<< <i>You have no clue how difficult these are to find, >>
I don't doubt they are hard to find.....but you gotta have people that want them to move the bidding up. I've gotta figure that the demand for conditional rarity relatively modern proofs that you offered are lower than you desired.
Plus..as a buyer, but never a seller yet, on ebay...I gotta be honest that I want to get the merch at the bare bones lowest price...I really don't care what's fair or how much you have in the coin. I don't say that to sound like an a$$, but combine that sentiment with the level of demand...and there you go.
Now put a 93-S Morgan in NGC F or VF on ebay, and I'll bet you'll do pretty well....
Louis, if they cross at 1 grade lower you pay the fees and i keep the coins,if they x at the same or higher you pay me 50% of todays Price guide and i keep the coins,you pay all the fees,if they x at 2 points lower i pay the fee's and you get the coins ! Put up or shut up ! keep in mind we have 4 bets here ! Jeff Roosie Wash Frankie
<< <i>Louis, if they cross at 1 grade lower you pay the fees and i keep the coins,if they x at the same or higher you pay me 50% of todays Price guide and i keep the coins,you pay all the fees,if they x at 2 points lower i pay the fee's and you get the coins ! Put up or shut up ! keep in mind we have 4 bets here ! Jeff Roosie Wash Frankie
Proof >>
What's the matter you have no confidence they will all cross at the same grade and designation or higher ?
Be Cool Louis. It's against forum rules to threaten bodily harm to a fellow member. Ya'll stop this craziness...it must be the heat. I KNOW it's hot in Texas as it's hotter n' hell here in Louisiana!
A long distance wager with someone that didn't live up to the terms of the auctions he listed.
I think we would need a broker for this. And your terms are rediculous, if they are downgraded 1 point I would pay the grading fees and you would keep the coins.
<< <i><< I've had coins sell for half of their market value. >>
So what did that prove? That you're a hero or a piss poor businessman? What intelligent businessman stays in business
continuously selling in Red figures? >>
Sometimes I wonder why I respond to idiots even as I'm typing.
Boom,
I've been in business - continuously at the same location - for almost 15 years. Yep, sometimes they sell at a loss, other times they sell at a HUGE profit. Real businessmen understand that concept. Johnny-come-latelys are a little slow to grasp it.
I will put up through a broker that has the stakes in hand from both sides, you have already proved yourself not trustworthy by your actions in the auctions.
I will bet according to the earlier statement you challenged. I said to be prepared for possible downgrades. My bet is they will not all cross at the same grade and designation or higher.
Louis, You said my coins sucked and would be downgraded,i said if they went down 2 points i would pay the fee's and give you the coins ! if they downgrade 2 points im out nearly a grand ! ?
<< <i>Louis, You said my coins sucked and would be downgraded,i said if they went down 2 points i would pay the fee's and give you the coins ! if they downgrade 2 points im out nearly a grand ! ?
Proof >>
Now you are flat out telling lies. This is what I said, ver batim.
<<Expect some downgrades. >>
Your auction actions speak volumes about your integrity.
Louis, accept the wager as is if you are so sure my coins are BS ! Broker ? whoever wants to get in the middle of this pissin match and do not call my integrity in question ! lest i need to slap you off your bar stool
Sometimes I wonder why I respond to idiots even as I'm typing.
Boom,
I've been in business - continuously at the same location - for almost 15 years. Yep, sometimes they sell at a loss, other times they sell at a HUGE profit. Real businessmen understand that concept. Johnny-come-latelys are a little slow to grasp it.
You just can't help yourself with the Name calling, can you? Now....you've been in business 15 years...I'm impressed...REALLY
I've been in business since 1980, so how exactly does this make me either an idiot OR a Johnny Come Lately?
Who's the REAL businessman? I've proven you wrong everytime you've opened your mouth! All you know how to do is hurl
insults, sitting behind a keyboard all day. You didn't impress or intimidate me from day one and here it is almost a year later
and you still don't! I even said in a gentlemanly fashion to both of you, "No disrespect intended", yet you must resort to Name
<< <i>You just can't help yourself with the Name calling, can you? >>
Boom,
Do you even read the drivel that emanates from your keyboard prior to hitting the submit button? I simply responded to your name calling. If you can't take it, don't start it.
<< <i>I even said in a gentlemanly fashion to both of you, "No disrespect intended", yet you must resort to Name
Louis, Hello ! 4 for 4 on a PCGS cross ? 100% do i really seem that stupid ? while i am confident i could get 50-75%,would i bet a thousand bucks @ 100% ? LOL
Must be the heat. Fellas, let it go. This is all much to do about nothing! George, check what I posted earlier when I was trying to "share" a little experience, with you. Unlike some other REAL businessmen, I know how to deal with this situation and still make money without selling at a loss trying to prove God knows what.
I'll say it again...ANYONE who continues to sell in Red figures won't be in business very long, unless they make HUGE profits every now and then to offset their being too tight to place a reserve on items or a starting price that, in essence, IS the reserve!
Being too tight to spend a few dollars to protect your item is far better losing than the item itself. I'd rather lose $7.00 than be taken to the cleaners on a $1000 item.
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There are some chickens**ts in the world Russ, especially when it comes to greenbacks. Not all can be HEROIC.
Or..."Damn the torpedos" I should've said. Scratch HEROIC!
Put the odds in your favor with good product, good ending times, good pictures, positive feedback, accurate & honest descriptions.
I think there are plenty of savy e-bay buyers that pay fair money - sometimes at the last second.
<< <i>You have no clue how difficult these are to find, >>
I don't doubt they are hard to find.....but you gotta have people that want them to move the bidding up.
I've gotta figure that the demand for conditional rarity relatively modern proofs that you offered are lower than you desired.
Plus..as a buyer, but never a seller yet, on ebay...I gotta be honest that I want to get the merch at the bare bones lowest price...I really don't care what's fair or how much you have in the coin. I don't say that to sound like an a$$, but combine that sentiment with the level of demand...and there you go.
Now put a 93-S Morgan in NGC F or VF on ebay, and I'll bet you'll do pretty well....
<< <i>Louis is the Friggin proof xpert ? >>
When it comes to you Proof, I think I can read you pretty well.
wanna make some friendly wager's on my cross overs ?
'Wagers!" I love wagers. I can purchase more coinage.
<< <i>I really don't care what's fair or how much you have in the coin. I don't say that to sound like an a$$ >>
You don't sound like an ass, you sound like a smart buyer.
<< <i>Louis,
wanna make some friendly wager's on my cross overs ? >>
Proof,
If you're talking cross at same grade, Louis should feel guilty if he takes the bet.
Russ, NCNE
if they cross at 1 grade lower you pay the fees and i keep the coins,if they x at the same or higher you pay me 50% of todays Price guide and i keep the coins,you pay all the fees,if they x at 2 points lower i pay the fee's and you get the coins !
Put up or shut up !
keep in mind we have 4 bets here !
Jeff
Roosie
Wash
Frankie
Proof
<< <i>I've had coins sell for half of their market value. >>
So what did that prove? That you're a hero or a piss poor businessman? What intelligent businessman stays in business
continuously selling in Red figures?
<< <i>Louis,
if they cross at 1 grade lower you pay the fees and i keep the coins,if they x at the same or higher you pay me 50% of todays Price guide and i keep the coins,you pay all the fees,if they x at 2 points lower i pay the fee's and you get the coins !
Put up or shut up !
keep in mind we have 4 bets here !
Jeff
Roosie
Wash
Frankie
Proof >>
What's the matter you have no confidence they will all cross at the same grade and designation or higher ?
<< <i>Louis, what do you sell? Do you sell on eBay?
<< <i>I've had coins sell for half of their market value. >>
So what did that prove? That you're a hero or a piss poor businessman? What intelligent businessman stays in business
continuously selling in Red figures?
That quote didn't come from me. You're confused.
made you a fair wager !
Heads I win, tails you lose.
questions and a point...no more-no less.
<< <i>You sissy
made you a fair wager ! >>
Someone better warn him fore I knock him off his chair.
<< <i>No Louis, The first one is yours and the second one is Russ'...no disrespect intended toward either of you. Just simple
questions and a point...no more-no less.
I'm not a dealer, I'm a collector. I have never sold a coin.
<< <i>Someone better warn him fore I knock him off his chair. >>
I think we would need a broker for this. And your terms are rediculous, if they are downgraded 1 point I would pay the grading fees and you would keep the coins.
<< <i> I'm not a dealer, I'm a collector. I have never sold a coin. >>
Well ya see, since you've never had any experience in this department then you don't have a clue what it's like, now do ya?!
<< <i>if they x at 2 points lower i pay the fee's and you get the coins ! >>
I think you missed this part! Sounds like a wager to me! Actually Louis, I think you've got the better end of this bet!
Nothing personal George!
Put up or shut up !
Proof
<< <i>
<< <i>Someone better warn him fore I knock him off his chair. >>
Oh no !!!
<< <i>Oh no !!! The snitch is in the house. >>
<< <i><< I've had coins sell for half of their market value. >>
So what did that prove? That you're a hero or a piss poor businessman? What intelligent businessman stays in business
continuously selling in Red figures? >>
Sometimes I wonder why I respond to idiots even as I'm typing.
Boom,
I've been in business - continuously at the same location - for almost 15 years. Yep, sometimes they sell at a loss, other times they sell at a HUGE profit. Real businessmen understand that concept. Johnny-come-latelys are a little slow to grasp it.
Russ, NCNE
When we are planning for posterity, we ought to remember that virtue is not hereditary.
Thomas Paine
<< <i>Nuff of this BS
Put up or shut up !
Proof >>
I will put up through a broker that has the stakes in hand from both sides, you have already proved yourself not trustworthy by your actions in the auctions.
I will bet according to the earlier statement you challenged. I said to be prepared for possible downgrades.
My bet is they will not all cross at the same grade and designation or higher.
You said my coins sucked and would be downgraded,i said if they went down 2 points i would pay the fee's and give you the coins !
if they downgrade 2 points im out nearly a grand !
?
Proof
<< <i>Louis,
You said my coins sucked and would be downgraded,i said if they went down 2 points i would pay the fee's and give you the coins !
if they downgrade 2 points im out nearly a grand !
?
Proof >>
Now you are flat out telling lies. This is what I said, ver batim.
<<Expect some downgrades. >>
Your auction actions speak volumes about your integrity.
accept the wager as is if you are so sure my coins are BS !
Broker ? whoever wants to get in the middle of this pissin match
and do not call my integrity in question ! lest i need to slap you off your bar stool
Proof
U.S. Nickels Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
U.S. Dimes Complete Set with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes
Boom,
I've been in business - continuously at the same location - for almost 15 years. Yep, sometimes they sell at a loss, other times they sell at a HUGE profit. Real businessmen understand that concept. Johnny-come-latelys are a little slow to grasp it.
You just can't help yourself with the Name calling, can you? Now....you've been in business 15 years...I'm impressed...REALLY
I've been in business since 1980, so how exactly does this make me either an idiot OR a Johnny Come Lately?
Who's the REAL businessman? I've proven you wrong everytime you've opened your mouth! All you know how to do is hurl
insults, sitting behind a keyboard all day. You didn't impress or intimidate me from day one and here it is almost a year later
and you still don't! I even said in a gentlemanly fashion to both of you, "No disrespect intended", yet you must resort to Name
calling.
<< <i>Counter Wager ? >>
Quote from earlier post.
My bet is they will not all cross at the same grade and designation or higher.
Put up my 1K against your 2K !
no different than playing craps (and i like craps)
wanna play my 1k VS your 1K
Proof
<< <i>You just can't help yourself with the Name calling, can you? >>
Boom,
Do you even read the drivel that emanates from your keyboard prior to hitting the submit button? I simply responded to your name calling. If you can't take it, don't start it.
<< <i>I even said in a gentlemanly fashion to both of you, "No disrespect intended", yet you must resort to Name
calling. >>
You're a moron. No disrespect intended.
Russ, NCNE
Hello !
4 for 4 on a PCGS cross ? 100%
do i really seem that stupid ?
while i am confident i could get 50-75%,would i bet a thousand bucks @ 100% ? LOL
I'll say it again...ANYONE who continues to sell in Red figures won't be in business very long, unless they make HUGE profits every now and then to offset their being too tight to place a reserve on items or a starting price that, in essence, IS the reserve!
Being too tight to spend a few dollars to protect your item is far better losing than the item itself. I'd rather lose $7.00 than be taken to the cleaners on a $1000 item.
Do I need to answer that ?
If you are so positive you can win,just take the bet !
done deal
forget it !
Proof
And the stakes would need to be in the hands of an agreed upon third party. This third party as well as myself would have to have the submission #.