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230th Anniversary Flowing Hair High Relief Gold Coin (24YG)

MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

The Mint website now displays some images for the upcoming release.

Example:

Source: https://www.usmint.gov/230th-anniversary-flowing-hair-gold-coin-24YG.html

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2024 7:41AM

    @MetroD said:
    The Mint website now displays some images for the upcoming release.

    About time.




    edited to add: Is that doubling on her face and neck?

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2024 10:26AM

    @Goldbully said:
    Privy too.



    I could swear I got those images from the U.S. Mint Website earlier today.....now they are not there in that slide show.


    edited to add:

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Interesting the NGC completed listings at $10k all are "Ultra Cameo" w/o a sign one that these will be Cameos.

    https://ebay.com/itm/166997076088

    Am I missing something?

  • I hope the premium will not be high, so I can afford to order one. :)

  • @Goldbully
    Strange! Where did the privy go!!!!

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SilverPlatinum said:
    @Goldbully
    Strange! Where did the privy go!!!!

    The Mint is definitely up to something.

    Now I'm mad I did not get all the privy images that were available....like the COA.

  • @Goldbully said:
    The Mint is definitely up to something.

    The mint needs to tell us if they are making another lottery like the Silver medal one :)

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    These end slideshow coins had privy marks on them this morning.

    They are now repeats of the beginning slideshow.

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭

    3 months rent for one. Homeless hobbyist needing shelter. :open_mouth:

  • @Goldbully said:

    These end slideshow coins had privy marks on them this morning.

    They are now repeats of the beginning slideshow.

    This is really strange! Could it be that the mint wanted to do a privy marked one but they changed their mind later on and forgot to remove the old photos from their storage folder!

  • I found this on one of the videos on YouTube :) : PRIVY.......

  • epcepc Posts: 236 ✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:

    edited to add: Is that doubling on her face and neck?

    No, it's an effect of the lighting on the contours of the edges of the design.

    Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states

  • LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:

    These end slideshow coins had privy marks on them this morning.

    They are now repeats of the beginning slideshow.

    Not implying privy will be offered on gold as my guess is as good as anyone else's, but the silver on website also states no privy.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Any more LOL's out there. I know what I saw this morning.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,977 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe Privies were considered in the early stages?? Perhaps there will be 230 thrown in at the last moment? Maybe it was just a new website cut n' paste error??

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2024 3:34PM
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Screenshot from Silver Stacker YouTube video..

  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,200 ✭✭✭✭✭

    To be fair, he doesn’t show that the privy was in the website. He clicks to another page that was not live, and said someone sent the picture to him. I do believe those that saw it live though, so I have to imagine the mint may be planning some.

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SilverPlatinum said:
    I hope the premium will not be high, so I can afford to order one. :)

    Pricing Range Table

    Column = rightmost;
    Row = average price per ounce

    Example:
    @ average price per ounce = $2,675.00
    Price = $3,690.00
    Premium = $1,015.00

  • LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:

    @SilverPlatinum said:
    I hope the premium will not be high, so I can afford to order one. :)

    Pricing Range Table

    Column = rightmost;
    Row = average price per ounce

    Example:
    @ average price per ounce = $2,675.00
    Price = $3,690.00
    Premium = $1,015.00

    Why right most vs American Liberty 1 oz 24k?

  • treybenedicttreybenedict Posts: 428 ✭✭✭✭

    @Liquidated said:

    @MetroD said:

    @SilverPlatinum said:
    I hope the premium will not be high, so I can afford to order one. :)

    Pricing Range Table

    Column = rightmost;
    Row = average price per ounce

    Example:
    @ average price per ounce = $2,675.00
    Price = $3,690.00
    Premium = $1,015.00

    Why right most vs American Liberty 1 oz 24k?

    Technically this is not apart of the American Liberty High Relief series.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    CoinNews.net is showing a price of $3,740 if coin was released today.

    Got to love the incused edge lettering.


    230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Gold Coin Images Unveiled
    By
    Mike Unser -
    November 6, 2024

    The United States Mint has just published several images of the 2024-W Proof Flowing Hair Gold Coin ahead of its scheduled release on Nov. 14 at noon ET. The coin debuts one month after the release of the 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal, which proved very popular, lasting just over 24 hours before going off sale.

    Both the coin and medal pay homage to the 230th anniversary of the first dollar coin issued by the U.S. federal government, sharing the design of that 1794 dollar created by Robert Scot.

    The obverse (heads) recreates the original first dollar’s right-facing Liberty profile, encircled by 15 stars symbolizing the states that had ratified the Constitution by 1794. The design preserves the "LIBERTY" inscription and updates the date to "2024." The edge bears the denomination as "HUNDRED CENTS ONE DOLLAR OR UNIT," incused along its rim.


    More in CoinNews.net link

  • LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭

    @treybenedict said:

    @Liquidated said:

    @MetroD said:

    @SilverPlatinum said:
    I hope the premium will not be high, so I can afford to order one. :)

    Pricing Range Table

    Column = rightmost;
    Row = average price per ounce

    Example:
    @ average price per ounce = $2,675.00
    Price = $3,690.00
    Premium = $1,015.00

    Why right most vs American Liberty 1 oz 24k?

    Technically this is not apart of the American Liberty High Relief series.

    Thanks. When I looked far right column was Liberty & Britannia. See the new column now

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2024 5:47PM

    Retracted.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Liquidated said:

    @MetroD said:

    @SilverPlatinum said:
    I hope the premium will not be high, so I can afford to order one. :)

    Pricing Range Table

    Column = rightmost;
    Row = average price per ounce

    Example:
    @ average price per ounce = $2,675.00
    Price = $3,690.00
    Premium = $1,015.00

    Why right most vs American Liberty 1 oz 24k?

    Because they just HAD to create a new column just for this. The highest premium for any numismatic product from the US Mint, ever, on a precious metal item at pretty much the highest spot price for any metal, ever.

    Powerful combination. Line up -- only 17,500 available. Strict limit of one per customer. Get 'em before they're gone. 🤣

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:
    CoinNews.net is showing a price of $3,740 if coin was released today.

    Got to love the incused edge lettering.


    230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Gold Coin Images Unveiled
    By
    Mike Unser -
    November 6, 2024

    The United States Mint has just published several images of the 2024-W Proof Flowing Hair Gold Coin ahead of its scheduled release on Nov. 14 at noon ET. The coin debuts one month after the release of the 2024 Flowing Hair Silver Medal, which proved very popular, lasting just over 24 hours before going off sale.

    Both the coin and medal pay homage to the 230th anniversary of the first dollar coin issued by the U.S. federal government, sharing the design of that 1794 dollar created by Robert Scot.

    The obverse (heads) recreates the original first dollar’s right-facing Liberty profile, encircled by 15 stars symbolizing the states that had ratified the Constitution by 1794. The design preserves the "LIBERTY" inscription and updates the date to "2024." The edge bears the denomination as "HUNDRED CENTS ONE DOLLAR OR UNIT," incused along its rim.


    More in CoinNews.net link

    From the article: "In contrast, if the coin were released today, its price would be $3,740, based on an average gold price in the range of $2,700.00 to $2,749.99 per ounce."

    I'd go with @MetroD's calculation of $3,690 since gold is around $2,650+ as we speak.

  • LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭

    @NJCoin said:

    @Liquidated said:

    @MetroD said:

    @SilverPlatinum said:
    I hope the premium will not be high, so I can afford to order one. :)

    Pricing Range Table

    Column = rightmost;
    Row = average price per ounce

    Example:
    @ average price per ounce = $2,675.00
    Price = $3,690.00
    Premium = $1,015.00

    Why right most vs American Liberty 1 oz 24k?

    Because they just HAD to create a new column just for this.

  • LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2024 6:27PM

    @Goldbully said:
    CoinNews.net is showing a price of $3,740 if coin was released today.

    Got to love the incused edge lettering.


    230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Gold Coin Images Unveiled
    By
    Mike Unser -
    November 6, 2024


    More in CoinNews.net link

    Do you recall which day of the week the mint benchmarks spot for pricing?

    New website does not link to prior cached info.

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Liquidated said:

    @Goldbully said:
    CoinNews.net is showing a price of $3,740 if coin was released today.

    Got to love the incused edge lettering.


    230th Anniversary Flowing Hair Gold Coin Images Unveiled
    By
    Mike Unser -
    November 6, 2024


    More in CoinNews.net link

    Do you recall which day of the week the mint benchmarks spot for pricing?

    New website does not link to prior cached info.

    I believe it's Wednesday and in the afternoon?

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regardless of what youtubers say, the Mint website says no privy
    The early images were probably just re-renders of the silver medal using gold texture.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 6, 2024 7:11PM

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Regardless of what youtubers say, the Mint website says no privy
    The early images were probably just re-renders of the silver medal using gold texture.


    With all due respect, NO WAY!

    edited to add: Here are the silver FH specs.


  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Regardless of what youtubers say, the Mint website says no privy
    The early images were probably just re-renders of the silver medal using gold texture.

    But they absolutely were NOT re-renders, as evidenced by the edge lettering. The theory about these being the coins they intend to auction is extremely plausible. The mistake was their posting the images, not creating them in the first place.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,525 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Regardless of what youtubers say, the Mint website says no privy
    The early images were probably just re-renders of the silver medal using gold texture.


    With all due respect, NO WAY!

    edited to add: Here are the silver FH specs.


    well, fair enough

    Collector, occasional seller

  • Mr Lindy Mr Lindy Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Great captures !

    Looks like gold proof is struck with laser etched dies.

    @treybenedict said:

    @ChrisH821 said:
    Regardless of what youtubers say, the Mint website says no privy
    The early images were probably just re-renders of the silver medal using gold texture.



    I’ll let you be the judge…

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2024 6:42AM

    @Liquidated said:

    Do you recall which day of the week the mint benchmarks spot for pricing?

    New website does not link to prior cached info.

    As far as I know, the Mint sets the price using a average, not a specific day.

    Reference #1: https://www.usmint.gov/content/dam/usmint/shop/Pricing-Grid-Instructions.pdf
    Reference #2: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13559062/#Comment_13559062

    W PM serves as a 'tie-breaker' when re-pricing (i.e., for second, and subsequent, sales weeks). Do not know if it is included in the average for the initial release.

    Edited to Add:
    A 'hat tip' to @cagcrisp for the information in the second reference. :)

  • coastaljerseyguycoastaljerseyguy Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The silver metal privy spec should have been labeled 'lottery' or something, but if it was noted Yes, that would be misleading & I would expect to receive which was not going to happen. Maybe the acceptable field value is just Yes or None. But the pics for the silver metal did show the privy and not sure why the Mint pulled the Gold coin privy pics. Pairing the 2 coins with privys would set a high dollar value for sale since this would be the product to own.

  • LiquidatedLiquidated Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭

    @MetroD said:

    @Liquidated said:

    Do you recall which day of the week the mint benchmarks spot for pricing?

    New website does not link to prior cached info.

    As far as I know, the Mint sets the price using a average, not a specific day.

    Reference #1: https://www.usmint.gov/content/dam/usmint/shop/Pricing-Grid-Instructions.pdf
    Reference #2: https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/comment/13559062/#Comment_13559062

    W PM serves as a 'tie-breaker' when re-pricing (i.e., for second, and subsequent, sales weeks). Do not know if it is included in the average for the initial release.

    Edited to Add:
    A 'hat tip' to @cagcrisp for the information in the second reference. :)

    Appreciate this info. So for most part looks like price table reference will be based on weekly London spot averaged ending Wednesday prior to Thurs sale date.

    Seemed like with my last purchase 15 years ago the UHR was not weekly averaged. Hedged this upcoming purchase last December with an ounce of gold and this info will give a good idea of when to sell.

    Thank You!

  • we only have 7 days left until the release date. The mint needs to update the webpage ASAP if they are making 1794 coins with privy mark......

  • Danno44Danno44 Posts: 179 ✭✭✭

    The mint released a video about the gold coin, at the end of the video they show actual coins and it appears there is a privy on them.
    Yes I know the specs say no privy then why release the video?

  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here's the Mint PR Link


    This product is included in the Mint’s Authorized Bulk Purchase Program (ABPP). Products listed in the ABPP will be eligible for early release, carry an AB suffix in the product code, and carry a premium. Early released products are not eligible for discounts.

  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,427 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Goldbully said:

    @Danno44 said:
    The mint released a video about the gold coin, at the end of the video they show actual coins and it appears there is a privy on them.
    Yes I know the specs say no privy then why release the video?


    Good find @Danno44!!


    Anyone tell me what the red arrow is pointing at??



    That would be the mystery privy mark. At least this mystery, with what is actually a pretty obvious answer, was cleared up promptly by the Mint. Which begs the question of why won't they address the missing 25K silver medals?

  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder what the auction venue will be?

    Many happy BST transactions

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