2007 Allen and Ginter

ArchStanton

Groundhog Day? There's a card for Groundhog Day? I love it!

Is a complete checklist available yet?

TNP777

Munson15

Boo to the checklist, I like last year where there was much more seperation in the cards. Active players, then retired, then great, then other sports and finally historical figures. Makes for a much nice presentation in the binder.

Just my 2 cents. Won't stop me from breaking a few boxes!!!!!!!

Goot

That cut auto list is just awesome!

kmnorton

no kidding about the cuts! Imaging pulling a Fidel Castro or Mother Teresa. I love it. Very clever.

Bigslick

My Hobby product has been dlvd. It's being broken now, and apparently the autos are a more difficult pull than last year. Topps must have let the presses run. They have gotten a RIP Card per case, and 1 with 2. 3 or 4 autos per case. I'll have them make a Photobucket this weekend, and provide a link.

I'm in the investment business, and the markets being what they are, I might have to do some "hand holding" this afternoon. I will try to get a list of some of the pulls, and answer any of your questions.

parkerj

So Slick, I'm anxious to hear if you think hobby was worth the premium over retail.

goose3

are any of you on here going to be selling boxes of these?

Bigslick

OK, just heard from the guys busting the A&G. They have been only getting 3 or 4 autos per case. The SPs seem to be a little tougher than last year. They seem to think they have figured out the SPs. I'll try to get that list up in a Photobucket this weekend. They like the product even if it's just like last years release.

Off the top of my head here are some of the more notable pulls. Nothing big yet.
Rip Cards
Fielder
Maddux
A Jones
Thomas
Bonds
Ortiz
1 of 1
Ortiz
Bazooka Back
Matsuzaka
Autos
Tommy Smith
Wang
Wright
Adu

Someone asked about the Retail. I think it will be live in about a week to 10 days. It's not going to be nearly as good as the Hobby. Only 1 hit per box. I doubt if we'll break what I've got coming.
I should have plenty of Singles and SPs, and will be glad to swap some for sets we'll be working on. Good luck.

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

Not mine. From BMB busted in Taiwan.

Goot

That Santana is just SICK!

1989FleerBillRipkencollector

<< <i>That Santana is just SICK! >>




Agreed. I like the red ink.

HeritageAddict

The hits seem to be kind of sparse in the hobby, I ordered two retail cases kind of has me worried about the lack of pulls in them as well.

nam812

I have a case of each coming, so I should be able to give you all a good idea as to the comparisons/differences of hobby vs. retail. Now they just have to show up.

joestalin

Man Slick, you are killing it! Dice K bazooka and a Wang auto already!!! Are there auto odds on the boxes? Group A..B..C??

We really need scans man!

LOL
Kevin

Knopfler

So I'm confused. Is Blowout's release date of August 8th incorrect?

nam812

Blowout updated to August 1st.

joestalin

YOU ALL ARE KILLING ME WITH THE PRE-RIPS. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Anyone know some good shops in Atlanta?

Kevin

Bigslick

Good afternoon. I've been tied up at my office all day, and haven't been able to get to where the cases are being broken. I think this downturn in the market is more serious than I first thought.
I'll try to get over there tonight and do some scanning. Will link to a Photobucket so you can get a look. I will include the box, so you can get a list of the auto odds (A,B,C).
From what I understand the sets seem to be fitting together in the case lot, so maybe it won't be too difficult to make sets. I'll be at this computer for the next hr. so I'll try to answer any questions you might have. All my information is via the phone, so I might not be able to help.

ArchStanton

Any word on the SP list yet?

joestalin

Slick

From the few breaks I have seen over on beckett, you did VERY well. It looks like cases yield 3-4 autos per, so you did well with 4 and you hit two
group C autos....CONGRATS. We would love to see scans when you can. I hope to have some of this broken today.

Kevin

kmnorton

In case anybody is wondering where all the autos are, look at this case break from Beckett's board. Pretty unreal.

Wow

HeritageAddict

This is killing me, from what I've been told I'm still a week and a half away from seeing my retail cases.

kmnorton

I hear you, Doran. I'm also getting 2 retail cases and I'm going out on business when they should be delivered. Add another week for me. Ahhhhhhh.

prscott933

i think my case is shipping tomorrow. i hope it gets here by the weekend. crossing my fingers for a "hot" case

HeritageAddict

Kurt that stinks, I'm stuck on the couch for a couple of months, can't drive to pick up any blasters or anything, only been down since Thursday, but it's already driving me up the wall....I NEED TO RIP!

joestalin

I just opened 8 boxes and pulled only 1 auto...can you freaking believe that?? Disappointing.

Details to follow

Kevin

HeritageAddict

Kevin was that Hobby?

joestalin

Yes that was hobby. From a fresh case..actually 6 were from one case, no autos, then 2 from another case got me a Mario Andretti SP Auto and a Tommy Smith
SP Jersey. One bazooka unless I missed one

Kevin

kmnorton

All right, I'm on board. My local got some in and I just can't wait for my Retail. 1 box. Bruce Lee toploader and a Brian Bannister auto and Chad Tracy GU. Man, this stuff is good. Must wait for shipment, must wait for shipment.

LWMM

Short print autos/"relics" from Beckett

Albert Pujols/25
Johan Santana/100
Jim Thome/100
Brian Cashman/100
Miguel Cabrera/100
Ryan Howard/100
Joe Frazier/120
Augie Garrido/200
Cael Sanderson/200
Bob Baffert/200
Chien-Ming Wang/200
Dan O'Brien/200
Dennis Rodman/200
Freddy Adu/200
Gary Hall Jr./200
Greg Louganis/200
Jamie Fischer/200
Jason McElwain/200
Joe B. Scott/200
John "Mule" Miles/200
Julio Juarez/200
Ken Jennings/200
Kerri Walsh/200
Laila Ali/200
Mario Andretti/200
Mark Selby/200
Mark Zupan/200
Mia Hamm/200
Mike Aponte/200
Misty May-Treanor/200
Stanley "Doc" Glenn/200
Ted Toles/200
Tommie Smith/200
David Wright/200
Alex Rodriguez/225

In addition, every autograph subject signed 10 copies of their total run in Red Ink.

Red Ink autographed parallels of Thome, Cashman, Howard, Frazier, O'Brien, Adu, McElwain, Scott, Jennings, Walsh, Aponte, Glenn, Smith, Hamels, Kendrick, Ervin Santana, Izturis and Napoli can be found exclusively in Rip cards.

Short Print Relics:
Arthur Shorin/50
Keith Olbermann/100
Alex Rodriguez/250
Barry Bonds/250
Brian Cashman/250
Bruce Lee/250
Dan O'Brien/250
David Ortiz/250
Gary Hall Jr./250
Jamie Fischer/250
Joe Frazier/250
Julio Juarez/250
Ken Jennings/250
Kerri Walsh/250
Laila Ali/250
Mia Hamm/250
Mickey Mantle/250
Tommie Smith/250

joestalin

<< <i>All right, I'm on board. My local got some in and I just can't wait for my Retail. 1 box. Bruce Lee toploader and a Brian Bannister auto and Chad Tracy GU. Man, this stuff is good. Must wait for shipment, must wait for shipment. >>



Do your black minis have numbers on the back?

Kevin

ArchStanton

I got three boxes. The first box was the best. I got a Juarez auto, but it is a redemption. I am not sure what group he is in. The last box had a Zimmerman auto. It seems like a lot of the player photos are recycled from other sets - even last years A&G.

My black borders all have numbers.

p.s. If I pulled an Olberman auto, I might have to urinate on it.

joestalin

2 autos in 3 boxes is a great day! I beleive that Olbermann is in the GU set not the autos set. Thanks for the scans!

Kevin

ArchStanton

It looks like I got zero cards numbered higher than 350.

joestalin

Did you pull an snakes or emperors?

Kevin

PS 350 and higher can only be pulled from the rip cards

Knopfler

OK, I'm officially in. Split a case with another board member. This will be the first non-Heritage unopened material I have purchases in 15 years! Seems a bit more confusing that Heritage though with all the different inserts, rip cards, etc.

TNP777

<< <i>It looks like I got zero cards numbered higher than 350. >>

Jim - those cards are only available inside the rip cards. On a side note, while you guys are ripping boxes, keep me in mind for Dodger mini parallels. I'll be putting together all versions, with the exceptions of the 1/1s.

Geordie

edit: bah - didn't see that Kevin had beat me to the punch on the rip cards.

parkerj

How can olberman be a game-used? did they cut up one of his ties? or maybe a piece of his glasses? or better yet maybe a hair from his eyebrow?

joestalin

Geordie...you might need to add the black mini no number to you list, I pulled some of them. It will be inerested to see how rare they are.

Knopf....I bet you will pull the Pujols, you killed it on the heritage! If you pull any autos think of me if you want to move them.

parker...yeah probably a shirt, pretty laim, but he will probably pay big time for it!

Kevin

Knopfler

Thanks Kevin, I did well on Heritage but I did buy 8 hobby cases!

TNP777

<< <i>Geordie...you might need to add the black mini no number to you list, I pulled some of them. It will be inerested to see how rare they are.

Knopf....I bet you will pull the Pujols, you killed it on the heritage! If you pull any autos think of me if you want to move them.

parker...yeah probably a shirt, pretty laim, but he will probably pay big time for it!

Kevin >>

Kevin - looks like the no number mini from last year is going to be black mini variation then? Wonder why on just that one parallel Topps decided to deviate?

I'm gonna start trolling for blasters in a couple days, I think.

Geordie

joestalin

That's what people have been trying to tell me, but look what I pulled:


5 or so black mini's with numbers on the back
maybe 20 black mini's with no number on the back
2 non-black mini's with no number!

It clearly looks like the no# black mini's are errors. I wonder how rare they are.

Kevin

kmnorton

Yup, Kevin/Geordie, I was thinking the same thing. Is the numbered or no number blacks this year's no number from last year (unannounced)? Hadn't heard about the emperors and the snakes. Those are the super short prints? Anybody know when the regular short print list will come out?

Kurt

ArchStanton

Thanks for the info on the #350+ cards.

I did pull 2 emperors, Caesar Augustus and Claudius, No snakes, Six flags including two Dominican Republics, Seven black borders, 17 A&G backs and one no number.

LWMM

Does anyone know what the deal with the emperors is? On eBay I can find 10 of them, all in mimi version, but I see no parallels; do any exist?

Munson15

Why wont my shop open!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

See you back here soon with a break report (i hope)

joestalin

I think I pulled maybe an emperor per 2 or 3 boxes. All mini, they are no included in the base set just the mini set and I pulled no parallels. The Emperor cards
have numbering E1, E2...its funny cause Ceasar is E2....e tu Brute?

Certainly topps can't be that smart.

I also pulled one snake card mini. There are 5 and they are the worlds deadliest snakes. S1-S5

There is a unconfirmed SP list on beckett. This guy claimed to have 13 of all the cards, but only a 4 of some carrds. The list has no rhyme or reason to it.

Kevin

mudflap02

SNAKES FALLING ONE PER CASE

REPEAT

SNAKES ONE PER CASE

stormsurge

"The Emperor cards have numbering E1, E2...its funny cause Ceasar is E2....e tu Brute?"

Hmm my Julius Caesar is numbered E1.