<< <i>What is up with the Yankees and their pitching staff? Have they upgraded at all this offseason? Will they wast ridiculas amounts of money on another Kevin Brown? >>
Don't bother asking clueless questions like this and then chime in on any other baseball thread spouting like you know what you are talking about It would take less effort to research any teams moves this off season then to ask a ridiculous question like that
BUT, it is the holidays so niceness abounds!
The Yankees signed Ron Villone, Kyle Farnsworth, and Mike Myers for the bullpen
Starters are any mix of Randy Johnson, Mike Mussina, Chien Ming Wang, Carl Pavano, Shawn Chacon, Jaret Wright, Aaron Small
Ax, before you go off on these Yankee starters, please critique the fives SAPS the mariners will be trotting out everyday >>
Crisp is not a free agent, and neither is Reed or Hunter. The Sox have made trade inquiries, however, for both Reed and Crisp.
I mentioned Hunter, because he has stated that he is unhappy in Minnesota, and the Boston press has frequently mentioned the great numbers he would put up in Fenway. I think his production would be better than anything Damon ever turned in, except possibly runs scored. I know the Sox are looking at him, but it would take a pretty interesting trade offer to get him.
How embarrasing it will be when you people dont make the world series AGAIN this year after outdoing their previous years payroll?
Shoring up the bullpen..OK but not as neccesary as the rotation issues, Your mix of starters? That was the reason you guys failed last year, do you think Johnson or Mussina will actually be better this year? Your staff is not even much better than last year and it needed to be upgraded more than plugging another high priced free agent in the lineup.
How embarrasing it will be when you people dont make the world series AGAIN this year after outdoing their previous years payroll?
Shoring up the bullpen..OK but not as neccesary as the rotation issues, Your mix of starters? That was the reason you guys failed last year, do you think Johnson or Mussina will actually be better this year? Your staff is not even much better than last year and it needed to be upgraded more than plugging another high priced free agent in the lineup. >>
perk, at this point the Yankees payroll is down significantly over last year. Now sure that can change, but I don't see anybody who the Yanks are going to throw money at after Damon. So, look for the Yankees payroll to shrink by 20 million or so for the first time in more than 10 years.
That high priced free agent you are talking about happens to be a center fielder AND leadoff man. Both of which were huge holes on the team. They kill two birds with 1 stone. Also, I would love for the Yanks to upgrade their rotation. BUT THERE IS NOBODY out there. Except Kevin millwood who the Rangers threw just LUDICROUS money at for a guy of his caliber. So, how can the Yankees be wrong by signing Damon who fills two huge holes? There is no "upgrade" out there for the pitching staff.
If there is going to be any upgrading to any pitching staffs it appears they will need to do it in trade. As soft said, there is NOTHING out there for pitching.
That high priced free agent you are talking about happens to be a center fielder AND leadoff man. Both of which were huge holes on the team. They kill two birds with 1 stone.
They really killed 3 birds with 1 stone, the 3rd stealing Damon from the their major archrival which has sent them scurrying.
If the Red Sox trade for Coco Crisp or Torii Hunter Cleveland or Minnesota are going to want a lot in return.
In order to be stolen, it needs to be something that was wanted.
As evidenced by their lukewarm reception of him, it's obvious Damon wasn't a long term solution for the Sox. But you yankee lovers can't help but piss yourselves at the thought you actually 'stole' a player from the sox.
"This is a long standing tradition between the Sox and Yanks. Started circa 1920."
Yes, it most certainly is. This is the first time since 1920 that a player who won the World Series for the Red Sox went to the dreaded Yankees. Sure there was Boggs and Clemens (who came via Toronto) but they had never won a World Series at that point. It took the Yankees to make them a champion.
<< <i>"This is a long standing tradition between the Sox and Yanks. Started circa 1920."
Yes, it most certainly is. This is the first time since 1920 that a player who won the World Series for the Red Sox went to the dreaded Yankees. Sure there was Boggs and Clemens (who came via Toronto) but they had never won a World Series at that point. It took the Yankees to make them a champion. >>
Your 'logic' is as flawed as ever, spammy. Damon was a champion more recently than ANY yankee.
So what, the yankees are trying to infuse the winning tradition into the yanks via boston players?
This is a huge blow to any Bosox fan. How can any respectaple player go directly from the Sox to the Yanks? Does anyone understand the gravity of this error? Does anyone in NY respect this move by Damon? No, NY just sees this a blow to Boston. They'll be booing Damon if he doesn't hit .300 and Boston fans see this as true treason. I found a Damon jersey after searching MLB and other sites at Star Struck. I bought it for my 25 yr married son for Christmas after talking with his wife. He won't even try on the stinkin' thing. I got it delivered the day Johnny was traded. My son called yesterday and apologized for his anger on Christmas day. He wanted to assure me it was towards Damon. Star Struck agreed to take it back for a credit. This was really generous of them and things will work out here at home. As for Boston and New York, the rivalary continues, and in the eyes of Boston fans, Damon sucks!
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It should be obvious, but - the Yanks did not "steal" Damon.
And, the Sox are not "scurrying".
If they wanted to keep him, they would have paid him - probably even before his contract expired. It simply isn't a good long-term baseball decision to give Damon 13 million dollars a year, for the next four seasons. The Yanks will find that out soon enough.
<< <i> It simply isn't a good long-term baseball decision to give Damon 13 million dollars a year, for the next four seasons. The Yanks will find that out soon enough. >>
<< <i>It should be obvious, but - the Yanks did not "steal" Damon. >>
to yankee fans delirious from not having won the world series in the last year, they are scratching and clawing at anything to make themselves feel better. This notion they stole Damon is what is tiding them over until spring. Too bad the lot of them aren't intelligent to notice they didn't need to spend $13 million for a CF and leadoff man, they need pitching in spades.
<< <i> If they wanted to keep him, they would have paid him - probably even before his contract expired. It simply isn't a good long-term baseball decision to give Damon 13 million dollars a year, for the next four seasons. The Yanks will find that out soon enough. >>
This contract is the norm for the yanks...find some big name, 30 something player who hits well, and offer him more money than any other team in their right minds would do...and then brag about what a brilliant move it is.
Really, how hard is Cashman's job? Blank checks to sign any player they want? How tough a deal is that? For a team like Oakland to be competitive every year with such a fraction of the yankees payroll shows what a real GM can do.
<< <i>It should be obvious, but - the Yanks did not "steal" Damon. >>
to yankee fans delirious from not having won the world series in the last year, they are scratching and clawing at anything to make themselves feel better. This notion they stole Damon is what is tiding them over until spring. Too bad the lot of them aren't intelligent to notice they didn't need to spend $13 million for a CF and leadoff man, they need pitching in spades.
<< <i> If they wanted to keep him, they would have paid him - probably even before his contract expired. It simply isn't a good long-term baseball decision to give Damon 13 million dollars a year, for the next four seasons. The Yanks will find that out soon enough. >>
This contract is the norm for the yanks...find some big name, 30 something player who hits well, and offer him more money than any other team in their right minds would do...and then brag about what a brilliant move it is.
Really, how hard is Cashman's job? Blank checks to sign any player they want? How tough a deal is that? For a team like Oakland to be competitive every year with such a fraction of the yankees payroll shows what a real GM can do. >>
<< <i>Really, how hard is Cashman's job? Blank checks to sign any player they want? How tough a deal is that? For a team like Oakland to be competitive every year with such a fraction of the yankees payroll shows what a real GM can do. >>
I strongly agree. Look at how Oakland and Minnesota remain competitive every year, while the Yanks spend and spend. The GM's of those teams really have the tough jobs. Cashman, by comparison, has it easy. Let's see him work with a $50 million dollar payroll - you really have to know how to scout players, make savvy trades, build the minor league programs - all things the Yankee organization has lacked for the last 10-15 years.
<< <i> I strongly agree. Look at how Oakland and Minnesota remain competitive every year, while the Yanks spend and spend. The GM's of those teams really have the tough jobs. Cashman, by comparison, has it easy. Let's see him work with a $50 million dollar payroll - you really have to know how to scout players, make savvy trades, build the minor league programs - all things the Yankee organization has lacked for the last 10-15 years. >>
Thats all fine and dandy CT, but those GM's can walk away with a succesful season at .500 or 85 wins ...... Cashman HAS to win the World Series EVERY YEAR to label the season a success. That my friend, is the toughest thing to do with even Saudi Arabia's oil profits as your payroll.
Oh please, you're embarassing yourself out here...get back to the woodshed or under the bed with spammy and yankeeno...otherwise you clowns keep setting them up, I'll keep knocking them down.
Oh wait, you're a yankee fan. Guess you're used to embarassing yourself.
CT...I agree with your point...but it's the Yankee way...win today, not tomorrow. And I think Toronto has decided to take that road with the Red Sox and Yankees. It's now the nature of the AL East.
<< <i> I strongly agree. Look at how Oakland and Minnesota remain competitive every year, while the Yanks spend and spend. The GM's of those teams really have the tough jobs. Cashman, by comparison, has it easy. Let's see him work with a $50 million dollar payroll - you really have to know how to scout players, make savvy trades, build the minor league programs - all things the Yankee organization has lacked for the last 10-15 years. >>
Thats all fine and dandy CT, but those GM's can walk away with a succesful season at .500 or 85 wins ...... Cashman HAS to win the World Series EVERY YEAR to label the season a success. That my friend, is the toughest thing to do with even Saudi Arabia's oil profits as your payroll. >>
Really? When's the last time Cashman and Co. won a world series? Oh that's right...5 years ago. But it didn't stop him from getting a 3 year contract extension, did it boy? Cashman makes a perfect 'yes' man to georgie...'sign that check cashman!' 'yes sir!'
I'd like to see queen george and cashman be successful with Oaklands payroll. The yankees would lose 100 games every year.
<< <i>One thing I know for sure....I will never have to wonder what its like being a Seattle Mariners fan! >>
Good...I'd rather die than have a stinking yankee 'fan' like the Mariners. But then, you're a front runner like your boys softbrained and spammy...who care only about the number of world series titles and not the team itself. You care more that they outspend everyone, and care more about what free agent you can buy next, instead of wanting your team's youth to play.
There's no room for you on this bus anyways...go catch a taxi back under your bed.
<< <i>One thing I know for sure....I will never have to wonder what its like being a Seattle Mariners fan! >>
Good...I'd rather die than have a stinking yankee 'fan' like the Mariners. But then, you're a front runner like your boys softbrained and spammy...who care only about the number of world series titles and not the team itself. You care more that they outspend everyone, and care more about what free agent you can buy next, instead of wanting your team's youth to play.
There's no room for you on this bus anyways...go catch a taxi back under your bed. >>
By your definition, in order for Cashman to be considered having a successful season, he HAS to win the world series, right?
Ok then, the facts show that Cashman has not produced a world series win in 5 years? Staying with me?
So by your own logic, he's FAILED at his job for 5 straight years...FIVE YEARS! I don't know about you, but any employee who fails consistently for 5 years in a row sure as hell wouldn't be getting a contract extension for THREE MORE.
As usual, your logic is flawed. Care to try again?
Well softie it's quite apparent your brain has exploded and you are simply posting the same inane posts over and over.
I guess that's what happens from the extreme mental anguish of being exposed as the fraud you are, and me handing your ass to you over and over and over?
Go check yourself into a mental 'facility' (and by facility I mean hospital that practices lots and lots of electroshock) and enjoy your lobotomy.
How embarrasing it will be when you people dont make the world series AGAIN this year after outdoing their previous years payroll?
Shoring up the bullpen..OK but not as neccesary as the rotation issues, Your mix of starters? That was the reason you guys failed last year, do you think Johnson or Mussina will actually be better this year? Your staff is not even much better than last year and it needed to be upgraded more than plugging another high priced free agent in the lineup. >>
perk, at this point the Yankees payroll is down significantly over last year. Now sure that can change, but I don't see anybody who the Yanks are going to throw money at after Damon. So, look for the Yankees payroll to shrink by 20 million or so for the first time in more than 10 years.
That high priced free agent you are talking about happens to be a center fielder AND leadoff man. Both of which were huge holes on the team. They kill two birds with 1 stone. Also, I would love for the Yanks to upgrade their rotation. BUT THERE IS NOBODY out there. Except Kevin millwood who the Rangers threw just LUDICROUS money at for a guy of his caliber. So, how can the Yankees be wrong by signing Damon who fills two huge holes? There is no "upgrade" out there for the pitching staff. >>
Softparade, Fine I will agree with your points there, bottom line I dont really think the Yanks Pitching staff will go very far this year and thats my two cents, I have other things going on so I will step away from the fray...just wanted to re-respond.
Softparade, Fine I will agree with your points there, bottom line I dont really think the Yanks Pitching staff will go very far this year and thats my two cents, I have other things going on so I will step away from the fray...just wanted to re-respond. >>
well the starting pitching can certainly be looked at as the Yankees weakest link that is for sure. But, besides the White Sox, who HAS that bullet proof rotation? Nobody ....
The Yankees will make some moves to improve the pitching staff. What's the big deal about pointing this out.... repeatedly? Think they don't know that? As if Jonny Damon's lack of allegiance to Beantown, and wanting to be with a team that will win the WS again within the next century, is the ONLY move NY is going to make? Come now, bashers. Regards.
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<< <i>What is up with the Yankees and their pitching staff? Have they upgraded at all this offseason? Will they wast ridiculas amounts of money on another Kevin Brown? >>
Don't bother asking clueless questions like this and then chime in on any other baseball thread spouting like you know what you are talking about
It would take less effort to research any teams moves this off season then to ask a ridiculous question like that
BUT, it is the holidays so niceness abounds!
The Yankees signed Ron Villone, Kyle Farnsworth, and Mike Myers for the bullpen
Starters are any mix of Randy Johnson, Mike Mussina, Chien Ming Wang, Carl Pavano, Shawn Chacon, Jaret Wright, Aaron Small
Ax, before you go off on these Yankee starters, please critique the fives SAPS the mariners will be trotting out everyday
I mentioned Hunter, because he has stated that he is unhappy in Minnesota, and the Boston press has frequently mentioned the great numbers he would put up in Fenway. I think his production would be better than anything Damon ever turned in, except possibly runs scored. I know the Sox are looking at him, but it would take a pretty interesting trade offer to get him.
Softparade,
How embarrasing it will be when you people dont make the world series AGAIN this year after outdoing their previous years payroll?
Shoring up the bullpen..OK but not as neccesary as the rotation issues, Your mix of starters? That was the reason you guys failed last year, do you think Johnson or Mussina will actually be better this year? Your staff is not even much better than last year and it needed to be upgraded more than plugging another high priced free agent in the lineup.
Have the Red Sox inquired about Alex Gonzalez? He is probably the best available Shortstop who is a free agent right now.
Bosox really do have a lot of holes to fill....the Blue Jays are looking better every day!
Maybe with Reed, and Lugo from TB.
The yankees have glaring holes in the starting rotation...you'd think that would be a more pressing concern than signing Damon for a $52 million deal.
<< <i>Softparade,
How embarrasing it will be when you people dont make the world series AGAIN this year after outdoing their previous years payroll?
Shoring up the bullpen..OK but not as neccesary as the rotation issues, Your mix of starters? That was the reason you guys failed last year, do you think Johnson or Mussina will actually be better this year? Your staff is not even much better than last year and it needed to be upgraded more than plugging another high priced free agent in the lineup. >>
perk, at this point the Yankees payroll is down significantly over last year. Now sure that can change, but I don't see anybody who the Yanks are going to throw money at after Damon. So, look for the Yankees payroll to shrink by 20 million or so for the first time in more than 10 years.
That high priced free agent you are talking about happens to be a center fielder AND leadoff man. Both of which were huge holes on the team. They kill two birds with 1 stone. Also, I would love for the Yanks to upgrade their rotation. BUT THERE IS NOBODY out there. Except Kevin millwood who the Rangers threw just LUDICROUS money at for a guy of his caliber. So, how can the Yankees be wrong by signing Damon who fills two huge holes? There is no "upgrade" out there for the pitching staff.
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That high priced free agent you are talking about happens to be a center fielder AND leadoff man. Both of which were huge holes on the team. They kill two birds with 1 stone.
They really killed 3 birds with 1 stone, the 3rd stealing Damon from the their major archrival which has sent them scurrying.
If the Red Sox trade for Coco Crisp or Torii Hunter Cleveland or Minnesota are going to want a lot in return.
As evidenced by their lukewarm reception of him, it's obvious Damon wasn't a long term solution for the Sox. But you yankee lovers can't help but piss yourselves at the thought you actually 'stole' a player from the sox.
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Yes, it most certainly is. This is the first time since 1920 that a player who won the World Series for the Red Sox went to the dreaded Yankees. Sure there was Boggs and Clemens (who came via Toronto) but they had never won a World Series at that point. It took the Yankees to make them a champion.
<< <i>"This is a long standing tradition between the Sox and Yanks. Started circa 1920."
Yes, it most certainly is. This is the first time since 1920 that a player who won the World Series for the Red Sox went to the dreaded Yankees. Sure there was Boggs and Clemens (who came via Toronto) but they had never won a World Series at that point. It took the Yankees to make them a champion.
Your 'logic' is as flawed as ever, spammy. Damon was a champion more recently than ANY yankee.
So what, the yankees are trying to infuse the winning tradition into the yanks via boston players?
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And, the Sox are not "scurrying".
If they wanted to keep him, they would have paid him - probably even before his contract expired. It simply isn't a good long-term baseball decision to give Damon 13 million dollars a year, for the next four seasons. The Yanks will find that out soon enough.
<< <i> It simply isn't a good long-term baseball decision to give Damon 13 million dollars a year, for the next four seasons. The Yanks will find that out soon enough. >>
we shall see ct ........
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<< <i>It should be obvious, but - the Yanks did not "steal" Damon.
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to yankee fans delirious from not having won the world series in the last year, they are scratching and clawing at anything to make themselves feel better. This notion they stole Damon is what is tiding them over until spring. Too bad the lot of them aren't intelligent to notice they didn't need to spend $13 million for a CF and leadoff man, they need pitching in spades.
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If they wanted to keep him, they would have paid him - probably even before his contract expired. It simply isn't a good long-term baseball decision to give Damon 13 million dollars a year, for the next four seasons. The Yanks will find that out soon enough. >>
This contract is the norm for the yanks...find some big name, 30 something player who hits well, and offer him more money than any other team in their right minds would do...and then brag about what a brilliant move it is.
Really, how hard is Cashman's job? Blank checks to sign any player they want? How tough a deal is that? For a team like Oakland to be competitive every year with such a fraction of the yankees payroll shows what a real GM can do.
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<< <i>It should be obvious, but - the Yanks did not "steal" Damon.
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to yankee fans delirious from not having won the world series in the last year, they are scratching and clawing at anything to make themselves feel better. This notion they stole Damon is what is tiding them over until spring. Too bad the lot of them aren't intelligent to notice they didn't need to spend $13 million for a CF and leadoff man, they need pitching in spades.
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If they wanted to keep him, they would have paid him - probably even before his contract expired. It simply isn't a good long-term baseball decision to give Damon 13 million dollars a year, for the next four seasons. The Yanks will find that out soon enough. >>
This contract is the norm for the yanks...find some big name, 30 something player who hits well, and offer him more money than any other team in their right minds would do...and then brag about what a brilliant move it is.
Really, how hard is Cashman's job? Blank checks to sign any player they want? How tough a deal is that? For a team like Oakland to be competitive every year with such a fraction of the yankees payroll shows what a real GM can do. >>
ax, you are starting to sound sooooooo much like Charlie Browns teacher. wa wa wa wa waaaa wa wa waw wa wa wa waaa
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Let me smack you right across your face to wake you up, so I can start the beatdown again then.
Truth hurts, don't it boy?
<< <i>Really, how hard is Cashman's job? Blank checks to sign any player they want? How tough a deal is that? For a team like Oakland to be competitive every year with such a fraction of the yankees payroll shows what a real GM can do. >>
I strongly agree. Look at how Oakland and Minnesota remain competitive every year, while the Yanks spend and spend. The GM's of those teams really have the tough jobs. Cashman, by comparison, has it easy. Let's see him work with a $50 million dollar payroll - you really have to know how to scout players, make savvy trades, build the minor league programs - all things the Yankee organization has lacked for the last 10-15 years.
<< <i>Well I guess when you're so demoralized from being pummelled over and over again, you are going to lose focus.
Let me smack you right across your face to wake you up, so I can start the beatdown again then.
Truth hurts, don't it boy? >>
That is no way to talk to your DADDY ax.
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<< <i> I strongly agree. Look at how Oakland and Minnesota remain competitive every year, while the Yanks spend and spend. The GM's of those teams really have the tough jobs. Cashman, by comparison, has it easy. Let's see him work with a $50 million dollar payroll - you really have to know how to scout players, make savvy trades, build the minor league programs - all things the Yankee organization has lacked for the last 10-15 years. >>
Thats all fine and dandy CT, but those GM's can walk away with a succesful season at .500 or 85 wins ...... Cashman HAS to win the World Series EVERY YEAR to label the season a success. That my friend, is the toughest thing to do with even Saudi Arabia's oil profits as your payroll.
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Oh wait, you're a yankee fan. Guess you're used to embarassing yourself.
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<< <i> I strongly agree. Look at how Oakland and Minnesota remain competitive every year, while the Yanks spend and spend. The GM's of those teams really have the tough jobs. Cashman, by comparison, has it easy. Let's see him work with a $50 million dollar payroll - you really have to know how to scout players, make savvy trades, build the minor league programs - all things the Yankee organization has lacked for the last 10-15 years. >>
Thats all fine and dandy CT, but those GM's can walk away with a succesful season at .500 or 85 wins ...... Cashman HAS to win the World Series EVERY YEAR to label the season a success. That my friend, is the toughest thing to do with even Saudi Arabia's oil profits as your payroll. >>
Really? When's the last time Cashman and Co. won a world series? Oh that's right...5 years ago. But it didn't stop him from getting a 3 year contract extension, did it boy? Cashman makes a perfect 'yes' man to georgie...'sign that check cashman!' 'yes sir!'
I'd like to see queen george and cashman be successful with Oaklands payroll. The yankees would lose 100 games every year.
And you can take that to the bank, spanky.
<< <i> Really? When's the last time Cashman and Co. won a world series? Oh that's right...5 years ago. . >>
pretty tough job HAVING TO WIN the series every year huh?
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<< <i>One thing I know for sure....I will never have to wonder what its like being a Seattle Mariners fan!
Good...I'd rather die than have a stinking yankee 'fan' like the Mariners. But then, you're a front runner like your boys softbrained and spammy...who care only about the number of world series titles and not the team itself. You care more that they outspend everyone, and care more about what free agent you can buy next, instead of wanting your team's youth to play.
There's no room for you on this bus anyways...go catch a taxi back under your bed.
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<< <i> Really? When's the last time Cashman and Co. won a world series? Oh that's right...5 years ago. . >>
pretty tough job HAVING TO WIN the series every year huh? >>
Well obviously he's not HAVING to win the series otherwise he wouldn't have gotten the extension then would he numb nuts?
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<< <i>One thing I know for sure....I will never have to wonder what its like being a Seattle Mariners fan!
Good...I'd rather die than have a stinking yankee 'fan' like the Mariners. But then, you're a front runner like your boys softbrained and spammy...who care only about the number of world series titles and not the team itself. You care more that they outspend everyone, and care more about what free agent you can buy next, instead of wanting your team's youth to play.
There's no room for you on this bus anyways...go catch a taxi back under your bed. >>
<< <i> Well obviously he's not HAVING to win the series otherwise he wouldn't have gotten the extension then would he numb nuts? >>
Tough job HAVING to win that Series EVERY year in order for your season to be considered succesful huh?
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By your definition, in order for Cashman to be considered having a successful season, he HAS to win the world series, right?
Ok then, the facts show that Cashman has not produced a world series win in 5 years? Staying with me?
So by your own logic, he's FAILED at his job for 5 straight years...FIVE YEARS! I don't know about you, but any employee who fails consistently for 5 years in a row sure as hell wouldn't be getting a contract extension for THREE MORE.
As usual, your logic is flawed. Care to try again?
Gee, even your nemesis George realizes this.
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I guess that's what happens from the extreme mental anguish of being exposed as the fraud you are, and me handing your ass to you over and over and over?
Go check yourself into a mental 'facility' (and by facility I mean hospital that practices lots and lots of electroshock) and enjoy your lobotomy.
Have a great night!
Oh wait...that is the voice of a Mariners fan...
<< <i> Have a great night! >>
You do the same! I should be around tomorrow or maybe Thursday if you are itching for another beating.
Cheers
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<< <i>Has somebody eaten some lead paint as a child??? huhhh????
Oh wait...that is the voice of a Mariners fan... >>
Uhm you have all that time and eating lead based paint is your best comeback?
I am sure you can do better than that.
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<< <i>Softparade,
How embarrasing it will be when you people dont make the world series AGAIN this year after outdoing their previous years payroll?
Shoring up the bullpen..OK but not as neccesary as the rotation issues, Your mix of starters? That was the reason you guys failed last year, do you think Johnson or Mussina will actually be better this year? Your staff is not even much better than last year and it needed to be upgraded more than plugging another high priced free agent in the lineup. >>
perk, at this point the Yankees payroll is down significantly over last year. Now sure that can change, but I don't see anybody who the Yanks are going to throw money at after Damon. So, look for the Yankees payroll to shrink by 20 million or so for the first time in more than 10 years.
That high priced free agent you are talking about happens to be a center fielder AND leadoff man. Both of which were huge holes on the team. They kill two birds with 1 stone. Also, I would love for the Yanks to upgrade their rotation. BUT THERE IS NOBODY out there. Except Kevin millwood who the Rangers threw just LUDICROUS money at for a guy of his caliber. So, how can the Yankees be wrong by signing Damon who fills two huge holes? There is no "upgrade" out there for the pitching staff. >>
Softparade, Fine I will agree with your points there, bottom line I dont really think the Yanks Pitching staff will go very far this year and thats my two cents, I have other things going on so I will step away from the fray...just wanted to re-respond.
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Softparade, Fine I will agree with your points there, bottom line I dont really think the Yanks Pitching staff will go very far this year and thats my two cents, I have other things going on so I will step away from the fray...just wanted to re-respond. >>
well the starting pitching can certainly be looked at as the Yankees weakest link that is for sure. But, besides the White Sox, who HAS that bullet proof rotation? Nobody ....
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