@doubledragon said:
Well, I don't know what I'm going to do with Aaron Rodgers out for the season, I guess I'll follow the Giants, the only team in the NFL yet to score.
I think the good news is that the Giants have nowhere else to go but up from that opening day, home fiasco.
I didn't mind at all the Giants getting pummeled, I just wish the Cowboys hadn't done it. I hate it when Jerry Jones is happy. 😒
Despite Allen's very poor showing I am probably much higher on the Bills than most. I'm sticking with them and the Chiefs as my picks, at least to represent the AFC. Allen is a complete stud. As I've brought up before, he spent time as a pro revamping his throwing motion, this mitigating the huge knock on him. The much improved accuracy, coupled with his arm cannon, plus his ability to run, has made him elite. He is also a gunslinger, and his downfall seems to be that one or two mistakes can give him the "deer in headlights " shell-shocked look, and his mistakes and lack of caution snowball.
i'm in the "than most" camp. i have had the Bills in my own SB contenders conversation for the past few years, but not this one. what i saw on Monday night was enough to remove them. they do not have a running game. they never do. they have Diggs and little else in the receiving corps. i'm not sold on Gabe Davis and Dawson Knox as being difference makers. and then we have Josh Allen. as for him being a complete stud, no he's not. not anymore. there has been a regression taking place ever since Brian Daboll -- who was credited for his development -- left to go coach the Giants. he is undisciplined with the football and makes a slew of injudicious decisions, probably for the reasons i laid out above............the cupboard is barer than you think. he attempts to morph into Superman to overcome their deficiencies on offense, and a handful of turnovers later he does stuff like lose a game to stifler's mom's boyfriend. you cannot be considered a complete stud when that happens.
Buffalo will win a chunk of games like they always do. Allen will show flashes like he always does. but when the dead weight is eliminated comes playoffs time, they'll be taken out.........again. heck, they're not even going to win their own division this year; that distinction is going to go to Miami.
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You make some good points.
I just get the feeling watching them that they could go all the way, atleast to the big game. Only one game, so we shall see.
As for the Dolphins...with the Jets losing Rodgers, and the Bills looking not so good, I'm hoping that my Patriots scoot on in to a wildcard berth.
for the record, i like Allen. i think he's a good kid, plus he's a big-time golfer. check, check in my likability book. this is strictly an eye test take when i watch the Bills play.............i no longer see the Josh Allen from 2020 when he was setting franchise passing records.
@Steven59 said:
So the question is: Will the Jets try to make a trade for Stafford? They were interested about him during the preseason before Rodgers signed.
It would be very hard for them to make that trade when Rodgers is due 115M over the next 3 seasons and the Jets still owe pick(s) to GB from that trade. I doubt that NY would then trade even more picks plus take on Stafford's 120M due through 2023-25.
The Jets owe GB a 2nd round pick in the coming draft. Had Rodgers played 65% of snaps or more it would have been a first round pick. The injury means the Jets keep their first round pick
its more the salary that they'd be taking on by trading for Stafford than it is the picks. Matt is due 20/49.5/50.5M over the next three seasons,there's zero chance that the Jets would be willing to take that on when Arod's future in NY is up in the air like it is. He's owed a crapton of money while being signed thru 2028.
Rodgers contract is 2 years 75 million they reworked the contract when he went there. Theres some option years on it but he gave up a lot of money to go to the Jets. I dont necessarily think they will trade for Stafford but they are in win now mode. They might try and ride it out with Wilson to draft a new QB or try some undrafted QB or someone like Wentz, Foles and Brady has certainly been contacted by them.
@Steven59 said:
So the question is: Will the Jets try to make a trade for Stafford? They were interested about him during the preseason before Rodgers signed.
It would be very hard for them to make that trade when Rodgers is due 115M over the next 3 seasons and the Jets still owe pick(s) to GB from that trade. I doubt that NY would then trade even more picks plus take on Stafford's 120M due through 2023-25.
The Jets owe GB a 2nd round pick in the coming draft. Had Rodgers played 65% of snaps or more it would have been a first round pick. The injury means the Jets keep their first round pick
its more the salary that they'd be taking on by trading for Stafford than it is the picks. Matt is due 20/49.5/50.5M over the next three seasons,there's zero chance that the Jets would be willing to take that on when Arod's future in NY is up in the air like it is. He's owed a crapton of money while being signed thru 2028.
Rodgers contract is 2 years 75 million they reworked the contract when he went there. Theres some option years on it but he gave up a lot of money to go to the Jets. I dont necessarily think they will trade for Stafford but they are in win now mode. They might try and ride it out with Wilson to draft a new QB or try some undrafted QB or someone like Wentz, Foles and Brady has certainly been contacted by them.
My main point was that NY won't be going after Stafford and adding his salary on top of Rodgers was never going to happen.
Sure he has 75M guaranteed on his deal but this injury could turn into much longer than missing just 2023 and NY could possibly end up paying that 75M without him on the field,we'll have to wait and see.
As for his replacement,NY has less than 10M to spend on a free agent QB if they go that route and that certainly won't get Brady but it may get one of the other two you mentioned. Not that it would really matter much whoever they pick when there's a reason why those two are FAs,their best days are long behind them. I don't see NY finding a real difference maker unless they go after someone making backup or rookie scale money and overpaying in picks.
@Steven59 said:
So the question is: Will the Jets try to make a trade for Stafford? They were interested about him during the preseason before Rodgers signed.
It would be very hard for them to make that trade when Rodgers is due 115M over the next 3 seasons and the Jets still owe pick(s) to GB from that trade. I doubt that NY would then trade even more picks plus take on Stafford's 120M due through 2023-25.
The Jets owe GB a 2nd round pick in the coming draft. Had Rodgers played 65% of snaps or more it would have been a first round pick. The injury means the Jets keep their first round pick
its more the salary that they'd be taking on by trading for Stafford than it is the picks. Matt is due 20/49.5/50.5M over the next three seasons,there's zero chance that the Jets would be willing to take that on when Arod's future in NY is up in the air like it is. He's owed a crapton of money while being signed thru 2028.
Rodgers contract is 2 years 75 million they reworked the contract when he went there. Theres some option years on it but he gave up a lot of money to go to the Jets. I dont necessarily think they will trade for Stafford but they are in win now mode. They might try and ride it out with Wilson to draft a new QB or try some undrafted QB or someone like Wentz, Foles and Brady has certainly been contacted by them.
My main point was that NY won't be going after Stafford and adding his salary on top of Rodgers was never going to happen.
Sure he has 75M guaranteed on his deal but this injury could turn into much longer than missing just 2023 and NY could possibly end up paying that 75M without him on the field,we'll have to wait and see.
As for his replacement,NY has less than 10M to spend on a free agent QB if they go that route and that certainly won't get Brady but it may get one of the other two you mentioned. Not that it would really matter much whoever they pick when there's a reason why those two are FAs,their best days are long behind them. I don't see NY finding a real difference maker unless they go after someone making backup or rookie scale money and overpaying in picks.
I dont really think Brady will come back given he was gun shy last year about getting hit, but if he did this would be the situation. Money isnt really an issue as you can manipulate the salary cap by just turning salaries into a signing bonus and adding a bunch of years that neither party has any interest in. The cap is easily manipulated if a team is willing to spend.
Wentz, Foles, Jamis etc arent world beaters but they dont need that, they just need someone that can be average or at least not lose games. Maybe Wilson could be that though hes been horrible in his career so far. Theyve been in contact with a lot of guys once that injury to Rodgers happened
There are a few reasons why I don't see Brady coming back.1) has to do with the money, 2) for the same reason you posted above about being gunshy and 3) Tom hates the Jets,like really hates them over any other team and thats saying something when there's Payton's Colts/Broncos, Eli's Giants and Harvaugh's Ravens who have all had pretty good success against Tom over the years.
I didn't realize that Foles was still in the league up until this previous 2022 season,for some reason I thought he was out of football already. Wentz is just a JAG at this point and his numbers last season were comparable to Zach Wilson although Wilson led the Jets to more wins in less games played than Wentz had. I'm not sure that making a trade for Jameis would be much of an improvement over Wilson either.
If I had to pick one of three I'd probably go with Folk,the other two are just retreads at this point.
If this Jet team just needs a game manager like some people are saying then I'd be calling teams about players like Davis Mills,Gardner Minshew,Case Keenum,Will Levis,Teddy Bridgewater,Andy Dalton but no matter which QB they go with I doubt that we see any type of success from any of them.
@erikthredd said:
There are a few reasons why I don't see Brady coming back.1) has to do with the money, 2) for the same reason you posted above about being gunshy and 3) Tom hates the Jets,like really hates them over any other team and thats saying something when there's Payton's Colts/Broncos, Eli's Giants and Harvaugh's Ravens who have all had pretty good success against Tom over the years.
I didn't realize that Foles was still in the league up until this previous 2022 season,for some reason I thought he was out of football already. Wentz is just a JAG at this point and his numbers last season were comparable to Zach Wilson although Wilson led the Jets to more wins in less games played than Wentz had. I'm not sure that making a trade for Jameis would be much of an improvement over Wilson either.
If I had to pick one of three I'd probably go with Folk,the other two are just retreads at this point.
If this Jet team just needs a game manager like some people are saying then I'd be calling teams about players like Davis Mills,Gardner Minshew,Case Keenum,Will Levis,Teddy Bridgewater,Andy Dalton but no matter which QB they go with I doubt that we see any type of success from any of them.
Money isnt an issue for Brady, the cap can easily be worked around. The issue is Brady being gun shy and whether he wants too. I doubt he wants to
Wentz at least has a high upside, Washington is a terrible franchise no one is going to be successful there, at least not for a while.
The Jets tried to poach a QB from the Rams practice squad but the Rams signed him as their backup to stop them. Theyre in the market for some QB as they only have 2 on the roster.
With their defense they do just need someone to not lose the game and just be average. Wilson is going to have to do it for a few games even if they sign a bigger name while they get caught up to speed.
@erikthredd said:
There are a few reasons why I don't see Brady coming back.1) has to do with the money, 2) for the same reason you posted above about being gunshy and 3) Tom hates the Jets,like really hates them over any other team and thats saying something when there's Payton's Colts/Broncos, Eli's Giants and Harvaugh's Ravens who have all had pretty good success against Tom over the years.
I didn't realize that Foles was still in the league up until this previous 2022 season,for some reason I thought he was out of football already. Wentz is just a JAG at this point and his numbers last season were comparable to Zach Wilson although Wilson led the Jets to more wins in less games played than Wentz had. I'm not sure that making a trade for Jameis would be much of an improvement over Wilson either.
If I had to pick one of three I'd probably go with Folk,the other two are just retreads at this point.
If this Jet team just needs a game manager like some people are saying then I'd be calling teams about players like Davis Mills,Gardner Minshew,Case Keenum,Will Levis,Teddy Bridgewater,Andy Dalton but no matter which QB they go with I doubt that we see any type of success from any of them.
Money isnt an issue for Brady, the cap can easily be worked around. The issue is Brady being gun shy and whether he wants too. I doubt he wants to
Wentz at least has a high upside, Washington is a terrible franchise no one is going to be successful there, at least not for a while.
The Jets tried to poach a QB from the Rams practice squad but the Rams signed him as their backup to stop them. Theyre in the market for some QB as they only have 2 on the roster.
With their defense they do just need someone to not lose the game and just be average. Wilson is going to have to do it for a few games even if they sign a bigger name while they get caught up to speed.
Again,I don't think Brady wants anything to do with the Jets and he's officially out for good.
As for Wentz, i've always considered him overrated and Washington was better off once he got hurt last season. He started 2-4,go hurt and came back later in the year and finished 2-6 overall as starter. Without him Washington went 6-2-1.
I don't think it really matters who the Jets go with because they're in the same boat as Miami & NE,they could look great one week and the opposite the next. All three have certain units that look elite but it won't be enough to make up their deficiencies on the other side of the ball.
@erikthredd said:
There are a few reasons why I don't see Brady coming back.1) has to do with the money, 2) for the same reason you posted above about being gunshy and 3) Tom hates the Jets,like really hates them over any other team and thats saying something when there's Payton's Colts/Broncos, Eli's Giants and Harvaugh's Ravens who have all had pretty good success against Tom over the years.
I didn't realize that Foles was still in the league up until this previous 2022 season,for some reason I thought he was out of football already. Wentz is just a JAG at this point and his numbers last season were comparable to Zach Wilson although Wilson led the Jets to more wins in less games played than Wentz had. I'm not sure that making a trade for Jameis would be much of an improvement over Wilson either.
If I had to pick one of three I'd probably go with Folk,the other two are just retreads at this point.
If this Jet team just needs a game manager like some people are saying then I'd be calling teams about players like Davis Mills,Gardner Minshew,Case Keenum,Will Levis,Teddy Bridgewater,Andy Dalton but no matter which QB they go with I doubt that we see any type of success from any of them.
Money isnt an issue for Brady, the cap can easily be worked around. The issue is Brady being gun shy and whether he wants too. I doubt he wants to
Wentz at least has a high upside, Washington is a terrible franchise no one is going to be successful there, at least not for a while.
The Jets tried to poach a QB from the Rams practice squad but the Rams signed him as their backup to stop them. Theyre in the market for some QB as they only have 2 on the roster.
With their defense they do just need someone to not lose the game and just be average. Wilson is going to have to do it for a few games even if they sign a bigger name while they get caught up to speed.
Again,I don't think Brady wants anything to do with the Jets and he's officially out for good.
As for Wentz, i've always considered him overrated and Washington was better off once he got hurt last season. He started 2-4,go hurt and came back later in the year and finished 2-6 overall as starter. Without him Washington went 6-2-1.
I don't think it really matters who the Jets go with because they're in the same boat as Miami & NE,they could look great one week and the opposite the next. All three have certain units that look elite but it won't be enough to make up their deficiencies on the other side of the ball.
I agree that Brady probably doesnt want to play anymore, but it has nothing to do with it being the Jets. Players dont hate organizations like fans do unless the owner wronged them somehow. Players have played for both the Yankees and Red Sox, Dodgers and SF, Red Wings and Avs etc. Fans care about that players dont.
It does matter who they sign and they will have to sign someone having only 2 QBs on the roster. They have an elite defense they just need something on offense. Miami is a very good team when Tua is healthy, hes just cant and probably wont ever stay healthy.
Levis also isnt an option. He was the first pick in the 2nd round. I know he was technically the 2nd pick but Miami had no first round pick and there were only 31 first rounders this year instead of 32 and Levis went 33rd overall
Aaron Rodgers took to Instagram Thursday night to share the news that he underwent successful surgery Wednesday on his torn Achilles that he suffered early in the game Monday night against the Bills.
“Surgery went great yesterday,” Rodgers posted. “Thank you for all the love and support. And thanks to the GOAT Dr. (Neal S.) ElAttrache and his staff for starting me on the road to recovery.”
@erikthredd said:
There are a few reasons why I don't see Brady coming back.1) has to do with the money, 2) for the same reason you posted above about being gunshy and 3) Tom hates the Jets,like really hates them over any other team and thats saying something when there's Payton's Colts/Broncos, Eli's Giants and Harvaugh's Ravens who have all had pretty good success against Tom over the years.
I didn't realize that Foles was still in the league up until this previous 2022 season,for some reason I thought he was out of football already. Wentz is just a JAG at this point and his numbers last season were comparable to Zach Wilson although Wilson led the Jets to more wins in less games played than Wentz had. I'm not sure that making a trade for Jameis would be much of an improvement over Wilson either.
If I had to pick one of three I'd probably go with Folk,the other two are just retreads at this point.
If this Jet team just needs a game manager like some people are saying then I'd be calling teams about players like Davis Mills,Gardner Minshew,Case Keenum,Will Levis,Teddy Bridgewater,Andy Dalton but no matter which QB they go with I doubt that we see any type of success from any of them.
Money isnt an issue for Brady, the cap can easily be worked around. The issue is Brady being gun shy and whether he wants too. I doubt he wants to
Wentz at least has a high upside, Washington is a terrible franchise no one is going to be successful there, at least not for a while.
The Jets tried to poach a QB from the Rams practice squad but the Rams signed him as their backup to stop them. Theyre in the market for some QB as they only have 2 on the roster.
With their defense they do just need someone to not lose the game and just be average. Wilson is going to have to do it for a few games even if they sign a bigger name while they get caught up to speed.
Again,I don't think Brady wants anything to do with the Jets and he's officially out for good.
As for Wentz, i've always considered him overrated and Washington was better off once he got hurt last season. He started 2-4,go hurt and came back later in the year and finished 2-6 overall as starter. Without him Washington went 6-2-1.
I don't think it really matters who the Jets go with because they're in the same boat as Miami & NE,they could look great one week and the opposite the next. All three have certain units that look elite but it won't be enough to make up their deficiencies on the other side of the ball.
I agree that Brady probably doesnt want to play anymore, but it has nothing to do with it being the Jets. Players dont hate organizations like fans do unless the owner wronged them somehow. Players have played for both the Yankees and Red Sox, Dodgers and SF, Red Wings and Avs etc. Fans care about that players dont.
It does matter who they sign and they will have to sign someone having only 2 QBs on the roster. They have an elite defense they just need something on offense. Miami is a very good team when Tua is healthy, hes just cant and probably wont ever stay healthy.
Levis also isnt an option. He was the first pick in the 2nd round. I know he was technically the 2nd pick but Miami had no first round pick and there were only 31 first rounders this year instead of 32 and Levis went 33rd overall
You must not have been paying attention to Brady's comments throughout his career especially in his later years. He's straight out stated on numerous occasions that he hates the Jets the most. (He also said that he likes beating the Giants, for obvious reasons.)
I'm not sold on the Jets defense being elite,sure they were a great pass defense a year ago but middle of the pack against the run. Josh Allen coughing up four TOs on the MNF game made them look much better than they should have,imo.
We'll seeon how they look with this game manager you keep going about.
I made a mistake with Will Levis,I meant Will Grier.
So Rodgers supposedly had a parabolic chamber delivered to his house. Rumored to help with faster healing. Doesn't seem like there is "faster healing " when it comes to the Achilles.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Come on Jets. How about a win today over the stinkin' Cowboys?
The Cowboys after their 40-0 rout over the Giants, probably think they're better than the 1985 Bears.
Do whatever it takes to win. Cheat if ya have to. Put laxatives in the Cowboys' Gatorade. Jam their earphones. Put slippery oil on the football when the Cowboys are on offense. Something, anything.
@stevek said:
Come on Jets. How about a win today over the stinkin' Cowboys?
The Cowboys after their 40-0 rout over the Giants, probably think they're better than the 1985 Bears.
Do whatever it takes to win. Cheat if ya have to. Put laxatives in the Cowboys' Gatorade. Jam their earphones. Put slippery oil on the football when the Cowboys are on offense. Something, anything.
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I have never rooted for the Jets, but today, since they are playing the Cowboys, I am for the green airplanes.
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@Steven59 said:
So Rodgers supposedly had a parabolic chamber delivered to his house. Rumored to help with faster healing. Doesn't seem like there is "faster healing " when it comes to the Achilles.
*Hyperbaric chamber.
Company here in town manufactures them. They work for faster healing. Sells and ships as fast as his seven employees can finish them.
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@Steven59 said:
So Rodgers supposedly had a parabolic chamber delivered to his house. Rumored to help with faster healing. Doesn't seem like there is "faster healing " when it comes to the Achilles.
*Hyperbaric chamber.
Company here in town manufactures them. They work for faster healing. Sells and ships as fast as his seven employees can finish them.
They do work and athletes have used them for years, but their main benefits are generally for workout recovery. They arent going to turn a year long rehab into 3 months or anything like that. I dont blame him for trying everything possible but unless he has some secret super rich person medical care hes still going to be out for the year
Joe Namath calls for Jets to clean house, starting with Zach Wilson: 'I've seen enough'
As head coach Robert Saleh continues to stand by quarterback Zach Wilson, one prominent former New York Jet has seen enough.
Joe Namath, who quarterbacked the franchise to its only Super Bowl victory in 1969, blasted Wilson and the Jets on social media during their 15-10 loss to the New England Patriots on Sunday. He followed that with a call to clean house during an impassioned interview with YES Network on Monday.
Joe Namath calls for Jets to clean house, starting with Zach Wilson: 'I've seen enough'
As head coach Robert Saleh continues to stand by quarterback Zach Wilson, one prominent former New York Jet has seen enough.
Joe Namath, who quarterbacked the franchise to its only Super Bowl victory in 1969, blasted Wilson and the Jets on social media during their 15-10 loss to the New England Patriots on Sunday. He followed that with a call to clean house during an impassioned interview with YES Network on Monday.
Joe Namath calls for Jets to clean house, starting with Zach Wilson: 'I've seen enough'
As head coach Robert Saleh continues to stand by quarterback Zach Wilson, one prominent former New York Jet has seen enough.
Joe Namath, who quarterbacked the franchise to its only Super Bowl victory in 1969, blasted Wilson and the Jets on social media during their 15-10 loss to the New England Patriots on Sunday. He followed that with a call to clean house during an impassioned interview with YES Network on Monday.
I am still not sure what Saleh's fascination with Zach Wilson is. Seems like Wilson has a million dollar arm and a ten cent brain.
@stevek said:
I'd post some Eagles smack on here, but it appears this thread has been abandoned.
Ah yes, I remember this thread, so much promise.....only to have it all fall apart on the first drive of the Jets season. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go stare at my Aaron Rodgers scream painting and cry.
Congrats to the Jets. An ugly win, but a win is a win.
The Jets coach even fell for the old trick of the Eagles D letting the Jets score a touchdown towards the end of the game. That enabled the Eagles to get the ball back, with a chance to win the game. But the offense still couldn't do squat.
The Jets with Aaron Rodgers may have done some good things this season. But it does appear right now that he will be back for next season.
@erikthredd said:
Regardless of how bad the Jets have played this season, they can at least say that they've twice as many games as the Patriots. 🤣
Not to pile on, and that's not my intention because I've been a Bill Belichick fan for a long time, but a 1-5 record at home is certainly telling, the worst in the NFL.
Mac Jones showed some promise in his first season, but he seems now to be precipitously digressing.
Ya gotta wonder if Belichick is thinking about the R word, although I think the chances of that happening are slim and none.
@stevek said:
Looks like your boy may try playing this season in around a month.
We shall see.
Keep your fingers crossed!
Frankly, i think Rodgers would be a fool to try to come back this season, especially for this type of injury at his age.
If the Jets medical staff was wise, they would nix the idea, and simply state he's unable to play.
I honestly agree with you, wait until next season, get healed up as much as possible, he's risking disaster if he comes back this season, I would honestly hate to see him get injured again. Every snap he takes is going to be nerve wracking to watch if he does come back this year.
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I think the good news is that the Giants have nowhere else to go but up from that opening day, home fiasco.
I didn't mind at all the Giants getting pummeled, I just wish the Cowboys hadn't done it. I hate it when Jerry Jones is happy. 😒
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You make some good points.
I just get the feeling watching them that they could go all the way, atleast to the big game. Only one game, so we shall see.
As for the Dolphins...with the Jets losing Rodgers, and the Bills looking not so good, I'm hoping that my Patriots scoot on in to a wildcard berth.
for the record, i like Allen. i think he's a good kid, plus he's a big-time golfer. check, check in my likability book. this is strictly an eye test take when i watch the Bills play.............i no longer see the Josh Allen from 2020 when he was setting franchise passing records.
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Rodgers contract is 2 years 75 million they reworked the contract when he went there. Theres some option years on it but he gave up a lot of money to go to the Jets. I dont necessarily think they will trade for Stafford but they are in win now mode. They might try and ride it out with Wilson to draft a new QB or try some undrafted QB or someone like Wentz, Foles and Brady has certainly been contacted by them.
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So Rodgers claims today that he will be back next year, hopefully everything goes well and he's correct.
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My main point was that NY won't be going after Stafford and adding his salary on top of Rodgers was never going to happen.
Sure he has 75M guaranteed on his deal but this injury could turn into much longer than missing just 2023 and NY could possibly end up paying that 75M without him on the field,we'll have to wait and see.
As for his replacement,NY has less than 10M to spend on a free agent QB if they go that route and that certainly won't get Brady but it may get one of the other two you mentioned. Not that it would really matter much whoever they pick when there's a reason why those two are FAs,their best days are long behind them. I don't see NY finding a real difference maker unless they go after someone making backup or rookie scale money and overpaying in picks.
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I dont really think Brady will come back given he was gun shy last year about getting hit, but if he did this would be the situation. Money isnt really an issue as you can manipulate the salary cap by just turning salaries into a signing bonus and adding a bunch of years that neither party has any interest in. The cap is easily manipulated if a team is willing to spend.
Wentz, Foles, Jamis etc arent world beaters but they dont need that, they just need someone that can be average or at least not lose games. Maybe Wilson could be that though hes been horrible in his career so far. Theyve been in contact with a lot of guys once that injury to Rodgers happened
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There are a few reasons why I don't see Brady coming back.1) has to do with the money, 2) for the same reason you posted above about being gunshy and 3) Tom hates the Jets,like really hates them over any other team and thats saying something when there's Payton's Colts/Broncos, Eli's Giants and Harvaugh's Ravens who have all had pretty good success against Tom over the years.
I didn't realize that Foles was still in the league up until this previous 2022 season,for some reason I thought he was out of football already. Wentz is just a JAG at this point and his numbers last season were comparable to Zach Wilson although Wilson led the Jets to more wins in less games played than Wentz had. I'm not sure that making a trade for Jameis would be much of an improvement over Wilson either.
If I had to pick one of three I'd probably go with Folk,the other two are just retreads at this point.
If this Jet team just needs a game manager like some people are saying then I'd be calling teams about players like Davis Mills,Gardner Minshew,Case Keenum,Will Levis,Teddy Bridgewater,Andy Dalton but no matter which QB they go with I doubt that we see any type of success from any of them.
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Money isnt an issue for Brady, the cap can easily be worked around. The issue is Brady being gun shy and whether he wants too. I doubt he wants to
Wentz at least has a high upside, Washington is a terrible franchise no one is going to be successful there, at least not for a while.
The Jets tried to poach a QB from the Rams practice squad but the Rams signed him as their backup to stop them. Theyre in the market for some QB as they only have 2 on the roster.
With their defense they do just need someone to not lose the game and just be average. Wilson is going to have to do it for a few games even if they sign a bigger name while they get caught up to speed.
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Again,I don't think Brady wants anything to do with the Jets and he's officially out for good.
As for Wentz, i've always considered him overrated and Washington was better off once he got hurt last season. He started 2-4,go hurt and came back later in the year and finished 2-6 overall as starter. Without him Washington went 6-2-1.
I don't think it really matters who the Jets go with because they're in the same boat as Miami & NE,they could look great one week and the opposite the next. All three have certain units that look elite but it won't be enough to make up their deficiencies on the other side of the ball.
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I agree that Brady probably doesnt want to play anymore, but it has nothing to do with it being the Jets. Players dont hate organizations like fans do unless the owner wronged them somehow. Players have played for both the Yankees and Red Sox, Dodgers and SF, Red Wings and Avs etc. Fans care about that players dont.
It does matter who they sign and they will have to sign someone having only 2 QBs on the roster. They have an elite defense they just need something on offense. Miami is a very good team when Tua is healthy, hes just cant and probably wont ever stay healthy.
Levis also isnt an option. He was the first pick in the 2nd round. I know he was technically the 2nd pick but Miami had no first round pick and there were only 31 first rounders this year instead of 32 and Levis went 33rd overall
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Aaron Rodgers took to Instagram Thursday night to share the news that he underwent successful surgery Wednesday on his torn Achilles that he suffered early in the game Monday night against the Bills.
“Surgery went great yesterday,” Rodgers posted. “Thank you for all the love and support. And thanks to the GOAT Dr. (Neal S.) ElAttrache and his staff for starting me on the road to recovery.”
"The night is darkest before the dawn. And I shall rise yet again,” Rodgers said."
You must not have been paying attention to Brady's comments throughout his career especially in his later years. He's straight out stated on numerous occasions that he hates the Jets the most. (He also said that he likes beating the Giants, for obvious reasons.)
I'm not sold on the Jets defense being elite,sure they were a great pass defense a year ago but middle of the pack against the run. Josh Allen coughing up four TOs on the MNF game made them look much better than they should have,imo.
We'll seeon how they look with this game manager you keep going about.
I made a mistake with Will Levis,I meant Will Grier.
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So Rodgers supposedly had a parabolic chamber delivered to his house. Rumored to help with faster healing. Doesn't seem like there is "faster healing " when it comes to the Achilles.
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
The Jets just signed Joe Namath.
Reportedly for $1 and a lot of incentive bonuses.
Come on Jets. How about a win today over the stinkin' Cowboys?
The Cowboys after their 40-0 rout over the Giants, probably think they're better than the 1985 Bears.
Do whatever it takes to win. Cheat if ya have to. Put laxatives in the Cowboys' Gatorade. Jam their earphones. Put slippery oil on the football when the Cowboys are on offense. Something, anything.
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Sorry, I've been authorized to act on behalf of @doubledragon.
Sorry!
Understood - I knew that DD would soon be off on a world tour to get sympathy for Aaron Rodgers.
alright, now i really want to see someone put laxatives in the cowboys gatorade.
things could get messy. imagine, a muddy field on artificial turf...
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
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I have never rooted for the Jets, but today, since they are playing the Cowboys, I am for the green airplanes.
*Hyperbaric chamber.
Company here in town manufactures them. They work for faster healing. Sells and ships as fast as his seven employees can finish them.
parabolic chamber - *Hyperbaric chamber.
SWING and a miss -
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
They do work and athletes have used them for years, but their main benefits are generally for workout recovery. They arent going to turn a year long rehab into 3 months or anything like that. I dont blame him for trying everything possible but unless he has some secret super rich person medical care hes still going to be out for the year
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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/joe-namath-calls-for-jets-to-clean-house-starting-with-zach-wilson-ive-seen-enough-000458819.html
Joe Namath calls for Jets to clean house, starting with Zach Wilson: 'I've seen enough'
As head coach Robert Saleh continues to stand by quarterback Zach Wilson, one prominent former New York Jet has seen enough.
Joe Namath, who quarterbacked the franchise to its only Super Bowl victory in 1969, blasted Wilson and the Jets on social media during their 15-10 loss to the New England Patriots on Sunday. He followed that with a call to clean house during an impassioned interview with YES Network on Monday.
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And it all comes full circle.
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Shag carpets
Broadway Joe
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At least one of the Ds might stand for Dingo
I'm not sure who was more prolific back then at promoting, Namath or Mantle? 😂
I am still not sure what Saleh's fascination with Zach Wilson is. Seems like Wilson has a million dollar arm and a ten cent brain.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
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so, how badly is KC going to destroy the Jets this week? 2 TD? 3?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I'd post some Eagles smack on here, but it appears this thread has been abandoned.
Ah yes, I remember this thread, so much promise.....only to have it all fall apart on the first drive of the Jets season. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go stare at my Aaron Rodgers scream painting and cry.
Credit where credit is due. Looks like Rodgers is itching to play. You can't fake that.
Congrats to the Jets. An ugly win, but a win is a win.
The Jets coach even fell for the old trick of the Eagles D letting the Jets score a touchdown towards the end of the game. That enabled the Eagles to get the ball back, with a chance to win the game. But the offense still couldn't do squat.
The Jets with Aaron Rodgers may have done some good things this season. But it does appear right now that he will be back for next season.
Anyway, congrats again!
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The old backhanded compliment. I like it!
oh NY Jets thread. We hardly even knew you...
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Looks like your boy may try playing this season in around a month.
We shall see.
Regardless of how bad the Jets have played this season, they can at least say that they've twice as many games as the Patriots. 🤣
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Not to pile on, and that's not my intention because I've been a Bill Belichick fan for a long time, but a 1-5 record at home is certainly telling, the worst in the NFL.
Mac Jones showed some promise in his first season, but he seems now to be precipitously digressing.
Ya gotta wonder if Belichick is thinking about the R word, although I think the chances of that happening are slim and none.
Keep your fingers crossed!
Frankly, i think Rodgers would be a fool to try to come back this season, especially for this type of injury at his age.
If the Jets medical staff was wise, they would nix the idea, and simply state he's unable to play.
I honestly agree with you, wait until next season, get healed up as much as possible, he's risking disaster if he comes back this season, I would honestly hate to see him get injured again. Every snap he takes is going to be nerve wracking to watch if he does come back this year.
I don't think the Jets Medical Staff has enough leverage to dictate his status, they care about their jobs more than anything.
This would be on Saleh 100%
He should have enough integrity to save Rodgers from himself and tell Rodgers he isnt going to.play if that's what it takes