What if several more appear. Wouldn't it knock the price down significantly?
I could almost guarantee if I bought it, within a few weeks a hoard of 69/70DCAM no S’s would show up…….and they’d be giving the darned things away…LOL
That's not much more likely than a roll of legitimately made 1913 V-nickels coming to market or maybe a bag of 1804 dollars is found in mint storage.
Title never passes on stolen property and there is no evidence the '75 dimes were stolen.
Lawsuits filed to obtain a court judgment determining ownership of property can be very time consuming, exhaustive and expensive.
They can also be very interesting depending on the subject matter (for example the Langbord lawsuit over the 10 1933 Double Eagles; and a lawsuit I was aware of whose object was to determine ownership of multiple acres of land adjacent to the Carquinez Straight in California that drains the Sierra Nevada watershed into SF Bay and the Pacific Ocean, the land was created over multiple decades through Accretion and the legal issue for the court to decide was whether the creation of the land was the result of natural Accretion or was the result of human activity [i.e. gold miners during the Gold Rush digging up dirt in the hunt for gold that eventually was washed downstream to become a part of the created acreage that was the subject of the lawsuit; with both sides hiring multiple experts in hydrology, mining and Gold Rush history]).
One of the law's longstanding rules is the when property is stolen, title to same remains with the person who owned it at the time it was stolen (one can not pass title to stolen property). This rule can be applied by owners and their heirs to reclaim stolen property (i.e. art work stolen during WWII), but there are problems that are present in these cases, including how to prove the case with legally admissible evidence; and the application of statutes of limitations and other legal doctrines that favor innocent persons who possess and put property to productive use.
I can just see the bewilderment on the face of my non-collector friend were I to show him my 1975 no 'S' proof dime and then tell him how much I had to pay for it.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
@mr1931S said:
I can just see the bewilderment on the face of my non-collector friend were I to show him my 1975 no 'S' proof dime and then tell him how much I had to pay for it.
You can buy the 1975 dime with the "whispering S"; it will be the showpiece of your whispering collection.
i've gotten a hard tie from parents when i handed out state quarters i got for a quarter
point is, non-collectors don't see value in coin collecting and i wouldn't let that be an influence on what I think the collecting public would value it
Two weeks to go for conclusion of this most interesting auction. Just thinking - if I was in a position to bid (& win), I would crack the dime out, keep the slab & place the coin back within the set it came from. It might be wise to shoot a video of this process. For me, though, an impossible dream!
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is 2.5 times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
I respectfully disagree. The liberty nickel has a great history story and mystique besides being incredibly famous. Just being rare does not translate into being valuable and desirable. Would you rather own the 1913 Libery Nickel or this obscure modern dime in a series Roosevelt dimes which is hardly collected?
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
Apparently it was a "great classic coin" for $50.
I don't know why people can't just say that they aren't interested rather than suggest there is something wrong with people who are interested.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion just a dumb idiot
Isn't your opinion also effectively snide and a little rude? It suggests that the people bidding are falling for an "overrated" coin rather than simply valuing the coin for what it is and expressing their preference for a rarity.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion just a dumb idiot
Isn't your opinion also effectively snide and a little rude? It suggests that the people bidding are falling for an "overrated" coin rather than simply valuing the coin for what it is and expressing their preference for a rarity.
I was simply expressing my opinion that the coin is overvalued. I never said anything about the bidders being stupid or dumb in purchasing this dime. To each his own
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion just a dumb idiot.
Wait- Walkerlover is calling IkesT a “dumb idiot”. Really?
That’s probably grounds alone to give Walkerlover a “time out” from these boards. Yes?
On top of that Walkerlover is badmouthing the No S Dime as “unexciting” and “overrated” while it is in the midst of a highly contested auction - a potential further violation of these boards?
Walkerlover - you might want to move on from this thread until, at least, after the auction is completed.
Wondercoin.
Please visit my website at www.wondercoins.com and my ebay auctions under my user name www.wondercoin.com.
@wondercoin said: @Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion just a dumb idiot.
Wait- Walkerlover is calling IkesT a “dumb idiot”. Really?
That’s probably grounds alone to give Walkerlover a “time out” from these boards. Yes?
On top of that Walkerlover is badmouthing the No S Dime as “unexciting” and “overrated” while it is in the midst of a highly contested auction - a potential further violation of these boards?
Walkerlover - you might want to move on from this thread until, at least, after the auction is completed.
Wondercoin.
sure. I will let the auction pass, but I am not affecting big money investors or collectors with my small opinions. They are seasoned enough
Besides this auction is so well advertised and was brought up for discussion by another poster that I don’t think I am violating any ethical rules. I don’t even think I am badmouthing the coin just stating an opinion which is not popular here. Correct me if I am wrong.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion just a dumb idiot
Calling someone a “dumb idiot” merits a flagged post. In addition to that, your comment was redundant, as it’s not like there are any smart idiots.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
For the cost of a single common date BU 18th century draped bust half dollar one could control the BU roll market in clad dimes.
We each have our own opinion of what's "worthy" to collect and what they are worth.
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion just a dumb idiot
I respectfully disagree. The liberty nickel has a great history story and mystique besides being incredibly famous. Just being rare does not translate into being valuable and desirable. Would you rather own the 1913 Libery Nickel or this obscure modern dime in a series Roosevelt dimes which is hardly collected?
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion just a dumb idiot
Calling someone a “dumb idiot” merits a flagged post. In addition to that, your comment was redundant, as it’s not like there are any smart idiots.
Okay I got carried away but he insulted me first, I didn’t start it. Perhaps my language was too strong and I apologize for that
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
I respectfully disagree. The liberty nickel has a great history story and mystique besides being incredibly famous. Just being rare does not translate into being valuable and desirable. Would you rather own the 1913 Libery Nickel or this obscure modern dime in a series Roosevelt dimes which is hardly collected?
I'd personally prefer to own the no S over the 1913, provided I wouldn't be allowed to sell either. If I could sell the coins, I'd sell the 1913, buy the no S, and start a collection of Proof $20 Saints.
Why? I see the 1913 as more of a manufactured rarity, whereas this is a true rarity.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
And it would cost you three times the current bid of the no S.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
Alex, to each his own regarding which coin someone prefers.
From merriam-Webster.com:
“Grammar & Usage
Commonly Confused
'Couple,' 'Few,' and 'Several': The (Mostly) Definitive Guide
More than several/a few/a couple of you have asked.
What to Know
Couple is used to refer to two things, but is also often used for a small number greater than two. Few is used the same way as couple and also for a number slightly greater than a couple. Several is usually used for a number greater than a couple and a few. Occasionally it is used in the same way as couple and few.”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
And it would cost you three times the current bid of the no S.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
Alex, to each his own regarding which coin someone prefers.
From merriam-Webster.com:
“Grammar & Usage
Commonly Confused
'Couple,' 'Few,' and 'Several': The (Mostly) Definitive Guide
More than several/a few/a couple of you have asked.
What to Know
Couple is used to refer to two things, but is also often used for a small number greater than two. Few is used the same way as couple and also for a number slightly greater than a couple. Several is usually used for a number greater than a couple and a few. Occasionally it is used in the same way as couple and few.”
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
No need to add to this post other than to simply copy/paste it here.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
And it would cost you three times the current bid of the no S.
A better buy in my opinion.
Would you at least agree that the dime is a relatively obscure rarity compared to the 1958 Double die 1955 1942/1 and 1918/7 D S coins
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
Alex, to each his own regarding which coin someone prefers.
From merriam-Webster.com:
“Grammar & Usage
Commonly Confused
'Couple,' 'Few,' and 'Several': The (Mostly) Definitive Guide
More than several/a few/a couple of you have asked.
What to Know
Couple is used to refer to two things, but is also often used for a small number greater than two. Few is used the same way as couple and also for a number slightly greater than a couple. Several is usually used for a number greater than a couple and a few. Occasionally it is used in the same way as couple and few.”
Mark, fair enough! I’ll revise my post.
Alex, please don’t feel any need to edit your post. As far as I’m concerned, it’s just fun with semantics and numbers.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
Also likely a manufactured rarity.
So what is the reason for only 2 1975 no proof dimes. Not manufactured?
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is several times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
Also likely a manufactured rarity.
So what is the reason for only 2 1975 no proof dimes.
Possible but less evidence for it. There's no clear line to a Mint employee.
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That's not much more likely than a roll of legitimately made 1913 V-nickels coming to market or maybe a bag of 1804 dollars is found in mint storage.
Title never passes on stolen property and there is no evidence the '75 dimes were stolen.
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Lawsuits filed to obtain a court judgment determining ownership of property can be very time consuming, exhaustive and expensive.
They can also be very interesting depending on the subject matter (for example the Langbord lawsuit over the 10 1933 Double Eagles; and a lawsuit I was aware of whose object was to determine ownership of multiple acres of land adjacent to the Carquinez Straight in California that drains the Sierra Nevada watershed into SF Bay and the Pacific Ocean, the land was created over multiple decades through Accretion and the legal issue for the court to decide was whether the creation of the land was the result of natural Accretion or was the result of human activity [i.e. gold miners during the Gold Rush digging up dirt in the hunt for gold that eventually was washed downstream to become a part of the created acreage that was the subject of the lawsuit; with both sides hiring multiple experts in hydrology, mining and Gold Rush history]).
One of the law's longstanding rules is the when property is stolen, title to same remains with the person who owned it at the time it was stolen (one can not pass title to stolen property). This rule can be applied by owners and their heirs to reclaim stolen property (i.e. art work stolen during WWII), but there are problems that are present in these cases, including how to prove the case with legally admissible evidence; and the application of statutes of limitations and other legal doctrines that favor innocent persons who possess and put property to productive use.
I can just see the bewilderment on the face of my non-collector friend were I to show him my 1975 no 'S' proof dime and then tell him how much I had to pay for it.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.-Albert Einstein
You can buy the 1975 dime with the "whispering S"; it will be the showpiece of your whispering collection.
i've gotten a hard tie from parents when i handed out state quarters i got for a quarter
point is, non-collectors don't see value in coin collecting and i wouldn't let that be an influence on what I think the collecting public would value it
Still holding at $295K with a little over two weeks to go now.
Two weeks to go for conclusion of this most interesting auction. Just thinking - if I was in a position to bid (& win), I would crack the dime out, keep the slab & place the coin back within the set it came from. It might be wise to shoot a video of this process. For me, though, an impossible dream!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
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$300k with 14 days to go...............
Now $305,000 - 13 more days!
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Make that $310k with a little over 12 days to go.
Don't forget the buyers premium.
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i dunno... i usually view auction items in hand... but the cost to fly there kills the deal
Thanks for the link!
Barely nine days to go.
316 GC members tracking the auction.
$315k with one week to go…..
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Now $320k with a little over 4 days left to go….
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion.
And very few would measure up to the rarity of this coin.
Consider the fact that this coin is 2.5 times the rarity of the 1913 Proof Liberty nickel, and you might think it's undervalued.
Coin Photographer.
Levity time - bidding now @ $330k…..
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
I respectfully disagree. The liberty nickel has a great history story and mystique besides being incredibly famous. Just being rare does not translate into being valuable and desirable. Would you rather own the 1913 Libery Nickel or this obscure modern dime in a series Roosevelt dimes which is hardly collected?
Apparently it was a "great classic coin" for $50.
I don't know why people can't just say that they aren't interested rather than suggest there is something wrong with people who are interested.
Isn't your opinion also effectively snide and a little rude? It suggests that the people bidding are falling for an "overrated" coin rather than simply valuing the coin for what it is and expressing their preference for a rarity.
I was simply expressing my opinion that the coin is overvalued. I never said anything about the bidders being stupid or dumb in purchasing this dime. To each his own
@Walkerlover said:
I can only imagine the great classic coins I could purchase with the money spent on this unexciting overrated modern proof dime error Lol
Says the guy who returns a $50 coin on eBay because he's afraid it won't CAC...
It’s irrelevant to my point of this discussion your snide rude comments. Apparently you are not intelligent enough to discuss the merits of my opinion just a dumb idiot.
Wait- Walkerlover is calling IkesT a “dumb idiot”. Really?
That’s probably grounds alone to give Walkerlover a “time out” from these boards. Yes?
On top of that Walkerlover is badmouthing the No S Dime as “unexciting” and “overrated” while it is in the midst of a highly contested auction - a potential further violation of these boards?
Walkerlover - you might want to move on from this thread until, at least, after the auction is completed.
Wondercoin.
Besides this auction is so well advertised and was brought up for discussion by another poster that I don’t think I am violating any ethical rules. I don’t even think I am badmouthing the coin just stating an opinion which is not popular here. Correct me if I am wrong.
Calling someone a “dumb idiot” merits a flagged post. In addition to that, your comment was redundant, as it’s not like there are any smart idiots.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Alex, a pop of 5 (for the 1913 Liberty nickel) compared to 2 (for the 1975 dime) doesn’t quite make the latter several times rarer.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
For the cost of a single common date BU 18th century draped bust half dollar one could control the BU roll market in clad dimes.
We each have our own opinion of what's "worthy" to collect and what they are worth.
2029 called, they found your cred.
Okay I got carried away but he insulted me first, I didn’t start it. Perhaps my language was too strong and I apologize for that
hurray! bickering is over and another innocent thread won't get locked!
Mark - I can see why you might say that. I define several as more than two, so 2.5x rarer would qualify as "several times rarer". I see this is also the Oxford definition.
Additionally, when you compare the no S dime to the number of coins struck with an S, you get a pretty incredibly low rarity in comparison to a normal Proof. The 1913 Liberty doesn't really compete when you compare it with say all Proof Buffalo nickels struck in 1913.
Coin Photographer.
I'd personally prefer to own the no S over the 1913, provided I wouldn't be allowed to sell either. If I could sell the coins, I'd sell the 1913, buy the no S, and start a collection of Proof $20 Saints.
Why? I see the 1913 as more of a manufactured rarity, whereas this is a true rarity.
Coin Photographer.
For argument sake the 1958 double die cent has dramatic doubling in a most popular series Lincoln Pennie’s compared to the 1975 proof dime and a population of 3
And it would cost you three times the current bid of the no S.
Coin Photographer.
Alex, to each his own regarding which coin someone prefers.
From merriam-Webster.com:
“Grammar & Usage
Commonly Confused
'Couple,' 'Few,' and 'Several': The (Mostly) Definitive Guide
More than several/a few/a couple of you have asked.
What to Know
Couple is used to refer to two things, but is also often used for a small number greater than two. Few is used the same way as couple and also for a number slightly greater than a couple. Several is usually used for a number greater than a couple and a few. Occasionally it is used in the same way as couple and few.”
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
A better buy in my opinion.
Mark, fair enough! I’ll revise my post.
Coin Photographer.
No need to add to this post other than to simply copy/paste it here.
peacockcoins
Also likely a manufactured rarity.
Would you at least agree that the dime is a relatively obscure rarity compared to the 1958 Double die 1955 1942/1 and 1918/7 D S coins
Alex, please don’t feel any need to edit your post. As far as I’m concerned, it’s just fun with semantics and numbers.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
So what is the reason for only 2 1975 no proof dimes. Not manufactured?
Possible but less evidence for it. There's no clear line to a Mint employee.
off topic low end bickering over something we are watching that will go for 300k++
the wannabe moderator says get back on topic