The official Vintage Golf Card Thread

Golfcollector

It has been talked about from a few of us, and it seems like everytime Peter, Jason, or I post scans people like them, so I figured what the heck, lets start a thread!

To kick it off right, I just received via Fed Ex overnight International from England(I know that wasn't cheap) complete sets of 1900 Copes Golfers, 1923 Copes Golf Strokes, 1927 Churchman Famous golfers small and both large series of the 1927 and 1928 Famous Golfers.

I sold a kidney to buy this great collection, but I must admit they are some of the best looking vintage golf cards from some REALLY tough sets I have ever seen. Hope to sell some stuff off and pay for a whole lotta grading fees. I will keep you posted once I get some back and some scans in.

I would also love to hear from any of you that have an interest in these great cards! I had a chance to meet a few new folks at the National who seemed to like the old golf cards and it also seems that a few others may now be officially hooked. If any of you have any questions on comments let us know here as well.

I am also working to write a pre war golf article for the SMR which I hope will be full of some great scans!

Happy Collecting!

Dave

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

Congratulations on such a great find. I look forward to seeing some of those scans and the registries jump once you add your graded cards. Wow, a high quality complete 1900 Cope Golfers set. That set is over a hundred years old. Not to offend anyone, but that is twice the age of the epic 1952 Topps Baseball set and these cards came from tobacco packs not wax packs. It's tough enough to find one in mid grade, I can't imagine a full set. I know you shelled out a lot for them, but that will be one amazing set to see on the registry.

I'm very much anxious to see how your pre-war article turns out. If there are any scans I can send to assist you just give me the word.

Below are a couple of scans from the 1914 Marsuma set. These are really tough cards to find in decent condition. I hope everyone enjoys.


1914 Marsuma # 6 James Braid

1914 Marsuma # 22 Arnaud Massey

TWINRON

KEEP ME IN MIND RE THE 1927 CHURCHMAN's. I HAVE 40 of the 50 AT PSA FOR GRADING. DEPENDING HOW KIND THEY ARE WILL DETERMINE HOW AGRESSIVELY I PURSUE A HIGH GRADE SET. RON

Vintagegolfcollector

Ron, let me know when you get your grades back and please share. I'm holding the PSA 8 Hogan just in case you still want it. I have a small vintage submission at PSA that my have some cards you need.

I know these are not vintage, but take a look at my last submission. Not one of my better ones but the grades are fair and the turnaround time is fantastic.

PSA Order Status for Submission # 578293


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 12322290 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 18 GIL MORGAN N/A 9
2 12322291 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 33 JIM SIMONS N/A 7
3 12322292 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 11 JACK RENNER N/A 8
4 12322293 1982 DONRUSS GOLF TOM WATSON STATISTICAL LEADER 8
5 12322294 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 53 FRED COUPLES N/A 8
6 12322295 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 11 JACK RENNER N/A 8
7 12322296 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 56 MARK LYE N/A 8
8 12322297 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 34 SCOTT SIMPSON N/A 8
9 12322298 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 5 BILL ROGERS N/A 9
10 12322299 1982 DONRUSS GOLF BRUCE LIETZKE STATISTICAL LEADER 9
11 12322300 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 18 GIL MORGAN N/A 9
12 12322301 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 57 DON POOLEY N/A 9
13 12322302 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 34 SCOTT SIMPSON N/A 8
14 12322303 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 46 MARK HAYES N/A 9
15 12322304 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 41 MIKE SULLIVAN N/A 9
16 12322305 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 40 LEONARD THOMPSON N/A 9
17 12322306 1990 ARIZONA STATE 109 J.GUNDERSON-CARNER COLLEGIATE COLLECTION 9
17 12322307 1990 ARIZONA STATE 109 J.GUNDERSON-CARNER COLLEGIATE COLLECTION 8
17 12322308 1990 ARIZONA STATE 109 J.GUNDERSON-CARNER COLLEGIATE COLLECTION 7
18 12322309 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 201 JACK NICKLAUS N/A 9
19 12322310 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 9
19 12322311 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 7
19 12322312 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 7
19 12322313 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 9
20 12322314 1982 DONRUSS GOLF 9 CURTIS STRANGE N/A 8

Date Received: 08/17/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 08/23/2005
Date Shipped: 08/23/2005


Peter

Golfcollector

Nice Peter, the 1982's are tough grading.

I have a bunch of Vijay, Olazabal, Toms and Lehman rookies that should be back from PSA any day. I have the first 2 PSA 10 Vijays ever graded. Need to get factory sets of Pro set if you want high grades, out of retail boxes it is impossible.

Golfcollector

here is my latest submission just back today!

1 12297590 1990 ARIZONA STATE 109 J.GUNDERSON-CARNER COLLEGIATE COLLECTION 9
2 12297591 1991 S.I. FOR KIDS 285 BETSY KING N/A Not Holdered, Evidence of Trimming (crud, thought the perferations were still there!)
3 12297592 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E9 JOSE MARIA OLAZABEL EUROPEAN TOUR 9
3 12297593 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E9 JOSE MARIA OLAZABEL EUROPEAN TOUR 10
3 12297594 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E9 JOSE MARIA OLAZABEL EUROPEAN TOUR 9
3 12297595 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E9 JOSE MARIA OLAZABEL EUROPEAN TOUR 9
3 12297596 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E9 JOSE MARIA OLAZABEL EUROPEAN TOUR 9
3 12297597 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E9 JOSE MARIA OLAZABEL EUROPEAN TOUR 10
4 12297598 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 9
4 12297599 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 8
4 12297600 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 10
4 12297601 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 9
4 12297602 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 9
4 12297603 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 10
4 12297604 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET E6 VIJAY SINGH EUROPEAN TOUR 8
5 12297605 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 173 TOM LEHMAN N/A 9
5 12297606 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 173 TOM LEHMAN N/A 9
5 12297607 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 173 TOM LEHMAN N/A 10
5 12297608 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 173 TOM LEHMAN N/A 10
6 12297609 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 156 DAVID TOMS N/A 9
6 12297610 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 156 DAVID TOMS N/A 10
6 12297611 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 156 DAVID TOMS N/A 8
6 12297612 1992 PGA TOUR PRO SET 156 DAVID TOMS N/A

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

Nice job on the Vijah rookie. Didn't the last PSA 10 go for $ 200 or so? I will have to wait for the price to come down before I upgrade my PSA 9.

Have you decided yet on how you're going to get your large stash of vintage graded? I can't wait to see that 1900 Cope set grade out.

Great job.

Peter

Golfcollector

As far as I know I have the only 2 PSA 10 vijays, at least according to the Pop report. I have seen some Beckett 9.5's go for about $200. I sold a 9 a couple of weeks back for around $55. My last submssion garnered 8 of the 9 cards that have acheived a grade of 10! Not too bad of a submission!

JW

Dave,
This thread is a great idea. Hopefully, we can get some other collectors interested in our little part of the hobby. I also look forward to seeing how your most recent purchases grade out, especially the 1900 Copes. I would have loved to have opened that package.
Jason

JW

Here are my recent collector’s club submission results. The last three are crack out crossovers and the grades that I was expecting in parentheses. The Millhoff Sweetser is painful, there must be surface wrinkle or something on the front surface that SGC and I missed.


1 90510365 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 7 ARNAUD MASSY FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 6 (PSA 6)
2 90510366 1930 W.D. & H.O. WILLS 5 GEORGE GADD FAMOUS GOLFERS 7 (PSA 7)
3 90510367 1930 W.D. & H.O. WILLS 14 ARNAUD MASSY FAMOUS GOLFERS 6 (PSA 7)
4 90510368 1928 J. MILLHOFF & CO. 10 JESSE SWEETSER FAMOUS GOLFERS 5 (PSA 7 or 8, it was SGC 84/7 --- Ouch!)
5 90510369 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 9 HARRY VARDON PROMINENT GOLFERS 7 (PSA 7 or 8, I think it is closer to an 8 than a 7)
6 90510370 1998 TOPPS CHROME 77 MICHAEL JORDAN REFRACTOR 8 (PSA 8 or 9 (the centering was the only question), it was a PRO 9.5)

Date Received: 08/15/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 08/23/2005
Date Shipped: 08/23/2005

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

I appreciate your help on the 1927 Churchman small set. Thanks to you it has now eclipsed the 8.00 set GPA. Six months ago, I would have predicted at least a couple of years for that to occur.

How you making out on that stash of high grade vintage? Any decision yet on how you're going to submit the cards? I can't wait to see the results for both Cope sets and the 1927 Large cards.

Catch you later.

Peter

gmoneystyles

<< <i>It has been talked about from a few of us, and it seems like everytime Peter, Jason, or I post scans people like them, so I figured what the heck, lets start a thread! >>



To be honest, like you said, I liked the scans. You have some beauty cards.

Golfcollector

Sending in the following cards today on the set registry 5 day special. I have indicated anticipated grades below. I am intentionally trying to grade these ultra conservatively so hopefully I will be pleasantly suprised later.

1927 Churchman Large Series #1 set.
Card My rough grade prediction
#1 John Ball - 5
#2 James Braid 6
#3 George Duncan 6-7
#4 Walter Hagen 6-7 (this one has a printing smudge on the left border so not sure)
#5 Alex Herd 6
#6 Holderness 6
#7 Bobby Jones 7 (looks nicer than the two 6's I have owned)
#8 Abe Mitchell 7
#9 Ed Ray 7
#10 J H Taylor 7
#11 Harry Vardon 6
#12 Wethered 5

1927 Small Series

#13 Walter Hagen 6
#14 Walter Hagen 7
#27 Bobby Jones 7
#28 Bobby Jones 7

1900 Copes Golfers

Old Tom Morris 5
Tom Morris JNR 5

1948 Kelloggs Pep

Sam Snead RC 6 (these are super tough, not centered that well but surface problems which plaque this issue is good)

1951 Berk Ross

Ben Hogan 7 A little diamond cut but otherwise very very nice.

I am also sending in 2 complete 1937 Kelloggs Pep Stamp Panels, one with Hagen the other with a Sarzen. I have NO IDEA how psa grades these bad boys, but they sure have not graded many of them period.

I will let you know how it turns out. Hopefully I am being the grader of death to myself on these. Wish me luck!

Dave

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

I'd be estatic with those "conservative" grades alone. I'm sure you will fare better with several of them. I'm especially interested in the 1927 Churchman Large and two 1900 Copes cards. Great job on uncovering those babies. Please keep us posted on the results. With the 5 day grading, the grades will be back in no time.

Vintagegolfcollector

Jason,

Nice cards. Those 1928 Churchmans are so tough to find in any condition. You did well with the 1930 Wills also. Those are beautiful and rarely come up for sale in higher graded. Considering they are over 70 years old and came out of tobacco packs.........amazing.

Nice job.

For anyone who would like to see how the 1928 Large and 1930 Wills look below are some examples.

Enjoy
Peter

Golfcollector

Jason, nice cards! What else did you get back on your recent submission???

HuskerDude15

oddball stuff cheap on eBay;

GolfCards

ENJOY, RB

Golfcollector

Huskerdude,

Where are you from???

Vintagegolfcollector

Nothing new lately but I thought someone might be interested in this 1914 Marsuma rookie card of HOFer Walter Travis. No, the card isn't in great shape but it isn't all that easy to obtain either. Also, I noticed a new collector to the World Golf Hall of Fame Registry. Nice start Brian and welcome aboard. I hope you enjoy this diverse and wonderful set.

Peter

Golfcollector

Just got the small vintage submission back. Here is the breakdown I again listed what I predicted along with the grade that I actually received. These were just posted today, so I have not seen the cards yet.

I am obviously excited about the large size Jones and Hagen. The small jones graded an 8 is also a nice bonus.

The snead RC being OC is too bad. Does anyone know if PSA will downgrade one grade and remove the OC designation?

THe Hogan Berk Ross is for sale if anyone is looking for one!!!

The Copes were a pleasant suprise. I have 48 more to submit from the set and most are nicer!!!

Let me know what you think. More going to CA in a couple of days!!!


Dave

1927 Churchman Large Series #1 set.
Card My rough grade prediction
#1 John Ball - 5 Actual Grade PSA 5
#2 James Braid 6 Actual Grade PSA 7
#3 George Duncan 6-7 Actual Grade PSA 7
#4 Walter Hagen 6-7 (this one has a printing smudge on the left border so not sure) Actual Grade PSA 7
#5 Alex Herd 6 Actual Grade PSA 5
#6 Holderness 6 Actual Grade PSA 6
#7 Bobby Jones 7 (looks nicer than the two 6's I have owned) Actual Grade PSA 7
#8 Abe Mitchell 7 Actual Grade PSA 7
#9 Ed Ray 7 Actual Grade PSA 7
#10 J H Taylor 7 Actual Grade PSA 8
#11 Harry Vardon 6 Actual Grade PSA 6
#12 Wethered 5 Actual Grade PSA 5

1927 Small Series

#13 Walter Hagen 6 Actual Grade PSA 7
#14 Walter Hagen 7 Actual Grade PSA 8
#27 Bobby Jones 7 Actual Grade PSA 6
#28 Bobby Jones 7 Actual Grade PSA 8

1900 Copes Golfers

Old Tom Morris 5 Actual Grade PSA 7 WOWIE
Tom Morris JNR 5 Actual Grade PSA 6

1948 Kelloggs Pep

Sam Snead RC 6 (these are super tough, not centered that well but surface problems which plaque this issue is good) Actual Grade PSA 8OC

1951 Berk Ross

Ben Hogan 7 A little diamond cut but otherwise very very nice. Actual Grade PSA 7

I am also sending in 2 complete 1937 Kelloggs Pep Stamp Panels, one with Hagen (Actual Grade PSA 5) the other with a Sarzen. (Actual Grade PSA 4) I have NO IDEA how psa grades these bad boys, but they sure have not graded many of them period.

BostonBrian

Can you tell who the new guy is??? Seems I am message board challenged. I decided to start on the World Golf Hall fo Fame set. Boy, do I have a long way to go. Thanks for the great thread and with any luck I will learn to use this board properly.

BostonBrian

The question was asked "Does anyone know if PSA will downgrade one grade and remove the OC designation?" I have not seen that done by PSA in the past, but is a great question. I too would be curious if anyone else has a different answer.

Vintagegolfcollector

Congratulations Dave. Those grades are outstanding. From the scans, I thought some of the 1900 Copes had a shot at PSA 7. Still, unbelievable. If you decide to trade any of your extra 1927 Churchman large, let me know. I'm definitely interested in your Hagen and maybe some of the others.

So, what's next to be sent to PSA? I'm definitely interested in the 1923 Copes and 1928 Churchman large. I'm sure you're ready to send in the rest of the 1900 Copes too.

Great job. I can't wait to see the scans.

Peter

Vintagegolfcollector

No grades from PSA yet but I've put together a couple of submissions to mail this weekend. An unbelievable set of 1959 Top Flight Stars I purchased from Mike Dobrynio (Check out his # 1 Bobby Jones player set, awesome indeed.) and some 1914 Marsumas Golf Strokes. The 1959 set should grade mostly PSA 9 with some PSA 8s and possibly some PSA 10s. The Marsumas range from PSA 4 to PSA 7 with an outside chance at a PSA 8. Both submissions will be on 45 day teers.

Peter

CardHunter

Golfcollector

It took awhile but they are finally back from registered mail. Enjoy the scans!

TWINRON

HELLO GOLFERS

Golfcollector

Ron, did you get your churchman grades back yet???

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

Nice scans. I've been out of town for the past week and most of the previous two weeks. I'm still waiting on my grades from my 8/17 submission. It's on a 45 day tier so it could be another month yet. PSA has spoiled me with such quick turnaround time recently that I forgot how long it can take to get my grades. Have you sent in any additional cards? I anxious to see how the 1923 Copes do.

Regards,
Peter

TWINRON

AND I am also waiting for my 8/22/05 submission. The only reason that I can think of is that all 40 cards are PSA10's and need me to increase the insurance.

Vintagegolfcollector

<< <i>AND I am also waiting for my 8/22/05 submission. The only reason that I can think of is that all 40 cards are PSA10's and need me to increase the insurance. >>

Golfcollector

Ron you can only hope!

I am sending off about another 70 cards on Monday, a mix of 31, 27 churchmans and 1900 and 23 copes. + a few other odds and ends.

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

Good luck with the submission. I hope to have some 1931 and 1927 Churchman smalls graded soon that you can use.

Peter

Golfcollector

Well sold the Hogan Berk Ross PSA 7 and the Sarazen Pep Panel on ebay. The Hogan went for $256 ( about what I was hoping although I thought it might get snipe bid lucky at the end) and the Sarzazen also did well. Doubled my money on initial investment. I still have a Hagen Pep panel with Leo Durocher on it as well but guessing it could go for a lot more.

JW

Dave,
I think you did well on the Sarazen Pep. I thought I had a good chance at getting it for around $125 but I was a little off.
Jason

Vintagegolfcollector

No grades yet on my 8/17 submission, maybe next week???

I did get my grades back on my 1950's Special from 9/14.

1959 Top Flights Stars

# 3 Peter Thompson PSA 9

# 15 Ben Hogan PSA 9

# 11 Sugar Ray Robinson PSA 10

Not one of my favorite sets, but I needed the Thompson rookie for my HOF set. Besides, any time I can get PSA 8, 9, and 10s from a 40+ year old set it's special. I will post some pics once they arrive from PSA.

Peter

Golfcollector

Peter can you post some scans, would love to see the hOgan 9

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

I hope to get some scans up this weekend. Still waiting on the 8/17 submission. The 45 days are just about up.

Peter

Golfcollector

Well just sent in 142 cards to PSA for grading today (not cheap) Sent most on the 5 day CC special as trying to get in under the deadline for the Registry awards. Also sent all the commons from a 1931 set in on a 45 day invoice. Will keep you posted when I receive the grades./

Dave

Golfcollector

Fed Ex shipment has made it. Trying to get them in under the gun for the set registry awards, this is as nervous as I have ever been sending cards to PSA. Having $15k in transit will get your blood pumping!

I am hoping for a lot of 7's and 8's on this submission. I will have completely graded sets of 1900 Copes and 1923 Copes after these get graded. SO far I just sent in the Tom Morris SNR and JNR and got back some nice grades. You can see the pics earlier in this post.

Wish me luck, I look forward to sharing scans when I get some back.

By the way if anyone has a PSA 9 Ray Floyd 1981 Donruss, or any PSA GSV golf cards that would help me on the World Golf Hall of Fame set registry, let me know. I can send immediate paypal payment.

Dave

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

Good luck on those large submissions. The Patty Berg was mailed to you today from Charlotte. Once you receive it just send me what you think it's worth. Good luck with the World Golf Hall of Fames set. It's fun collecting such an interesting array of cards for one set. Great idea.

Catch you later.

Peter

Vintagegolfcollector

Well,

No grades yet on my 45 day 8/17 or 9/14 submissions. PSA must be swamped with last minute submissions. My first sub needs to be done by Friday to make the deadline by my calculations. I will probably hold off on any additional submissions until I get my last two back.

If anyone has unearthed a nice collection lately or made a nice purchase please share.

Happy collecting,

Peter

Golfcollector

Well the 72 card submission is done and on line. I am too excited to even cut and paste results for now. This submission had 40 of the 1900 Copes Golfers, a complete set of 1923 Copes golfers and a lone 1931 small Gene Sarazen. I am waiting for the other 5 day 25 card submisson to get posted on the site today before I put it out here. You hopefully will all be impressed.......

Lets just say I am doing cartwheels right now. More to follow.

Dave

Golfcollector

Does anyone have any 1923 copes Golf Strokes graded in PSA 6 or higher. I am looking for 4 cards in particular. Let me know if you know of anyone who as any of these graded at all. They are really rare.

Dave

Golfcollector

First off, I am apologizing in advance for this long post. But if you like a great story of a once in a lifetime find of cards, this is a good read.

This past year I picked up an amazing collection of early golf cards. If you have checked out my first post on the this thread you may have seen details. 6 complete sets including 3 - of the toughest vintage golf card sets to find period. for near 5 figures. The purchase price isn't important, but I will share later the comparitive graded SMR value.

The collection consisted of the following:

1900 Copes Golfers Complete set of 50
1923 Copes Golf Strokes set of 32
1927 Churchman Famous Golfers Small set of 50
1927 Churchman Famous Golfers Large Series 1 Set of 12
1928 Churchman Famous Golfers Large Series 2 Set of 12
1931 CHurchman Prominent Golfers Small series of 50

First I sent in just the 4 biggies from the 1927 Churchman Small set. 2 Bobby Jones cards and 2 Walter Hagens. I received a 6 and an 8 on the 2 Jones cards, and a 7 and 8 on the two Hagens. I have the #2 set on the registry currently (check out Peter Parkers #1 rated set if you have a chance) I still have 46 "other cards to grade and anticipate many 7 and hopefully a few 8's based on their condition.

I also sent in the 1927 Churchman Large Series 1. This set is very tough and has the Jones and Hagen (both were graded PSA 7's and many others "commons" graded 6 and even 1 psa 8. The set graded out at a GPA of 6.50

On that same invoice I sent in The Old Tom Morris and Tom Morris Jr. from the 1900 Copes set. Old tom garnered a grand ol grade of 7 and young tom a nice psa 6. (these are by FAR the highest of these cards ever graded.)

Last week, I dropped the big money (for me at least) and sent in the remaining 48 cards from the 1900 Copes set and the complete 1932 set. I also sent in the 1928 Churchmans Large series of 12 and The Bobby Jones, Walter Hagen and Gene Sarazen from the 1931 Churchman small set. Here are the invoices:

PSA Order Status for Submission # 581330



1 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 1 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 7
2 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 2 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 7
3 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 3 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 8
4 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 4 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 7
5 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 5 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 7
6 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 6 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 7
7 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 7 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 6
8 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 8 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 8
9 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 9 HARRY VARDON GOLF STROKES 7
10 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 10 ABE MITCHELL GOLF STROKES 7
11 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 11 ABE MITCHELL GOLF STROKES 8
12 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 12 ABE MITCHELL GOLF STROKES 7
13 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 13 ABE MITCHELL GOLF STROKES 8
14 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 14 ABE MITCHELL GOLF STROKES 7
15 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 15 ABE MITCHELL GOLF STROKES 8
16 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 16 ABE MITCHELL GOLF STROKES 7
17 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 17 GEORGE DUNCAN GOLF STROKES 8
18 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 18 GEORGE DUNCAN GOLF STROKES 8
19 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 19 GEORGE DUNCAN GOLF STROKES 8
20 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 20 GEORGE DUNCAN GOLF STROKES 7
21 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 21 GEORGE DUNCAN GOLF STROKES 8
22 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 22 J.H. TAYLOR GOLF STROKES 8
23 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 23 J.H. TAYLOR GOLF STROKES 8
24 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 24 J.H. TAYLOR GOLF STROKES 8
25 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 25 J.H. TAYLOR GOLF STROKES 8
26 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 26 J.H. TAYLOR GOLF STROKES 7
27 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 27 J.H. TAYLOR GOLF STROKES 7
28 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 28 J.H. TAYLOR GOLF STROKES 6
29 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 29 EDWARD RAY GOLF STROKES 8
30 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 30 EDWARD RAY GOLF STROKES 7
31 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 31 EDWARD RAY GOLF STROKES 5
32 1923 COPE BROS. & CO. 32 EDWARD RAY GOLF STROKES 5
33 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 1 A SHORT PUTT COPE'S GOLFERS 5
34 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 3 KEEP YOUR EYE ON... COPE'S GOLFERS 6
35 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 4 SANDY SMITH COPE'S GOLFERS 5
36 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 5 AN ENTHUSIAST COPE'S GOLFERS 7
37 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 6 A DRIVE COPE'S GOLFERS 7
38 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 7 MISSED THE GLOBE COPE'S GOLFERS 7
39 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 8 A.J. BALFOUR COPE'S GOLFERS 8
40 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 9 ANDREW LANG COPE'S GOLFERS 2
41 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 10 A BAD LIE COPE'S GOLFERS 8
42 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 11 OLD SCHOOL COPE'S GOLFERS 8
43 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 13 MR. CRAWFORD COPE'S GOLFERS 6
44 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 14 FIERY MUSSELBURGH COPE'S GOLFERS 8
45 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 15 A STYMIE COPE'S GOLFERS 5
46 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 16 AN ANXIOUS MOMENT COPE'S GOLFERS 8
47 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 17 THE TEE SHOT COPE'S GOLFERS 6
48 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 18 DELIGHTS OF A... COPE'S GOLFERS 7
49 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 19 CHARLES I. COPE'S GOLFERS 8
50 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 23 A DUFFER'S STROKE COPE'S GOLFERS 6
51 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 28 PROFESSOR TAIT COPE'S GOLFERS 7
52 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 29 THE "MASHIE" COPE'S GOLFERS 6
53 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 30 NEW WOMAN COPE'S GOLFERS 5
54 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 31 THE DUFFER COPE'S GOLFERS 8
55 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 32 LADY MARGARET SCOTT COPE'S GOLFERS 7
56 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 33 MacFOOZLE COPE'S GOLFERS 7
57 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 34 DORMY COPE'S GOLFERS 7
58 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 35 A NOVICE COPE'S GOLFERS 7
59 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 36 THE MYSTERY OF... COPE'S GOLFERS 7
60 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 37 A LONG PUTT COPE'S GOLFERS 6
61 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 39 AGRICULTURE COPE'S GOLFERS 6
62 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 40 THE GRACES OF GOLF COPE'S GOLFERS 8
63 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 41 THE BRASSEY COPE'S GOLFERS 8
64 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 42 THE PARISH MINISTER COPE'S GOLFERS 7
65 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 43 FORE-WAR CRY... COPE'S GOLFERS 7
66 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 44 THE PARSON COPE'S GOLFERS 7
67 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 45 ELEGANCIES OF GOLF COPE'S GOLFERS 7
68 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 47 DUFFERS YET COPE'S GOLFERS 8
69 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 48 A LONG SPOON COPE'S GOLFERS 7
70 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 49 LORD S. DARLING COPE'S GOLFERS 6
71 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 50 LOST BALL COPE'S GOLFERS 5
72 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 35 E. SARAZEN PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMAL

And submission #2

1 1935 MITCHELL & SON 30 W. LAWSON LITTLE GALLERY OF 1934 7
2 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 16 WALTER HAGEN PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 8
4 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 25 BOBBY JONES PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 8
5 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 1 JAMES BARNES FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 5
6 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 2 AUBREY BOOMER FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 6
7 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 3 ARCHIE COMPSTON FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 7
8 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 4 GEORGE GADD FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 8
9 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 5 A.G. HAVERS FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 7
10 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 6 H.C. JOLLY FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 7
11 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 7 ARNAUD MASSY FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 5
12 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 8 TOM MORRIS FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 7
13 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 9 ALEXANDER SIMPSON FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 6
14 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 10 JESS SWEETSER FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 6
15 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 11 CYRIL TOLLEY FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 6
16 1928 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 12 ERNEST WHITCOMBE FAMOUS GOLFERS SER.OF 12 7
16 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 12 ALLAN ROBERTSON COPE'S GOLFERS 7
17 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 20 F.G. TAIT COPE'S GOLFERS 6
18 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 21 H.G. HUTCHINSON COPE'S GOLFERS 8
19 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 22 J.H. TAYLOR COPE'S GOLFERS 8
20 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 24 HAROLD HILTON COPE'S GOLFERS 5
21 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 25 J. BALL COPE'S GOLFERS 5
22 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 27 J.E. LAIDLAY COPE'S GOLFERS 6
23 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 38 JOHN TAYLOR COPE'S GOLFERS 7
24 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 46 ALEX HERD COPE'S GOLFERS 8


The 1900 Copes set is by far the most valuable and rare golf card set ever produced. I have not inputed the grades yet but if my math is correct my GPA will be at or above 6.25 range. Pretty remarkable for almost non-exsistent 105 year old cards.

The 1923 Copes 2nd will be the 2nd all time finest registerd by a whopping 1 grade (1st 7.28 - mine 7.25) As we all occasionaly feel a card or two in this set may be a bit undergraded as I was a little suprised I did not receive one psa 9 and I thought I has 4 or 5 with a legitimate shot at that grade.

I still have 93 cards from two set to submit, and already I could not be happier!

This is definately my FIND of a lifetime.

Hope to have the sets entered on the registry and scans added soon

Dave

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

Those two Copes sets are outstanding. I know you had some misgivings on dropping the cash but you definitely made out like a bandit in the end. Way to go. I can't wait for the images.

It will take some find or a number of finds to come close to your 1900 set and you are soooooo close on the 1923 set. I would be interested in some of those 1923 upgrades. Those are some of my favorite vintage pictures.

As always, thanks for sharing you collection and passion.

Regards,
Peter

Golfcollector

Kudos to the PSA folks in updating the golf card pricing on the site. If you guys have not checked it out there are a lot of updates to the vintage golf cards. The old golf market has been on fire lately and does not appear to be slowing down anytime soon. An ungraded 1901 Copes Tom Morris sold for $500+ the other day as well as an ungraded Sam Snead pulling over $325. wow.

TWINRON

Peter, Dave and Jason- My grades FINALLY came in:


PSA Order Status for Submission # 4319130


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 31232621 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 1 JOHN BALL FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
2 31232622 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 2 JOHN BALL FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
3 31232623 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 3 JAMES BARNES FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
4 31232624 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 4 AUBREY BASIL BOOMER FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
5 31232625 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 5 AUBREY BASIL BOOMER FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
6 31232626 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 6 JAMES BRAID FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
7 31232627 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 7 JAMES BRAID FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
8 31232628 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 8 ARCHIE COMPSTON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
9 31232629 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 9 GEORGE DUNCAN FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 9
10 31232630 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 11 GEORGE GADD FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
11 31232631 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 12 GEORGE GADD FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
12 31232632 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 16 ARTHUR HAVERS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 5
13 31232633 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 17 ARTHUR HAVERS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
14 31232634 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 19 ALEXANDER HERD FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
15 31232635 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 20 ALEXANDER HERD FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
16 31232636 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 21 HAROLD H. HILTON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
17 31232637 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 22 E.W.E. HOLDERNESS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
18 31232638 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 23 LEN HOLLAND FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
19 31232639 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 24 WILLIAM HUNTER FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
20 31232640 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 25 JOCK HUTCHISON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
21 31232641 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 29 FRED LEACH FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
22 31232642 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 32 ABE MITCHELL FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
23 31232643 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 33 TOM MORRIS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
24 31232644 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 34 EDWARD RAY FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
25 31232645 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 35 EDWARD RAY FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
26 31232646 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 36 FREDRICK ROBSON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 4
27 31232647 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 37 BEN SAYERS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
28 31232648 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 38 A.F. SIMPSON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 6
29 31232649 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 39 JESS SWEETSER FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 9
30 31232650 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 40 FREDERICK G. TAIT FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
31 31232651 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 41 J.H. TAYLOR FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
32 31232652 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 42 J.H. TAYLOR FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
33 31232653 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 43 C.J.H. TOLLEY FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
34 31232654 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 44 HARRY VARDON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
35 31232655 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 45 HARRY VARDON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 5
36 31232656 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 46 HARRY VARDON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 6
37 31232657 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 47 HARRY VARDON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
38 31232658 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 48 ROGER H. WETHERED FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
39 31232659 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 49 ROGER H. WETHERED FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
40 31232660 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 50 E.R. WHITCOMBE FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7

Date Received: 08/22/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 10/25/2005
Date Shipped: 10/25/2005

JW

Ron,
Those are some nice grades. I see you were even able to mix in a few PSA 9's and a PSA 8 Tom Morris. Good job!
Jason

Vintagegolfcollector

Ron,

Nice going with your sub. I just picked up my cards today, here are the results.

PSA Order Status for Submission # 577337


LINE # CERT # CARD CARD CO. CARD # CARD NAME VARIETY GRADE
1 12322319 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 6 JAMES BRAID FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
2 12322320 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 7 JAMES BRAID FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
3 12322321 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 10 GEORGE DUNCAN FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
4 12322322 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 11 GEORGE GADD FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
5 12322323 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 15 ROBERT HARRIS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
6 12322324 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 16 ARTHUR HAVERS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
7 12322325 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 17 ARTHUR HAVERS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
8 12322326 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 18 ALEXANDER HERD FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
9 12322327 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 20 ALEXANDER HERD FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
10 12322328 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 21 HAROLD H. HILTON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
11 12322329 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 22 E.W.E. HOLDERNESS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
12 12322330 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 29 FRED LEACH FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
13 12322331 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 34 EDWARD RAY FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 9
14 12322332 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 39 JESS SWEETSER FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
15 12322333 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 43 C.J.H. TOLLEY FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
16 12322334 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 4 AUBREY BASIL BOOMER FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
17 12322335 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 4 AUBREY BASIL BOOMER FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
18 12322336 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 24 WILLIAM HUNTER FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 6
19 12322337 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 30 ARNAUD MASSY FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
20 12322338 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 31 ABE MITCHELL FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
21 12322339 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 36 FREDRICK ROBSON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 8
22 12322340 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 37 BEN SAYERS FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
23 12322341 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 46 HARRY VARDON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
24 12322342 1927 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 47 HARRY VARDON FAMOUS GOLFERS-SMALL 7
25 12322343 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 9 T.H. COTTON PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 8
26 12322344 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 1 PERCY ALLISS PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 7
27 12322345 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 27 J. KIRKWOOD PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 6
28 12322346 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 38 J.A. STOUT PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 7
29 12322347 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 3 AUBREY BOOMER PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 6
30 12322348 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 47 C.A. WHITCOMBE PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 7
31 12322349 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 13 J. FARRELL PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 6
32 12322350 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 36 HORTON SMITH PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 7
33 12322351 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 9 T.H. COTTON PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 6
34 12322352 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 41 T.A. TORRANCE PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 7
35 12322353 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 44 AL. WATROUS PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 8
36 12322354 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 40 C.J.H. TOLLEY PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 8
37 12322355 1931 WA&AC CHURCHMAN 32 T.P. PERKINS PROMINENT GOLFERS-SMALL 8
38 12322356 1900 COPE BROS. & CO. 29 THE "MASHIE" COPE'S GOLFERS 6

Date Received: 08/17/2005
Date of Grades Posted: 10/20/2005
Date Shipped: 10/20/2005


I have one submission still at PSA, mainly 1931 Churchmans with a few Marsumas.

Happy collecting.

Peter

Vintagegolfcollector

Dave,

Fantastic 1900 Cope's set. I don't see that one being matched any time soon. Glad you got the Wheaties card. You should get the others this weekend. I should have some 1927 and 1931 Churchman cards ready for trade once I get a chance to go though what I have. If you have any interest let me know. I could use your Cope's of Hagen duplicates.

Regards,
Peter