Especially after everyone hears the otherside of the story and ends up buying something from #949. Not that the kid hasn't told a great story to make me feel bad about his or-deal but it so close to SHOWTIME!
Leo >>
It certainly would be nice to hear the rest of the story!
roadrunner
Well here is my take. No business should lack plain old customer service, I don't give a rats smelly opening that if a person has $20,000 and a Y/N or anyone that has a C note to spend, that person with the C note will keep you in business way longer than the BIG SPENDER!!
Because you know damn well the profit you make off of a huge coin sale is way less than 1000 small sales over a period of a year. I'm sorry for a coin company to treat you like this. I know how you feel, I can't even get the right condenments on my freakin sandwich when I go to Wendys, so I feel ya. You just happen to get real bad customer service. DOn't give up on other coin shops or dealers there are some very nice people selling coins.
<< <i>Why is it that collectibles seem to attract some of the most twitchy, socially maladjusted people in the population? Before you get your panties in a bunch at my generalization, please hear me out:
I also collect stamps and have the occasion to hit stamp shows and dealers, and if there's one thing both coin and stamp collecting have in common, it's the seemingly high percentage of participants that are about 3 degrees off-center (and yes I include myself in that population
Is it that the retail or show experience sours them to the world at large?
Or does collecting naturally attract the obsessive compulsive socially awkward?
Don't get me wrong, I know plenty of dealers that are great guys as well (I consider my local dealer one of them) that are very outgoing and realize that being polite and engaging is important when it comes to customer service, but I'm not always sure they're in the majority.
When I first started collecting coins in the early '90s I was pi$$ poor and could only spend a few bucks (literally) at a time with my local dealer. Nevertheless, he encouraged me. Fast forward 15 years, and while I am by no means anywhere near the top of his list of clients, I spend $5K+ a year in his shop. What started as pain-in-the-ass mickey mouse purchases has grown to something a bit more substantial (I'm still a pain in the ass though).
My local dealer has said on more than one occasion that the nickel and dime customer of today may want to spend ten grand in a few years... or have an inheritance to displose of... or may have someone ask them who to come to... you just never know. >>
OK, this post may me laugh for about 5 minutes.
Too funny Dan
BTW - I'm 3 degrees off right next to you!
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
And to everyone who doubts me, give them a call. I'm sure Chip will either make up a story or hang up on you.
-Paul
<< <i>Hey everyone, I wanted to just warn everyone about the people at A-Coin in Jacksonville, Florida. I'm a YN, and they apparently do not know how to treat their customers right. A-Coin is the closest coin store to me, and today I left my volunteering job early so I could stop by and check out their Morgans (I wanted to buy a few for my set-in-progress). Anyways, I've had some previous problems with them before, such as them selling me coins that were cleaned when they didn't warn me about it (I was younger) and much of their coins are overpriced. Anyways, getting back today, I walked in and there was a group of about 3 people there. I was walking around looking at the displays until they left. Right after they left, I walked over to Chip, the assistant to the owner.
Anyways, I asked him if I could see some graded 62-63 Morgans. He gives me some crap about how they're too busy to do it at this time of the year.I look around. I'm the only one in the store. So I ask him why I can't see them, because I'm the only one in the store. He then goes on explaining that "at any moment, we could have someone walk in that's a $20,000 deal, and they will leave if they see you with the Morgans spread out on the table." Obviously then, he was discriminating against me as a YN, because I don't have enough money for him apparently (I had $1100, cash....) The whole time this is going on, the owner is watching, not saying a word. So I tell him that I won't be coming back and he just says "I don't care, I don't care! This isn't Walmart!"...So I left and I was fuming.
I got home and told my parents, and they agreed that I should call back and try to talk to the owner. So I call and Chip picks up. This is what I actually said. "Um, Hello, could I speak to the owner please?" and Chip screams "NO!' and hangs up the phone!! Can you believe that!!?? What a jerk! I was sitting there thinking about what I should do next, and the phone rings. It's A-Coin. I pick it up and it's Chip, explaining "Sorry, we had another customer." Another customer??? Are you kidding me!!?? He SLAMMED the phone down after screaming at me! What a LIAR!
I then ask him why he wouldn't let me look at Morgans while I was there, and I explained that i was ready to buy. He tells me again that he doesn't care, and he tells me that they don't have any Morgans for me to look at! What is he shovelling? It was a completely different excuse than what he gave me earlier! I point that out to him, and he tells me that I am no longer welcome in the store for one year...(haha, not as if I was going back anyways....)
So, in closing, STAY AWAY FROM A-COIN!! THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU AT ALL UNLESS YOU'RE LOADED!
Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest, because I am still MAD....
I hate it when a idiot dealer gets nasty with YN's. I had that happen to me when I started collecting (long before I became a dealer). Doesn't these schmucks know that the YN's have the potential to be their future business. Apparently, A-Coin has very low standards when it comes to customer service and respect for the individual. I wonder if they discriminate against African-Americans and Hispanics (espcially those from Cuba)? At least here at Doran Coins, YN's and everyone else are very much welcomed. And it sounds like the owner of the business is lacking a couple of things (brains is one, and you can guess the other thing.)
Coinkid855, I would do whatever it takes to make sure these schmucks lose their business big time.
-Paul
Sam Walton, founder of Walmart was a billionaire who drove around in a beatup looking pickup truck, dressed casually and often ate
at fast food places. If you didn't know who he was you never would have guessed by outward appearances.
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
<< <i>"I have learned that it is impossible to judge by looks alone how financially wealthy somebody is. Often times it's the folks you would least expect to have loads of money who are the ones who actually do."
Sam Walton, founder of Walmart was a billionaire who drove around in a beatup looking pickup truck, dressed casually and often ate
at fast food places. If you didn't know who he was you never would have guessed by outward appearances. >>
Soo true. As a matter of fact when they opened up our Walmart many years ago he was there sacking bags of all things. Was a real treat to get the meet the man. I was very young, but my mom tells me fond things about him. Needless to say I bet he would be soo displeased at what walmart has become.
TC71
Rob
"Those guys weren't Fathers they were...Mothers."
<< <i>What is the other side to this story. Did this Y/N wear soiled pants and had bad breath that day? Did this Y/N have no clue what he was doing in that store that day, just looking at every kind of coin and not focusing on a certain type of coin. Lastly did this Y/N have a drip cup and a bike helmet with a sticker on it saying I like strawberries.
Well here is my take. No business should lack plain old customer service, I don't give a rats smelly opening that if a person has $20,000 and a Y/N or anyone that has a C note to spend, that person with the C note will keep you in business way longer than the BIG SPENDER!!
Because you know damn well the profit you make off of a huge coin sale is way less than 1000 small sales over a period of a year. I'm sorry for a coin company to treat you like this. I know how you feel, I can't even get the right condenments on my freakin sandwich when I go to Wendys, so I feel ya. You just happen to get real bad customer service. DOn't give up on other coin shops or dealers there are some very nice people selling coins. >>
Some people care about what other people think
Worry about what they say
Let a little gossip coming from a loose lip ruin a perfect day
Saying, blah, blah, blah, just a jacking their jaws
Got to let it roll off-a my back
I don't give a darn what other people think
What do you think about that?
What I'm saying is that we've heard nothing but one side of a story. Why not invite the dealer here to hear his side and then make an objective decision??