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An uninformed pawnbroker is a collectors best friend!!

MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
Went to a couple of coin shops today and found nothing! So I stopped by a small local pawn shop to see if they got any silver in. Looking around and they have nothing, but the pawn broker says he bought a year set and I can have it for $150. Well needless to say I jumped on it!! Here is the Walker and the Merc...

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It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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  • zennyzenny Posts: 1,549
    needless to say




    you suck


    ps. if you'd like to double your money quick, pm me. lol
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Your luck is better than mine has been with pawnbrokers. Most of these guys I run into about as friendly as a junkyard dog and about half as intelligent. Their response to a simple a question, “Do you have any coins for sale?” is to growl and act like I just shot their dog.

    They must be really doing well in their business if they can afford chase away cash paying customers.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭
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    If you want to TRIPLE your money, PM me!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Russ, NCNE
  • BikingnutBikingnut Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭
    Okay, I've never said this on here before, but














    YOU SUCK!!!


    Nice score.
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  • FatManFatMan Posts: 8,977
    Nice find MadOne.
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I'm gled I live by a modern marketmaker who pays very nice money for a set like this...
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have done some very careful and conservative calculations, but I am pretty sure you got your money's worth. image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭
    If that Walker cams at PCGS, (I don't think it will), and does 66 or better, it's a $10,000 coin. This is one case where the PCGS price guide is way low.

    Russ, NCNE
  • TrinkettsTrinketts Posts: 1,699
    Modern Crap image
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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    So double ask I sold the set for wasn't enough? I called a very well known coin dealer in NJ and they said it's modern crap and they would pay 25% back of bid. So I sold it to a local dealer.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • <<So double ask I sold the set for wasn't enough? I called a very well known coin dealer in NJ and they said it's modern crap and they would pay 25% back of bid. So I sold it to a local dealer. >>

    Good thing I know you better than that! Someone might actually believe you! Needless to say I'm paying more than ask for that Merc.
  • Holy #$%@.

    Those ares some extraordinary coins!!!
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    YOU SUCK!YOU SUCK!YOU SUCK!YOU SUCK!YOU SUCK!YOU SUCK!

    Oh, did I mention?................

    YOU SUCK!
  • I love the Walker too, but think it might be out of my range. image

    I'm looking for a 1939 Jeff with some frost on the devices, how does yours look? I'm paying retail+ for 1939, 1941 and 1942 T1 Jeffs with some cameo contrast because I am working on a set of pre 1950 Jeffs for my personal collection.
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,112 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice Walker.

    Looks like a 67CAM to me. If that coin doesn't hit CAM, then no Walker will.

    The dime is a little suspect on the CAM, but still nice.

    Way to go!!!image
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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,759 ✭✭✭✭
    Man, you REALLY suck!

    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • HTubbsHTubbs Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭
    Way cool!image
  • CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Your luck is better than mine has been with pawnbrokers. Most of these guys I run into about as friendly as a junkyard dog and about half as intelligent. Their response to a simple a question, “Do you have any coins for sale?” is to growl and act like I just shot their dog.

    They must be really doing well in their business if they can afford chase away cash paying customers. >>




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  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭
    Dear Mr.Mad
    First let me say You Suck
    And now let me say
    Nice find buddyimage


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  • I am not even going to degnify this thread with a response.............dam...too late...................

    what else is there to say but YOU SUCK.......that sums up the feelings of everyone on the forum at this point image
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭
    BTW, is this the same pawnbroker where you got the 1893-S for $8?

    Russ, NCNE
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,963 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never, ever seen that much cameo frost on a Walker.

    WOW!!
    When in doubt, don't.
  • GemineyeGemineye Posts: 5,374
    Nice pickup Marty......image
    ......Larry........image
  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭


    << <i>BTW, is this the same pawnbroker where you got the 1893-S for $8?

    Russ, NCNE >>



    That's exactly what I was wondering!

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • fcfc Posts: 12,788 ✭✭✭
    i have to admit, those two coins look very very sharp.

    i have no idea of the value, but they appear to be keepers.
  • You should have negotiated the set to $125.00, now that would have been a bargain image. Seriously, that was a great find.
  • StuartStuart Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Marty: That's a great buy and definitely earns you a big heartfelt Holiday YOU SUCK!! imageimage

    Stuart

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  • DHeathDHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
    Nice looking goodies there Bud. image
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  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,660 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Kudos and congratulations to you Marty on your new acquisition.

    This just serves to support the notion that "If you spend time looking for coins, you never know what you will find". Some people do not put in the time hunting for coins and thus miss out on opportunities like this.
  • Great fine MadMarty!
    Is the Walker going to NGC or PCGS?
  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154


    << <i>If you want to TRIPLE your money, PM me!!!!!!!!!!!! >>



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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's awful close to cameo, and the obv is strong. Did the pawn broker think this was a 1939 mint set? Any chance that the coin has been frosted as it looks almost too good...like something from the mint today.

    roadrunner
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  • sinin1sinin1 Posts: 7,500
    do you feel bad this set was obviously stolen ?



    any rightful owner of a 1939 proof set would know what it was
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,427 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That's awful close to cameo, and the obv is strong. Did the pawn broker think this was a 1939 mint set? Any chance that the coin has been frosted as it looks almost too good...like something from the mint today.

    roadrunner >>



    Yes, it's rare to see this much contrast frosting on a Walker and a Mercury dime. AND it's unusual for the coins to come in the same lot. The think the services will take on long hard look to make sure the frosting is real.

    AND before we wax too romantic about these coins, both have been dipped. These coins are of more interest to advanced collectors when they are original. The dime especially shows signs of it. As a result the PCGS grade won't go any higher than PR-66 for Walker IMO. The Dime might go as low as PR-64. But if they get a cameo, that would offset the dipping from a price perspective.
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  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    great deal Marty but I have bad vibes about the pawnbroker and where that coin came from. And whose missing it.
    Have a nice day
  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,305 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some of the best deals are flea markets, pawn brokers, garage sales and other non-
    traditional venues. If they ask too much you can actually counteroffer and they won't
    be insulted if it's a fraction of their asking price. If they ask too little you can just pay it.
    Tempus fugit.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,793 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>great deal Marty but I have bad vibes about the pawnbroker and where that coin came from. And whose missing it. >>






    image do tell
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭


    << <i>AND before we wax too romantic about these coins, both have been dipped. >>



    Of course they have. The vast majority of these are hazed over crap. You "advanced" collectors can have that "original", (that's a crackup since they sure as hell didn't look like that when first minted), look. I'll take ones like this that look fresh from the die.

    Russ, NCNE
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>BTW, is this the same pawnbroker where you got the 1893-S for $8?

    Russ, NCNE >>




    yep
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< BTW, is this the same pawnbroker where you got the 1893-S for $8?

    Russ, NCNE >>

    yep >>



    Bwuahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Russ, NCNE
  • Not to rain on the parade, I would have purchased the coins as well.

    But are there free lunches in coins? In other words if a deal seems to good to be true... I think what another poster alluded to is the coins may have been hot. And if they are not then....

    ...in the past we have talked about dealers ripping buyers but is this a case in reverse? And I reiterate I would have done the same by buying and thinking about it later.
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    One very saving grace is that there are no hairlines on the walker. It will be going to PCGS, the dime will go to NGC (it has haze).
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭


    << <i>But are there free lunches in coins? >>



    Free lunches? No. Rewards for those who bust their ass hunting and seeking opportunity? Hell yes.



    << <i>...in the past we have talked about dealers ripping buyers but is this a case in reverse? >>



    Yes, Marty hosed this dumbass pawnbroker - twice! He's my hero!!!!!

    Russ, NCNE
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,427 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have an original 1942 Proof half in my collection that is in an NGC PR-67 holder. Very little haze, just color, and as such that's why it got the PR-67. My efforts to take a photo of the coin that shows its true beauty have not been fruitful.

    imageimage
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  • nice buy, mm. is the nickel a variety 1 or 2?
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭


    << <i>nice buy, mm. is the nickel a variety 1 or 2? >>



    Difference???
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • MM, you suck! image
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    Ask me no questions, I'll tell you no lies.
  • RussRuss Posts: 48,515 ✭✭✭


    << <i><< nice buy, mm. is the nickel a variety 1 or 2? >>

    Difference??? >>



    He might be referring to the Rev of 1940 variety.

    Russ, NCNE
  • 09sVDB09sVDB Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭
    How was it said way back when: "Sanderson to Orr, SCORE!"
  • VERY nice score!image

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