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  • drewsefdrewsef Posts: 1,894 ✭✭
    there's also a 2002 Fleer Platinum Olin Kreutz
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    I've been waiting for this one for a long time. A nicely centered PSA 7 Dawson. One of the nicest 7's I own..

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  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭


    << <i>I've been waiting for this one for a long time. A nicely centered PSA 7 Dawson. One of the nicest 7's I own..

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    Grumble...grmphmhpgrmnphs...

    I was the underbidder...worst part, I asked if he had a BIN on it at the start of the auction and he said $200. I agreed to the price and asked where to send payment. Then he never replied to me. That is one stellar looking 7 Dave. I'm just bitter I didn't win it. image
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks like an 8 to me. Is it worth re-submitting?
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • That's one sweet 7! And a very nice looking 8 image
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like an 8 to me. Is it worth re-submitting? >>



    Possibly, but not anytime soon. I will have to wait til we get a football special. I have alot of cards waiting to be submitted..


    Dave

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  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Looks like an 8 to me. Is it worth re-submitting? >>



    Possibly, but not anytime soon. I will have to wait til we get a football special. I have alot of cards waiting to be submitted..


    Dave >>



    Me, too. I haven't seen a Football special in a LONG time...
  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Maybe in July we'll get a Training Camp special like the baseball guys did. They should be finished up with my 200 card sub by then.
  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Looks like an 8 to me. >>

    I was just thinking the same thing.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Great pick up on that Dawson Dave!
    Such a nice card that I had to check myself to keep from bidding on it. image

    Thought I had the best centered one in a 7, but yours beats it. Mine's on the right below :

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    Pix of 'My Kids'

    "How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    This thread just doesn't belong on page 2....
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    I agree. Does anyone else check this thread 5+ times a day for new posts? I must be sick..

    Anyway here are a few new pickups.

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    Dave

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  • I would say I check at least 3 times a day ...

    Nice cards. I just picked up a Motley in PSA 6 as well.
  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭


    << <i>I would say I check at least 3 times a day ...

    Nice cards. I just picked up a Motley in PSA 6 as well. >>



    Twice a day, time permitting. Usually at night after dinner while winding down. Love this thread is the bottom line.

    Who did you get the Motley from, was that Rose City Sports, Will J?

    joe
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭

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  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    Dave
    Thats funny, Will sold those cards for me on consignment. You got a great deal on it.

    Funny, I bought a Hickerson card from you, you spent the money on a card from me. Great symbiotic relationship here

    joe
  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Nice pickups Dave! I'm still trying to find a Groza in a 6 and a Fears in a 7, now that the 8's are $275-350.

    I have a few other upgrades coming in, I'll hit you up if any of them would help you out.
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Funny, I bought a Hickerson card from you, you spent the money on a card from me. Great symbiotic relationship here >>



    Yep, It's circular.....or something like that.

    I thought it was a great deal on the Motley as well. After 20 cent listing day, I had about 1K in my paypal account. I have successfully spent half of it. I still need to find a nice PSA 8 Payton RC. I had a very nice one that I paid $180 for, turned around and sold it for $225 through a BIN, and now the prices have skyrocketed. I will be lucky to get a centered 8 for $250. Oh well..Live and Learn.

    Anyone going to the National this year? I have been to the last 4. I have a baby due in 4 weeks, but I think I have talked my wife into making the road trip with me. Cleveland is only a 4 hour drive for me. We will be bringing our 8 year old boy, and leaving the baby with the grandparents. Can't wait.

    Anyway, I would love to meet up with any of you if you are planning on attending.

    Dave

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  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Dave you copycat! I have a baby due on 6/6. I don't think I'll be making the trip to Cleveland though...
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    Nice cards Dave.

    Do you have those cards in hand yet? From the scans, your Groza looks sharper than your Motley. Is that just the scans playing tricks on me?

    Regards,
    Rich
  • AlanAllenAlanAllen Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭
    My boy is due in August image. Seems like a lot of football fans have babies conceived during football season image

    Joe
    No such details will spoil my plans...
  • Seems like a lot of football fans have babies conceived during football season

    Obviuosly during half-timeimage
    Baseball is my Pastime, Football is my Passion
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Obviuosly during half-time image >>



    That'd be full-time for me, Frank image
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • Andy- You must either be single or a newlywed
    Baseball is my Pastime, Football is my Passion
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My boy is due in August image. Seems like a lot of football fans have babies conceived during football season image

    Joe >>



    Another reason why TIVO is one of the greatest inventions of all-time...image

    PAUSE live TV! and the best part is, when you come back you can fast forward through commercials...

    Boy has this thread morphed! lol

    Jason
    I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit,
    according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Halftime? I don't need the whole stinkin' half time, I have to take a leak and make a sandwich in that fifteen minutes too! If you've ever seen Bernie Mac doing "The original kings of comedy"... "3 minutes, that's all I'm givin' ya... that's all the **** I got!" I love that line. image

    Yes, this thread did just morph... So I'll digress.

    Congrats to all that are expecting. I'm expecting a little girl within the next couple of weeks. Wife had some pains last night and was up for 3 hours, thought I was making the trip to the hospital not but a few hours after I made my post. Did everyone elses wives get a little "weird" during the last trimester? Mine is kinda forgetful and even gets a little....um....confused sometimes. lol Must be all the brain cells traveling to the baby. image


    Dave-looks like there is a couple of Payton 8's on the bay right now. Including a BGS/BVG 8 which might be worth the gamble if the price stays down.
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    Did everyone elses wives get a little "weird" during the last trimester?
    >>



    Can't remember, my youngest just celebrated her 13th B-day..lol..Son graduates from high school next week..Time flies, that's for sure...

    Back to cards, Anyone had any football subs pop recently? I'm still waiting on my modern bulk sub, only logged on 5/2 so it's probably going to be awhile...I will have some extras that those of you reading this thread will be interested in...

    Congrats to Marc (MAD) on the recent adds to the 1990s Team of the Decade set..PSA 10 Shannon Sharpe and PSA 10 Leroy Butler RCs..Those are super tough to get PSA to buy off on as PSA 10's..It took me forever to get mine (that I no longer own)...

    Jason
    I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit,
    according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    Here's an idea..How about anyone who has extras/available football rookies that belong on the Football HOF or Key card Regsitry, post them here..Maybe we can do some trading?

    Here's what I have available right now:

    PSA 4 1948 Leaf Chuck Bednarik
    PSA 7 1951 Bowman Ernie Stautner
    PSA 10 1973 Topps Jack Ham
    PSA 9 1983 Topps Kenny Easley
    PSA 9 1984 Topps Jim Covert
    PSA 9 1986 Topps Andre Reed
    PSA 10 1989 Score Deion Sanders
    PSA 9 1989 Score Supp. Dermontti Dawson
    PSA 10 1993 Ultra Michael Strahan
    PSA 9 1995 SP Curtis Martin
    PSA 9 1999 SP Authrntic Torry Holt

    Jason
    I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit,
    according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Congrats to Marc (MAD) on the recent adds to the 1990s Team of the Decade set..PSA 10 Shannon Sharpe and PSA 10 Leroy Butler RCs..Those are super tough to get PSA to buy off on as PSA 10's..It took me forever to get mine (that I no longer own)... >>



    Speaking of the Shannon Sharpe 10, I'm in the market for one. I have a bunch to send off to PSA at some point, but it's a crapshoot whether I'll get a 10 or not (the corners are all rounded image Seriously though, what do 10's go for?
    "My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. Our childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When we were insolent we were placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds - pretty standard really."
  • Jason --

    Thanks for the congrats, I knew it was a worthwhile purchase.

    I'll be posting my updated list of hof/key cards for sale or trade.

    Thanks to everyone who has emailed and offered and purchased and traded and I still have a variety of cards available and a few deals pending.

    Which reminds me -- Wolfbear I purchased a a couple of 62 fleers from you. Nice auctions. I have two '63 topps psa 8's to upgrade 7's in your set. I'll email you the cards to see if you're interested.

    Marc.
    Have shine box will travel
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    BOBBY ORR
    THE BEST THERE WAS!
    THE BEST THERE EVER WILL BE!
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  • PubliusPublius Posts: 1,306 ✭✭
    My short list for sale or trade

    78 John Stallworth #320 RC psa 10
    77 Steve Largent #177 psa 9 , or 8, or 7, or 6....
    55 Benny Friedman #64 psa 7



    joe
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dave you copycat! I have a baby due on 6/6. I don't think I'll be making the trip to Cleveland though... >>



    Congrats to you as well!! Very exciting times for us football guys....



    << <i> Nice cards Dave.

    Do you have those cards in hand yet? From the scans, your Groza looks sharper than your Motley. Is that just the scans playing tricks on me?

    Regards,
    Rich >>



    I would definatly say that the 5's shown are better than the 6. However, I don't have all in hand yet. I paid too much for the Fears but it looks exceptional for a 5. I love the centering.



    << <i>My boy is due in August . Seems like a lot of football fans have babies conceived during football season >>



    LOL... image


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  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Jason, what's a PSA 4 Bednarik going for these days? I may be interested...depending on when the baby arrives. image

    I currently have 220+ cards at PSA. According to the CSR, I should expect my 189 card order sometime in the next week or so...which would be great!

    My 189 card order consists of the following.

    1 Topps 1974 524 Bert Jones
    1 Topps 1971 114 Willie Lanier
    2 Topps 1987 207 Gary Zimmerman
    2 Topps 1980 131 Jimmie Giles
    1 Topps 1980 423 Nolan Cromwell
    2 Topps 1982 327 Everson Walls
    2 Topps 1982 51 Anthony Munoz
    1 Topps 1982 176 Freeman McNeil
    1 Topps 1982 507 James Wilder
    1 Topps 1982 500 Hugh Green
    1 Topps 1984 280 Eric Dickerson
    1 Topps 1986 255 Boomer Esiason
    2 Topps 1988 352 Vinny Testaverde
    5 Topps 1988 157 Chris Doleman
    4 Topps 1988 363 Christian Okoye
    3 Topps 1988 349 David Fulcher
    4 Topps 1988 300 Kevin Greene
    5 Topps 1988 327 Bo Jackson
    5 Topps 1988 230 Cornelius Bennett
    2 Topps 1988 144 Brian Bosworth
    3 Topps 1988 347 Tim Krumrie
    2 Topps 1988 66 Pat Swilling
    2 Topps 1988 65 Sam Mills
    6 Topps Traded 1989 65T Steve Tasker
    4 Topps Traded 1989 115T Greg Lloyd
    4 Action Packed 1990 10 Leroy Butler
    2 Score Supplemental 1990 101T Emmitt Smith
    2 Score Supplemental 1990 108T Richmond Webb
    4 Score Supplemental 1990 71T Rodney Hampton
    3 Score Supplemental 1990 68T Cortez Kennedy
    2 Score Supplemental 1990 65T Junior Seau
    15 Pro Set Final Update 1991 835 John Randle
    1 SP All Pro 1993 AP7 Emmitt Smith
    1 SP 1993 9 Drew Bledsoe
    1 SP 1993 6 Jerome Bettis
    4 SP 1993 23 Lincoln Kennedy
    2 SP 1993 75 Jason Elam
    1 SP 1993 91 Mark Brunell
    2 SP 1993 123 Will Shields
    1 SP 1993 211 Larry Centers
    1 SP 1993 259 John Lynch
    3 Bowman 1994 138 Tom Nalen
    3 Bowman 1994 135 Kevin Mawae
    2 SP 1994 4 Willie McGinest
    1 SP 1995 12 Rashaan Salaam
    1 SP 1996 3 Simeon Rice
    1 SP 1996 1 Keyshawn Johnson
    1 SP 1996 7 Terrell Owens
    1 SP 1996 18 Marvin Harrison
    1 Leaf R&S 1998 202 Hines Ward
    1 Topps 1987 4 Jerry Rice
    2 All World Sports 1992 15 Desmond Howard
    1 Topps 1983 384 Kenny Easley
    2 Ultra Update 1991 291 Herman Moore
    1 Stadium Club 1992 612 Ty Detmer
    1 Topps 1986 101 Al Toon
    1 Topps 1985 120 Joe Morris
    2 Topps 1984 15 Chris Hinton
    3 Topps 1992 357 Tony Mayberry
    1 Finest 1996 344 Brian Dawkins
    2 Playoff 1994 300 Larry Allen
    2 Bowman 1993 421 Willie Roaf
    1 Score Supplemental 1989 408S Dermontti Dawson
    1 Topps 1975 251 Checklist
    1 Topps 1975 517 Checklist
    1 Topps 1975 522 Bill Olds
    1 Topps 1975 465 Tommy Casanova
    1 Topps 1975 404 Vern Den Herder
    1 Topps 1975 396 Ed Bradley
    1 Topps 1975 390 Charley Young
    1 Topps 1975 359 Joe DeLamielleure
    1 Topps 1975 345 Nick Buoniconti
    1 Topps 1975 318 John Hannah
    1 Topps 1975 95 Willie Brown
    1 Topps 1975 65 Drew Pearson
    1 Topps 1977 188 Leon Gray
    1 Topps 1978 141 Marvin Powell
    2 Topps 1986 154 Sean Landeta
    1 Topps 1987 125 Charles Haley
    2 Score Supplemental 1991 94T Aeneas Williams
    2 Pacific 1992 196 Ben Coates
    3 UD Collectors Choice Update 1995 U210 Darren Bennett
    2 Playoff Prestige 2003 139 Dexter Jackson
    1 SPx 2006 159 Jay Cutler
    1 SPx 2006 162 Joseph Addai
    1 Topps 1981 310 Art Still
    2 Topps 1982 302 Walter Payton
    1 Ultra 1995 369 Rod Smith
    1 Topps 1980 195 Lester Hayes
    2 Topps 1985 346 Ken Obrien
    2 Ultra Update 1991 U67 Mo Lewis
    1 SP 1996 162 Lawyer Milloy
    2 Score 1989 105 Mark Rypien
    3 Pacific 1991 575 Larry Brown
    1 Topps 1984 143 Andre Tippett
    1 Topps 1984 120 Mark Duper
    1 Finest 1997 46 Rodney Harrison

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    Here is what I have for sale. Envoy98 Collector Showcase
    1975 TOPPS ROCKY BLEIER 8
    177 1977 TOPPS STEVE LARGENT 7 HOF TRADED
    253 1985 TOPPS MIKE MUNCHAK 8 HOF
    316 1981 TOPPS DAN HAMPTON 4 HOF (Small surface wrinkle kept ...more
    14 1955 BOWMAN LEN FORD 6 HOF
    96 1963 TOPPS RAY NITSCHKE 3 HOF (It ain''t sexy, but it''s ...more
    167 1989 SCORE CHRIS SPIELMAN 9 Lions
    222 1984 TOPPS JIM COVERT 8 1980 TOD
    80 1957 TOPPS HOWARD CASSADY 5 Heisman
    81 1970 TOPPS GENE WASHINGTON 8 49ers
    112 1972 TOPPS MEL GRAY 7 Cardinals
    26 1972 TOPPS KEN BURROUGH 7 Oilers
    56 1973 TOPPS LYDELL MITCHELL 7 Colts
    119 1986 TOPPS KARL MECKLENBURG 6 Broncos (a small corner ding, ...more
    389 1986 TOPPS BRUCE SMITH 8 Bills
    357 1986 TOPPS RAY CHILDRESS 8 Oilers
    207 1987 TOPPS GARY ZIMMERMAN 7 Broncos (soon to be Vikings set)
    347 1987 TOPPS LESLIE O'NEAL 8 Chargers
    291 1991 ULTRA HERMAN MOORE 9
    9 1993 SP DREW BLEDSOE FOIL 8 Patriots
    174 1995 SP TY LAW 7 Patriots
    126 1995 SELECT CERTIFIED TERRELL DAVIS 9 Broncos
    359 2006 TOPPS REGGIE BUSH 9 Heisman
    354 2006 TOPPS MATT LEINART 10 Cardinals TRADED
    139 1991 ENOR GEORGE TRAFTON PRO FOOTBALL H.O.F. 8 HOF
    39 1991 ENOR WEEB EWBANK PRO FOOTBALL H.O.F. 8 HOF
    30 1991 ENOR JIMMY CONZELMAN PRO FOOTBALL H.O.F. 9 HOF
    98 1991 ENOR MIKE MICHALSKE PRO FOOTBALL H.O.F. 8 HOF
    21 1951 BOWMAN ARNIE WEINMEISTER 4 Giants/HOF
    116 1959 TOPPS JERRY KRAMER 7 Packers/60''s
    143 1984 TOPPS ANDRE TIPPETT 7 Patriots


  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Jason, what's a PSA 4 Bednarik going for these days? I may be interested...depending on when the baby arrives. image >>



    Hasn't been one on ebay in awhile..I would guess around $400 based on what I paid a year or 2 ago when I got it ($375) and the current going rate for a PSA 5 ($800-$1,000)..

    Jason
    I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit,
    according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
  • FavreFan1971FavreFan1971 Posts: 3,103 ✭✭✭
    Envoy, just dropped you an email regarding you cards at PSA
  • Here is my short trade list:

    1948 Leaf Bill Dudley PSA 5
    1993 SP John Lynch PSA 9
    (2) 1993 SP John Lynch PSA 10

    Click Here
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    Another new one thanks to Mr. Gunnip

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    dave

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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for posting a pic, Dave.

    Glad you were able to upgrade from your 6. As I wrote before, that's a very sharp 7.
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Glad you were able to upgrade from your 6. As I wrote before, that's a very sharp 7. >>




    Thanks!, however this one was bought already graded. I still have the raw card waiting to be graded. I'm hoping for an 8 on that one. It may be a while until I submit though....


    Dave

    FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
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  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭
    What do you guys think about this raw card? Not sure what's up with the top right border. I would be very happy if this could bring a 7.

    image

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  • GDM67GDM67 Posts: 2,525 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Thanks!, however this one was bought already graded. >>

    image I would've sworn that was the same card.
  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭
    What do you guys think of my purchases last night? I bought both for less than $60 dlvd.

    Greg M.

    1951 Bowman Arnold Weinmeister

    1951 Bowman Lou Creekmur
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
  • gregm13gregm13 Posts: 5,798 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What do you guys think about this raw card? Not sure what's up with the top right border. I would be very happy if this could bring a 7.

    image >>



    That is a gorgeous card....I think it's a solid 7. What did you pay for it? Where did you get it?

    Regards,

    Greg M.
    Collecting vintage auto'd fb cards and Dan Marino cards!!

    References:
    Onlychild, Ahmanfan, fabfrank, wufdude, jradke, Reese, Jasp, thenavarro
    E-Bay id: greg_n_meg
  • Here's my first available list:

    ALL ARE NQ

    1948 Bowman Alex Wojciechowicz PSA 7
    1948 Leaf Bobby Layne PSA 5
    1948 Leaf Charley Trippi PSA 5
    1948 Leaf Sammy Baugh PSA 5

    Email me at vpprotege@aol.com if you are interested.

    Will have more later.

    Thanks, Marc.
    Have shine box will travel
    ------------
    BOBBY ORR
    THE BEST THERE WAS!
    THE BEST THERE EVER WILL BE!
    ------------
  • DavemriDavemri Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What do you guys think of my purchases last night? I bought both for less than $60 dlvd. >>



    Look like super nice cards for the price. I was watching them as well but forgot to set my snipe...

    Dave

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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭
    My graded just POPPED!!!From my 05/02 Sub...

    Overall, I'm pretty disappointed..I got the guy who gives the lower grade on benefit of the doubt...I expected many more 10's than what I got. (21 PSA 10's of the 100 cards submitted)..I was hoping/expecting around 40...

    Anyway, here are the availables those of you reading this thread might be interested in:

    1983 TOPPS 38 MIKE SINGLETARY N/A 9-----------------SOLD
    1984 TOPPS 111 HOWIE LONG N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 111 HOWIE LONG N/A 8
    1984 TOPPS 143 ANDRE TIPPETT N/A 10-----------------SOLD
    1984 TOPPS 280 ERIC DICKERSON N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 286 JACKIE SLATER N/A 9------------------SOLD
    1984 TOPPS 300 MORTEN ANDERSEN N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 333 MIKE QUICK N/A 9 ---------------------SOLD
    1984 TOPPS 380 DARRELL GREEN N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 381 RUSS GRIMM N/A 9
    1988 TOPPS 157 CHRIS DOLEMAN N/A 10
    1988 TOPPS 157 CHRIS DOLEMAN N/A 9
    1989 PRO SET 235 RANDALL McDANIEL N/A 9
    1989 PRO SET 335 JAY NOVACEK N/A 10 -----------------SOLD
    1989 SCORE 408S DERMONTTI DAWSON SUPPLEMENTAL 9---------SOLD
    1989 SCORE 408S DERMONTTI DAWSON SUPPLEMENTAL 8
    1989 SCORE 333S STERLING SHARPE SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1989 SCORE 407S NEIL SMITH SUPPLEMENTAL 10
    1989 SCORE 407S NEIL SMITH SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1989 SCORE 380S ERIC ALLEN SUPPLEMENTAL 10
    1989 SCORE 380S ERIC ALLEN SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1990 ACTION PACKED 10 LEROY BUTLER ROOKIE UPDATE 8
    1990 ACTION PACKED 46 SHANNON SHARPE ROOKIE UPDATE 8
    1991 SCORE 85T ERIK WILLIAMS SUPPLEMENTAL 9-----------------SOLD
    1991 SCORE 94T AENEAS WILLIAMS SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1993 BOWMAN 421 WILLIE ROAF FOIL 9
    1994 STADIUM CLUB 401 KEENAN McCARDELL N/A 9

    PM me or e-mail me at jabeduco@yahoo.com if you are interested in any of these...

    Jason

    I'm here to question, not to inspire or build up. To live how I want, as I see fit,
    according to my values and my needs. Nothing holds dominion over me, I stand alone as the ruler of my life.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My graded just POPPED!!!From my 05/02 Sub...

    Overall, I'm pretty disappointed..I got the guy who gives the lower grade on benefit of the doubt...I expected many more 10's than what I got. (21 PSA 10's of the 100 cards submitted)..I was hoping/expecting around 40...

    Anyway, here are the availables those of you reading this thread might be interested in:

    1983 TOPPS 38 MIKE SINGLETARY N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 111 HOWIE LONG N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 111 HOWIE LONG N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 280 ERIC DICKERSON N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 286 JACKIE SLATER N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 300 MORTEN ANDERSEN N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 333 MIKE QUICK N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 380 DARRELL GREEN N/A 9
    1984 TOPPS 381 RUSS GRIMM N/A 9
    1988 TOPPS 157 CHRIS DOLEMAN N/A 10
    1988 TOPPS 157 CHRIS DOLEMAN N/A 9
    1989 PRO SET 235 RANDALL McDANIEL N/A 9
    1989 PRO SET 335 JAY NOVACEK N/A 10
    1989 SCORE 408S DERMONTTI DAWSON SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1989 SCORE 408S DERMONTTI DAWSON SUPPLEMENTAL 8
    1989 SCORE 333S STERLING SHARPE SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1989 SCORE 407S NEIL SMITH SUPPLEMENTAL 10
    1989 SCORE 407S NEIL SMITH SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1989 SCORE 380S ERIC ALLEN SUPPLEMENTAL 10
    1989 SCORE 380S ERIC ALLEN SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1990 ACTION PACKED 10 LEROY BUTLER ROOKIE UPDATE 8
    1990 ACTION PACKED 46 SHANNON SHARPE ROOKIE UPDATE 8
    1991 SCORE 85T ERIK WILLIAMS SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1991 SCORE 94T AENEAS WILLIAMS SUPPLEMENTAL 9
    1993 BOWMAN 421 WILLIE ROAF FOIL 9
    1994 STADIUM CLUB 401 KEENAN McCARDELL N/A 9

    PM me or e-mail me at jabeduco@yahoo.com if you are interested in any of these...

    Jason >>



    Jason,
    PM sent...

    Mark
  • shagrotn77shagrotn77 Posts: 5,581 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1990 ACTION PACKED 46 SHANNON SHARPE ROOKIE UPDATE 8 >>



    That's harsh. What is it that separates 8's, 9's and 10's on this card, in the eyes of PSA graders? Obviously centering is a factor, and I'm sure surface scratches would merit a downgrade too. But I'm betting you could hold a PSA 8 next to a 10 and not really be able to tell the difference.
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  • JasP24JasP24 Posts: 4,645 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>1990 ACTION PACKED 46 SHANNON SHARPE ROOKIE UPDATE 8 >>



    That's harsh. What is it that separates 8's, 9's and 10's on this card, in the eyes of PSA graders? Obviously centering is a factor, and I'm sure surface scratches would merit a downgrade too. But I'm betting you could hold a PSA 8 next to a 10 and not really be able to tell the difference. >>



    Absolutely..These were compared to PSA 10's that I previously owned and were at LEAST equal to...For the Action Packed, you have to get a grader who has experience with them..If not, the guy looks it them in comparison to other regular, sharp cornered cards and they look like 8's...Just luck of the draw...There is no difference in PSA 8-9-10s of these cards..All came directly from a NON-stuck together box...I cherry picked the best from the box...Same as the 10's I used to own..

    Jason
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  • envoy98envoy98 Posts: 4,000 ✭✭
    Got my 5 day (4 card sub today)
    Finally got my PSA 10 Doleman!! WOO HOO!

    PSA Order Status for Submission # 616921

    LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
    1 1991 PRO SET 835 JOHN RANDLE N/A 8
    1 1991 PRO SET 835 JOHN RANDLE N/A 8
    2 1992 COLLECTOR'S EDGE 228 JIMMY SMITH N/A 9
    3 1988 TOPPS 157 CHRIS DOLEMAN N/A 10

    Date Received: 05/15/2007
    Date of Grades Posted: 05/18/2007
    Date Shipped: 05/18/2007


    The Randles should have both been at least 9's. I've opened more than 100 of these and these were two of the better ones. I have another 15 at PSA now, so I should end up with a 10 eventually. I am REALLY stoked about the PSA 10 Doleman though, that makes my day. I've never seen one on ebay and I wanted/needed it for my Vikings set. The Jimmy Smith I bought raw off Sportlots, thought it would be a 10, but I have two more chances with that card. It's a really light and flimsy card but for some reason isn't as prone to chipping as one would think.

    So the pop increases by 2 on the PSA 10 Doleman. I spent more than a year trying to find one and here Jason has one for sale the same day I pull mine. Go figure. image
    I agree on those Action Packed cards, there is little to no difference in most that I've seen. I have no idea what separates an 8 from a 9 from a 10.

    If anyone is interested in a PSA 8 Randle, let me know. lol
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