<< <i>This is a coin (the only one) that I bought off of AMAZON.com auctions. Does anybody remember that venue? I searched it for a couple of years faithfully, always frustrated. This coin I actually bought sight unseen. It is the ONLY coin I bought from an auction venue without a pic. One of my favorite Fines.
Tyler >>
I'm having difficulty locating an 1899-O myself - and I can see why this is one of your favorite Fines.
...update, begging helped me bring back a coin I sold to Brandon - to whom I subsequently sold another upgrade - this beautiful 1895-O in PCGS 40. { Yup, its going to get cracked out for the Whitman... }
...and lastly another coin I should have kept in the first place - a splendid 1905-O Half in PCGS F-15.
Thanks again, Tyler for relinquishing back to me.
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...update, begging helped me bring back a coin I sold to Brandon - to whom I subsequently sold another upgrade - this beautiful 1895-O in PCGS 40. { Yup, its going to get cracked out for the Whitman... }
I wanted to share these three halves out of my set that have PL surfaces. The 1909-S would easily recieve a PL designation from NGC and was formerly owned by Dr. Pete and now me (PCGS64). I am pretty certain the 1896-O would also (PCGS63), the 1892-S is somewhat more marginal but the surfaces do have PL characteristics (PCGS64). It's not often you run across PL surfaces but on occassion one does turn up. They are hard to resist when you do find one and well worth picking up.
Glenn >>
To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
I hope someday to view Glenn's collection in person...maybe he'll bring one or two to the FUN convention this January. [ I know he's going to attend the Heritage auction because he doesn't want me to walk away with the coins he needs from the Friend sale ......... .....]
Speaking of which...here's something that I find particularly attractive...but I've been told its NFS*
Oh, yeah, the reverse image has an itsy-bitsy-teenie-weenie O mint mark on it.
NFS* = Not For Sale
But I'd imagine a cool $250K might make it available.
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NewBarberGuy that is a great story about your 1909 and a great coin. Looks like a 45 to me as well.
Broadstruck thanks for enjoying the PL trio. I love finding a business strike coin with PL surfaces. Speaking of which Dale's 1897-S which I saw 3 times this week (I couldn't resist looking when I passed them on the bourse) is a true DMPL Barber Half. An amazing coin!
I was fortunate to make a couple of new additions to the set and I will try and get pics up when I return home later in the week. If you check my set though to see what's up don't worry there are a couple of other surprises I will photograph as well. Just to keep a little suspense Mike.
Its no secret that I'm working on a raw set of halves- and I located a nice 1892-O in PCGS 25 on eBay from David Finkelstein. I threw in a few bids - and kept getting bumped higher and higher. I finally dropped out at $775 or so [ I thought enough is enough ]. The coin closed at $845.
Well a few moments ago I went back onto eBay and located another 1892-O - also in a PCGS holder ... the coin was just listed as I hadn't seen it earlier this evening.
It had a BIN of $900 - and someone had already put an offer in on it - which was refused ...
I couldn't help myself, I had to have it.
I'd say this coin was worth $55.00 more than a VF 25 - wouldn't you ?
This coin won't be getting cracked out for the Whitman - I'll keep it with the great looking 1904-O I picked up a couple of weeks ago from Dogwood - somethings just shouldn't get the "Axe".
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PonyExpress8, interested to see what coins you picked up...any mid-grade Barbers? ARCO--very nice VG's...lots of character in those coins. Don, gorgeous looking 95-O. Mike, beautiful 92-S and 95-O. Lots of great looking coins being displayed here. I have a batch in for grading at PCGS so hopefully I'll have the results this week...a half dozen cross-overs and a few raws...fingers crossed! Regards to all, Dave
Dave----good luck on your submissions. I don't cross my fingers, just chew my nails
Mike---yes that's worth 55 more than a VF25, but I do prefer the circulated look
While we are on 92-O's here's mine again. XF45
BTW-I purchased Mark Goodmans book on Numismatic Photography. Did a quick read through and it has alot of GREAT info in it. I'll see if I can put it to good use.
That's pretty much the case with the 92-O, very expensive in the lower circ grades, but not much higher in the AU grades. I'm in the process of putting a beautiful PCGS, OGH, AU-55 1892-O up on my website. At the price I'm asking, there's alot more coin here for the money than the VF-25 example that was offered on Ebay. The coin has blazing luster with the obverse devices displaying a slightly darker shade of grayish tone. The coin's a real knockout....my images don't do the coin any justice. What appears to be a light scratch running across Ms Liberty's face is on the holder and not the coin.
In addition, I'll be offering the following Barber halves on my website: NGC, AU-55 1900-O, NGC, AU-55 1904-O, PCGS, AU-55 1910-S.
Tombr--verrrry nice looking 92-O; Dan, great looking AU's.
For those that are looking for a 97-S XF-45 (like me), there's one listed for auction at Stack's (Decatur Sale on 21/22 Aug 08). It's an ANACS EF-45. However, I believe this same coin sold on 13 Nov 07 at Stack's as part of the Amherst and Waccabuc Collections for the hammer price of $1100 ($1265 with BP). The coin itself appears to be an XF-40 to me even though there's decent wingtip separation on the right wing on the reverse but the bottom of the band under Liberty doesn't appear as visibile as I would normally associate with a strong XF-45. I'm thinking this coin didn't cross at PCGS at the acceptable grade (XF-45) or for some other reason, and it's a retread. Otherwise, I would be willing to pay good money for the coin...but to risk a lot of money on a coin that won't cross is a risk I'm not willing to take right now. Have been burned on several occasions with coins that either won't cross at the grade or come back as "cleaned" even though they were slabbed by NGC and/or ANACS. Here's the link for the Decatur Auction at Stack's: http://www.stacks.com/lotdetail.aspx?lrid=AN00110153&side=R
Dave, I agree that it's the same coin, and looks like a XF45 detail wise. I'm suspicious of the toning around the rims. I cracked out a 98-S in an NGC XF45 holder once that didn't have that sort of toning and PCGS bagged it as cleaned. I still have the 98-S and it has since developed the same sort of toning around the rims. I've learned to be wary of NGC and ANACS coins that look to "clean" for the grade. JMHO That's why I stay with the darker VF and XF coins. MFH and the other guys would be better suited to judge this coin.
<< <i>Oh, by the way, JJ Teaparty just picked up a 1904-S, PCGS XF-45...list price is $5250...should be on their site shortly. >>
Six months ago it would have been 3250 and 2 years ago under a grand. There is no reason for that coin to be at that level when quite a few in the set are as tough or tougher.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
Tombr, thanks for your opinion on the grade. I hate it when you crack out a coin for grading and it comes back in a BB. I almost did that to some of the x-overs I recently submitted but thought better of it...I've been burned before in crack-outs. And BTW, that's a really nice 97-S...great tone!
Dogwood, agree with you on the 04-S...I've seen more 04-S's for sale in the past six months than many of the other hard to find coins (in XF-45). I guess it's the hype that goes with the collection. Would love to get my hands on some rarely seen "common" or "key date" coins.
I bought Mark Goodmans book and finnaly got around to some serious practicing. Now I know this 1912 is just a common date and nothing spectacular, but don't you think it has a fabulous look? It's raw and I think it would go VF25 easily. The pics represent the coin in hand and thanks to Mark for making it possible
<< <i>I bought Mark Goodmans book and finnaly got around to some serious practicing. Now I know this 1912 is just a common date and nothing spectacular, but don't you think it has a fabulous look? It's raw and I think it would go VF25 easily. The pics represent the coin in hand and thanks to Mark for making it possible
Wouldn't this look great in Mike's Dansco
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I'm on Cape Cod at the moment and this is the first chance I've had to look at a computer.
I like the 1912-P, Tom, but I already have a nice one in the Whitman. If anything goes into the Dansco it would be an AU 50 +. I'm not too excited about breaking out AU coins though....unless they are in ANACS holders.
Glad to see the Mega Thread rolling along.
I agree with Dogwood, its unfathomable what's happening with the 04-S. I wish Craig would pipe-in now and give us his thoughts. His 04-S is also a 45.
I remember when I thought I paid a King's Ramsom for the one I bought a couple of years ago in PCGS 55 [ $3,000 ] - and I was floored when I bought an AU 58 for Nine Thousand. I sold the 55 for $6K to HLRC soon after the purchase of the 58.
I wonder what my 58 would bring now.
Brandon, I'm sure you're pleased that you bought my VF 25 when you did.
I like the 97-S that Stacks is auctioning - but after being burnt on the NGC 35 I bought from them - that wouldn't cross - for close to a $1K - I took a bath on this coin when I sold it on eBay for mid $600's. The new owner wasn't nuts about it either but after a series of emails back and forth - he decided to keep it.
Nice 1897-S halves, BFJohnson and Tombr.
Dan - Congrats on selling the 92-O in 55; its a nice coin and if I didn't already have one in 58, I would have gone for it.
Now - I gotta check out eBay before I loose out on anything.....
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Great image and nice looking half! I too just received Mark's book and can't wait to get into the details and start practicing on improving images. >>
Casey, I tried many different times on that 12P before I got it right. The book is a treasure trove of info. PM me if you want to know what worked best.
Mike, glad to hear you're up and about at Cape Cod and have access to the board. BTW, I should have taken you up on the 09-S you had for sale awhile back. I just got my grade back from PCGS on the 09-S I bought from Stack's last year...although it was not imaged in the catalog or online, it was advertised as a raw XF-45...but PCGS just graded it as an XF-40.
I know, I know, one should always examine the coin in hand before purchasing but that's not always possible when purchasing via Internet. I figured buying from a reputable auctioneer such as Stack's was safe...guess not. I've always respected their opinions and grades but I learned the hard way...it's still a subjective business/hobby. I don't think I have any recourse with Stack's at this point...they indicate that their grades are subjective and won't accept coins back because of a difference in grade on a raw coin.
newbarberguy--------the difference between 40 and 45 can be debated all day. I've seen what I think are 45's in 40 holders and visa versa too. We all have. As you said, it's subjective. Now if they claimed it to be 45 and it came back F15, then you have a beef of course. The value difference shouldn't be that much. If you're talking 65 to 66 that's a whole different story. One day you'll get a 45 for 40 money. It all tends to even out in the end. I wouldn't fret too much about it. JMHO
Mike, glad to hear you're up and about at Cape Cod and have access to the board. BTW, I should have taken you up on the 09-S you had for sale awhile back. I just got my grade back from PCGS on the 09-S I bought from Stack's last year...although it was not imaged in the catalog or online, it was advertised as a raw XF-45...but PCGS just graded it as an XF-40.
I know, I know, one should always examine the coin in hand before purchasing but that's not always possible when purchasing via Internet. I figured buying from a reputable auctioneer such as Stack's was safe...guess not. I've always respected their opinions and grades but I learned the hard way...it's still a subjective business/hobby. I don't think I have any recourse with Stack's at this point...they indicate that their grades are subjective and won't accept coins back because of a difference in grade on a raw coin.
Thoughts? >>
Finding the 1909-S in XF is fairly difficult to find so you ought to be proud of that coin if you like the look of it. I second TomB's comments completely. PCGS doesn't consistently grade Barber halves and you can see coins that are both overgraded and undergraded. I own dozens of them. most of them worked out in my favor, but a few haven't, including a 1904-S that I consider XF but PCGS holdered as VF35.
I definitely wouldn't send back an XF40 coin that was advertised as XF45 for any date in the Barber half series. The prices are too similar and finding an XF coin is damn hard as it is. Pat yourself on the back....you dun good!
At least PCGS didn't body bag the coin ! Consider yourself fortunate ! I'd keep the coin as a XF 40 - and someday you'll send in a few border-line coins and hope for upgrades !
I have only bought two coins from Stack's [ since the merger with ANR ] both certified by other than PCGS TPG's; both have proven to be somewhat of a disappointment as PCGS BB'd both as A/S.
Its been an expensive lesson but I'm swearing off non PCGS coins from now on.
BTW, the Cape has been great...its Heaven here today. Makes me wonder why I am not here for four months instead of two. Oh, yeah ! Its "work" that keeps me away !
Happy hunting every one !
Edit to add:
Boyhowdy: Steve, I didn't see the 92-O half in 53-55 on eBay - do you have an image ? Also, what did it close at ?
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Tyler--thanks for the response and advice...the coin arrived today in its slab and after carefully studying it, it is an XF-40 and is gorgeous. No distinguishing marks, nice light gold tone throughout with a decent strike...in the words of my wife--"it's pretty"--go figure! With her validation, I suppose it's a keeper.
Mike--I'll let you know how the rest of the coins turn out--have six coins at PCGS pending cross-over...enjoy your vacation on the Cape...and don't wear yourself out visiting all those coin stores!!
I shot some photos of my new additions to the Barber Half set to share with everyone.
The 1894 was a duplicate from Dale Friend's Set he liked very much and so do I. Original toning, clean surfaces and a great strike give this coin superior eye appeal. His #2 set of Barber Halves are being sold in the Heritage Auction at FUN in January 2009 and the set was on display at the recent Baltimore ANA. An absolutely stunning and beautiful set Dale took many years to put together. I would highly recommend if any of you can to check it out as Dale has nearly all of his halves imaged in the Registry.
The other half is an 1896-S with vivid original toning. The holder has some scuffs on the reverse but it is an S mint coin.
Eventually, I will probably be getting the set re-holdered when it gets to a certain point.
Dave: what everyone else said. You prob know XF45s by now way better than PCGS graders.
Glenn, simply awesome coins there! Will keep an eye out for your newps as well.
MFH-- enjoy your well deserved vacation and I'm glad to see you have a laptop. I'm going away next week, no laptop
holeinone: I would go VF35-XF40: the obverse will be a grade point or 2 higher because 1909 was a new die and you get a very strong liberty. The reverse might even be old school VF30, and is there may be some ?luster? on the R rim (facing) wing tip area. Common date, not a premium, but a nice coin.
When I get back, hopefully I'll have a few new images for the megathread.
Don
edited: I left Dave out, sorry Dave
Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
Glenn, would be very interested in hearing how the grades come out on the coins you picked up in Baltimore...maybe some XF-45's in there? It's gettting harder and harder to find mid-grade, raw Barber halves that haven't been messed with or that don't have a lot of damage.
Don--great to hear from you. I think you're right on holeinone's coin...I would say VF-35 or perhaps VF-20.
Okay, had one revelation today--DON'T use GOO-GONE to clean a sticker smudge on your PCGS holder...I did and it ate into the plastic...fourtunately not over the coin but on the top right corner of the holder...will have to get it reholdered someday.
It's been quiet here. so I dug out some raw halves I've had for years and took photos, and they really do a good job of representing the coin-----thanks to Mark Goodmans book.
I'll present the coin and give you my take on it. Everyone feel free to chime in and spirited debate is encouraged!
First up 1900-O Raw
I believe the coin was cleaned years ago and is starting to tone back, especially the fields. The obverse has a good strike. There is a minor hit in the cheek and another at 3 o'clock inboard of the stars. The denticles and stars have nice detail too. The band under liberty is full. There are rim hits from about 1 to 5 o'clock. That's the obverse, now the reverse. There is a hit at the "E" in E Pluribus Unum, and some minor hits in the shield. The reverse detail overall is excellent, especially in the eagles left wing. I would say the reverse has a great strike. I'd say we have a solid XF45 example. With a PCGS population in 31 in MS grades, 20 in AU grades and 27 in the VF to XF range this is a tough coin indeed. Alas, I'm certain it would BB. That's my take.
Tom....I agree with you're description of the coin, probably lightly cleaned in the past. I'm going with XF-40 for the grade, the detail looks a little weak on the eagle's right wing and neck area. Then again, being an "O" mintmark Barber half and a date that's notorious for a weak strike, maybe XF-45 is a possibility.
Just picked up a 1913-D Half in ANACS VF 25 from a company in Colorado I've done some business with in the past. I should have it sent to me on the Cape within a week. Sorry no images.
This will be cracked out for the Whitman - and it completes the "2nd Book" .
One down - and only a few left in "Book One" left to go.
Happy Hunting !!
PS: Tom, nice images !!
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Well regardless of the fact that I cashed out of the majority of my Halves to feed near completion of my Quarter set, I couldn't turn down a nice fifty center in the form of this 97-s.
I picked it up at a local B&M. Just misses the XF mark but it's still nice to have. He tempted me with a phenom original 96-s half in 55 with lite chocolate chalky toning. Said he's keeping it for awhile, but i'll be first in line for it. I think I just met a Barber Half I would never sell......if only I can buy it.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
Glenn, I failed to mention this before but those are really nice halves (94-P and 96-S). I love the toning on both of them...it's rare to see that and adds tremendously to the eye appeal and value. Congrats on your two new additions!
Tombr, that's a very nice looking 00-O. It has great toning and the minor ticks and dings hardly detract from it. If it had a cleaning it was long ago...and PCGS might cut you some slack there. As for the grade, I would judge it an XF-45 candidate although I can't see the tip of the eagle's left wing very well. If there's 3D separation at the tip then I'd say you have a definite candidate. The full band on the obverse definitely pushes it to XF-45. I would submit it for grading...although PCGS may dock you a tad for the rim dings and the small tick in the field east of Lady Liberty...i.e. XF-40. Nonetheless, it's a very nice coin and one that I'd be proud to own. Congrats and good luck!
Dogwood, you lucky son of a gun...that's a very nice 97-S...even if it tops out at XF-40 it's a rare find. I've scoured the net looking for a 97-S XF-45 and haven't found any that are already slabbed by PCGS or stand a good chance of crossing over. Congrats on the rare find! Regards, Dave
Tom, nice 1900-O half and one heck of a tough date. Even if it has had a past cleaning its very nice. Like that 1912 as well.
Dogwood one of the toughest dates around the 97-S. That's a great pickup congratulations.
Broadstruck love the color on that 1905-S Dime. Yummmmmmm!
Mike congratulations on your VF 1913-D for the Dansco as well. Always tough to find and you have it complete now? Sweet!
Dave thanks for the kind comments. I am definitely a sucker for colorful toning or or PL surfaces.
Oh Mike by the way, I looked at all 4 Micro O's HLRC had in Baltimore and the MS63 which was formerly Dr. Pete's is just a great great coin.
The only way I could afford that ever is hitting the lottery or splitting ownership. And the toughest thing is it probably is worth every penny and will appreciate more and more over time. Certainly would be the highlight of anyone's set. With what about 52 known to exist total and maybe 12 total MS coins. That is right up there with some of the rarest coins ever made!
Sigh.
At least I got to look at them with the loop and study them closely and dream! How crazy is it to have 3 MS coins to look at in one sitting along with a VG10 coin. May never happen again and the MS68 Eliasberg coin in Dale's set was also on display as well. Come to think about it now I have studied 4 MS mirco O's of the dozen that probably exist so I guess I should not whine. LOL
Dennis - That's a great pick up of a 97-S in VF 35. Last week Brandon sold off his duplicate for mid $700's in a PCGS 35 holder; last month I sold off my duplicate 97-S in an NGC 35 holder for mis $600's.
Glenn - I'm sorry to not have mentioned the two NEWPS - I was waiting for the "other" images before I commented. Both nice coins. Congratulations. I fully understand about the Micro O that HLRC has [ ex: Shireman] - I too would give my "eye-teeth" for that coin. Yes, a major Lotto win would certainly be a help in completing a choice set in MS.
Casey - Congratulations on the "upgrade". Broadstruck's images sure beat the DLRC's images !! If I hadn't already had a nice example from Paul Savoie in PCGS 58 - I too would have jumped at that coin.
Happy hunting everyone !
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The 13-D arrived yesterday - and I'm more than please with it. Its a truly nice original coin and very properly graded as a VF 25...it could have just as easily have been placed in a VF 30 holder.
The 13-D completes "Book Two" of the two-book album set from Whitman. I have about eight or nine to left in "Book One".
While surfing the web yesterday, I located an upgrade to my 1909-D Quarter [ have a PCGS 53 now ] in PCGS MS 64...and it looks like a nice match to my 09-O in PCGS 64. Images forthcoming once I'm back home.
I love the O/C dime you located - and I'm surprised that Broadstruck didn't see it first, knowing his talents for sniffing out nice O/C material.
Happy hunting everyone !
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Found this rather attractive 1892-S at one of my favorite haunts...
its resting very comfortably in the Whitman.
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Here's the last of the group I got back from PCGS a few weeks ago. Waiting for the next group to to arrive.
It's a VF25.
<< <i>This is a coin (the only one) that I bought off of AMAZON.com auctions. Does anybody remember that venue? I searched it for a couple of years faithfully, always frustrated. This coin I actually bought sight unseen. It is the ONLY coin I bought from an auction venue without a pic. One of my favorite Fines.
Tyler >>
I'm having difficulty locating an 1899-O myself - and I can see why this is one of your favorite Fines.
...update, begging helped me bring back a coin I sold to Brandon - to whom I subsequently sold another
upgrade - this beautiful 1895-O in PCGS 40. { Yup, its going to get cracked out for the Whitman...
...and lastly another coin I should have kept in the first place - a splendid 1905-O Half in PCGS F-15.
Thanks again, Tyler for relinquishing back to me.
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upgrade - this beautiful 1895-O in PCGS 40. { Yup, its going to get cracked out for the Whitman... }
NO Mike don't do it
Sell it to me
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I wanted to share these three halves out of my set that have PL surfaces. The 1909-S would easily recieve a PL designation from NGC and was formerly owned by Dr. Pete and now me (PCGS64). I am pretty certain the 1896-O would also (PCGS63), the 1892-S is somewhat more marginal but the surfaces do have PL characteristics (PCGS64). It's not often you run across PL surfaces but on occassion one does turn up. They are hard to resist when you do find one and well worth picking up.
Glenn >>
I hope someday to view Glenn's collection in person...maybe he'll bring one or two
to the FUN convention this January. [ I know he's going to attend the Heritage auction because
he doesn't want me to walk away with the coins he needs from the Friend sale .........
Speaking of which...here's something that I find particularly attractive...but I've been told its NFS*
Oh, yeah, the reverse image has an itsy-bitsy-teenie-weenie O mint mark on it.
NFS* = Not For Sale
But I'd imagine a cool $250K might make it available.
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Okay GoKings....lets see some new images !!!
Hold onto your hats boys and girls...its going to be sweet...
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Broadstruck thanks for enjoying the PL trio. I love finding a business strike coin with PL surfaces. Speaking of which Dale's 1897-S which I saw 3 times this week (I couldn't resist looking when I passed them on the bourse) is a true DMPL Barber Half. An amazing coin!
I was fortunate to make a couple of new additions to the set and I will try and get pics up when I return home later in the week. If you check my set though to see what's up don't worry there are a couple of other surprises I will photograph as well. Just to keep a little suspense Mike.
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Its no secret that I'm working on a raw set of halves- and I located a nice 1892-O in PCGS 25 on eBay from
David Finkelstein. I threw in a few bids - and kept getting bumped higher and higher. I finally dropped out at $775 or so [ I thought enough is enough ]. The coin closed at $845.
Well a few moments ago I went back onto eBay and located another 1892-O - also in a PCGS holder ...
the coin was just listed as I hadn't seen it earlier this evening.
It had a BIN of $900 - and someone had already put an offer in on it - which was refused ...
I couldn't help myself, I had to have it.
I'd say this coin was worth $55.00 more than a VF 25 - wouldn't you ?
This coin won't be getting cracked out for the Whitman - I'll keep it with the great looking 1904-O
I picked up a couple of weeks ago from Dogwood - somethings just shouldn't get the "Axe".
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ARCO--very nice VG's...lots of character in those coins.
Don, gorgeous looking 95-O.
Mike, beautiful 92-S and 95-O.
Lots of great looking coins being displayed here. I have a batch in for grading at PCGS so hopefully I'll have the results this week...a half dozen cross-overs and a few raws...fingers crossed!
Regards to all,
Dave
Mike---yes that's worth 55 more than a VF25, but I do prefer the circulated look
While we are on 92-O's here's mine again. XF45
BTW-I purchased Mark Goodmans book on Numismatic Photography. Did a quick read through and it has alot of GREAT info in it. I'll see if I can put it to good use.
That's pretty much the case with the 92-O, very expensive in the lower circ grades, but not much higher in the AU grades. I'm in the process of putting a beautiful PCGS, OGH, AU-55 1892-O up on my website. At the price I'm asking, there's alot more coin here for the money than the VF-25 example that was offered on Ebay. The coin has blazing luster with the obverse devices displaying a slightly darker shade of grayish tone. The coin's a real knockout....my images don't do the coin any justice. What appears to be a light scratch running across Ms Liberty's face is on the holder and not the coin.
In addition, I'll be offering the following Barber halves on my website: NGC, AU-55 1900-O, NGC, AU-55 1904-O, PCGS, AU-55 1910-S.
1892-O SOLD
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For those that are looking for a 97-S XF-45 (like me), there's one listed for auction at Stack's (Decatur Sale on 21/22 Aug 08). It's an ANACS EF-45. However, I believe this same coin sold on 13 Nov 07 at Stack's as part of the Amherst and Waccabuc Collections for the hammer price of $1100 ($1265 with BP). The coin itself appears to be an XF-40 to me even though there's decent wingtip separation on the right wing on the reverse but the bottom of the band under Liberty doesn't appear as visibile as I would normally associate with a strong XF-45. I'm thinking this coin didn't cross at PCGS at the acceptable grade (XF-45) or for some other reason, and it's a retread. Otherwise, I would be willing to pay good money for the coin...but to risk a lot of money on a coin that won't cross is a risk I'm not willing to take right now. Have been burned on several occasions with coins that either won't cross at the grade or come back as "cleaned" even though they were slabbed by NGC and/or ANACS. Here's the link for the Decatur Auction at Stack's: http://www.stacks.com/lotdetail.aspx?lrid=AN00110153&side=R
And here's the link for the same coin that sold during the November auction: http://www.stacks.com/lotdetail.aspx?lrid=AN00076115
Any opinions out there as to the grade? They appear to be the same coin to me.
Regards to all,
Dave
Here's my 97-S, it's a VF30
<< <i>Oh, by the way, JJ Teaparty just picked up a 1904-S, PCGS XF-45...list price is $5250...should be on their site shortly. >>
Six months ago it would have been 3250 and 2 years ago under a grand. There is no reason for that coin to be at that level when quite a few in the set are as tough or tougher.
Dogwood, agree with you on the 04-S...I've seen more 04-S's for sale in the past six months than many of the other hard to find coins (in XF-45). I guess it's the hype that goes with the collection. Would love to get my hands on some rarely seen "common" or "key date" coins.
Tom, I love the look of this coin.
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<< <i>Looks like Teaparty sold the PCGS, 04-S in XF-45......it's off their website already. >>
10K by Christmas.
Wouldn't this look great in Mike's Dansco
<< <i>I bought Mark Goodmans book and finnaly got around to some serious practicing. Now I know this 1912 is just a common date and nothing spectacular, but don't you think it has a fabulous look? It's raw and I think it would go VF25 easily. The pics represent the coin in hand and thanks to Mark for making it possible
Wouldn't this look great in Mike's Dansco
I'm on Cape Cod at the moment and this is the first chance I've had to look at a computer.
I like the 1912-P, Tom, but I already have a nice one in the Whitman. If anything goes into the Dansco
it would be an AU 50 +. I'm not too excited about breaking out AU coins though....unless they are in ANACS holders.
Glad to see the Mega Thread rolling along.
I agree with Dogwood, its unfathomable what's happening with the 04-S.
I wish Craig would pipe-in now and give us his thoughts. His 04-S is also a 45.
I remember when I thought I paid a King's Ramsom for the one I bought a couple
of years ago in PCGS 55 [ $3,000 ] - and I was floored when I bought an AU 58 for
Nine Thousand. I sold the 55 for $6K to HLRC soon after the purchase of the 58.
I wonder what my 58 would bring now.
Brandon, I'm sure you're pleased that you bought my VF 25 when you did.
I like the 97-S that Stacks is auctioning - but after being burnt on the NGC 35
I bought from them - that wouldn't cross - for close to a $1K - I took a bath on this
coin when I sold it on eBay for mid $600's. The new owner wasn't nuts about it either
but after a series of emails back and forth - he decided to keep it.
Nice 1897-S halves, BFJohnson and Tombr.
Dan - Congrats on selling the 92-O in 55; its a nice coin and if I didn't already have
one in 58, I would have gone for it.
Now - I gotta check out eBay before I loose out on anything.....
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Great image and nice looking half! I too just received Mark's book and can't wait to get into the details and start practicing on improving images.
<< <i>tombr,
Great image and nice looking half! I too just received Mark's book and can't wait to get into the details and start practicing on improving images. >>
Casey, I tried many different times on that 12P before I got it right. The book is a treasure trove of info. PM me if you want to know what worked best.
Mike, glad to hear you're up and about at Cape Cod and have access to the board. BTW, I should have taken you up on the 09-S you had for sale awhile back. I just got my grade back from PCGS on the 09-S I bought from Stack's last year...although it was not imaged in the catalog or online, it was advertised as a raw XF-45...but PCGS just graded it as an XF-40.
I know, I know, one should always examine the coin in hand before purchasing but that's not always possible when purchasing via Internet. I figured buying from a reputable auctioneer such as Stack's was safe...guess not. I've always respected their opinions and grades but I learned the hard way...it's still a subjective business/hobby. I don't think I have any recourse with Stack's at this point...they indicate that their grades are subjective and won't accept coins back because of a difference in grade on a raw coin.
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<< <i>Tombr, great looking 12-P.
Mike, glad to hear you're up and about at Cape Cod and have access to the board. BTW, I should have taken you up on the 09-S you had for sale awhile back. I just got my grade back from PCGS on the 09-S I bought from Stack's last year...although it was not imaged in the catalog or online, it was advertised as a raw XF-45...but PCGS just graded it as an XF-40.
I know, I know, one should always examine the coin in hand before purchasing but that's not always possible when purchasing via Internet. I figured buying from a reputable auctioneer such as Stack's was safe...guess not. I've always respected their opinions and grades but I learned the hard way...it's still a subjective business/hobby. I don't think I have any recourse with Stack's at this point...they indicate that their grades are subjective and won't accept coins back because of a difference in grade on a raw coin.
Thoughts? >>
Finding the 1909-S in XF is fairly difficult to find so you ought to be proud of that coin if you like the look of it. I second TomB's comments completely. PCGS doesn't consistently grade Barber halves and you can see coins that are both overgraded and undergraded. I own dozens of them. most of them worked out in my favor, but a few haven't, including a 1904-S that I consider XF but PCGS holdered as VF35.
I definitely wouldn't send back an XF40 coin that was advertised as XF45 for any date in the Barber half series. The prices are too similar and finding an XF coin is damn hard as it is. Pat yourself on the back....you dun good!
Tyler
At least PCGS didn't body bag the coin ! Consider yourself fortunate !
I'd keep the coin as a XF 40 - and someday you'll send in a few border-line coins and hope for upgrades !
I have only bought two coins from Stack's [ since the merger with ANR ]
both certified by other than PCGS TPG's; both have proven to be somewhat
of a disappointment as PCGS BB'd both as A/S.
Its been an expensive lesson but I'm swearing off non PCGS coins from now on.
BTW, the Cape has been great...its Heaven here today. Makes me wonder why
I am not here for four months instead of two. Oh, yeah ! Its "work" that keeps me away !
Happy hunting every one !
Edit to add:
Boyhowdy: Steve, I didn't see the 92-O half in 53-55 on eBay - do you have an image ? Also, what did it close at ?
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Mike--I'll let you know how the rest of the coins turn out--have six coins at PCGS pending cross-over...enjoy your vacation on the Cape...and don't wear yourself out visiting all those coin stores!!
Regards,
Dave
- Jim
The 1894 was a duplicate from Dale Friend's Set he liked very much and so do I. Original toning, clean surfaces and a great strike give this coin superior eye appeal. His #2 set of Barber Halves are being sold in the Heritage Auction at FUN in January 2009 and the set was on display at the recent Baltimore ANA. An absolutely stunning and beautiful set Dale took many years to put together. I would highly recommend if any of you can to check it out as Dale has nearly all of his halves imaged in the Registry.
The other half is an 1896-S with vivid original toning. The holder has some scuffs on the reverse but it is an S mint coin.
Eventually, I will probably be getting the set re-holdered when it gets to a certain point.
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I did pick up some circulated Barbers in Baltimore which are in for grading. I will let everyone know the results as soon as I have them.
Nice 92-O's in AU 50 and 55 Mike and Dan. I sure would like to find one with a little "O" on it.
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<< <i>Dave,
I did pick up some circulated Barbers in Baltimore which are in for grading. I will let everyone know the results as soon as I have them.
Nice 92-O's in AU 50 and 55 Mike and Dan. I sure would like to find one with a little "O" on it.
Glenn,
Your search is over - as HLRC has two MS coins now - the one I'd love to own is EX: Shireman - a beautiful PCGS 63...
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Dave: what everyone else said. You prob know XF45s by now way better than PCGS graders.
Glenn, simply awesome coins there! Will keep an eye out for your newps as well.
MFH-- enjoy your well deserved vacation and I'm glad to see you have a laptop. I'm going away next week, no laptop
holeinone: I would go VF35-XF40: the obverse will be a grade point or 2 higher because 1909 was a new die and you get a very strong liberty. The reverse might even be old school VF30, and is there may be some ?luster? on the R rim (facing) wing tip area. Common date, not a premium, but a nice coin.
When I get back, hopefully I'll have a few new images for the megathread.
Don
edited: I left Dave out, sorry Dave
Don--great to hear from you. I think you're right on holeinone's coin...I would say VF-35 or perhaps VF-20.
Okay, had one revelation today--DON'T use GOO-GONE to clean a sticker smudge on your PCGS holder...I did and it ate into the plastic...fourtunately not over the coin but on the top right corner of the holder...will have to get it reholdered someday.
I'll present the coin and give you my take on it. Everyone feel free to chime in and spirited debate is encouraged!
First up 1900-O Raw
I believe the coin was cleaned years ago and is starting to tone back, especially the fields. The obverse has a good strike. There is a minor hit in the cheek and another at 3 o'clock inboard of the stars. The denticles and stars have nice detail too. The band under liberty is full. There are rim hits from about 1 to 5 o'clock. That's the obverse, now the reverse. There is a hit at the "E" in E Pluribus Unum, and some minor hits in the shield. The reverse detail overall is excellent, especially in the eagles left wing. I would say the reverse has a great strike. I'd say we have a solid XF45 example. With a PCGS population in 31 in MS grades, 20 in AU grades and 27 in the VF to XF range this is a tough coin indeed. Alas, I'm certain it would BB. That's my take.
I yield the floor
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Just picked up a 1913-D Half in ANACS VF 25 from a company in Colorado I've done some business with in the past.
I should have it sent to me on the Cape within a week. Sorry no images.
This will be cracked out for the Whitman - and it completes the "2nd Book" .
One down - and only a few left in "Book One" left to go.
Happy Hunting !!
PS: Tom, nice images !!
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I picked it up at a local B&M. Just misses the XF mark but it's still nice to have. He tempted me with a phenom original 96-s half in 55 with lite chocolate chalky toning. Said he's keeping it for awhile, but i'll be first in line for it. I think I just met a Barber Half I would never sell......if only I can buy it.
Tombr, that's a very nice looking 00-O. It has great toning and the minor ticks and dings hardly detract from it. If it had a cleaning it was long ago...and PCGS might cut you some slack there. As for the grade, I would judge it an XF-45 candidate although I can't see the tip of the eagle's left wing very well. If there's 3D separation at the tip then I'd say you have a definite candidate. The full band on the obverse definitely pushes it to XF-45. I would submit it for grading...although PCGS may dock you a tad for the rim dings and the small tick in the field east of Lady Liberty...i.e. XF-40. Nonetheless, it's a very nice coin and one that I'd be proud to own. Congrats and good luck!
Dogwood, you lucky son of a gun...that's a very nice 97-S...even if it tops out at XF-40 it's a rare find. I've scoured the net looking for a 97-S XF-45 and haven't found any that are already slabbed by PCGS or stand a good chance of crossing over. Congrats on the rare find!
Regards,
Dave
Dogwood one of the toughest dates around the 97-S. That's a great pickup congratulations.
Broadstruck love the color on that 1905-S Dime. Yummmmmmm!
Mike congratulations on your VF 1913-D for the Dansco as well. Always tough to find and you have it complete now? Sweet!
Dave thanks for the kind comments. I am definitely a sucker for colorful toning or or PL surfaces.
Oh Mike by the way, I looked at all 4 Micro O's HLRC had in Baltimore and the MS63 which was formerly Dr. Pete's is just a great great coin.
The only way I could afford that ever is hitting the lottery or splitting ownership. And the toughest thing is it probably is worth every penny and will appreciate more and more over time. Certainly would be the highlight of anyone's set. With what about 52 known to exist total and maybe 12 total MS coins. That is right up there with some of the rarest coins ever made!
Sigh.
At least I got to look at them with the loop and study them closely and dream! How crazy is it to have 3 MS coins to look at in one sitting along with a VG10 coin. May never happen again and the MS68 Eliasberg coin in Dale's set was also on display as well. Come to think about it now I have studied 4 MS mirco O's of the dozen that probably exist so I guess I should not whine. LOL
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Dennis - That's a great pick up of a 97-S in VF 35. Last week Brandon sold off his duplicate for mid $700's in a PCGS 35 holder;
last month I sold off my duplicate 97-S in an NGC 35 holder for mis $600's.
Glenn - I'm sorry to not have mentioned the two NEWPS - I was waiting for the "other" images
before I commented. Both nice coins. Congratulations. I fully understand about the Micro O that
HLRC has [ ex: Shireman] - I too would give my "eye-teeth" for that coin. Yes, a major Lotto win
would certainly be a help in completing a choice set in MS.
Casey - Congratulations on the "upgrade". Broadstruck's images sure beat the DLRC's images !!
If I hadn't already had a nice example from Paul Savoie in PCGS 58 - I too would have jumped at that coin.
Happy hunting everyone !
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Picked this up in Baltimore just for fun. Pretty nice and original, in a PCGS holder and something you just don't see much of.
Have a great weekend everybody.
Glenn
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<< <i>Thought I would share something kind of fun on topic but away from Halves.
Picked this up in Baltimore just for fun. Pretty nice and original, in a PCGS holder and something you just don't see much of.
Have a great weekend everybody.
Glenn
Glenn,
The 13-D arrived yesterday - and I'm more than please with it. Its a truly nice original coin and
very properly graded as a VF 25...it could have just as easily have been placed in a VF 30 holder.
The 13-D completes "Book Two" of the two-book album set from Whitman.
I have about eight or nine to left in "Book One".
While surfing the web yesterday, I located an upgrade to my 1909-D Quarter [ have a PCGS 53 now ]
in PCGS MS 64...and it looks like a nice match to my 09-O in PCGS 64. Images forthcoming once I'm back home.
I love the O/C dime you located - and I'm surprised that Broadstruck didn't see it first, knowing his talents
for sniffing out nice O/C material.
Happy hunting everyone !
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