Yes. Ironically, after waiting months, I had two more 500+ card subs pop today. One really nice and another with literally dozens of 5s from the same cards. It gets frustrating as I HATE grading 74s and 76s as it is easy to get killed when almost every 8 loses money and many 9s are break even, so I am pretty conservative on what I do send from those issues... seeing the grades below... just wow. I use well magnified light and grade 10k cards a year for perspective.
320 1 22036497 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 416 WHITE SOX TEAM Card 321 1 22036498 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 452 GENE HISER Card 322 1 22036499 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1974 TOPPS 460 BOOG POWELL Card 322 2 22036500 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 460 BOOG POWELL Card 323 1 22036501 MINT 9 1974 TOPPS 470 A.L. PLAYOFFS Card 324 1 22036502 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 472 WORLD SERIES GAME 1 Card 325 1 22036503 MINT 9 1974 TOPPS 477 WORLD SERIES GAME 6 Card 326 1 22036504 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 500 LEE MAY Card 327 1 22036505 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 519 BILL SHARP Card 328 1 22036506 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 520 TIM McCARVER Card 329 1 22036507 MINT 9 1974 TOPPS 522 J.R. RICHARD Card 330 1 22036508 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 541 INDIANS TEAM Card 331 1 22036509 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 542 RICH GOSSAGE Card 332 1 22036510 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 558 BILL FAHEY Card 333 1 22036511 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 571 RICH HAND Card 334 1 22036512 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 572 ENZO HERNANDEZ Card 335 1 22036513 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 587 LARRY CHRISTENSON Card 336 1 22036514 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 588 HAL LANIER Card 337 1 22036515 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 591 SONNY JACKSON Card 338 1 22036516 NEAR MINT 7 1974 TOPPS 602 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card 338 2 22036517 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 602 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card 339 1 22036518 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 615 JOHNNY JETER Card 340 1 22036519 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 647 JUAN BENIQUEZ Card 341 1 22036520 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 653 BOB STINSON Card 342 1 22036521 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1974 TOPPS 656 ADRIAN GARRETT Card 343 1 22036522 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 657 JIM SHELLENBACK Card
Ouch that really sucks! These cards are mostly carbon copies of each other. I got 9s on my '74 White Sox team cards that came from Bob. I bet if I resub the Concepcions, they all get 9s (or maybe 5s if I get the wrong grader). The main thing I've learned to watch out for, particularly with the '76s, is the ink spots that repeatedly appear on some cards like the Balez. That will take an otherwise mint or gem card and turn it into a 7. However, 5s are ridiculous. I didn't find any wrinkles or creases in the hundreds of cards I bought from Bob.
No, they are all sharp. Hell, I have roughly 150 of the white sox and every one I have ever subbed is a 9, probably because of the big yellow fish eye. I only threw one in as I was out of them. Funny thing is the order that went in six weeks later that popped yesterday had 3 for 3 as 9s.
I know exactly what you are saying on the ink, lots and lots of his 76s have it. Cardinals teams come to mind. gem otherwise.
Ironically, as I am going through that order, the same grader gave me: GEM MINT 10 1968 TOPPS 151 WORLD SERIES GAME 1 BROCK SOCKS 4-HITS IN... MINT 9 1970 TOPPS 453 ROD CAREW GEM MINT 10 1968 TOPPS 577 FRED TALBOT GEM MINT 10 1972 TOPPS 259 SPARKY LYLE MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 160 JIM PALMER MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 471 TY COBB ALL-TIME HIT LEADER MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 561 JIM GEDDES MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 606 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS MATTHEWS/PACIOREK/ROQUE
I was lucky to find a seller with a large inventory of pre grading and pre ebay raw. Pricey, but I have bought 11 73s sets alone from them with some nice hits. Over 120 9s on cards that popped this week alone.
The Geddes was sold the day the grades popped ironically.
Still tracking the growth in POP of 10s from this set. Check out 341 Gehrig ATG. September of 2012 the POP of 10s was 5 and today it sits at 15. That's a 300% increase in the POP of 10s for a very popular card and subset of the 1976 set. Cobb and Williams saw about a doubling of their POP of 10s in the same time period.
These increases in the POPs go way beyond subjective grading impacts. Subjective grading will result in a modest bump in POPs over time but not radical increases. Somewhere, somehow, more supply is either being found (how after all these years I still don't understand) or created (cut sheets, etc.).
More importantly, if collectors start to project future POPs based on recent growth, what will the impact be on the market for these high grade cards? Not good I would suspect.
Thoughts?
Looking for 70s Topps baseball & football PSA 9s and 10s
1976 is a very popular year and I would think there could be a more collectors trying to make graded sets in the future. I don't think 1976 Topps is as popular as the year of 1975, but all it takes is other collectors making high grade sets from this year to make the pricing go up. Time will tell though.
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I think there is still a lot of raw 76 out there. I still believe a lot of old timers do not like grading and are holding raw, whether it be complete sets or other form.
The Gehrig's were mine. I submitted 30-40 and received a ton of 9's. I was going to stop sending them in. Then bang I sent in a dozen more and I received a bunch of 10's. Same with the others, most of the POP increase came from me.
Sorry gaspipe - I was refering to 1954's list. Anyway, what's the forum's opinion/experience on fish eyes and other ink spots on '76 cards with a 10 grade? Check out the 231 Tom House PSA 10 currently on ebay now as an example - not the first 10 I've seen with the surface ink circles. What's the consensus out there on these? We always hear alot about corners and centering but it seems surface spotting is more subjective to collectors and graders.
Looking for 70s Topps baseball & football PSA 9s and 10s
Well done! Also did you guys see the new '76 Eck PSA 10 and the first Briggs PSA 10 that just hit Ebay? Like we have been discussing, these 10 POPs just keep climbing and you are starting to see impossible 10s from impossible cards hitting the market. Just a matter of time before we see a Brett 10. I've officially started to extrapolate POPs when thinking about acquiring a 10 from this set. I don't look at the current POP - I look to where it's going to end up at in one year or so. That approach has made me much more conservative of late and I've lost out or sat out on some long sought after cards in grade 10 from the set. But in many of these cases, if not most of them, I've seen another 10 of the same card come right down the pike in a short period of time.
I'm not as familiar with what's going on with the 10s from other Topps years around the 1976 set, but from what I see generally the same thing is happening to the 72, 74 baseball and the 74, 75, 76 football Topps sets.
I am now firmly in the camp that most of these new 10s are old 9s that PSA is reconsidering under new (or subjective) grading standards. In today's world and with the market being what it is, no one is sitting on a mint Eck from 76 and not getting it in a slab - it was likely an "old" 9 that got that lucky bump to a "new" 10.
Looking for 70s Topps baseball & football PSA 9s and 10s
No I don't think so. I came across several thousand vending stars from 74, 75 and 76. The Gehrig 10's were mine, most of the Morgan 10's and several others. After about 20 Stargell 9's I got 1 and 1 only in 10. I don't think I will get another in 10. I also got 5-1974 #80 Seaver's in 10 as well as 17 in 9.
There's only way for pops to go--and that is up. The bigger the hammer prices go on PSA 10 cards, the more 10s you're going to see come to market, either via grading or reviews.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>There's only way for pops to go--and that is up. The bigger the hammer prices go on PSA 10 cards, the more 10s you're going to see come to market, either via grading or reviews. >>
Yah but the tough thing is whether to submit a card that's worth $3 or $4 if it gets a 9 and $200 if it gets a $10. Feast or famine! I have several that fall into this category.
<< <i>There's only way for pops to go--and that is up. The bigger the hammer prices go on PSA 10 cards, the more 10s you're going to see come to market, either via grading or reviews. >>
Yah but the tough thing is whether to submit a card that's worth $3 or $4 if it gets a 9 and $200 if it gets a $10. Feast or famine! I have several that fall into this category. >>
No doubt new vending finds will help bring new 10s and higher POPs. Gaspipe's Gehrigs are a great example. That should be assumed moving forward.
But we should not ignore the issue of grading subjectivity and standards dropping. One thing that really gives me concern is that if PSA's fee system and revenue stream are based off of assigned grade. From what I can see the rates PSA receives might be determined by the assessed values/grade. PSA in the end could be charging more or receiving more for a higher grade. Do you guys see this?
The thought of a third-party objective grader receiving more for assigning higher grades would be a flat out conflict of interest. Think about the college board charging more for higher SAT scores - the temptation would be to make the test easier to inflate scores and thus revenues. Or think of a credit rating agency like Moody's charging a company more for a higher investment rating - a creditor would worry the rating was inflated so the agency could make more money.
This concern above is technically different from the concern of high volume (and high fee payer) submitters getting more lenient grading standards. But that is also a potential conflict.
Looking for 70s Topps baseball & football PSA 9s and 10s
I finally completed the 1976 Topps Cincinnati Reds set I've been working on. I wanted each card in 9 or 10. Weirdly enough, the one that took me two years to find was Doug Flynn. By coincidence, two 9s came up on eBay a week or so apart. By this point, 2/3 of mine are 10s. Fun set of a great team.
Looks like the one 4sharp had that stingray linked is the same one sold for 611. Looks like he tried to get 3400 for it but went auction style and let it ride. Someone took a bath on it..
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320 1 22036497 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 416 WHITE SOX TEAM Card
321 1 22036498 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 452 GENE HISER Card
322 1 22036499 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1974 TOPPS 460 BOOG POWELL Card
322 2 22036500 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 460 BOOG POWELL Card
323 1 22036501 MINT 9 1974 TOPPS 470 A.L. PLAYOFFS Card
324 1 22036502 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 472 WORLD SERIES GAME 1 Card
325 1 22036503 MINT 9 1974 TOPPS 477 WORLD SERIES GAME 6 Card
326 1 22036504 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 500 LEE MAY Card
327 1 22036505 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 519 BILL SHARP Card
328 1 22036506 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 520 TIM McCARVER Card
329 1 22036507 MINT 9 1974 TOPPS 522 J.R. RICHARD Card
330 1 22036508 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 541 INDIANS TEAM Card
331 1 22036509 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 542 RICH GOSSAGE Card
332 1 22036510 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 558 BILL FAHEY Card
333 1 22036511 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 571 RICH HAND Card
334 1 22036512 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 572 ENZO HERNANDEZ Card
335 1 22036513 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1974 TOPPS 587 LARRY CHRISTENSON Card
336 1 22036514 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 588 HAL LANIER Card
337 1 22036515 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 591 SONNY JACKSON Card
338 1 22036516 NEAR MINT 7 1974 TOPPS 602 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
338 2 22036517 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 602 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
339 1 22036518 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 615 JOHNNY JETER Card
340 1 22036519 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 647 JUAN BENIQUEZ Card
341 1 22036520 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 653 BOB STINSON Card
342 1 22036521 EXCELLENT+ 5.5 1974 TOPPS 656 ADRIAN GARRETT Card
343 1 22036522 EXCELLENT 5 1974 TOPPS 657 JIM SHELLENBACK Card
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I know exactly what you are saying on the ink, lots and lots of his 76s have it. Cardinals teams come to mind. gem otherwise.
Ironically, as I am going through that order, the same grader gave me:
GEM MINT 10 1968 TOPPS 151 WORLD SERIES GAME 1 BROCK SOCKS 4-HITS IN...
MINT 9 1970 TOPPS 453 ROD CAREW
GEM MINT 10 1968 TOPPS 577 FRED TALBOT
GEM MINT 10 1972 TOPPS 259 SPARKY LYLE
MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 160 JIM PALMER
MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 471 TY COBB ALL-TIME HIT LEADER
MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 561 JIM GEDDES
MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 606 ROOKIE OUTFIELDERS MATTHEWS/PACIOREK/ROQUE
Weird.. but at least there were a few savers.
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The Geddes was sold the day the grades popped ironically.
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These increases in the POPs go way beyond subjective grading impacts. Subjective grading will result in a modest bump in POPs over time but not radical increases. Somewhere, somehow, more supply is either being found (how after all these years I still don't understand) or created (cut sheets, etc.).
More importantly, if collectors start to project future POPs based on recent growth, what will the impact be on the market for these high grade cards? Not good I would suspect.
Thoughts?
MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 643 CHECKLIST 529-660 Card
85 1 22376737 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 638 DOYLE ALEXANDER Card
86 1 22376738 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 636 JOE DECKER Card
87 1 22376739 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 631 BRAVES TEAM Card
88 1 22376740 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 MC 1976 TOPPS 620 AL OLIVER Card
89 1 22376741 GEM MINT 10 1976 TOPPS 597 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
90 1 22376742 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 TOPPS 596 ROOKIE INFIELDERS Card
91 1 22376743 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1976 TOPPS 595 ROOKIE PITCHERS Card
92 1 22376744 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1976 TOPPS 574 DON KESSINGER Card
93 1 22376745 NEAR MINT 7 1976 TOPPS 564 KURT BEVACQUA BUBBLE GUM BLOWING CHAMP Card
94 1 22376746 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 559 CLYDE WRIGHT Card
95 1 22376747 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 544 PEPE FRIAS Card
96 1 22376748 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 543 WAYNE TWITCHELL Card
97 1 22376749 GEM MINT 10 1976 TOPPS 538 PAT DARCY Card
98 1 22376750 MINT 9 MC 1976 TOPPS 533 LEE RICHARD Card
99 1 22376751 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 TOPPS 532 MILT MAY Card
100 1 22376752 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 529 DERON JOHNSON Card
101 1 22376753 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 528 DOCK ELLIS Card
102 1 22376754 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 519 STEVE BRYE Card
103 1 22376755 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 502 TIM McCARVER Card
104 1 22376756 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 503 ELLIOTT MADDOX Card
105 1 22376757 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 479 BOBBY MITCHELL Card
106 1 22376758 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 458 EARL WILLIAMS Card
107 1 22376759 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 450 JIM PALMER Card
108 1 22376760 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 439 RICK RHODEN Card
109 1 22376761 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 431 DICK RUTHVEN Card
110 1 22376762 GEM MINT 10 1976 TOPPS 426 BOB FORSCH Card
111 1 22376763 GEM MINT 10 1976 TOPPS 418 JOSE MORALES Card
112 1 22376764 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 384 PHILLIES TEAM Card
113 1 22376765 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 378 STEVE STONE Card
114 1 22376766 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 371 ELLIE HENDRICKS Card
115 1 22376767 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 367 BRUCE MILLER Card
116 1 22376768 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 351 RANDY HUNDLEY Card
117 1 22376769 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 TOPPS 330 NOLAN RYAN Card
118 1 22376770 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 327 DAVE MOATES Card
119 1 22376771 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 291 KEN SANDERS Card
120 1 22376772 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 279 ROY HOWELL Card
121 1 22376773 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 TOPPS 240 PETE ROSE Card
122 1 22376774 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 213 DAVE HEAVERLO Card
123 1 22376775 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 216 EXPOS TEAM Card
124 1 22376776 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 210 LEE MAY Card
125 1 22376777 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 207 ANDY HASSLER Card
126 1 22376778 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 191 NL BATTING LEADERS MADLOCK/SIMMONS/SANGUILN. Card
127 1 22376779 GEM MINT 10 1976 TOPPS 190 JON MATLACK Card
128 1 22376780 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 189 CLAUDELL WASHINGTON Card
129 1 22376781 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 186 TOM WALKER Card
130 1 22376782 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 182 HARRY RASMUSSEN Card
131 1 22376783 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 181 WILLIE MONTANEZ Card
132 1 22376784 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 170 RICK WISE Card
133 1 22376785 GEM MINT 10 1976 TOPPS 171 GREG GROSS Card
134 1 22376786 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 165 GENE TENACE Card
135 1 22376787 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 159 JERRY TERRELL Card
136 1 22376788 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 141 LARRY PARRISH Card
137 1 22376789 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 114 JAY JOHNSTONE Card
138 1 22376790 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 TOPPS 112 KENT TEKULVE Card
139 1 22376791 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1976 TOPPS 108 DON KIRKWOOD Card
140 1 22376792 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 103 BIFF POCOROBA Card
141 1 22376793 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 101 PETE La CCK Card
142 1 22376794 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 96 DOUG BIRD Card
143 1 22376795 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 94 JIM DWYER Card
144 1 22376796 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 93 MIKE PHILLIPS Card
145 1 22376797 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 TOPPS 91 TOM HUTTON Card
146 1 22376798 GEM MINT 10 1976 TOPPS 74 OSCAR GAMBLE Card
147 1 22376799 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 72 HAL McRAE Card
148 1 22376800 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 60 JERRY REUSS Card
149 1 22376801 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 54 DAVE RADER Card
150 1 22376802 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 52 DAVE CHALK Card
151 1 22376803 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 48 DAVE CONCEPCION Card
152 1 22376804 MINT 9 1976 TOPPS 29 RICK BURLESON
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Well done! Also did you guys see the new '76 Eck PSA 10 and the first Briggs PSA 10 that just hit Ebay? Like we have been discussing, these 10 POPs just keep climbing and you are starting to see impossible 10s from impossible cards hitting the market. Just a matter of time before we see a Brett 10. I've officially started to extrapolate POPs when thinking about acquiring a 10 from this set. I don't look at the current POP - I look to where it's going to end up at in one year or so. That approach has made me much more conservative of late and I've lost out or sat out on some long sought after cards in grade 10 from the set. But in many of these cases, if not most of them, I've seen another 10 of the same card come right down the pike in a short period of time.
I'm not as familiar with what's going on with the 10s from other Topps years around the 1976 set, but from what I see generally the same thing is happening to the 72, 74 baseball and the 74, 75, 76 football Topps sets.
I am now firmly in the camp that most of these new 10s are old 9s that PSA is reconsidering under new (or subjective) grading standards. In today's world and with the market being what it is, no one is sitting on a mint Eck from 76 and not getting it in a slab - it was likely an "old" 9 that got that lucky bump to a "new" 10.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>There's only way for pops to go--and that is up. The bigger the hammer prices go on PSA 10 cards, the more 10s you're going to see come to market, either via grading or reviews. >>
Yah but the tough thing is whether to submit a card that's worth $3 or $4 if it gets a 9 and $200 if it gets a $10. Feast or famine! I have several that fall into this category.
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<< <i>There's only way for pops to go--and that is up. The bigger the hammer prices go on PSA 10 cards, the more 10s you're going to see come to market, either via grading or reviews. >>
Yah but the tough thing is whether to submit a card that's worth $3 or $4 if it gets a 9 and $200 if it gets a $10. Feast or famine! I have several that fall into this category. >>
I have never received a 10. :-(
But we should not ignore the issue of grading subjectivity and standards dropping. One thing that really gives me concern is that if PSA's fee system and revenue stream are based off of assigned grade. From what I can see the rates PSA receives might be determined by the assessed values/grade. PSA in the end could be charging more or receiving more for a higher grade. Do you guys see this?
The thought of a third-party objective grader receiving more for assigning higher grades would be a flat out conflict of interest. Think about the college board charging more for higher SAT scores - the temptation would be to make the test easier to inflate scores and thus revenues. Or think of a credit rating agency like Moody's charging a company more for a higher investment rating - a creditor would worry the rating was inflated so the agency could make more money.
This concern above is technically different from the concern of high volume (and high fee payer) submitters getting more lenient grading standards. But that is also a potential conflict.
I have several hundred 9's that fall in that category as well. Ive pretty much stopped sending commons. Its just not worth the risk.
<< <i>Nice run of about 300 Psa 9s with some tough ones up for auction on Ebay currently. >>
$999 for a Rick Miller PSA 9??
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$5,048 for a PSA 10 #500 Reggie Jacksonon ebay yesterday!
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Crazy. I'm happy with my 9 for $5000 less (self submission).
One of my favorite cards and is very difficult to find centered with no tilt!
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