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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Im a lil confused. PASGold10 is wax from the past? that buyer left glowing pos feedback.????????
    Good for you.
  • CDsNutsCDsNuts Posts: 10,092
    Ryan,
    Can you turn on your private messages? I'd like to ask about product availability. Thanks.

    Lee
  • Steve D,
    Hello. Yes, one of our User ID's is psa10gold. About two weeks ago, I left positive feedback for nedsk because we received one of the nicest 1958 FB packs that we've ever had. I stated this in one of our previous posts. We're still waiting on the 1958 Baseball pack to arrive though. Thanks. -Ryan

    Wax From The Past
    Ryan Rutter
    Cleveland, OH
    (614)946-4000
    PSA Authorized Dealer
    GAI Authorized Dealer
    waxfromthepast.com
    EBay User ID's: waxfromthepast, psa10gold
    Wax From The Past
    Ryan Rutter
    Owner
    Cleveland, OH
    (614)946-4000

    Global Authentication INC.
    Ryan Rutter
    MASTER Authenticator Of Unopened
    Irvine, CA
    (949)474-1557

    GAI Authorized Dealer
    PSA Authorized Dealer

    Sports Collectors Digest 13 Year Perfect Customer Service Award
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's getting ugly:

    MAY 31ST IT'S NEEN 3 WEEKS I HAVE MADE A THEFT REPORT YOUR LOCAL POLICE U DONE!
    Buyer coinjerk (private) Jun-16-05 17:09 3977313361


    WHERE ARE MY COINS DO NOT TRUST THIS GUY CASH CHECKS AND NEVER E-MAILS YOU BACK
    Buyer coinjerk (private) Jun-16-05 17:06 3976752978


    BEWARE THE WORST SERVICE ON E-BAY THIS GUY DON'T CARE ABOUT BUYER'S TAKE HIS
    Buyer lpcoinsale ( 3 ) Jun-15-05 20:37 3976752539


    Item purchased was as advertised. Easy to do business with!!
    Buyer vipermatic ( 8 ) Jun-15-05 17:59 5976655046


    He cashed my check 6/13 and files an unpaid item dispute 6/14!!!Lying Thief!!!!
    Buyer simocris ( 401) Jun-15-05 11:01 3978198949


    great ebayer
    Buyer spankees ( 16) Jun-11-05 11:58 3978389069


    quock delivery
    Buyer spankees ( 16) Jun-11-05 11:58 3978382113


    great e bayer
    Buyer spankees ( 16) Jun-11-05 11:57 3978382447


    coins sent quick and good doing buisness with
    Buyer spankees ( 16) Jun-11-05 11:54 3978382638


    Great to work with - quick turnaround
    Buyer wallstreet720 ( 6 ) Jun-10-05 13:52 5197597327


    **BUYERS BEWARE*UNOPENED WAX BOX I RECEIVED TAMPERED WITH! I WAS REFUSED REFUND!
    Buyer tallanbuynsell ( 306) Jun-10-05 09:17 5197594969
    Reply by nedsk: Box was untampered with and buyer is unaware as to real unopened material. Jun-13-05 12:57
  • MiniMasterMiniMaster Posts: 505 ✭✭
    With no more items up for auction on ebay by nedsk (Ned Kerstetter) 151 Mt. Zion Rd. Carlisle, PA 17013. I'm sad to say the negative feedback will no doubt continue.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭
    of course, with the exception of the 1 neg feedback left by a member of this board, the other negs don't come from very respectable looking eBay accounts..
    ·p_A·
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭
    PA,

    Only coinjerk has bad feedback. So 2 out of 4 negs are from "respectable looking eBay accounts" Hey a guy with a feedback of 8 left him a postive, another one with a feedback of 8, and another with 16 feedback left positives. A guess we should throw them out. I wonder who we should believe?
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>PA,

    Only coinjerk has bad feedback. So 2 out of 4 negs are from "respectable looking eBay accounts" Hey a guy with a feedback of 8 left him a postive, another one with a feedback of 8, and another with 16 feedback left positives. A guess we should throw them out. I wonder who we should believe? >>



    you're correct.. i noticed (after the fact) that the guy with 3 feedback has quite a few more than 3 purchases..
    ·p_A·
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭
    I propose that we officially change the seller's name to "NARUnedsk." image

    Later after someone gets ahold of him we may have to call him "deadnedsk." image

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks as though the scammer does also deal in computers as was previously noted by a poster. I certainly wouldn't want to buy a computer off of this guy - LOL

    Computer Barn
    151 Mount Zion Road, Carlisle, PA 17013
    Tel: (717) 258-9663
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I am positive Ned will have a reasonable explanation to all this.

    <rolling my eyes>

    Good for you.
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    I started reading these righteous boards a year ago, is the notorious image's $20k the biggest card-related payoff scheme or is it the biggest?

    Just wondering for my own historical perspectives...

    TGIF
    Julen

    ______
    Collecting:

    1980 Topps: Over 4,000 cards from vending and wax boxes awaiting a giant bonfire
    1969 Topps: #11 1969 Topps Master '69 Master #11
    1987 Kraft Dinners Home Plate Heroes
    image
    RIP GURU
  • MiniMasterMiniMaster Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Well I just received an e-mail from Steve Hart regarding the 'nedsk' 75 Mini Wax Packs. They are indeed resealed packs. Steve confirmed they were glued shut. Of course I already knew they were reseals when I found the wax stained card in the middle of several packs! Not to mention the cards didn't have the pack fresh look to them. Also, I didn't find a single wax stain on a card touching the wax side of the packs? I don't believe that is likely to happen? At any rate, that should clear up most of the skeptics out there. I'm sure Ryan will relay the same message regarding the packs I sent him. Question know is, will ebay do anything about this guy scamming people?

    Well at least I was able to warn approx. 15-20 people before the close of his auctions. A few of them had either high bids at the time they e-mailed me or had actually won auction items and had not yet paid him. One person was able to stop pay his check....lol. Another had purchases that exceeded $5,000. Ebay should remove the negative feedback he gave me. Very pathetic this nedsk. He scams me and then ruined my perfect feedback rating? That's the one thing about ebay that makes no sense? Why let retaliatory feedback stand if one side can prove the feedback is retaliatory? Do any members out there believe it's time to call nedsk's local police and file a complaint? Being the US Mail was used by nedsk on this transaction.....couldn't he be on the hook for mail fraud as well?

  • MiniMaster unfortunately I don't see how you could prove (to the police, ebay or anybody else) that he committed fraud. All he has to say is that the resealed packs weren't the same packs that he sent to you.
  • zef204zef204 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭
    kunt- you are one of the dumbest people I have ever come across. I think this guy will go down. Mini, follow thru to the best you can and hopefully ned can get his. I know there are some lawyers on the board as they previously got real verbal on me in some arguments so hopefully they will chime in on this. I think a new thread "Mail Fraud...Need help" should be started as many, including me for the past two weeks have past over this. I tihnk if a party that has themselves been wronged by ole Ned starts this thread, they will get pointed in the right direction by our learned legal collectors who have not been following this thread. JMO, good luck getting this guy to take it in the a** as many times as he stuck it in somebodys a**.
    EAMUS CATULI!

    My Auctions
  • Certainly the scamster can raise any defense that he chooses. I would force him to make that choice.

    http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm

    Above is the address for the Mail Fraud form at USPS.

    I would also make a police report, or try to. DO NOT call 911. Go to the police precinct
    where you live - the place where the fraud was discovered and where the victim resides.

    I would also file a claim in my State/County small claims court. Your small claims division
    may lack jurisdiction, or they may not. The main thing is to get all of the story onto as
    many public records as possible.

    When I was finished putting all of my paperwork together, I would send copies to the legal
    department at the auction site operators. (There is much more you can do to bring this guy
    to justice, but you will need a lawyer and it will cost you some money. I WOULD spend the
    money, but most folks choose not to; the BIGGEST crooks rely on inaction by victims.)

    Good Luck!

    cher
  • zef204zef204 Posts: 4,742 ✭✭
    there you go, I would bet that cher has some legal background if not a lawyer.

    I really think that collectors want to help one another but all lawyers here may not be reading this, so start a new thread asking for advice and I think you will get it, for the sake of collecting.
    EAMUS CATULI!

    My Auctions
  • MiniMasterMiniMaster Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Thanks for the input Zef and Cher. I will consider all options closely. One of the unopened wax pack experts had indicated finger printing can be done as well. If nedsk was dumb enough to put wax stained cards in the middle of a pack and glue the packs shut, perhaps he also left his finger prints on the cards as well? Kuntryboy, what kind of chances do you give me if I can get nedsk's finger prints off these alleged unopened wax pack cards? Don't tell me......he probably used surgical gloves while resealing.....lol.
    Yes, this could be costly, but if he can be taken down wouldn't that be worth it? I mean we all pay a lot of money playing around in this hobby. And for the most part we get what we pay for. Someone like nedsk comes into our playground and pretends (for how long?) to be one of the good guys, and turns out to be one of the worst. I think we should look at the bigger picture here! How can we collectively take out a bad egg that was messing around in our playground? I'm not looking for help directly. I'm going to be responsible for that if I choose to do something. Any positive, constructive idea's would be what we should all discuss. The more minds thinking of how we can go after this guy legally would be far more helpful than telling me what nedsk will say? We already know he was lying about the material he sent me! It's obvious he would deny any wrong doing until he was convicted. Similar to actions of most criminal minds. So, any other idea's on how we can legally take this guy down would be most welcome image I certainly appreciate everyone's comments directed toward this issue to date.

    T. Allan
  • rw2winrw2win Posts: 557
    feedback still falling!!! image
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>feedback still falling!!! image >>



    from another wonderful looking ebay account, also..
    ·p_A·
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    All of his negs seem to be with coin sales, what about all that unopened card stuff, has it not been long enough for them to start neg him.

    Stingray
  • rw2winrw2win Posts: 557
    ...yeah, some of these people are out some serious cash!
  • MiniMasterMiniMaster Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Could be buyers have not yet received items and may never receive them? They are proabably still getting smoke screen e-mails from the seller claiming that items will ship soon? I just received an e-mail from someone that bought items from nedsk and they have received a reply to their e-mail with an answer as indicated above! I'm afraid many buyers of the 75 Mini Wax Boxes and other alleged unopened material from this seller are going to receive nothing for their hard earned money......not even reseals as I did? If he never sent coin items, what makes anyone think he will send the other items? A major scam that the authorities need to act on soon!
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    O.k. i would like to take a crack at this. If the buyer of these packs is so confident that he got screwed on the purchase, you might as well open them all up and find out for sure. You can always "reseal" them when you try to get your refund from this deadbeat IMO.
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭
    Carew29,

    Sounds like great idea, but I wouldn't do that. He probably has already filed a claim, and if you haven't you better check the policy. It is 30 days or 60 days, I can't remember. When you file a report with ebay, you have to return the product to Lloyds of London(insurance of ebay) or ebay and then get a big fat check for $175. That is after you pay a $25 deductible.


  • MiniMasterMiniMaster Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Carew29, you can't be serious? In prior threads I've already addressed how I know they are reseals. Perhaps you could read them?
    I won't even address the reseal remark you made?.......Quite a lame crack you took at this? If you find this to be some sort of joke then go thread somewhere else. No one that cares about this situation is interested in your pathetic remarks!
  • MiniMasterMiniMaster Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Yes, I have filed a report to ebay. I had to wait until 30 days after auction ended. I have yet to hear back from ebay, but I only just filed claim this morning image Actually they will require a written document (on letter head) from an expert they can contact to confirm any details they might need. I can get up to $200 less a $25 claim handling fee. Will keep you posted as to the outcome of the claim image

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This guy continues to pull this same sort of scam about every few months. Usually arch-criminal scammers such as this guy move from state to state to try to avoid criminal prosecution. This guy though seems to stay in this same general radius of central Pennsylvania...probably has family in the area that he doesn't want to leave. No question this is Paoutdoorsman2004 and all the other ebay names he's used since, and probably before on a smaller scale as he was learning how to scam. I'd be sure that he's probably got another ebay name with good feedback ready to go in a few months when he completes all the Photoshop work for his phony auctions. Remember, admittedly he's a computer repairman so obviously he's also good at picture manipulation with Photoshop or a more sophisticated picture software program. The bottom line to this post is that this guy will not be stopped until he's thrown in prison. I'm not sure how to proceed and I've never been scammed by this guy, but those scammed really should contact the local DA there or the FBI or something to put a stop to this.
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    Professional scammer indeed.

    You have to at least give him credit for having high expectations of his scams. I would rather go to jail for robbing a Fed Reserve Bank than robbing a 7-11.

    Julen


    _________
    Collecting:
    1980 Topps: Over 4,000 cards from vending and wax boxes awaiting a giant bonfire
    1969 Topps Master: # 1 1
    1987 Kraft Dinners Home Plate Heroes

    image
    RIP GURU
  • RipublicaninMassRipublicaninMass Posts: 10,051 ✭✭✭
    I bought an 84 fller update set from the second coming of PA_outdoorsman. This is when he took paypal. he never sent the items and I was refunded by paypal. Was a bit scary there for a minute, but paypal did come through since no delivery confimation was ever provided. I would not buy any of this stuff without paypal. Although I have heard that paypal asks for the confirmation, and you can type in all 0's. I am 1 for 1 with paypal, they refunded me on some poor 55 topps when the seller claimed they were nrmt, but I bought a trimmed red menace set and they jsut told me the case was closed? I will never understand them
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The negs keep coming.....all from low feedback buyers. Im beginning to think that these are not all newbie buyers and quite possibly they are alternate buying Ids? in any event this guy should be NARU soon. I do not think he did anything illegal. he seems to be sending people the stuff. its just that it is all over graded and opened etc.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭
    WinPitcher,

    "I do not think he did anything illegal. he seems to be sending people the stuff. its just that it is all over graded and opened etc."

    Just so I don't misunderstand your statement. If he is selling unopened material, and it ends up resealed material, is that illegal?

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Jay he can claim that he was unaware that it was opened. what i was trying to say is that people are getting stuff, just not what they thought? I am under the impression that he was selling those "unopened" packs for someone else. waxfromthepast left glowing feedback if you remm so his pack was at least untampered. hope i have clarified my previous post.

    steve
    Good for you.
  • MiniMasterMiniMaster Posts: 505 ✭✭
    Steve,

    I find it a bit odd you taking that position on this guy? Clearly he has ripped off people on the coin auctions. One guy filed a police report that he never received his coins? Seller could claim he didn't know the wax packs were reseals....true. But what does it say when he refuses to back up his auction items when they turn out to be in fact "reseals". Does he offer a refund? No, he sends a rude nasty gram and also leaves retaliatory feedback claiming buyer didn't know unopened material? Well Ned.....turns out I did know my unopened material and the box you sent me is reseals. This guy appears to have committed a crime on the coin auctions and the alleged unopened wax boxes! Just because 1 wax pack was the real deal does not get this guy off the hook for the rest of the scams he's pulled on buyers! By the way.....the same buyer of the good wax pack is still waiting for another wax pack that he bought from this seller......but it hasn't showed up in close to 3 weeks? But your entitled to your own opinion?

  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Mini I think you do not know my posistion on this matter! I think the guy should be flogged. i was just making an observation. No where have I said the guy is A OK! please do not make me out as defending this guy. My previous posts said the negs keep coming etc.

    NOW I hope I have again clarified my posisition on this matter


    CRIME? I don't see it. Civil action YES
    Steve
    Good for you.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    It is odd how he has one positive there with all those negatives? Wondering when the negs on the baseball items will start showing up?

    Stingray
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Mini Id like to ask you a question. What posistion were you insinuating I was taking?

    I have been following Nedsk's feedback everyday. (I had no Idea waxfromthepast has not recieved his other pack/box.item yet. heck i wasn't even aware he was awaiting one. All I am saying is simply this. The guy had a ton of auctions and seems to be sending stuff out. What his return policy is/was I have no idea as i did not do business with him. No where in my posts did I say his return policy was ok, yet you insinuated that i did. If you read my post (above ) I had asked a QUESTION which was regarding the low feedback buyers leaving the negs. Please do not put words in my mouth as it was very unfair of you to do so. To imply that i was taking a positive posistion in this matter when in fact i do not was not a correct assumption on your part. As for my statement that he may not have done anything illegal I stand by that because he seems to be sending the stuff out. Ebay is full of guys that overgrade etc. this guy just did it on a large scale.
    Steve
    Good for you.
  • SoFLPhillyFanSoFLPhillyFan Posts: 3,931 ✭✭
    The scene outside Carlisle, PA.

    They are getting closer, Neddy.

    image
  • julen23julen23 Posts: 4,558 ✭✭
    image

    Julen
    _________
    Collecting:
    1980 Topps: Over 4,000 cards from vending and wax boxes awaiting a giant bonfire
    1969 Topps Master: # 1 1
    1987 Kraft Dinners Home Plate Heroes



    image
    RIP GURU
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Some pos feedback today, seems ned got in over his head and is behind in sending stuff out. I still am confused as to why most negs feedback (NOT ALL) are from pvt and 0 feedback buyers and feedback left from exp ebayers is POS. I guess the book aint closed yet on this case.


    please do not read into this post as my defending ned I am simply making an observation

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, but some of that recent positive feedback is from sellers with him buying $5 and $10 dollar items.

    I don't see why some members here don't understand the scam. A scammer can buy 1,000 items at $5 each and spend $5,000 to look like some spectacular ebayer with 1,000 feedback and a 100% rating. You can resell the purchased items for a slight profit or loss either on the same account or on a different ebay account. Then swoop in with a huge scam like this and make a cool $25,000 or much more. Again...this guy needs to go to jail...it's the only way he will be stopped. This is what prisons are built for - to lockup criminals such as this.
  • pandrewspandrews Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes, but some of that recent positive feedback >>



    one.
    ·p_A·
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    The recent feedback for him buying is 1 and it was for a dollar four. lastly (and I am not an attorney) I believe that if you do speak to one that this is mostly a civil matter between buyer and seller. I doubt very much that Ned will do jail time for any of this.

    I see a craqcker jack sale for a grand to a board member here. i see a guy who bought a pack to save the hobby give glowing feedback i see items being sold as original that turn out not to be. i see 0 feedback buyers and those with private feedback giving negs. i also see 2 ebayers with decent feedback giving negs as well.
    it all seems 50/50 in my opinion.
    the bottom line is im still waiting to see this play out.
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    He's has 2 positive feedback for buying cheap items just since June 20th. I just spot checked his last 200 feedback and many were for buying cheap items. Were there some expensive items mixed in? - Yes. But my point still stands that a scammer can buy and sell mostly cheap items with some expensive items mixed in and basically break even with the transactions. Build up the positive feedback and then come in for the kill - there is no debate here...this is exactly what he did and what he will do again until he is behind bars.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< The recent feedback for him buying is 1 and it was for a dollar four. lastly (and I am not an attorney) I believe that if you do speak to one that this is mostly a civil matter between buyer and seller. I doubt very much that Ned will do jail time for any of this. >>>

    With nonchalant attitudes such as this towards these criminals...these hard-core ebay scammers will continue indefinitely. Come on now...this isn't just a civil matter - there are crimes being committed here - over and over again by the same guy. You're right though that this thief Ned won't do any jail time - until those scammed contact law enforcement and press charges. Pressing charges might also help to get their money back.
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    Sorry, but that picture posted by SoFLPhilly is by far the funniest thing I've seen on the Internet in some time.
  • TheCARDKidTheCARDKid Posts: 1,496
    I wouldn't want to mess with that mob, lol.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    And what CRIME is that Steve?

    BTW my remarks are not "nonchalant" they may not have the same passion as yours I just do not see it the way you do. I am simply waiting for the WHOLE thing to play out before I HANG the guy. You would have liked to of hanged him the day he posted his first item it seems. Others here share your opinion and some share mine.

    The 2nd cheap item he bought was posted AFTER Perry and I made our remarks. . At the time it was ONE item and it was for a dollar four. Lets just wait and see how this plays out is all I am saying.

    I truly feel the guy got in over his head selling for (Paoutdoorsman) most prolly (as jim HIGHEND) spoke to him on the phone if you recall. He is behind in sending out OVERGRADED coins and OPENED material. Seems the collection he is selling is mixed, some good some bad. How that adds up to a crime is beyond me.AS he can fall back on the claim that he THOUGHT the coins were original and the boxes were UNOPENED. Hell he aint the first card/coin dealer to overgrade his stuff!

    Steve edited cuz I thought the word many was used and it was "some"
    Good for you.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    <<< And what CRIME is that Steve? >>>

    According to the negs, at the very least not shipping merchandise that was paid for and falsely representing merchandise. Last time I checked, those things are considered crimes. But I respect your point of view Steve and we'll see what happens. You are right about my "passion" - scammers who try to ripoff fellow baseball card collectors do make me angry - I'll try to calm down before I become one of those mob members in that picture Keith posted - LOL
  • jayhawkejayhawke Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭
    WinPitcher,

    If nedsk listed other items, would you buy from him?
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