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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    I'm going to check on mine to see which "variations" I have.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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    mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,130 ✭✭
    Don't forget about the Dan McGinn. Most examples I've seen do not have a complete arc across the top in the border. However, I've seen quite a few examples of a normal/complete border as well. I think it falls more in the category of "interesting anomaly' rather than a true variation.

    Mike
    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
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    jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    raw mckinney, no line

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    Not wanting to throw and damper on the crowd. I believe that you will only be able to use PSA recognized variations. If they have a large batch of cards already graded without denoting the variation, you may not be able to get the variety attirbutted. Have had some difficulties with this on FB.
    Good Luck,
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
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    If anybody's got any PSA 7, 8 or 9 Green Letter variations to sell, let me know.
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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not wanting to throw and damper on the crowd. I believe that you will only be able to use PSA recognized variations. If they have a large batch of cards already graded without denoting the variation, you may not be able to get the variety attirbutted. Have had some difficulties with this on FB.
    Good Luck,
    Fuzz >>



    Well, I may be wrong but I do not think that there is any real interest in have a master set on the registry. There just isn't enough variations in the set to make it worthwhile.

    Many of the hard core set collectors ( myself included) are getting the variations anyway.

    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    I've picked up most of the 'true' variations with the letter differences (green vs yellow) and one of the checklist variations. But these 'line or no line' are ones that I would not go after. Those seem to be more print defects as someone mentioned earlier as opposed to an actual variation of a card.

    But, that's just my opinion. And, as we all know, opinions are like....well, you get the point image
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    .................at any price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    That just seems wrong. Bill is really after these things at any cost it seems.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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    That's a pretty tough 9, "back in the day" it was as tough the Kendall in PSA 8. The price really wasn't that crazy compared to some of the 8's Bill won in the past month or so.
    Whoever said we wash away with the rain ?
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    FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    Glad I got that one as a submission several years back. Three years ago - I had 37 different 1/1's in PSA 9 in the set. Now the only one I have left is the McRae IA. Like Doritos used to say "Munch away! We'll make more!"

    Frank
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
    outerbankyank on eBay!
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    just a wondering what do you store your sets in? are there boxes made to hold thr psa graded cards or should i just keep nailing them to my wall (hard on the plastic cases} but at least i can look at them. dmimage
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    FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    I actually have my sets in Copier Paper Boxes that have been cut down to the height of the PSA Holder. Each box holds about 260 cards and they hold up pretty well. But in order to keep them protected from fire and Mike Castaldi, I have a pretty big honkin gun safe that I use. image Guns out - cards in...

    I think that I've heard others on this forum going the same route for larger sets.

    Frank
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
    outerbankyank on eBay!
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    << <i>....or should i just keep nailing them to my wall (hard on the plastic cases} but at least i can look at them. dmimage >>



    And I thought I was the only one, I keep my PSA cards on the wall opposite my duck collection.
    Whoever said we wash away with the rain ?
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    I keep mine in the standard two-row card box often referred to as a "shoebox." Holds about 140-150 slabbed cards. I've got each series in its own box.
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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    I keep mine in the MJ Roop boxes. Little expensive, but does the trick.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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    I built a box for my '72 set out of red oak plywood. I has six rows (one for each series) that hold 132 cards each with a little extra room to flip through them. It's pretty big, bit it shows the cards well.
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    << <i>I keep mine in the MJ Roop boxes. Little expensive, but does the trick. >>



    Damn, Arny's a high roller!image

    I got a redemption card for a free MJ Roop Binder for the 2005 Bowman Heritage baseball set and I gotta admit, it is the sweetest binder in the world! As the Trapper Keeper was to the standard ntebook, the MJ Roop binder is to the standard D-Ring binder. Of course, the regular price is so ridiculously high that I'd never have bought it if I hadn't got it for free! Actually, I paid $3 to buy the redemption card and then sent it in to get a $30 binder. If you like to keep your cards in Binders, and don't mind that the Binder has "2005 Bowman Heritage" stamped on it, this is a great way to to get them on the cheap!
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    gemintgemint Posts: 6,075 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Amazing hammer price on the Durocher. I wasn't planning on selling mine but first $10k offer takes it! image

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    mcastaldimcastaldi Posts: 1,130 ✭✭
    Awww c'mon Frank. . .I only want some of the 72s. . .

    Seriously, it's such a grind to do a set that big. . .it's just not for me anymore. I am doing a PSA-graded set tho - 1980 BK Pitch Hit & Run. Pretty much got most of the stuff situated in the new house, tho the home office is a mess and I have a ton of home projects to do. Slowly, I'm getting back to cards.

    Mike
    So full of action, my name should be a verb.
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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Yeah, the '72 low pops have been going through the roof lately. Mainly due to two individuals willing to pay $1 higher than 'up the ying yang' to obtain these cards. I just hope that these bidders don't put any additional sets together so that I can finally finish my set! image

    The good news is that I was able to pick up the Terry Harmon PSA 8 card for a "decent" price finally and am now sitting a hair below 99% complete! Here's my updated want/need list....

    #40 - Bob Barton IA
    #150 - Norm Cash (Have a PSA 7)
    #228 - WS Game 6 (Have a PSA 7)
    #230 - World Series (Have a PSA 7)
    #292 - Hal McRae IA
    #296 - Dick Dietz IA
    #532 - Fred Kendall (Have a PSA 9oc)
    #533 - Ralph Houk (Have a PSA 7)
    #582 - Montreal Expos Team Card (Have a PSA 7)
    #666 - Hector Torres (Have a PSA 7)
    #670 - Ken Holtzman (Have a PSA 7)
    #708 - Tim Foli IA
    #720 - Sam McDowell
    #723 - Al Santorini
    #734 - Bob Burda
    #787 - Ron Reed

    .....so, if anyone has any to help me...send me a PM or post here! image
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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    Crazy...

    Glad I don't care about PSA 10's. I noticed that I can see all of the high bidders bid amounts, that doesn't usually happen without a reserve in place, does it?
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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Crazy...

    Glad I don't care about PSA 10's. I noticed that I can see all of the high bidders bid amounts, that doesn't usually happen without a reserve in place, does it? >>



    Although it now longer shows...there must have been a reserve........EBAY auctions used to say "reserve met'...
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    I don't know which is more surprising... that the seller put a $1700 reserve on this card, that someone was willing to pay it or that the high bidder isn't Greg or Bill.
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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    Congrats to Chris, the owner of the "1972 Childhood Memories" set, who outbid me on the #230 card this evening.............He will now go to 100% complete on his set......image
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Woo hoo! Picked up the Ralph Houk PSA 8 for $56! Looks like Bill took the night off. image

    Here's my updated want/need list.....

    #40 - Bob Barton IA
    #150 - Norm Cash (Have a PSA 7)
    #228 - WS Game 6 (Have a PSA 7)
    #230 - World Series (Have a PSA 7)
    #292 - Hal McRae IA
    #296 - Dick Dietz IA
    #532 - Fred Kendall (Have a PSA 9oc)
    #582 - Montreal Expos Team Card (Have a PSA 7)
    #666 - Hector Torres (Have a PSA 7)
    #670 - Ken Holtzman (Have a PSA 7)
    #708 - Tim Foli IA
    #720 - Sam McDowell
    #723 - Al Santorini
    #734 - Bob Burda
    #787 - Ron Reed

    .....so, if anyone has any to help me...send me a PM or post here!
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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    Nice deal Arny, Bill already has two Houks... I guess he likes you. I paid 189.00 bucks for two Gardners that were run up courtesy of Bill, he also has two of them . It's ok though, there are cards that he will pay dearly for .

    Whoever said we wash away with the rain ?
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    Started to put in a bid on that Houk but noticed you were the high bidder, Arny. I got a raw one anyway that should 8. I made an off ebay deal for some super nice tough commons like Houk, Baker, Henderson, and Reds RCs. The Henderson is all but a lock for a 9. Any idea what a Henderson in 9 would fetch right now with all the crazy bidding thats been going on?
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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    We talk about the low pop cards having newly graded examples showing up. Since Novenber of last year for instance there have been:

    6 Gardners - 5- 8's and one 9

    11 Schaal IA - 10 8's and one better

    11 Harrelson BH - 10 8's and one better

    6 Foli IA - 4 8's and two better

    5 Harmon - All 8's

    5 Blue IA - 4 8's and one better

    5 Dave marshall - All 8's

    8 Reds Rookies - 7 8's and one 9

    5 Henderson - 4 8's and one better

    Yet there has been only:

    1 Grote 8

    1 McRae IA 8

    0 Dietz IA ( since before August 2005)

    and finally the Kendall card has had only TWO newly graded since June of 2004 - both 8's

    Of the 17 Kendall cards out there in PSA 8 or better 12 of them show up in the set registry. ( including one from the David Barkis recently sold set and one from Eric Jarvi's retired set which I believe he still owns)

    Some of the other 5 available Kendall cards are probably in such non-PSA registered sets such as yorklvh, glibisher, and maybe psuinnyc.

    .......my trivial trivia for the day.........




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    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    A Harrelson sold for 15.50 yesterday and it looks nicer than the one I paid 100 bucks for.

    The Schaal has really expolded but of the one's I've seen recently including the one I have are pitiful looking 8's. Yorklvh has the nicest one I have ever seen.....image

    What if those "missing" kendall's are crackouts.....? image

    Any Kendall , Dietz, or Mcrae is going to be huuuuuuge.
    Whoever said we wash away with the rain ?
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    OK... two guys bid over $2200 for the 1/1 PSA 10 Dave Kingman and two others bid over $1750! I wonder how much Frank Bakka had to pay for his 1/1's when he built his set.

    Personally, I can't justify spending that kind of money on a baseball card, but if i did, I think I would spend it on something with the Word "Mantle" on it or on a high-grade HOF Rookie card.

    I'm curious to see what the 1/1 PSA 10 Rick Wise IA goes for in an hour or so.
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    Dmitri Young must have really wanted that one.
    Whoever said we wash away with the rain ?
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    gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    lostdart,
    All the Vida Blue IA were mine from my last submission. Want one?
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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>lostdart,
    All the Vida Blue IA were mine from my last submission. Want one? >>



    Thanks.........but i am not in need of one....image

    I need cards #182, 230, 296, 312, 518, and 582..............I don't suppose you have any of those in PSA 8 or better?

    Jami
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    Is 230 a WS card? If so I might have raw. I have a bunch of the WS cards somewhere.
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    I'm looking for WS cards #224 and 228 in psa 8 or better if you have them.
    Ken
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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    Gaspipe,

    As far as the World Series cards go, the 228, and 230 cards are low pop........224 is semi-low pop. the rest are fairly plentiful and easy to find.

    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    I have a bunch (few hundred) I'll see if I can find them this weekend.
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    FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    Joe,

    I can pretty safely state that I didn't pay a total of $2200 for all 37 1/1 PSA 9's that I had in my set when I first completed it. About half, I submitted myself and the other half I bought mostly from Steve Pekovich. I saw the Kingman going long - so I killed my snipe bid for $275 (figuring the odds were slim that everyone else would bail before it closed...)

    Frank
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
    outerbankyank on eBay!
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    Finally got around to registering my set. It debuts at #50 with a loooong way to go!
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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    Jason,

    Welcome back.......image

    Its a good start.....i see you got a bunch of the HOFers out of the way.
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    Thanks, Jami. I tried to get as mant HOFers up front as I could afford. Plus I got a stack of raw stars and low pops that should all pull 8s or 9s. Just waiting for the next special. $13 per card is kind of steep.
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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭
    The $5 special is usually every other month.........
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    Jason, how fast or slow are you going to build the set? There are a lot of good deals on PSA 8s and lots of 9s for high pop stuff out there. Just curious.
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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    ArnyVeeArnyVee Posts: 4,246
    What do you guys think of that PSA 9 N.Cash out there?

    PSA 9 Norm Cash
    * '72 BASEBALL #15 100%
    * C. PASCUAL BASIC #3
    * T. PEREZ BASIC #4 100%
    * L. TIANT BASIC #1
    * DRYSDALE BASIC #4 100%
    * MAGIC MASTER #4/BASIC #3
    * PALMEIRO MASTER/BASIC #1
    * '65 DISNEYLAND #2
    * '78 ELVIS PRESLEY #6
    * '78 THREE'S COMPANY #1

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    lostdart58lostdart58 Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What do you guys think of that PSA 9 N.Cash out there?

    PSA 9 Norm Cash >>



    Frank B needs one, as does Larry Meyer...............................The centering is questionable for a PSA 9.
    Collector of:Baseball
    1955 Bowman Raw complete with 90% Ex-NR or better

    Now seeking 1949 Eureka Sportstamps...NM condition
    Working on '78 Autographed set now 99.9% complete -
    Working on '89 Topps autoed set now complete


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    I think it's going to go for a lot of money.
    Whoever said we wash away with the rain ?
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    Arny. I'm going to build as fast as my finances will allow. I started with a bang buying stuff left and right but I'm probably gonna slow down a bit now unless an unbelievable deal presents itself. I've had pretty good luck finding super high quality raw cards lately so alot of my set may come from submissions. I've got a Henderson, Dietz IA, and a Mays IA that may all pull 9s. If any/all of them do, they will definitely hit ebay with the proceeds helping to further my set.
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    FBFB Posts: 1,684 ✭✭
    Smart move Jason,

    If you're not emotionally whetted to having the 9 in your set - definitely sell off to fill 10, 20, 30 (or more) holes. On only very few occasions might that be a bad deal. Good luck!

    Frank
    Frank Bakka
    Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
    Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!

    lynnfrank@earthlink.net
    outerbankyank on eBay!
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    Just got in a raw 50 card lot from ebay and I got a MINT, DEAD-CENTERED McRae IA!!!!!! This could very likely be the second nine! Just wanted to share with everyone.
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