Jonny Damon to the Yankees.......
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Injury plagued
lower averaae
few homers
and every year
crappy arm?
theo gone
pedro gone
damon gone now
nomar gone
and manny wants out?
weird.
I hope Manny stays
Pedro is "meh"
I liked Nomar
If he was so important to the team, he would have been re-signed.
The Red Sox will be fine...just like the yankees...both will win 90+ games this year.
<< <i>Was it me or Damon last year
Injury plagued
lower averaae
few homers
and every year
crappy arm? >>
True. You could almost see Damon breaking down last year, but I admired his courage to play hard through the injuries. Again, money is not an issue for the Yankees, so to give the declining Damon all that money for perhaps a good season or two is no big deal. But - it wasn't a very intelligent signing.
Damon will go from being an idol in Boston, to another overpaid and overrated member of the dysfunctional Yankees, and I am sad to see it happen to him. I wish him well, however...that is, until Opening Day.
What will he look like w/short hair and no beard?
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<< <i>Was it me or Damon last year
Injury plagued
lower averaae
few homers
and every year
crappy arm? >>
True. You could almost see Damon breaking down last year, but I admired his courage to play hard through the injuries. Again, money is not an issue for the Yankees, so to give the declining Damon all that money for perhaps a good season or two is no big deal. But - it wasn't a very intelligent signing.
Damon will go from being an idol in Boston, to another overpaid and overrated member of the dysfunctional Yankees, and I am sad to see it happen to him. I wish him well, however...that is, until Opening Day.
What will he look like w/short hair and no beard? >>
Damon is not worth $13 mil per year --- but the Yanks will overpay, and it was not worth it to overpay Damon (it WAS worth it to slightly overpay Varitek). When his career is over, Damon will likely realize the extra $2 - $3 million was not worth it to put up with Yankee fans and Yankee ownership.
<< <i>Can anyone tell me WHAT Theo actually did (well)? Besides Pay Schilling more than any other team?
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Yeah, he overpaid Rent-a-Wreck, and the Sox now had to pay $11 million of his salary to unload him to the Braves.
<< <i>True. You could almost see Damon breaking down last year, but I admired his courage to play hard through the injuries. Again, money is not an issue for the Yankees, so to give the declining Damon all that money for perhaps a good season or two is no big deal. But - it wasn't a very intelligent signing.
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CT, I don't blame you for trying to rationalize this mistake by the leaderless ownership of the Red Sox. If I were you my first reaction would be to down play it. Nahhh, he's gettin old, has a crappy arm, has been breaking down with injuries. Heck, I tried to rationalize the Yankees letting Andy Pettitte go to Houston with the same stuff. Nahhh, his elbow is a ticking time bomb, too many tough miles on that arm.
I couldn't stand Damon, he is always on base in front of Ortiz and Manny. Now it will be in front of Jeter, A-Rod, and Sheffield.
Fine by me
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Ok, I agree the Yanks overpaid for him....his arm DOES suck but you cant deny he can cover A LOT of ground which is essential in Yankee Stadium and is one of the best, if not THE best leadoff hitter in the game.
Hopefully the lack of a zig zag outfield will help reduce the injuries. Less HR's? As a leadoff hitter that is ok as long as he gets on base. Did someone say lower average??? He hit the second highest batting average of his career last season.
Other than overpaying, its a great move for the Yankees. Other than the bullpen, centerfield was the biggest spot to fill. AND...he will no longer be a Yankee killer!
Look at his cards from 94 and 95...you will see how he will look with a haircut and clean shaven! LOL
As a Yankees fan, I say welcome Johnny Damon!!!
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And the yankees picking up another Red Sox castoff? Did the yankees really need another high priced free agent? Or should they have been looking for quality pitching instead?
Oh well, it will be fun rooting against them again this year, as they struggle to make the playoffs yet again.
"He always wants to have the best players, and I think he showed that tonight. He and Brian Cashman came after me hard," he said, referring to New York's general manager.
"A good leadoff hitter is tough to find, and I think that New York just found the best leadoff hitter in the game," he told WBZ.
You know, That Damon is such a modest guy.
Where does Ichiro fit in all of this? Hmmm
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And Axtell, you say the Red Sox and Yankees will be fine, I agree with half of that, the Yankees still look pretty good, but if I'm a Sox fan right now I'm worried about the Jays. The Jays will be the team in the hunt this year for the AL East pennant, not the Sox! I said it here first.
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<< <i> Was it me or Damon last year
Injury plagued
lower averaae
few homers
and every year
crappy arm? >>
I don't get the lower average point since it was the second highest of his career.
If this were the Rangers and the Pirates pulling off a trade with similar players, it would barely be mentioned.
But no; we need to interrupt regular programming, it's the Yanks!
Then, the postseason comes along, and then the red sox and yankees are out of it, and they wonder why there's no ratings for the world series? Well DUH it's a self fulfilling prophecy...you pound it into people's heads all year long that all they should watch are boston/ny games, you show them on sunday night baseball 99% of the time, people aren't going to be interested otherwise. However, the smart, long term thing to do would be to cover a variety of teams, get national interest in more than just these 2 soap operas, and you'd have a compelling world series regardless of who's involved.
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<< <i>Johnny Damon is a very good player, but the best leadoff hitter in baseball? Let's reserve that title for Ichiro.
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Wow, this has to be the first time EVER that I noticed Axtell speaking about his Mariners! Hip Hip Hoooooray !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<< <i>Being from Boston area Im not too upset about this, we will be ok. Damons arm can be replaced as well as his speed and everything else that seems to be declining. >>
yep,
just like Wade Boggs & Roger Clemens. All "seemed" to be declining.
Like I said, FINE WITH ME
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Good luck with him, I just love the Yanks yet again trying to spend more money than last year just to snub the Sox. They almost won it last year, I know they are still bitter about being on the wrong side of the biggest CHOKE in history. Maybe a clean shaven idiot will be the answer for them this upcoming season.
<< <i>Softparade,
Good luck with him, I just love the Yanks yet again trying to spend more money than last year just to snub the Sox. They almost won it last year, I know they are still bitter about being on the wrong side of the biggest CHOKE in history. Maybe a clean shaven idiot will be the answer for them this upcoming season. >>
I know what you are trying to say but ... whatever. The Yankees payroll will be down from the crazy 205 million to a ridiculous 175 million which is 30 million lower than last year and Damon has been the Yankees ONLY big ticket signing during an off-season when EVERBODY is throwing crazy money around. Perkdog, I don't mind anyone beating the payroll drum. Just remember, the Red Sox are the #2 biggest spenders in the game AND without a center fielder AND leadoff man
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I am enjoying how people seem to be making Damon a has-been at the end of a declining career. I really dont know the answer to this but were people saying this BEFORE the news?
No one has to talk about his arm...we all know he throws like a girl and that is the way he has been his entire career. So nothing new on that.
Yes, the Red Sox will be fine with Becket, Loretta and ummm...Marte? It's actually kind of sad that Boston turned their backs on Millar and Mueller. Can they afford to get rid of Manny now? I dont think so because they need someone to protect Ortiz in the lineup. Not only that, Red Sox dont seem to have much for an outfield any longer. I imagine they will go shopping now? Where is David Wells in all this? Did he have a 2 year contract? I dont see him on MLB Free Agent Tracker.
And I do know that Damon isnt the best leadoff hitter in the game...that was just to get some feathers ruffled.
Clemens went to Toronto first, then to NY...so please softie, no revisionist history here.
Damon in May was on record as saying how loyalty matters most, and he'd never play for the yankees. But here he is, taking the big money. Boston offered 4 years 40 million, he went with 4 years 52. Can't blame the guy for going for the bigger payday (just like I never begrudged Arod for taking $25 mill per), but come on, don't come out and say one thing then do the opposite.
As many have noted, his arm is weak, and his defense isn't exactly stellar. He's had a great couple years, but he's 32, and played a ton of games, and has had a tendency to tail off the end of the last couple of years.
NY fans seem to think that boston fans are in an uproar over losing damon, and they think they're 'sticking' it to beantown; but the majority of rational BoSox fans I've talked to have said the same thing: yes he was a good player, but by no means is it going to devastate their season.
Let's not forget Boston solidified their rotation, something the yankees seem to miss (and no, Chacon and Small are not the answer).
So yankee fans drink that Damon kool aid...hopefully you aren't here in may crying about Damon not performing. But then, you all think you're owed the world series every year.
The way I imagine it going down.....
Damon tells Scott Boras "Sign me with ANY team I will like for as much money as possible. I dont care who as long as they are a winner." Boras gets the best offer from the Yanks, calls Damon and says "Hey Johnny! How would you like to play for the Yankees?! They want to give you 4 years and the most money!" Johnny probably doesnt even hesitate and says "Heck yeah! A winning team who has a chance for another ring and they want to pay me the most! Where's the pen!??"
How many of Boras' clients even have THAT much of a say who they play for? I think they just leave it in his hands and they follow the green paper trail.
I think if you are Damon you wouldnt turn down the offer either.
The answer is NO, there is no more loyalty. Or should I say its VERY rare. Im not up to counting but how many players in the bigs have been with the same team for 10+ years since coming up to the majors?
And the player has the ultimate say in where he goes...he's signing the contract after all. If he was truly as loyal as he said he was early in the year, he would have called the Sox with a chance to counter NY's offer. But it sounds more and more like he was just about the biggest payday, and if you read his quotes, he sure is big on himself.
I am certain the Boston front office aren't all that broken up about Damon going away.
I still have no idea where you get that from other than I am a Yankees fan.
Softparade...I think you may be Spammy under an alt id...because all Yankees fans here are really Spammy. We are all Spammy. So maybe Axhole is right?
It's apparent from your posts that you have the same IQ as spammy (read: low), and now you breaking out the 'Axhole' (one of spammy's favorites) just gives you away.
And no, no crush on the guy, the forum's been a wonderful place without him.
I use "Axhole" ...saw it before, it is funny, and it fits so I am enjoying using it.
Enough of that crap...sorry to fill the board up with this nonsense everyone.
Go Yankees!
<< <i>Uggh...back to the CHOKE thing...isnt that old hat YET??? Let's keep up with what is going on TODAY! It's fine for other discussion.
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It NEVER gets old!!
I won’t be surprised if the Red Sox end up in 3rd place next year. Many Red Sox fans I have talked to have downplayed it and said he had a poor throwing arm. Funny stuff. I am glad the Yankees didn't get Nomar. That would have been a BIG mistake. Nomah has been injury plagued for the last 3 or 4 years, something like Griffey.
I just feel sorry for all of the little Red Sox fans. There just is no loyalty in baseball anymore. $13 Million more over 4 years did the trick. I guess there are loyal players when it comes to $1 Mill or so but when the offer is multi-millions more most players would bolt. The Yankees resigned Bernie Williams today for $1.5 Million….some cut since he was formerly making around $12 Mill per year. He is one of the loyal ones…several teams like the Mets were interested in Bernie but he decided to sign a 1 year contract and probably finish out his career with the Yankees. What a class guy. Tino too. The Yankees didn’t renew his contract and he has had other offers too but he will probably retire. There is still a chance the Yankees can sign him in May but that is how long they would have to wait since they missed the deadline.
<< <i>Hey Axhole....again, I am not your beloved "spammy" though I have seen how much of a crush you seem to have on him.
I still have no idea where you get that from other than I am a Yankees fan.
Softparade...I think you may be Spammy under an alt id...because all Yankees fans here are really Spammy. We are all Spammy. So maybe Axhole is right? >>
just ignore the clown. he goes away eventually
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Repeat after me:
"All Yankee fans are Spammys"
"All Spammys are Yankee fans"
"All Axtells are Yankees haters"
"All Yankees haters are Axtells"
<< <i>Boggs was on the downside of his career when he went to NY.
Clemens went to Toronto first, then to NY...so please softie, no revisionist history here.
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has nothing to do with the Yankees ya dim wit. It has EVERYTHING to do with the red Sox history of letting this happen to some of their key players over the years. But, yet again, you twist around words to fit your story.
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I am certain the Boston front office aren't all that broken up about Damon going away. >>
guess you didn't hear the press conference in Boston today
ahhh, more axtell propaganda
Lucchino: We have not heard from major league baseball, nor has there been any official confirmation from the Yankees (on the Damon transaction) as far as we know. So we're not here to make any announcement on anything. We're here because (we've) gotten a number of questions and inquiries about this and we though it was most efficient to make ourselves available to answer your questions.
We're you blindsided by this?
Lucchino: Well, I would say that since we don't have final confirmation yet, the last stages of this did come as a bit of a surprise to us.
Did you guys hear about the Yankees offer? And did you think Johnny Damon was bluffing?
Jed Hoyer: I think there were a lot of different offers out there in the days before, there were a lot of rumors about what was out there and what wasn't. Were we caught off guard? No, but we certainly were hearing a lot different things with a lot of different offers out there, a lot of different information out there regarding what the Yankees were and were not offering... no we didn't laugh, but there was a lot of information throughout this process that ended up not being true so it was a constant battle trying to decide what was true and what wasn't true.
Johnny told Channel 4 last night that he had expressed to Terry Francona that there was some urgency to this and he wanted the Red Sox to step up. Were you aware that the Yankees had an offer out to Johnny and if so was it (known) that he was at least feeling a sense of urgency and that the Red Sox needed to do something?
Lucchino: Well we certainly were made aware that there was some increased sense of urgency, that the time for a decision was coming upon us but there was no specificity to that and he did speak with Terry and I was aware of that.
Are you more inclined to keep Manny here now that Johnny's gone?
Lucchino: We made a commitment to Manny that we're going to live up to. That's to try to find a place for him that is comfortable and yet enables us to get fair value in the exchange. We're going to continue to live by that commitment to Manny. This has not changed that... There are a couple of clubs that have come forward and there are some discussions ongoing. Plenty of discussions with Manny and his agent on the subject but there is nothing that is imminent.
Johnny said he felt as if he couldn't persuade the Red Sox that he was serious about the urgency with which he need to respond to the Yankee offer. Was he misguided in believing that? Were the Red Sox properly persuaded with the seriousness that he was taking the Yankee offer?
Lucchino: We were aware of the fact that there was another team, one other team, and that team was probably the Yankees. In free agency there's no certainty about this information. You have to piece it together as best you can and we pieced together that there was another team out there that was going to be bidding against us.
It's fair to say that it is unusual that we were notified by the media (regarding the signing). Maybe that had to do with the fact that it was New York and there were some external deadlines imposed on them... I'm not casting aspersions; I'm simply suggesting that it is unusual that that's how the incumbent club in this case learned about it.
Dan Shaughnessy (Boston Globe)
No way around this one. Johnny Damon is a Yankee and it looks like the Red Sox don't know what they are doing. Time for Ben Cherington and Jed Hoyer to say hello to Lou Gorman and Dan Duquette. Looks like John Henry, Tom Werner, and Larry Lucchino finally know what it feels like to be Haywood Sullivan, Buddy LeRoux, and/or John Harrington.
While New England slept last night, Damon got into bed with the enemy. Sox officials smugly believed there was no market for their marquee center fielder and the Yankees took advantage of Boston's big sleep.
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Next year the Red Sox will be lucky to win 82 games.
<< <i>I just feel sorry for all of the little Red Sox fans. >>
Say what? Who woke up Spammy?
Us poor Red Sox fans are not broken up over losing Damon. Would it have been nice if he resigned? Of course. But, the Red Sox clearly will not have a team of broken down older veteran players in the next several years, while many of their rivals just might. Pedro? He's already saying he's still not healthy after the past season. Damon looked like he was 42, not 32, in August and September. The Red Sox added a solid starting pitcher to strengthen their rotation, and also picked up some quality arms at the back of the bullpen. They added one of the top prospects in all of baseball to potentially be their 3B for the next decade. And, they most likely aren't done yet - talk is they will pursue a trade for Jeremy Reed of Seattle to play CF, and I'm sure a SS is in the works. Pop on over to the Red Sox fan forums, and you will find that most fans are excited about this upcoming season, not all that sad about Damon, and more worried about the improvements the Blue Jays have made.
One more thing - how phony are Yankee fans? They constantly made fun of Damon's arm, his lack of power, and his long hair look. Now, all of a sudden, they love Johnny Damon! Yeah, right! Just wait until a guy scores on him from second base on a sac fly hit to deep center this summer.
And, I was really surprised to see how much of an arrogant jerk he was, especially right after the Sox were eliminated this past season. You aren't the best leadoff hitter in the game (Ichiro is, by far) Johnny. Maybe NY is the right place for him after all.
Come on man leave us mets fans out of this.. LOL this is real bad news for mets fans. our starting pitching is old and shaky. if pedro is not 100% all year. we gonna have another 500 season. yeah we can hit but i hope we get some pitching help here soon. sp that is!
And now for Damon. A couple of things you need to remember is that Damon never blossomed until he came to the sox. He was basically a good hitter with average skills. It took him nearly half a season to get untracked when he first got here and then went on to a below average showing. It's true, he did have a career year in 04, but that was 2 years ago. Last year was filled with bumps and bruises, severly limiting his power and speed. Doesn't anyone remember every AL team running on him at will or is it just me. Bottom line here is that the Yankees overpaid for him, like they do for every guy on their roster, and is this really about the Yankees and Red Sox, or is it more about the Yankees and Mets fighting for headlines in the post or the daily news? Hey, Damon may help Yankees offensively but last time I checked, the offense wasn't the problem, it was keeping guys like Johnson and Brown, Pavano, Wright and Mussina healthy, something they failed to do and have not upgraded. Good pitching will always stop good hitting. I don't care how much money you throw in a hole that large, you'll never be able to fill it (Yankees reported a loss for the second straight year, this time between 50 and 100 million). I guess money doesn't grow on trees in New York!
As for Red Sox, it will be interesting. They have 2 holes to fill as far as I can see. I think it's a good bet that Wells goes to San Diego with another player for Roberts and Gonzales from the Fathers. If that doesn't happen, don't be surprized to see Tori Hunter in a Red Sox uniform. I think the Sox will end up with Lugo at short who has been a red sox killer. Aubrey Huff go be in that deal too, the Sox have the financial resources now. In regards to Mueller and Milliar and the sox turning their backs on them, I say this, Lowell has more upside potential than Mueller and is just as solid (gold glove winner 05) and Milliar is on the downside, lower production, lower average and no speed. You only need to look at the Yankees to see the same thing, baseball is a business.
<< <i>Next year the Red Sox will be lucky to win 82 games. >>
I think you mean the *yankess* will be lucky to win 82 games.
They still have piss poor pitching, big unit is another year older, and Chacon and Small are your best pitchers?
haha thanks for the laugh.
What's another bat going to do for your schleps in NY? I mean it's not like the Yankees suffered from lack of run support, it's their pitching was ABSYMAL, and they've done little to nothing to address that.
On the other side of the coin, the Red Sox added depth, will have Schilling at full strength for a full year, and have a potent lineup with Manny and Ortiz coming back.
I guess the yankees really want to be the red sox after all, signing all their castoffs and rejects.
Does anyone in NY really think that Damon is going to singlehandedly give the yankees a world series win? Does this signing in and of itself hurt the redsox and benefit the yankees so much? Or are yankee fans so delusional that they think giving another 30+ guy with a weak arm $13 million a year is a great idea?
Poor form boys, poor form.
<< <i>Dan Shaughnessy (Boston Globe)
No way around this one. Johnny Damon is a Yankee and it looks like the Red Sox don't know what they are doing. Time for Ben Cherington and Jed Hoyer to say hello to Lou Gorman and Dan Duquette. Looks like John Henry, Tom Werner, and Larry Lucchino finally know what it feels like to be Haywood Sullivan, Buddy LeRoux, and/or John Harrington.
While New England slept last night, Damon got into bed with the enemy. Sox officials smugly believed there was no market for their marquee center fielder and the Yankees took advantage of Boston's big sleep. >>
Shaughnessy is such a piece of crap -- why do Bostonians put up with him? I wish HE would go to the Yankees. His drivel about the curse was perpetually annoying -- I thought the 04 WS would shut him up, but no such luck. I also love how he leaked the Theo stuff to help drive him out of town.
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<< <i>Next year the Red Sox will be lucky to win 82 games. >>
I think you mean the *yankess* will be lucky to win 82 games.
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