@jwitten said:
But you just said you didn’t say it. When in fact you did. That’s the problem. You are so inconsistent that of course some of your predictions will be right.
@coiner said:
Remember @njcoin - you had MOON money on the 70's ----far exceeding 20k per coin for everything.
So, if we play this like the Price is Right - lets see who is closer without going over
No. Please don't put words in my mouth. Never said "far exceeding" $20K per coin for everything.
I said $20-50K, and I'm sticking with that. Even if some 69s don't quite get to $20K, and that's an open question.
Doesn't matter if they break $15K, given that you are still, stubbornly below $10K, even after seeing the bids right now. No way you are going to see 70s below $20K. I can't believe you don't see that now, but you will in around 13 hours, so it's all good.
For the record, moon money IS $20-50K, given they are modern issues with around $2700 worth of gold in them. Especially when you were predicting $7-9K for all of them, including 70s (other than the "special numbers"), not just the lowest of the 69s, when I was at $20-50K.
Even now you're drawing false confidence from the fictional Greysheet numbers, thinking generic 70s will top out at $12.5K. You are going to be off by A LOT. Especially as compared to me, even if every 69 doesn't make it all the way to $20K, and you try to make a big deal out of that, because "Price is Right" rules.
And some will. By a lot. Others by less.
I STILL believe no 70s will sell for less than $20K. If you are going to want to poke holes, and quibble about what "far exceed" means, have at it. $20K establishing the bottom of a range certainly does not imply that all coins will "far exceed" it. Otherwise, that number would have just been set "far" higher.
I gave a range. I'm sticking to it. $20-50K. I said #1 would "far exceed" $100K. I haven't received any pats on the back over that one yet, and it's the only one where anyone has been proven right or wrong to date.
Please stop twisting. I predicted a range - $20-50K for 70s. Maybe a little less for 69s, but far more than the $6-8K, later revised to $7-9K, called for by others. "Far exceed" is subjective. Some will, others won't.
A few days ago I also predicted some like you would just say I'm a broken clock who happened to be right this time, and that's fine. I called for these to go for far more than most here believed.
It is turning out that I was correct. I don't need you to acknowledge it, because I know it, you know it, and plenty of people following along at home, but not posting, know it. It's all good.
No 70 is going to close below $20K. Some will "far exceed" that level. Others will exceed it by less. 69s will "far exceed" $7-9K. They already have. Maybe they get to $20K, maybe not. I don't think I ever predicted, or guaranteed, that they would.
You said 70s would never hit $20K, because these are not part of a series like the V75 AGEs are. I was right. You were wrong. It doesn't matter to me whether or not you can bring yourself to admit it.
Auction has been advertised for well over a month, start on time...
Nope. They are doing the smart thing and signing up latecomers. Their job is to maximize revenue for the Mint. Not to stick to a schedule. Given the feeding frenzy, it looks like the exact opposite of a "Fail."
@jwitten said:
But you just said you didn’t say it. When in fact you did. That’s the problem. You are so inconsistent that of course some of your predictions will be right.
@coiner said:
Remember @njcoin - you had MOON money on the 70's ----far exceeding 20k per coin for everything.
So, if we play this like the Price is Right - lets see who is closer without going over
No. Please don't put words in my mouth. Never said "far exceeding" $20K per coin for everything.
I said $20-50K, and I'm sticking with that. Even if some 69s don't quite get to $20K, and that's an open question.
Doesn't matter if they break $15K, given that you are still, stubbornly below $10K, even after seeing the bids right now. No way you are going to see 70s below $20K. I can't believe you don't see that now, but you will in around 13 hours, so it's all good.
For the record, moon money IS $20-50K, given they are modern issues with around $2700 worth of gold in them. Especially when you were predicting $7-9K for all of them, including 70s (other than the "special numbers"), not just the lowest of the 69s, when I was at $20-50K.
Even now you're drawing false confidence from the fictional Greysheet numbers, thinking generic 70s will top out at $12.5K. You are going to be off by A LOT. Especially as compared to me, even if every 69 doesn't make it all the way to $20K, and you try to make a big deal out of that, because "Price is Right" rules.
And some will. By a lot. Others by less.
I STILL believe no 70s will sell for less than $20K. If you are going to want to poke holes, and quibble about what "far exceed" means, have at it. $20K establishing the bottom of a range certainly does not imply that all coins will "far exceed" it. Otherwise, that number would have just been set "far" higher.
I gave a range. I'm sticking to it. $20-50K. I said #1 would "far exceed" $100K. I haven't received any pats on the back over that one yet, and it's the only one where anyone has been proven right or wrong to date.
Please stop twisting. I predicted a range - $20-50K for 70s. Maybe a little less for 69s, but far more than the $6-8K, later revised to $7-9K, called for by others. "Far exceed" is subjective. Some will, others won't.
A few days ago I also predicted some like you would just say I'm a broken clock who happened to be right this time, and that's fine. I called for these to go for far more than most here believed.
It is turning out that I was correct. I don't need you to acknowledge it, because I know it, you know it, and plenty of people following along at home, but not posting, know it. It's all good.
No 70 is going to close below $20K. Some will "far exceed" that level. Others will exceed it by less. 69s will "far exceed" $7-9K. They already have. Maybe they get to $20K, maybe not. I don't think I ever predicted, or guaranteed, that they would.
You said 70s would never hit $20K, because these are not part of a series like the V75 AGEs are. I was right. You were wrong. It doesn't matter to me whether or not you can bring yourself to admit it.
Sorry. As soon as I posted that, I went back to check whether it was you or one of my other fans, and I can't find the posts(s). I'll edit out the reference to you.
I'm wondering why PCGS mounted these Privy coins with the Reverse up instead of the obverse? What's special about these coins is the Privy, why wouldn't you want that on the front of the slab?
It will interesting to see where the bidding goes after 2 or 3 hours. Kind of exciting. Haven't enjoyed an auction this much since our farm auctioned last year.
70s bottomed $32/$33, heading back up
69s bottomed $25/$26 heading back up
never got under my bid limit , LOL
Only 1 forum member, not to be named to protect his/her identity, saw this coming!
@JW77 said:
70s bottomed $32/$33, heading back up
69s bottomed $25/$26 heading back up
never got under my bid limit , LOL
Only 1 forum member, not to be named to protect his/her identity, saw this coming!
Is there any real importance to coin #230 other than it's the same number as on the privy.
Nope. But, to me, there is no difference between #2 and #202. Some people just have a thing for numbers. As with the Dusk and Dawn, the first and last sold for huge premiums over the others.
My “team” lot viewed the coins. Fascinating findings on these. It will be great information to have for future offerings of these coins. Congratulations to everyone that won one!
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@JW77 said:
70s bottomed $32/$33, heading back up
69s bottomed $25/$26 heading back up
never got under my bid limit , LOL
Only 1 forum member, not to be named to protect his/her identity, saw this coming!
Even a blind squirrel finds an occasional nut!
A stopped clock is right twice a day.
Lucky guess?🤣😂
Right on cue, and exactly as I predicted some would comment. Looks like I am now batting 1.000, at least with respect to the auction and my fan club's immediate reaction.
Thank you for not disappointing. Don't want you to EVER feel as though you are being left out of any conversation involving me. 🤣😂
@coiner said:
I bet with all that talk, NJCoin will not be a bidder on even one of the coins.
Lots of talk, but not walking the walk.
What walk am I not walking? The one where I cannot afford to spend $20K plus on a single coin?
I never said I could or would. You guys are the ones doing a lot of talking, as though you will be buying anything anywhere close to either side of $10K, or successfully engaging in so-called "retail arbitrage."
You are just going to be blown away with your bids, and left shaking your heads. Claiming that I am nothing more than the broken clock who happened to be right this time. I can't wait. 😀
@coiner said:
It looks like Stacks is now publishing Greysheet and Collectors Price Guide Pricing on the 230 Privy Auctions
Greysheet in 70 - 12,000
Greysheet in 69 - 8,000
@telephoto1 said:
I didn't get a chance to watch this live... why was #154 passed?
@jwitten said:
Does anyone know why 154 was “passed”?
It was a clerical error and actually sold for $34,000. I felt #154 was one of the nicer remaining examples in the True Views. Every coin after #181 had some reverse die issues with tiny mark above the eagle wing tip and two tiny marks on the bottom.
@coiner said:
It looks like Stacks is now publishing Greysheet and Collectors Price Guide Pricing on the 230 Privy Auctions
Greysheet in 70 - 12,000
Greysheet in 69 - 8,000
Comments
Already a Fail
Auction has been advertised for well over a month, start on time...
Question: How long is this auction?
$220k for Lot #11001
edited to add: $280k
edited to add: $320k
As long as it takes. The more bidding activity, the longer the auction.
Tim
I never made a prediction.
Nope. They are doing the smart thing and signing up latecomers. Their job is to maximize revenue for the Mint. Not to stick to a schedule. Given the feeding frenzy, it looks like the exact opposite of a "Fail."
Sorry. As soon as I posted that, I went back to check whether it was you or one of my other fans, and I can't find the posts(s). I'll edit out the reference to you.
Understatement of the year! This is about to get insane.
750000
oops
wrong window
??
Probably a prediction for Lot #1.
May I be the first to pat @NJCoin on the back
This just before the live auction even begins...
Apparently, your definition of “a fail” isn’t the norm.
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Thank you for the kind words!! 😀
what's the safest way to ship a really expensive item to dcarr?
I will second that!!!
Greysheet was so far off!!!
Geeze 69's going WAY over $20k.
Coin #11009 sold for $28k!!
Coin #11010 sold for $29k!!
In your private jet!
@NJCoin just sequeled Revenge of the Nerds...Alpha Betas got their predictions kicked.
I'm wondering why PCGS mounted these Privy coins with the Reverse up instead of the obverse? What's special about these coins is the Privy, why wouldn't you want that on the front of the slab?
In my pick-up truck with me in it.
Did you buy lot #1?> @jakeblue said:
or with me
prices will come down just a tad when we get above 3 digits.
Cashback from Mr. Rebates
It will interesting to see where the bidding goes after 2 or 3 hours. Kind of exciting. Haven't enjoyed an auction this much since our farm auctioned last year.
If they bought it they wouldn't have to ask the safest way to transport it!🧐
Got 3 so far.... NOT
Does anyone know why 154 was “passed”?
Coinsaddict won a few and already listed on ebay.
Buy it nower!
69s ending well.....
The 69s have really held up well thus far. Maybe some will drop to $20k later?
70s bottomed $32/$33, heading back up
69s bottomed $25/$26 heading back up
never got under my bid limit , LOL
Only 1 forum member, not to be named to protect his/her identity, saw this coming!
Worst case, @coiner will always be willing to take anyone out at $6K. 🤣🤣🤣
The future is anyone's guess, but anyone messing around at these prices, looking for an eBay flip, is playing with fire.
LAST ONE....
Clerical error.
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Somebody really wanted that "LAST" coin.
Is there any real importance to coin #230 other than it's the same number as on the privy.
Even a blind squirrel finds an occasional nut!
A stopped clock is right twice a day.
Lucky guess?🤣😂
I didn't get a chance to watch this live... why was #154 passed?
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
Nope. But, to me, there is no difference between #2 and #202. Some people just have a thing for numbers. As with the Dusk and Dawn, the first and last sold for huge premiums over the others.
My “team” lot viewed the coins. Fascinating findings on these. It will be great information to have for future offerings of these coins. Congratulations to everyone that won one!
Wondercoin.
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Wouldn't surprise me if #1 and #230 were purchased by the same person.
Right on cue, and exactly as I predicted some would comment. Looks like I am now batting 1.000, at least with respect to the auction and my fan club's immediate reaction.
Thank you for not disappointing. Don't want you to EVER feel as though you are being left out of any conversation involving me. 🤣😂
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Where does Greysheet get their info from?
It was a clerical error and actually sold for $34,000. I felt #154 was one of the nicer remaining examples in the True Views. Every coin after #181 had some reverse die issues with tiny mark above the eagle wing tip and two tiny marks on the bottom.
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someone contact SB and ask
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