It's possible we see some 250 privy coins for next year, and another 230 privy for the next dollar coin. They have already announced the gold coins for 2026, but not the dollar coin.
@HalfDime said:
It's possible we see some 250 privy coins for next year, and another 230 privy for the next dollar coin. They have already announced the gold coins for 2026, but not the dollar coin.
Yes, it is possible, and if they do, those 250th Anniversary privy coins will be very popular and sell for very high prices if auctioned, too.
This does not necessarily mean the FH values will drop significantly, it just means more rich collectors will have another low mintage variety to buy. These varieties are a niche market, but many of the FH gold privies are in strong hands for the long term if they are collectors.
In 1976, the Mint issued one pound gold medals for the bicentennial on demand. A total of only 423 were struck and were sold for $4,000. Last week one sold for $60,000 in MS65 at Heritage. There are probably less than 30-40 that still exist.
I would really like to see a 2-ounce or a 5-ounce gold medal for the 250th Anniversary, but so far nothing special like that has been announced.
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In 1976, the Mint issued one pound gold medals for the bicentennial on demand. A total of only 423 were struck and were sold for $4,000. Last week one sold for $60,000 in MS65 at Heritage. There are probably less than 30-40 that still exist.
I would really like to see a 2-ounce or a 5-ounce gold medal for the 250th Anniversary, but so far nothing special like that has been announced.
One dealer in Upstate NY was actively buying those 12 oz Troy 1976 Gold Medals in the 2000-2006 period. Always was buying. Then you could grab one uncertified with box and papers for around 4500-5000 in the early 2000's when gold was 330-360/oz.
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
That's what happened. They moved from one venue to another and sold for more during the entire 2 month period. Thank you for verifying that I was right.
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
That's what happened. They moved from one venue to another and sold for more during the entire 2 month period. Thank you for verifying that I was right.
My pleasure, but that's still not an arbitrage. Again, you brilliantly spotted the opportunity, so how did you make out?
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
That's what happened. They moved from one venue to another and sold for more during the entire 2 month period. Thank you for verifying that I was right.
My pleasure, but that's still not an arbitrage. Again, you brilliantly spotted the opportunity, so how did you make out?
Too rich for my blood.
You brilliantly predicted the $50k price. How did you make out?
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
That's what happened. They moved from one venue to another and sold for more during the entire 2 month period. Thank you for verifying that I was right.
My pleasure, but that's still not an arbitrage. Again, you brilliantly spotted the opportunity, so how did you make out?
Too rich for my blood.
You brilliantly predicted the $50k price. How did you make out?
I DID brilliantly predict the price. Almost to the penny.
And I said all along it was way out of my price range. Plenty of 5, 6 and 7 figure coins I will never own, regardless of how good they might turn out to be. All I did was correctly call a winner for the Mint, and not poop all over something I would never own because it wasn't being offered for sale at a price I was comfortable paying.
I didn't waste time placing $8K bids, allowing myself to get all excited when the bids were $5K a month before the sale, predicting they'd NEVER get anywhere near $20K, even in PR70, because they weren't AGEs. Everyone on the board can't say the same. Right @coiner?
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
That's what happened. They moved from one venue to another and sold for more during the entire 2 month period. Thank you for verifying that I was right.
My pleasure, but that's still not an arbitrage. Again, you brilliantly spotted the opportunity, so how did you make out?
Too rich for my blood.
You brilliantly predicted the $50k price. How did you make out?
I DID brilliantly predict the price. Almost to the penny.
And I said all along it was way out of my price range. Plenty of 5, 6 and 7 figure coins I will never own, regardless of how good they might turn out to be. All I did was correctly call a winner for the Mint, and not poop all over something I would never own because it wasn't being offered for sale at a price I was comfortable paying.
I didn't waste time placing $8K bids, allowing myself to get all excited when the bids were $5K a month before the sale, predicting they'd NEVER get anywhere near $20K, even in PR70, because they weren't AGEs. Everyone on the board can't say the same. Right @coiner?
I know. So why are you giving me a hard time for ending up on the sidelines just like you?
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
That's what happened. They moved from one venue to another and sold for more during the entire 2 month period. Thank you for verifying that I was right.
My pleasure, but that's still not an arbitrage. Again, you brilliantly spotted the opportunity, so how did you make out?
Too rich for my blood.
You brilliantly predicted the $50k price. How did you make out?
I DID brilliantly predict the price. Almost to the penny.
And I said all along it was way out of my price range. Plenty of 5, 6 and 7 figure coins I will never own, regardless of how good they might turn out to be. All I did was correctly call a winner for the Mint, and not poop all over something I would never own because it wasn't being offered for sale at a price I was comfortable paying.
I didn't waste time placing $8K bids, allowing myself to get all excited when the bids were $5K a month before the sale, predicting they'd NEVER get anywhere near $20K, even in PR70, because they weren't AGEs. Everyone on the board can't say the same. Right @coiner?
I know. So why are you giving me a hard time for ending up on the sidelines just like you?
You and Freddie should become friends.
I give you a hard time because that's apparently our thing. And I apparently give Freddie a hard time simply by being friends with you. And by existing. I wouldn't risk changing that for anything. 😀
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
That's what happened. They moved from one venue to another and sold for more during the entire 2 month period. Thank you for verifying that I was right.
My pleasure, but that's still not an arbitrage. Again, you brilliantly spotted the opportunity, so how did you make out?
Too rich for my blood.
You brilliantly predicted the $50k price. How did you make out?
I DID brilliantly predict the price. Almost to the penny.
And I said all along it was way out of my price range. Plenty of 5, 6 and 7 figure coins I will never own, regardless of how good they might turn out to be. All I did was correctly call a winner for the Mint, and not poop all over something I would never own because it wasn't being offered for sale at a price I was comfortable paying.
I didn't waste time placing $8K bids, allowing myself to get all excited when the bids were $5K a month before the sale, predicting they'd NEVER get anywhere near $20K, even in PR70, because they weren't AGEs. Everyone on the board can't say the same. Right @coiner?
I know. So why are you giving me a hard time for ending up on the sidelines just like you?
You and Freddie should become friends.
I give you a hard time because that's apparently our thing. And I apparently give Freddie a hard time simply by being friends with you. And by existing. I wouldn't risk changing that for anything. 😀
@Goldminers said:
These are the ones that are left on eBay, including one from DLRC. The couple listed in the $60k range, seem to >have sold.
Is there a discernable pattern you or anybody else sees in the prices for the FH regulars or FH privys ?
I'm a bit lost, to be honest.
The pattern of secondary auctions of 70 grade 2024 non-privy gold FH coins in the past week indicates it takes around $5,300-$5,500 to get one. Some coins with special signed labels have been bringing in more. There are still more than 150 listed at all kinds of prices above that currently on eBay. In 70 grades alone, PCGS has graded 1,960, CACG 442, and NGC around 3,000. That is a lot of graded 70's of the original 9,975 minted and sold. Coins in CACG holders are indicated at $5,750 wholesale on the CACG website.
The gold privy varieties are a different bunch entirely. There were only 230 issued in total. All were graded at PCGS, and 185 were graded 70. There are nearly 30 times more non-privy 70's graded vs privy coins. Of the original 230 privy coins, only 13 have been successfully sent to CACG and graded or crossed over as confirmed 70 grades for their "green bean" holders.
CACG has raised their price guide from $41,000 Dec 21st, to $51,000 mid Jan, and to $57,000 late Jan for wholesale pricing for the 70's. There have been recent documented retail sales in Feb of PCGS 70's in the $60,000+ range. There are 3 listed on eBay now at $77,500-$87,995 or best offer. The CACG PR70DCAM at auction at GC is a scarce pop 13 and we will see what it sells for in about a week. The auction for the PR69 privy at GC probably ends just after the Superbowl is over.
The few PR69 gold privy coins that have been publicly listed seem to have sold around the $40,000-$50,000 range. The CACG guide for them is currently $45,000. Last I checked there was only one PR69 privy coin left for sale on eBay at $49,500 BIN. There have not been many privy golds for sale, so it is quite tough to get one.
Hi Folks. Here is a final update on the 2024 Flowing Hair Gold coin that I was able to purchase on the mint website on January 1st. After some debate, I decided to send it in to our hosts for grading. She arrived today in a snow squall, and I am pleased to say that the coin is a perfect PR 70 DCAM. So although we will never know how this coin became available at such a late date , it was probably not a returned coin rejected by a previous buyer for some type of flaw. This one is a keeper, and I was lucky and blessed by the fickle finger of fate that morning I logged in.
I too like the label although there could’ve been an extra line added for “super late strike“ or “delayed gratification“ or even “most patient/determined collector“
@Goldbully said:
I would consider it a gutsy move crossing a PCGS graded FH w/privy to CACG. Anyone have any thoughts about on this crossover?
I must be missing something, where's the risk? If it doesn't straight cross then they return it. You're out shipping and grading fees which are considerable, but nothing in comparison really to the purchase price.
@Goldbully said:
I would consider it a gutsy move crossing a PCGS graded FH w/privy to CACG. Anyone have any thoughts about on this crossover?
I must be missing something, where's the risk? If it doesn't straight cross then they return it. You're out shipping and grading fees which are considerable, but nothing in comparison really to the purchase price.
I’m just considering that all 230 privies were graded by PCGS from the start. Isn’t there something to be said about originality? Maybe I’m just putting too much thought into this since both our hosts and CACG are both MLG….Major League Graders.
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Waitta bring out the big guns of beauty, Bully!
And thanks Phil for posting your photos, I suspect we will be discussing both coins for years to come.
It's possible we see some 250 privy coins for next year, and another 230 privy for the next dollar coin. They have already announced the gold coins for 2026, but not the dollar coin.
Yes, it is possible, and if they do, those 250th Anniversary privy coins will be very popular and sell for very high prices if auctioned, too.
This does not necessarily mean the FH values will drop significantly, it just means more rich collectors will have another low mintage variety to buy. These varieties are a niche market, but many of the FH gold privies are in strong hands for the long term if they are collectors.
In 1976, the Mint issued one pound gold medals for the bicentennial on demand. A total of only 423 were struck and were sold for $4,000. Last week one sold for $60,000 in MS65 at Heritage. There are probably less than 30-40 that still exist.
I would really like to see a 2-ounce or a 5-ounce gold medal for the 250th Anniversary, but so far nothing special like that has been announced.
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One dealer in Upstate NY was actively buying those 12 oz Troy 1976 Gold Medals in the 2000-2006 period. Always was buying. Then you could grab one uncertified with box and papers for around 4500-5000 in the early 2000's when gold was 330-360/oz.
what do you think the mintage limits will be for the 250th issues?
Good question...
How many Forum pages will be logged while debating what Michael White means when he says?...
"production of the 'entire authorized mintage' was achieved." Lolol
Uh-oh, I see a can of worms nearby....
i can see them selling all of those minted
I bought 180/230 at the auction …had to call SB mid auction to increase my limit…..I’m glad I bought it🥰
Congrats, the auction blew through my limit as well, but the final limiter hid my cell phone to shut me down
A 70 recently sold on eBay, 60k as it appears.
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Current bid: $39k.....11 days until close.
These are the ones that are left on eBay, including one from DLRC. The couple listed in the $60k range, seem to have sold.
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This 69 is currently at $24.5k with less than 4 days to go. greatcollections.com/2024-Flowing-Hair-High-Relief-Gold-Dollar-230th-Anniversary-Privy-Mark-148th-of-230-Struck-PCGS-Proof-69-DCAM-With-Ventris-C-Gibson-Signed-Certificate-of-Authenticity
Update to $36,300.00
Now $38,500. Not bad. I thought full retail was achieved at the time of the Auction, maybe not?
They bought #148, a 69, for 26k two months ago....
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-1EVW65/2024-230th-anniversary-flowing-hair-high-relief-gold-coin-special-230-privy-mark-148th-coin-struck-proof-69-deep-cameo-pcgs
This one has gone into the PR70DCAM price range. I believe the highest price a 69 brought in the SB auction was $34k.
True. Also, there were 3 69's that went for 25k. That seems like a bargain at this point in time?
I was born 14th of August
It was. People speculated the market for them would tank once the hoopla wore off. They were wrong, and this is now full retail two months later.
Which makes me correct about the arbitrage possibility...[and you incorrect, if we're keeping score 😉]
If you say so. Where I come from, arbitrage involves being able to simultaneously buy in one market at one price while selling in another market at another price.
"ar·bi·trage
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noun
noun: arbitrage
the simultaneous buying and selling of securities, currency, or commodities in different markets or in derivative forms in order to take advantage of differing prices for the same asset."
That opportunity did not present itself here, insofar as there was no alternative market for these as the auction was proceeding, or immediately at its conclusion. There was only eBay, where a few were listed at significant markups, with no immediate takers. Whatever that was, it was not an "arbitrage opportunity."
Buying at one price, and selling two months later at another, is calling speculation where I come from.
In any event, since you were "correct about the arbitrage possibility," how much did you make as a result of your great insight and wisdom? To the best of my recollection, you were scared off by the prices realized at auction, and as a result had no confidence, not only in the arbitrage opportunity, but also in the short term speculative value of the asset.
From my perch, the only one here who was right about the potential value here was me. And now that the horse is out of the barn, even I'm not so sure about the future value at these levels. 😀
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That's what happened. They moved from one venue to another and sold for more during the entire 2 month period. Thank you for verifying that I was right.
My pleasure, but that's still not an arbitrage. Again, you brilliantly spotted the opportunity, so how did you make out?
Too rich for my blood.
You brilliantly predicted the $50k price. How did you make out?
I DID brilliantly predict the price. Almost to the penny.
And I said all along it was way out of my price range. Plenty of 5, 6 and 7 figure coins I will never own, regardless of how good they might turn out to be. All I did was correctly call a winner for the Mint, and not poop all over something I would never own because it wasn't being offered for sale at a price I was comfortable paying.
I didn't waste time placing $8K bids, allowing myself to get all excited when the bids were $5K a month before the sale, predicting they'd NEVER get anywhere near $20K, even in PR70, because they weren't AGEs. Everyone on the board can't say the same. Right @coiner?
CACG PR70DCAM FH w/privy and VCG COA
Current bid: $41k.....9 days until close.
I know. So why are you giving me a hard time for ending up on the sidelines just like you?
You and Freddie should become friends.
I give you a hard time because that's apparently our thing. And I apparently give Freddie a hard time simply by being friends with you. And by existing. I wouldn't risk changing that for anything. 😀
Is there a discernable pattern you or anybody else sees in the prices for the FH regulars or FH privys ?
I'm a bit lost, to be honest.
Up $2k since yesterday.
Lol. Fair enough
i think people are doing pricing change patterns from memory instead of a spreadsheet
there's not enough memory to track all 230 coins accurately
right now the trend is up, generally
The pattern of secondary auctions of 70 grade 2024 non-privy gold FH coins in the past week indicates it takes around $5,300-$5,500 to get one. Some coins with special signed labels have been bringing in more. There are still more than 150 listed at all kinds of prices above that currently on eBay. In 70 grades alone, PCGS has graded 1,960, CACG 442, and NGC around 3,000. That is a lot of graded 70's of the original 9,975 minted and sold. Coins in CACG holders are indicated at $5,750 wholesale on the CACG website.
The gold privy varieties are a different bunch entirely. There were only 230 issued in total. All were graded at PCGS, and 185 were graded 70. There are nearly 30 times more non-privy 70's graded vs privy coins. Of the original 230 privy coins, only 13 have been successfully sent to CACG and graded or crossed over as confirmed 70 grades for their "green bean" holders.
CACG has raised their price guide from $41,000 Dec 21st, to $51,000 mid Jan, and to $57,000 late Jan for wholesale pricing for the 70's. There have been recent documented retail sales in Feb of PCGS 70's in the $60,000+ range. There are 3 listed on eBay now at $77,500-$87,995 or best offer. The CACG PR70DCAM at auction at GC is a scarce pop 13 and we will see what it sells for in about a week. The auction for the PR69 privy at GC probably ends just after the Superbowl is over.
The few PR69 gold privy coins that have been publicly listed seem to have sold around the $40,000-$50,000 range. The CACG guide for them is currently $45,000. Last I checked there was only one PR69 privy coin left for sale on eBay at $49,500 BIN. There have not been many privy golds for sale, so it is quite tough to get one.
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EDIT: Deleted one result previously posted.
Less than 24 hours to go at Great Collections: greatcollections.com/Coin/1751411/2024-Flowing-Hair-High-Relief-Gold-Dollar-230th-Anniversary-Privy-Mark-148th-of-230-Struck-PCGS-Proof-69-DCAM-With-Ventris-C-Gibson-Signed-Certificate-of-Authenticity
Up another $1k since yesterday.
7 days to go and counting
The 69 went for $36,000 or $39,600 with fees.
The 70 CAC certificate information for the GC coin can be found at this link.
https://www.cacgrading.com/cert/858422119
My US Mint Commemorative Medal Set
It looks like they have revealed that the 12.5% buyers fee was utilized?
Bidder 17 paid $40,500.00 for the coin.
Hi Folks. Here is a final update on the 2024 Flowing Hair Gold coin that I was able to purchase on the mint website on January 1st. After some debate, I decided to send it in to our hosts for grading. She arrived today in a snow squall, and I am pleased to say that the coin is a perfect PR 70 DCAM. So although we will never know how this coin became available at such a late date , it was probably not a returned coin rejected by a previous buyer for some type of flaw. This one is a keeper, and I was lucky and blessed by the fickle finger of fate that morning I logged in.
Fantastic example of perseverance and I am happy for you with the outcome!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
That's awesome, great job!
I Like your choice of label,
Congrats on your New Years Day Purchase!
I too like the label although there could’ve been an extra line added for “super late strike“ or “delayed gratification“ or even “most patient/determined collector“
Tomorrow is the close for this prize.
Last bid was $44k on February 9th.
Current Bid: $45,000
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It's still at $49,500 w/BP. This piece sold 2 months ago at SB for $34,000. Handsome profit for the SB buyer.
I would consider it a gutsy move crossing a PCGS graded FH w/privy to CACG. Anyone have any thoughts about on this crossover?
I doubt they cracked it out.
Had to be submitted as cross at grade only. At least you would think so.
Cracking that coin out would be suicidal. So many many things could go wrong. 🤪
I must be missing something, where's the risk? If it doesn't straight cross then they return it. You're out shipping and grading fees which are considerable, but nothing in comparison really to the purchase price.
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I’m just considering that all 230 privies were graded by PCGS from the start. Isn’t there something to be said about originality? Maybe I’m just putting too much thought into this since both our hosts and CACG are both MLG….Major League Graders.