1. Thaine Price, Akers. This catalog brings forth great discussions of the coins being auctioned, terrific discussions about strike and rarity and a wealth of knowledge from a premier and well-healed dealer in US Gold and a huge fan of barber halves. He has seen most of the best barber halves over the past 30 years or more and knows his stuff very well. From this catalog I deduced that my 04-S half unattributed must have been the Norweb Coin; it is, and now is attributed. Photographs are very well done and the auction contains massive information for its rather diminutive size. I know Steve Duckor shares my love of this catalog. The one book he would want to have if stranded on a desert island! I own the 94 and 12 from this sale.
2. Hugon, Heritage. This catalog has been aluded to above and has good photographs and decent write-ups about the coins, but little in the way of pedigrees. I have studied many of the coins, bought a number of the mint state halves, and I think a good number of these coins may have originated from Emery-Nichols, James Stack, and other auctions. Mostly Heritage doesn't do the additional research on this series to find matches to older important sales. Still, a nicely done catalog and visually very appealing. I own about 10 coins from this sale.
3. Eliasberg, Bowers and Merena. A great run of mint state barber halves, with illustrations of most of the best coins and decent discussions of the coins which were all raw at the time of auction. It is fun to track down the current slab grades on the coins and compare them to the written catalog descriptions. Coins originated mostly from the Clapp family that obtained the coins the year of issue directly from the mint. The unbelievable MS 68 micro O is from this sale and is still mistakenly listed on the NGC census where it was originally graded, but crossed over at PCGS. I feel fotunate to own two coins from this collection, the 04-O and 01-O.
4. Pryor. Bowers and Merena. An important catalog of a nearly complete mint state set of barber halves and with decent illustrations and descriptions. Many of the coins were conservatively graded at the sale, and many, particularly the s-mints, have upgraded a point since the sale. Dr. Duckor has a few of the coins from this sale including the best 93-S half, the first ever graded MS 65 now graded MS 66. I own the 96-S from this sale.
5. Queller. Stacks. A very extensive collection of half dollars with only a few of the barbers being illustrated. The pedigrees are listed and are outstanding in scope and mostly derive from previous Stack's auctions and some direct sales. The great majority were sold raw and most graded reasonably when sent for grading. The micro O from this sale became MS 67, second only to the Eliasberg coin.
6. Emery-Nichols. Bowers and Merena. All raw, all nice coins, most straight from the mint in the year of issue. Photos are limited in size and are black and white. Descriptions are rather brief. Many outstanding coins from this sale are now among the top-graded PCGS coins. I own the 04-O from this collection and perhaps others, currently unattributed. It is difficult from brief descriptions and small black and white photographs to match coins, especially if someone dipped them.
7. Norweb. Bowers and Merena. Another old-time collection with catalog layout similar to Emery-Nichols. I have the 04-S from this collection.
8. James Stack. Stacks. Coins from this collection are some of the top-graded among the rarest coins in the barber series. The catalog is small, photos small and descriptions short to non-existent. None of my coins derive from this set to my knowledge.
9. Mamiye. Bowers and Merena. Complete set with decent descriptions and illustrations, but many of the coins were in the MS 63-64 range and not as exciting as some of the others listed above.
I have just done all of this at one setting without any notes or catalogs in front of me, so I could well be missing some important auction catalogs. I have a number of others such as Robison (Stack's), Southwest Collection (Heritage), Richmond (David Lawrence), and Northbay (Stack's).
As per your list I just searched out the catalogs I am missing and have located all of them w/ prices realized.
Bowers + Merena Mar 5-7, 1998 Boys Town, Charles Mamiye Steve Ivy Dec 10-12, 1976 Southwest Stack's Mar 15-16, 1995 James Stack Bowers + Merena Jan 25, 1996 Pryor Halves Bowers + Merena Nov 12-13, 1984 Emery & Nichols Stack's Feb 10-13, 1982 Robison
Could you kindly confirm if the Robison Sale was in 1979 or 1982, and is the Southwest Collection dating back to Steve Ivy?
Also it looks like the Emery-Nichols set was finished prior to 1929 even though not auctioned for another 55 years?
Many thanks in advance!
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When coins were ordered directly from the mint, were they ordered as single coins or rolls? Did the mint hand-select early strikes, and/or select specimens for collectors? I am interested in how the US Mint handled requests for uncirculated coins back then. Thanks in advance for replies.
I think the dates and catalogs you have are all right-on, except the Southwest Collection I referred to was the very recent set sold by Heritage at Long Beach. Looks like the Boys Town/Charles Mamiye is the correct catalog, too.
As regards to how collectors got uncirculated or even proof coins from the mint, I don't really know. Most were probably ordered by mail. Not everyone collected the branch mint coins early on, but Easterners may have been able to pick up contemporary coins in Philadelphia. Many of the early collectors wanted the best strike and look so they had proof specimens for the P-mints.
Dr. Pete, Thanks for sharing. I'm relatively new to Barber halve collecting and I'm consistently amazed at the wealth of knowledge on Barber halves that's recorded on this board. Appreciate your contributions as well as contributions from MFH, Barberman, Craig, Don, tombr, Cratylus, and the many other Barberphiles that contribute here. Just one question though...I have most of the Stack's catalogs from last year up to present... I find the writeups and photography interesting and plan on keeping the catalogs that list coins I've purchased...is it a good idea to hang on to all the other catalogs? Do they have any collectible or monetary value? Regards, Dave
For the life of me, that's one David Lawrence book that I just can't find!
On Ebay all the time selling as low as $12-13 when I thought I still owned one, but as Murphy's Law goes once you want a copy none to be found.
I use the following book more then the earlier Barber quarter and half book and recommend this highly! "The Complete Guide to Certified Barber Coinage" by David Lawrence & his son John Feigenbaum which was published 1999, is a 146 page softcover bound book which is a more updated version of all 3 DLRC books on Barber dime, quarter, and halves. This essential guide for any Barber coin collector offers historical information on the Barber coin series. Fully illustrated with black and white photos you will read analyses of dates and mintmarks, proof copies of Barber coins and scarcity and rarity ratings for each dime, quarter and half coin.
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is it a good idea to hang on to all the other catalogs? Do they have any collectible or monetary value?
There's good money in auction catalogs and books especially once out of print, I'd keep them all for reference till your homes foundation can no longer hold the weight load... then sell them.
I sold a duplicate set of 3 John Jay Pittman - Akers Hardbound Catalogs on Ebay 2 years ago starting .99c with no reserve, the final closing bid was $683.00 as I recall.
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Broadstruck - You must lay awake at night looking for coins in AU 58 that are missing from my set. I'll look forward to seeing your images of the 1899-S. Yes, that's a date I could use in 58 as I have an AU 55 now. [ Sorry - no images of it however. ]
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DrPete - Thanks for the auction catalog listings. I have a few of them, but not all. I know that alot of major shows have catalogs available from booksellers. Also, I believe there's a website offering all old auction catalogs.
<< <i>When coins were ordered directly from the mint, were they ordered as single coins or rolls? Did the mint hand-select early strikes, and/or select specimens for collectors? I am interested in how the US Mint handled requests for uncirculated coins back then. Thanks in advance for replies. >>
The one person who could have answered that question is no longer with us, Louis Elisaberg; he purchased the Clapp collection in its entirity. Mr. Clapp purchased his coins directly from the US Mint. All of those coins were in Superb Gem condition. I think the US Mint sold off new issues individually - and not in rolls. Although I am sure you could have ordered rolls from national banks.
Good question though and very thought provoking.
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<< <i>Why is the 1903-P Barber Half still such a hot potato, and when did the 1906-D Barber Half become tough >>
Years of searching intently will give you your answer. I have yet to locate an AU 1903-P in anything higher than the ex: NGC 55 - now PCGS 53 in my collection. I added a nice PCGS MS 63 - EX: Pryor Collection which I picked up from HLRC while I was at FUN. I'd jump at an AU 58 if one became available.
Same thing with the "common" 1906-D - very few available - don't remember the POP's this second - but I was locked into an AU 55 until I located an ANACS 61 and crossed it as an AU 58.
I'm still searching for an 1897-S in 58 - Zero POP at PCGS - but NGC has a couple in their POP's.
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MFH, Thanks as I was taken when DLRC had a PCGS 1906-D in AU58 on there site (Looks like the same coin Arnie on Ebay sold) mentioning it's a Scarcer Denver issue. Funny as I have always seen plenty of these... guess as I wasn't looking?
And looking at the 03-P it shares the same POP AU55 and up as some R3 Barbers... but I guess there's none to be found?
Speaking of 1897-S's I just noticed my Error is the web poster-child when you look on CoinFacts to see what a Broadstruck Mint Error is.
Neat I should bring it home from the SDB and take it out to dinner... or something?
I just picked up this 1908-D half for my type set from J.J. Teaparty. As stated earlier, their pictures are pretty bad.
I live in Denver, so this coin has finally come home after 100 years. I know it was just in Boston and it had to be in California when PCGS slabbed it - so it has traveled from coast to coast. Who knows where else it may have traveled in the last 100 years?
A few of my fellow Barberites know I "fell asleep at the wheel" in a manner of speaking last Sunday evening.
My computer's clock had reversed itself to the old time and I was 55 minutes too late to sucessfully bid on the Eagle Harbor Collection [ Ken Larson's collection of Barber Halves ] 1893-O in PCGS.
Not to be outdone by this misfortune, I contacted the winner and we have agreed to a price on this coin.
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<< <i>Newbarberguy, I couldn't help but notice that you've added a few NEWPS: 04-S, 08-S and 09-O all in PCGS 45. When can we see them ? >>
MFH, despite my best efforts to limit my purchases for now, I just couldn't pass these up...pics available soon (maybe)!
Interesting discussion on the 1904-S thread on key dates...agree with Tyler that the 08-P--though listed as a fairly common date--is elusive in XF-45. Although if you look at the BCCS rarity ratings, the 08-P is R4. Of all the XF-45's I've been able to "capture", I think the 01-S has the best strike, luster, and eye appeal...don't know about the 02-S because I haven't found it yet. The 93, 96 and 97 series are always difficult but other dates like the 11-D, 12-S, 13-S, 05-P, 05-O are little boogers at XF-45. Thanks to Craig, I zeroed in on his recommended list of key dates and was able to acquire some nice halves when I first started collecting last year. The buyer market for mid-grade Barber halves seems to be growing and prices seem to be going up for most mid-grades...I just hope the population of mid-grades doesn't drastically increase (because of the demand) to depress current prices. My two cents...
<< <i>The buyer market for mid-grade Barber halves seems to be growing and prices seem to be going up for most mid-grades...I just hope the population of mid-grades doesn't drastically increase (because of the demand) to depress current prices. >>
Though I have limited experience in the series, I would tend to agree with the first part, that the buyer market is growing. I do not think though, that there will be a drastic increase in the availability of coins in these grades, because I don't think that many exist to begin with. I base this on some articles and things I've read that these were tough to come by even back in the 60's and 70's, and sets in this grade range difficult to assemble. With a growing demand, I think we'll see higher prices and less availability. I would also base this assertion on what I've seen with early date walkers. I used to be able to find 17S obv and 16S, and 16D walkers in a range of middle to upper grades at even mid-sized coin shows, and could pick and choose. I rarely see any of these now, except at the larger shows, and prices are much higher.
I found images of my coin on line from an old Heritage sale, which are too large to post. This is a MS 63, EX: Pryor Collection. Here are HLRC's images :
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Grades just posted boys and girls on the three 1905-P's I submitted:
What I submitted previously resided in the following holders:
1905-P PCGS AU50 1905-P PCGS XF40 1905-P raw
I pocket pieces the AU50 and the raw and broke out the XF40. Yes I got them truviewed but haven't received the images yet.
Here are the grades.
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade 1 1 12847125 6501 1905 50C US XF45 1 2 12847126 6501 1905 50C US Altered Surface 1 3 12847127 6501 1905 50C US Altered Surface
YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!!
I'm assuming it was the XF40 that I really thought was XF43ish and had the best look of the bunch that made the coveted XF45 grade. The others don't have altered surfaces unless they call normal wera in the pocket Altered Surfaces.
Now I need to get that letter from Q. David Bowers. Previously, some of you have mentioned that you thought it would be neat for PCGS to do something in the Registry. If you folks want to, maybe an email campaign to BJ Searls to have this set listed as one of the top 20 "New" sets. It's about the only Registry Award that fits. I haven't displayed these coins at a show but that will be forthcoming.
I'm in Seattle right now making an offer on a home for when we transfer back out in June. This has me more excited then the new house though.
Congratulations!! Isn't that a now complete XF45 set Craig? Wow, what a feat. Whoooo, I bet you are glad to have finished that one up. If I were you, I might want to show it off for a few months, sell the coins then start on something challenging. You know, to keep collecting fresh!
<< <i>Walkerguy21D, Take a look at any WLH key date Pop like the 1921-d for example, then look at the commonest R-1 Barber half Pop.
You'll see that after 20 years of PCGS having certified Barber Halves this series is quite scarcer. >>
How can I argue with that, Broadstruck, or why would I? That's like betting it will be warmer in FL tomorrow than OH, after living in both states......But, more importantly, what does have to do with the points I was trying to make in my post? Newbarber guy is concerned that higher prices for middle and upper circ grade Barber halves may make them become "drastically more plentiful", hence decreases prices in the long run - my point is they have never been nor will they become plentiful, only harder to find and more expensive.....and then supported that with my experience with early walkers. What are your thoughts on this?
CONGRATULATIONS Craig!!! Whew, what an achievement! Now that you've put it all together, I have a few holes in my collection...think you might let a few go to help a brother out?
Congrats on completing the set Craig. You have a unique set there and i doubt that anyone else has ever even attempted it, to near completion. You undoubtedly put a lot of time in searching for them all.
Hi Craig and congratulations on completing your set in this difficult grade! I was reading on the "04S Story" thread that this took you over 7 years of diligent searching....no doubt made easier in the 'internet age' which allowed searching coast to coast for coins. And still it took 7 years - these coins are genuinely rare at this grade level! I would venture that pre-internet this set would have been impossible to complete, as one could not have enough contacts or travel to enough shows to find all the coins. Anyway, what, in your opinion are toughest to find? I'll assume the 05P is a given, since it was your last one Thanks in advance.
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I also wanted to thank "dogwood" for answering my BST search and selling me his spare copy of David Lawrence's Guide to Barber Dimes!
1. Thaine Price, Akers. This catalog brings forth great discussions of the coins being auctioned, terrific discussions about strike and rarity and a wealth of knowledge from a premier and well-healed dealer in US Gold and a huge fan of barber halves. He has seen most of the best barber halves over the past 30 years or more and knows his stuff very well. From this catalog I deduced that my 04-S half unattributed must have been the Norweb Coin; it is, and now is attributed. Photographs are very well done and the auction contains massive information for its rather diminutive size. I know Steve Duckor shares my love of this catalog. The one book he would want to have if stranded on a desert island! I own the 94 and 12 from this sale.
2. Hugon, Heritage. This catalog has been aluded to above and has good photographs and decent write-ups about the coins, but little in the way of pedigrees. I have studied many of the coins, bought a number of the mint state halves, and I think a good number of these coins may have originated from Emery-Nichols, James Stack, and other auctions. Mostly Heritage doesn't do the additional research on this series to find matches to older important sales. Still, a nicely done catalog and visually very appealing. I own about 10 coins from this sale.
3. Eliasberg, Bowers and Merena. A great run of mint state barber halves, with illustrations of most of the best coins and decent discussions of the coins which were all raw at the time of auction. It is fun to track down the current slab grades on the coins and compare them to the written catalog descriptions. Coins originated mostly from the Clapp family that obtained the coins the year of issue directly from the mint. The unbelievable MS 68 micro O is from this sale and is still mistakenly listed on the NGC census where it was originally graded, but crossed over at PCGS. I feel fotunate to own two coins from this collection, the 04-O and 01-O.
4. Pryor. Bowers and Merena. An important catalog of a nearly complete mint state set of barber halves and with decent illustrations and descriptions. Many of the coins were conservatively graded at the sale, and many, particularly the s-mints, have upgraded a point since the sale. Dr. Duckor has a few of the coins from this sale including the best 93-S half, the first ever graded MS 65 now graded MS 66. I own the 96-S from this sale.
5. Queller. Stacks. A very extensive collection of half dollars with only a few of the barbers being illustrated. The pedigrees are listed and are outstanding in scope and mostly derive from previous Stack's auctions and some direct sales. The great majority were sold raw and most graded reasonably when sent for grading. The micro O from this sale became MS 67, second only to the Eliasberg coin.
6. Emery-Nichols. Bowers and Merena. All raw, all nice coins, most straight from the mint in the year of issue. Photos are limited in size and are black and white. Descriptions are rather brief. Many outstanding coins from this sale are now among the top-graded PCGS coins. I own the 04-O from this collection and perhaps others, currently unattributed. It is difficult from brief descriptions and small black and white photographs to match coins, especially if someone dipped them.
7. Norweb. Bowers and Merena. Another old-time collection with catalog layout similar to Emery-Nichols. I have the 04-S from this collection.
8. James Stack. Stacks. Coins from this collection are some of the top-graded among the rarest coins in the barber series. The catalog is small, photos small and descriptions short to non-existent. None of my coins derive from this set to my knowledge.
9. Mamiye. Bowers and Merena. Complete set with decent descriptions and illustrations, but many of the coins were in the MS 63-64 range and not as exciting as some of the others listed above.
I have just done all of this at one setting without any notes or catalogs in front of me, so I could well be missing some important auction catalogs. I have a number of others such as Robison (Stack's), Southwest Collection (Heritage), Richmond (David Lawrence), and Northbay (Stack's).
One question if I may?
Was the Mamiye the B&M 1998 Charles Mamiye "Boys Town Sale" which also had record setting Standing Liberty Quarters
I believe that is true about the Charles Mamiye catalog, but I'll have to check when I get home.
As per your list I just searched out the catalogs I am missing and have located all of them w/ prices realized.
Bowers + Merena Mar 5-7, 1998 Boys Town, Charles Mamiye
Steve Ivy Dec 10-12, 1976 Southwest
Stack's Mar 15-16, 1995 James Stack
Bowers + Merena Jan 25, 1996 Pryor Halves
Bowers + Merena Nov 12-13, 1984 Emery & Nichols
Stack's Feb 10-13, 1982 Robison
Could you kindly confirm if the Robison Sale was in 1979 or 1982, and is the Southwest Collection dating back to Steve Ivy?
Also it looks like the Emery-Nichols set was finished prior to 1929 even though not auctioned for another 55 years?
Many thanks in advance!
I think the dates and catalogs you have are all right-on, except the Southwest Collection I referred to was the very recent set sold by Heritage at Long Beach. Looks like the Boys Town/Charles Mamiye is the correct catalog, too.
As regards to how collectors got uncirculated or even proof coins from the mint, I don't really know. Most were probably ordered by mail. Not everyone collected the branch mint coins early on, but Easterners may have been able to pick up contemporary coins in Philadelphia. Many of the early collectors wanted the best strike and look so they had proof specimens for the P-mints.
Sorry if all this dialogue is without pics.
<< <i>I also wanted to thank "dogwood" for answering my BST search and selling me his spare copy of David Lawrence's Guide to Barber Dimes! >>
For the life of me, that's one David Lawrence book that I just can't find!
DrPete,
Great list of catalogs......thanks!
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Thanks for sharing. I'm relatively new to Barber halve collecting and I'm consistently amazed at the wealth of knowledge on Barber halves that's recorded on this board. Appreciate your contributions as well as contributions from MFH, Barberman, Craig, Don, tombr, Cratylus, and the many other Barberphiles that contribute here. Just one question though...I have most of the Stack's catalogs from last year up to present... I find the writeups and photography interesting and plan on keeping the catalogs that list coins I've purchased...is it a good idea to hang on to all the other catalogs? Do they have any collectible or monetary value?
Regards,
Dave
On Ebay all the time selling as low as $12-13 when I thought I still owned one, but as Murphy's Law goes once you want a copy none to be found.
I use the following book more then the earlier Barber quarter and half book and recommend this highly! "The Complete Guide to Certified Barber Coinage" by David Lawrence & his son John Feigenbaum which was published 1999, is a 146 page softcover bound book which is a more updated version of all 3 DLRC books on Barber dime, quarter, and halves. This essential guide for any Barber coin collector offers historical information on the Barber coin series. Fully illustrated with black and white photos you will read analyses of dates and mintmarks, proof copies of Barber coins and scarcity and rarity ratings for each dime, quarter and half coin.
There's good money in auction catalogs and books especially once out of print, I'd keep them all for reference till your homes foundation can no longer hold the weight load... then sell them.
I sold a duplicate set of 3 John Jay Pittman - Akers Hardbound Catalogs on Ebay 2 years ago starting .99c with no reserve, the final closing bid was $683.00 as I recall.
As while you where sleeping I purchased another tentative candidate for ("OUR") your #1 set?
If not it’s going in the "Broadstruck’s Sloppy Second’s" AU58 Set!
I'll image it once I get it...
Broadstruck - You must lay awake at night looking for coins in AU 58 that are missing from my set.
I'll look forward to seeing your images of the 1899-S. Yes, that's a date I could use in 58 as I have
an AU 55 now. [ Sorry - no images of it however. ]
"Our Sets" - please send your half of the purchase price.
I can accept Pay Pal or Bank Wire direct deposit.
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DrPete - Thanks for the auction catalog listings. I have a few of them, but not all.
I know that alot of major shows have catalogs available from booksellers. Also, I believe
there's a website offering all old auction catalogs.
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Received the 1898-S half today in ANACS 58 - its a stunning coin - soon to be sent to PCGS for Cross Over.
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Posted this one a while back, a 25c in 64
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<< <i>Broadstruck - You must lay awake at night looking for coins in AU 58 that are missing from my set.
MFH, What can I say... Sometimes Insomnia Pays Off?
Obviously it does pay off -
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<< <i>When coins were ordered directly from the mint, were they ordered as single coins or rolls? Did the mint hand-select early strikes, and/or select specimens for collectors? I am interested in how the US Mint handled requests for uncirculated coins back then. Thanks in advance for replies. >>
The one person who could have answered that question is no longer with us, Louis Elisaberg;
he purchased the Clapp collection in its entirity. Mr. Clapp purchased his coins directly from the
US Mint. All of those coins were in Superb Gem condition. I think the US Mint sold off new issues
individually - and not in rolls. Although I am sure you could have ordered rolls from national banks.
Good question though and very thought provoking.
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Newbarberguy,
I couldn't help but notice that you've added a few NEWPS: 04-S, 08-S and 09-O all in PCGS 45.
When can we see them ?
And - did anyone see the post that Tyler added to the Thread on 1904-S halves ? When did you
buy those two coins, Tyler ? Both are amazing.
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<< <i>Why is the 1903-P Barber Half still such a hot potato, and when did the 1906-D Barber Half become tough
Years of searching intently will give you your answer. I have yet to locate an AU 1903-P in anything
higher than the ex: NGC 55 - now PCGS 53 in my collection. I added a nice PCGS MS 63 - EX: Pryor Collection
which I picked up from HLRC while I was at FUN. I'd jump at an AU 58 if one became available.
Same thing with the "common" 1906-D - very few available - don't remember the POP's this second - but
I was locked into an AU 55 until I located an ANACS 61 and crossed it as an AU 58.
I'm still searching for an 1897-S in 58 - Zero POP at PCGS - but NGC has a couple in their POP's.
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And looking at the 03-P it shares the same POP AU55 and up as some R3 Barbers... but I guess there's none to be found?
Speaking of 1897-S's I just noticed my Error is the web poster-child when you look on CoinFacts to see what a Broadstruck Mint Error is.
Neat I should bring it home from the SDB and take it out to dinner... or something?
BROADSTRIKES
<< <i> Speaking of 1897-S's I just noticed my Error is the web poster-child when you look on CoinFacts to see what a Broadstruck Mint Error is.
Neat I should bring it home from the SDB and take it out to dinner... or something?
BROADSTRIKES >>
Or send it to visit its cousins in Florida for "Spring Break".
I still can't believe you have "my" coin.
Very neat coin - wish it were mine again .
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I just picked up this 1908-D half for my type set from J.J. Teaparty. As stated earlier, their pictures are pretty bad.
I live in Denver, so this coin has finally come home after 100 years. I know it was just in Boston and it had to be in California when PCGS slabbed it - so it has traveled from coast to coast. Who knows where else it may have traveled in the last 100 years?
Here's J.J. Teaparty's picture for comparison:
A few of my fellow Barberites know I "fell asleep at the wheel" in a manner of speaking last Sunday evening.
My computer's clock had reversed itself to the old time and I was 55 minutes too late to sucessfully bid on the Eagle Harbor Collection [ Ken Larson's collection of Barber Halves ] 1893-O in PCGS.
Not to be outdone by this misfortune, I contacted the winner and we have agreed to a price on this coin.
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<< <i>Newbarberguy, I couldn't help but notice that you've added a few NEWPS: 04-S, 08-S and 09-O all in PCGS 45. When can we see them ? >>
MFH, despite my best efforts to limit my purchases for now, I just couldn't pass these up...pics available soon (maybe)!
Interesting discussion on the 1904-S thread on key dates...agree with Tyler that the 08-P--though listed as a fairly common date--is elusive in XF-45. Although if you look at the BCCS rarity ratings, the 08-P is R4. Of all the XF-45's I've been able to "capture", I think the 01-S has the best strike, luster, and eye appeal...don't know about the 02-S because I haven't found it yet. The 93, 96 and 97 series are always difficult but other dates like the 11-D, 12-S, 13-S, 05-P, 05-O are little boogers at XF-45. Thanks to Craig, I zeroed in on his recommended list of key dates and was able to acquire some nice halves when I first started collecting last year. The buyer market for mid-grade Barber halves seems to be growing and prices seem to be going up for most mid-grades...I just hope the population of mid-grades doesn't drastically increase (because of the demand) to depress current prices. My two cents...
<< <i>The buyer market for mid-grade Barber halves seems to be growing and prices seem to be going up for most mid-grades...I just hope the population of mid-grades doesn't drastically increase (because of the demand) to depress current prices. >>
Though I have limited experience in the series, I would tend to agree with the first part, that the buyer market is growing.
I do not think though, that there will be a drastic increase in the availability of coins in these grades, because I don't think that many exist to begin with. I base this on some articles and things I've read that these were tough to come by even back in the 60's and 70's, and sets in this grade range difficult to assemble. With a growing demand, I think we'll see higher prices and less availability. I would also base this assertion on what I've seen with early date walkers. I used to be able to find 17S obv and 16S, and 16D walkers in a range of middle to upper grades at even mid-sized coin shows, and could pick and choose. I rarely see any of these now, except at the larger shows, and prices are much higher.
You'll see that after 20 years of PCGS having certified Barber Halves this series is quite scarcer.
Broadstruck - Lady Liberty's cousins miss her and they've prepared
a special place for her.
Spring Break
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Broadstruck :
No - more like Barber Collector gone wild.
You'll be able to visit me at "Shady Pines" soon enough.
Don't think I'm ready for "The Home" just yet. I'm still a
few years away from retirement.
Then again, you've got sixteen years to go before
the Little One is out of High School - then four years
plus - till he's out of college.
I may be the one visiting you at "The Home" and not
the other way around.
Thank you for resizing this image for me - of my
newest - sounds redundant doesn't it ? - Half
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Broadstruck,
You also mentioned the 1903-P -
I found images of my coin on line from an old
Heritage sale, which are too large to post.
This is a MS 63, EX: Pryor Collection.
Here are HLRC's images :
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I like that 03-P ex-Pryor and wasn't aware Richard collected coins... you better check that slab for a eh Crack
What I submitted previously resided in the following holders:
1905-P PCGS AU50
1905-P PCGS XF40
1905-P raw
I pocket pieces the AU50 and the raw and broke out the XF40. Yes I got them truviewed but haven't received the images yet.
Here are the grades.
Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 12847125 6501 1905 50C US XF45
1 2 12847126 6501 1905 50C US Altered Surface
1 3 12847127 6501 1905 50C US Altered Surface
YEAH BABY YEAH!!!!!
I'm assuming it was the XF40 that I really thought was XF43ish and had the best look of the bunch that made the coveted XF45 grade. The others don't have altered surfaces unless they call normal wera in the pocket Altered Surfaces.
Now I need to get that letter from Q. David Bowers. Previously, some of you have mentioned that you thought it would be neat for PCGS to do something in the Registry. If you folks want to, maybe an email campaign to BJ Searls to have this set listed as one of the top 20 "New" sets. It's about the only Registry Award that fits. I haven't displayed these coins at a show but that will be forthcoming.
I'm in Seattle right now making an offer on a home for when we transfer back out in June. This has me more excited then the new house though.
Looking for Denmark 1874 20-Kroner. Please offer.
Way to go!
Tyler
https://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/collectors-showcase/world-coins/one-coin-per-year-1600-2017/2422
Connor Numismatics Website
I look forward to see the whole set in True View
<< <i>Walkerguy21D, Take a look at any WLH key date Pop like the 1921-d for example, then look at the commonest R-1 Barber half Pop.
You'll see that after 20 years of PCGS having certified Barber Halves this series is quite scarcer. >>
How can I argue with that, Broadstruck, or why would I? That's like betting it will be warmer in FL tomorrow than OH, after living in both states......But, more importantly, what does have to do with the points I was trying to make in my post? Newbarber guy is concerned that higher prices for middle and upper circ grade Barber halves may make them become "drastically more plentiful", hence decreases prices in the long run - my point is they have never been nor will they become plentiful, only harder to find and more expensive.....and then supported that with my experience with early walkers. What are your thoughts on this?
Walkerguy21D, I'm with you 100%, I haven't seen a Barber Half in a B&M higher then VF in over 20 years
<< <i>Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade 1 1 12847125 6501 1905 50C US XF45 >>
CONGRATULATIONS Craig!!!
Let the party begin!
Congratulations Craig.
I'm very interested as to which was graded XF 45 - the "pocket piece"
which was an EX: PCGS AU 50 - the PCGS 40 - or the other Raw coin.
Looking forward to the Tru View images as well.
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Woohoo!!! What an accomplishment!!! A BIG congratulations are in order!!!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Those Quarters are calling your name.......
Much genuflection on behalf of your accomplishment.
(That promotion ain't shabby either
<< <i>my point is they have never been nor will they become plentiful, only harder to find and more expensive
Walkerguy21D, I'm with you 100%, I haven't seen a Barber Half in a B&M higher then VF in over 20 years
Sonnyboy, when I was your age they were giving VF 20's out in change...
Seriously though, you could still find a Barber Half in rolls back in the early 1960's,
not often, but they were found every so often.
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<< <i>Sonnyboy, when I was your age they were giving VF 20's out in change...
Seriously though, you could still find a Barber Half in rolls back in the early 1960's,
not often, but they were found every so often. >>
Ah, the good ol' days! If only that happened when I was alive!
I was reading on the "04S Story" thread that this took you over 7 years of diligent searching....no doubt made easier in the 'internet age' which allowed searching coast to coast for coins. And still it took 7 years - these coins are genuinely rare at this grade level! I would venture that pre-internet this set would have been impossible to complete, as one could not have enough contacts or travel to enough shows to find all the coins.
Anyway, what, in your opinion are toughest to find? I'll assume the 05P is a given, since it was your last one
Thanks in advance.