<< <i>Just missed a great batch to go through at a local B&M. A guy just bought 770 raw Morgan and all their raw Peace dollars before I got there. From the remnant crumbs, here's what I took.
The 1882-O ended up not being a new discovery. It is a greeat coin still....a VAM-37A. The stars are all quadrupled, the date doubled and a strong clash runs through all of trust. I sent images to Leroy and he figured it right out. I totally missed the crack through the N of ONE (same one that breaks for VAM-38A). Here are the pics I sent to Leroy. Of there are also parallel diagonal gouges through the earlobe.
This one is prooflike but was, unfortunately cleaned. I'd be interested in knowing if others have this VAM and if theirs also are prooflike. Might be a pretty rare animal. In any event, it is really neat. The quadrupling on the stars is striking.
1878 7TF R78 NGC 64 -- New discovery? Ialways doubt it for 1878 but send pics to Leroy in case. (Might be a late state VAM-132.) 1882 PCGS 64 -- VAM-1D3 1883-O PCGS 65 -- VAM-21A 1883-O PCGS 65 -- VAM-23 1884-O PCGS 65 -- VAM-35 (forgot to list this one originally) 1887 PCGS 64 -- VAM-12A, interesting as it doesn't have that long obverse crack like I have seen on all the other VAM-12A examples I've had.
Forgot to list my 1884-O VAM-35. Finally was able to cherry one of those suckers. Got it in a PCGS MS65 OGH. I know I have had a few mistakes on that one from online images in the past.
1878-CC VAM-6 NGC MS63 -- finally cherried one of these 1882-O VAM-15 NGC MS63PL -- common but a variety I didn't have prooflike 1884-O VAM-21A PCGS MS62 -- got higher graded ANACS but don't need to cross a PCGS 1890-O VAM-10 PCGS MS64 -- pairs well with my VAM-10A in the same grade 1892 VAM-3A NGC AU53 -- an overlooked tough variety
On the way still:
1880 VAM-43 ICG MS64 -- R7 and possibly a good crossover candidate 1880-S VAM-11 PCGS MS66 -- finally broke down and bought one, though I think they are overpriced 1902-O VAM-26A PCGS MS65 -- extremely important coin, doubtless the finest known
Got a few probable new discoveries coming too but need to check them out when they arrive.
1880 VAM-43 ICG MS64 -- R7 and possibly a good crossover candidate 1880-S VAM-11 PCGS MS66 -- finally broke down and bought one, though I think they are overpriced 1902-O VAM-26A PCGS MS65 -- extremely important coin, doubtless the finest known
Got a few probable new discoveries coming too but need to check them out when they arrive. >>
Now that they are here....
1880 VAM-32A ICG MS64 -- couldn't see the obv clashing online (already have a PCGS MS64 one) (probably woudl cross to PCGS MS63) 1880-S VAM-11 PCGS MS66 -- passed on so many of these int he past because of the price 1886 VAM-1E ANACS MS63 (would cross to PCGS MS63) 1888-O VAM-23 LDS NGC MS64 -- I think my highest was an NGC MS62 (Leroy revision coin) before this pick 1902-O VAM-31A PCGS MS60 -- I am getting lousy with these (MS62 upgrade candidate) 1902-O VAM-26A PCGS MS65 -- likely my acquisition of the year; how to even value this one?? 1921-D VAM-1F LDS PCGS MS64 -- perfect mate for my VAM-1F EDS PCGS MS64
The only one identified by the VAM was the VAM-1E. That isn't a tough one, but it looked nice in online photos and better in hand too.
thanks. If i ever find out how to post pictures i will. I'll also show you guys my best pick ever... a 1923 Tail on O LDS. I picked it raw at a local cleveland show in October for $20. Sent it to NGC, came back a 63! One of the highlights of my top 50 set.
<< <i>thanks. If i ever find out how to post pictures i will. I'll also show you guys my best pick ever... a 1923 Tail on O LDS. I picked it raw at a local cleveland show in October for $20. Sent it to NGC, came back a 63! One of the highlights of my top 50 set. >>
Do show that one! (There are threads that you can search for that tell how to post pics easily enough.) Have you tried to cross that baby to PCGS? Definitely worth trying.....a few times.
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Yesterday: Hot lips in VF unattributed 78 S Long Nock (havent attributed yet) Fine unattributed 1921 S VAM 6A in PCGS 63 unattributed 1880 VAM 10 AU PL unattributed
1921-D Capped "R" SGS MS-66, which would be great if it were really a PCGS/NGC MS66. I am really happy about this one, as I was able to attribute it from only an obverse picture.
Also, a raw BU 1878-S Cap Band Gouge that I am waiting for to arrive. These are pretty cool gouges. I actually saw a really nice DMPL one this week, however it had a nasty scratch on it, so i passed.
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<< <i>1921-D Capped "R" SGS MS-66, which would be great if it were really a PCGS/NGC MS66. I am really happy about this one, as I was able to attribute it from only an obverse picture. >>
Great that it worked out for you. Based on an obverse pic, you could have gotten the much less desirable EDS, sans the cap on the R (just a weak crack there).
What would you grade it and does it look problem-free? SGS MS66 is highly unlikely to be any better than MS64 and that would be on a very good day, unfortunately.
Great that it worked out for you. Based on an obverse pic, you could have gotten the much less desirable EDS, sans the cap on the R (just a weak crack there).
Thank you, Coxe....Agreed, but at $40 bucks, it was definitely worth the shot
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Two 1880 VAM-43 NGC MS63 (R7). Got 4 others in a group that arrived of the same date and grade to sort out. I cherried these two and was right this time. It was from a Heritage sale. A couple other lots in the sale were single 1880 VAM-32A that got some pretty decent bids. I have mine already and let them go. These went unnoticed however, even though they are assessed as much rarer than the 32A.
Got another 1880 at TT tonight. Figured someone would think it was a VAM-1A Top-100 from the detailed look at the obverse. The reverse obviously shows it is not. Still lokked interesting; so I went for the coin. (PCGS MS64) If it was a VAM-1A, it would be a HUGE coin.
An 1880-S VAM-10 in PCGS MS64 also and an 1894-O VAM-6A in PCGS AU55 (upgrades my NGC XF45).
edited to add>> Attributed those other four 1880 NGC NS63 Morgans: two VAM-5, a VAM-28 and a VAM-47A. The VAM-43 ones are spectacular. The strength of the clash is truly amazing.
<< <i>What is your VAM-10 graded about? There was a spectacular one in the last VAMQuest sale I underbid. >>
Pics just put up earlier. as I mentioned in my post I've done a lot better pictures in the past but its too late to drag all the camera gear back out for better photos.
Found a very nice MS-63ish 1884-O VAM5C the other night in a group a coins that I purchased about a year ago. It pays to re-look over your coins once in a while
Awesome cracks on this specimen.
Any historical pricing on these?
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Good luck on pricing.....haven't seen any sell recently. Here's one I made not too long ago. Looks like I am going to have to make a grading set of them
This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM
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<< <i>Hey Earl -- how EDS is a 5C EDS? I only have one and it's what you'd expect from a 5C. Is there a noted progression? Something tells me that one roll of 5Cs had such, but I forget. (Funny forgetting entire things like that but remembering stupid details like what page in the VAM book something is on.) >>
Finally re-shot it. I need to have it conserved, nice cheek and awesome reverse.
This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM
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Had to go to my b&m for lunch today these are a few of the ones I got...
1921 P VAM 3 Raw MS63 1921 D VAM 1N raw au-ish 1921 D Looks like VAM 11 ....will check under micro tonight....about MS64/5....has some mirrors 1887 P VAM10 raw MS63
This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM
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1921-S VAM-11A (MS-62-ish) 1880-S VAM-11 (NGC MS-64) - I cherried this one- it's not noted on the holder!
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1880-S VAM-9 NGC MS-63PL (old fattie NGC holder, unattributed) 1921-D VAM-1AE AU-50
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<< <i>Just missed a great batch to go through at a local B&M. A guy just bought 770 raw Morgan and all their raw Peace dollars before I got there. From the remnant crumbs, here's what I took.
1879 NEW FIND MS61
1880 NEW FIND AU58
1882-O NEW FIND AU58 (lightly cleaned)
1882-O NEW FIND AU53
1883-O VAM-1A MS64
1883-O VAM-1A MS62
1883-O VAM-3 MS61
1883-O VAM-21A MS62
1883-O VAM-21A MS63
1883-O VAM-21A MS63
1883-O VAM-36A MS63
1883-O VAM-56 AU55
1885 VAM-4A XF45
1885 (don't know yet; probably nothing listable) VF25
1886 VAM-23 AU53
1888 VAM-33A AU50
1889 VAM-1B AU53
1891 VAM-2 VF30
1891-O NEW FIND AU50
1891-S NEW FIND AU55
1900 VAM-11 AU50
1900 VAM-11 AU53
1900 VAM-30A MS62
1902 VAM-19 AU53
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The 1882-O ended up not being a new discovery. It is a greeat coin still....a VAM-37A. The stars are all quadrupled, the date doubled and a strong clash runs through all of trust. I sent images to Leroy and he figured it right out. I totally missed the crack through the N of ONE (same one that breaks for VAM-38A). Here are the pics I sent to Leroy. Of there are also parallel diagonal gouges through the earlobe.
This one is prooflike but was, unfortunately cleaned. I'd be interested in knowing if others have this VAM and if theirs also are prooflike. Might be a pretty rare animal. In any event, it is really neat. The quadrupling on the stars is striking.
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1878 7TF R78 NGC 64 -- New discovery? Ialways doubt it for 1878 but send pics to Leroy in case. (Might be a late state VAM-132.)
1882 PCGS 64 -- VAM-1D3
1883-O PCGS 65 -- VAM-21A
1883-O PCGS 65 -- VAM-23
1884-O PCGS 65 -- VAM-35 (forgot to list this one originally)
1887 PCGS 64 -- VAM-12A, interesting as it doesn't have that long obverse crack like I have seen on all the other VAM-12A examples I've had.
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picked up 2 82 cc vam 2's 64 and 64 pl still in gsa holders
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1878 VAM 79 PCGS-64
1880 VAM 9 PCGS-64
1882-O VAM 7 PCGS-64
Coins #1 and #3 were outright cherrypicks. Coin #2 was sold as a VAM 9, but the seller seriously underpriced it.
<< <i>At the ANA show in Phoenix two weeks ago (already?) I found three coins:
1878 VAM 79 PCGS-64
1880 VAM 9 PCGS-64
1882-O VAM 7 PCGS-64
Coins #1 and #3 were outright cherrypicks. Coin #2 was sold as a VAM 9, but the seller seriously underpriced it. >>
That VAM-9 is a great coin in PCGS 64. I managed to get a couple PCGS 63 but any higher has eluded me. The VAM-79 is also tough above MS62!
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Thanks! The under-7 remnants are very strong on the 1880, too.
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1878-CC VAM-6 NGC MS63 -- finally cherried one of these
1882-O VAM-15 NGC MS63PL -- common but a variety I didn't have prooflike
1884-O VAM-21A PCGS MS62 -- got higher graded ANACS but don't need to cross a PCGS
1890-O VAM-10 PCGS MS64 -- pairs well with my VAM-10A in the same grade
1892 VAM-3A NGC AU53 -- an overlooked tough variety
On the way still:
1880 VAM-43 ICG MS64 -- R7 and possibly a good crossover candidate
1880-S VAM-11 PCGS MS66 -- finally broke down and bought one, though I think they are overpriced
1902-O VAM-26A PCGS MS65 -- extremely important coin, doubtless the finest known
Got a few probable new discoveries coming too but need to check them out when they arrive.
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<< <i>On the way still:
1880 VAM-43 ICG MS64 -- R7 and possibly a good crossover candidate
1880-S VAM-11 PCGS MS66 -- finally broke down and bought one, though I think they are overpriced
1902-O VAM-26A PCGS MS65 -- extremely important coin, doubtless the finest known
Got a few probable new discoveries coming too but need to check them out when they arrive. >>
Now that they are here....
1880 VAM-32A ICG MS64 -- couldn't see the obv clashing online (already have a PCGS MS64 one) (probably woudl cross to PCGS MS63)
1880-S VAM-11 PCGS MS66 -- passed on so many of these int he past because of the price
1886 VAM-1E ANACS MS63 (would cross to PCGS MS63)
1888-O VAM-23 LDS NGC MS64 -- I think my highest was an NGC MS62 (Leroy revision coin) before this pick
1902-O VAM-31A PCGS MS60 -- I am getting lousy with these (MS62 upgrade candidate)
1902-O VAM-26A PCGS MS65 -- likely my acquisition of the year; how to even value this one??
1921-D VAM-1F LDS PCGS MS64 -- perfect mate for my VAM-1F EDS PCGS MS64
The only one identified by the VAM was the VAM-1E. That isn't a tough one, but it looked nice in online photos and better in hand too.
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Welcome aboard to the VAM madness here!!
<< <i>@ Local show in Pittsburgh i cherried an 1878 VAM 9A in AU Cleaned for $55. I've been looking for one for a VERY long time. >>
Nice find. I don't know of any UNC for that clashed subvariety and, cleaned or not, AU55 has to one of the better ones out there.
And...............................WELCOME!
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<< <i>thanks. If i ever find out how to post pictures i will. I'll also show you guys my best pick ever... a 1923 Tail on O LDS. I picked it raw at a local cleveland show in October for $20. Sent it to NGC, came back a 63! One of the highlights of my top 50 set. >>
Do show that one! (There are threads that you can search for that tell how to post pics easily enough.) Have you tried to cross that baby to PCGS? Definitely worth trying.....a few times.
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I was physically shaking when i pulled out the $20 to pay for it.
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1889-O VAM-2A F-12
1878-S VAM-26 AU53 -- Long Nock Top-100
1880-O VAM-11A MS64 -- Excellent clashed doe with ovaloids
1884-O VAM-4B AU58 -- R7 overllapped reeding
1887 NEW FIND VF35 -- die break
1888-S VAM-13 NGC MS65 -- monster gouges, Hit List-40, betters my PCGS MS64
1890-CC VAM-9A PCGS MS62 -- R6, but R8 in Mint State
1901 VAM-5 AU55 -- Hot-50
1921-D VAM-3A LDS XF45
1921-D VAM-1AH ULDS MS64 (light cleaning) -- reverse cud
1921-D NEW FIND MS64 -- new gouge(s)
1921-D VAM-?? XF40 -- might be known, have to check; listable die offense nonetheless
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Hot lips in VF unattributed
78 S Long Nock (havent attributed yet) Fine unattributed
1921 S VAM 6A in PCGS 63 unattributed
1880 VAM 10 AU PL unattributed
1921-D Capped "R" SGS MS-66, which would be great if it were really a PCGS/NGC MS66.
I am really happy about this one, as I was able to attribute it from only an obverse picture.
Also, a raw BU 1878-S Cap Band Gouge that I am waiting for to arrive. These are pretty cool gouges. I actually saw a really nice DMPL one this week, however it had a nasty scratch on it, so i passed.
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<< <i>1921-D Capped "R" SGS MS-66, which would be great if it were really a PCGS/NGC MS66.
I am really happy about this one, as I was able to attribute it from only an obverse picture. >>
Great that it worked out for you. Based on an obverse pic, you could have gotten the much less desirable EDS, sans the cap on the R (just a weak crack there).
What would you grade it and does it look problem-free? SGS MS66 is highly unlikely to be any better than MS64 and that would be on a very good day, unfortunately.
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1878 8TF TOP 100 VAM 15 raw AU-55
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Thank you, Coxe....Agreed, but at $40 bucks, it was definitely worth the shot
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1922 D VAM 4 AU!! A VERY tough one.
1888 O VAM 6 XF
<< <i>1889-P,Vam 28A,PCGS MS62.Like Coxe said,very tough Vam in MS
I think that is the highest I have heard about, though I have not checked the ANACS pops. Sure is better than my MS60. Great pick!
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I grade it an AU-58 PL. Lots of interesting features on this Cap Band Gouge.
Len
Edited to mention that its Prooflike.
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<< <i>Received my first cherrypicked 1878-S Vam 19A today!!!
I grade it an AU-58 PL. Lots of interesting features on this Cap Band Gouge.
Len
Edited to mention that its Prooflike. >>
I have a few of that variety in high grades. But none at all with PL surfaces. Excellent cherrypick.
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1878 VAM 9 EF
1885-S VAM 6 AU
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Got another 1880 at TT tonight. Figured someone would think it was a VAM-1A Top-100 from the detailed look at the obverse. The reverse obviously shows it is not. Still lokked interesting; so I went for the coin. (PCGS MS64) If it was a VAM-1A, it would be a HUGE coin.
An 1880-S VAM-10 in PCGS MS64 also and an 1894-O VAM-6A in PCGS AU55 (upgrades my NGC XF45).
edited to add>> Attributed those other four 1880 NGC NS63 Morgans: two VAM-5, a VAM-28 and a VAM-47A. The VAM-43 ones are spectacular. The strength of the clash is truly amazing.
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1883 P VAM 10 Sextupled Stars
1887 P Donkey tail ANACS MS61 (its on its way at any rate but not to door yet)
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
<< <i>This weeks coins that have arrived/arriving but not been to PCGS yet.
1883 P VAM 10 Sextupled Stars
1887 P Donkey tail ANACS MS61 (its on its way at any rate but not to door yet) >>
What is your VAM-10 graded about? There was a spectacular one in the last VAMQuest sale I underbid.
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<< <i>What is your VAM-10 graded about? There was a spectacular one in the last VAMQuest sale I underbid. >>
Pics just put up earlier. as I mentioned in my post I've done a lot better pictures in the past but its too late to drag all the camera gear back out for better photos.
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You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
Awesome cracks on this specimen.
Any historical pricing on these?
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<< <i>Hey Earl -- how EDS is a 5C EDS? I only have one and it's what you'd expect from a 5C. Is there a noted progression? Something tells me that one roll of 5Cs had such, but I forget. (Funny forgetting entire things like that but remembering stupid details like what page in the VAM book something is on.) >>
Finally re-shot it. I need to have it conserved, nice cheek and awesome reverse.
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
1921 P VAM 3 Raw MS63
1921 D VAM 1N raw au-ish
1921 D Looks like VAM 11 ....will check under micro tonight....about MS64/5....has some mirrors
1887 P VAM10 raw MS63
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
1880-S VAM-11 (NGC MS-64) - I cherried this one- it's not noted on the holder!
1890 S VAM 26A in approx MS63
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
1904 O VAM-4B "Rusty Fish Hook" NGC MS63
I'm not sure I agree with NGC's assessment of MS63 but I've wanted one for a while.
You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.
1921-D 3a in 63ish WhooHoo another R7
1922 2C in 64 or 58, I have a had time with Peace Dollars
1923 1B in 63ish or 58ish, same as above.
I also have a couple top secret ones I have found lately, will reveal shortly in another post. Gotta confirm VAMs first.
1921-D VAM-1AE AU-50