Don't have my exact count, but I'm at just about 100 now. Plenty of them of are in MS conditions too
I know I've got nothing on @WQuarterFreddie and @joeykoins but I'm not disappointed either
Coins are Neato!
"If it's a penny for your thoughts and you put in your two cents worth, then someone...somewhere...is making a penny." - Steven Wright
I'm down with W quarters at $6 for MS65 and would buy a few dozen at that price even though I am not a dealer - I just like them and the idea behind them.
I find coins like this a lot more "honest" than most of the other crap put out by the mint and a welcome relief behind the greed-driven demand for coins like the 230 Anniversary. FH gold, etc.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@WQuarterFreddie said:
Comparing S and W quarters is like comparing apples and oranges.
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Not exactly. Both the "S" and "W" business strike quarters are needed to complete the set.
The "W" quarters were released to circulation, but after 4 to 5 years of roll searching, I would guess that at least half of the 2 million of each design have been discovered. This number will continue to increase.
The 2019 and 2020 "S" quarters each had a mintage of less than one million. They were all sold by the Mint in rolls and 100-coin bags. Many collectors prefer to keep their rolls and bags intact - probably fewer than half the "S" quarters are currently available as single coins. At less than one-tenth the cost of their "W" counterparts, I think most of the "S" quarters are underpriced.
Still searching for W's here...but less and less are out there, and the ones that are, are getting circulated like pocket change...I would have thought values for the 2020 W's would be higher than the 2019's due to the fact that they are the only quarters marked with a privy. Seems like privy marks are all the rage these days!
@Kurisu said:
Don't have my exact count, but I'm at just about 100 now. Plenty of them of are in MS conditions too
I know I've got nothing on @WQuarterFreddie and @joeykoins but I'm not disappointed either
@7Jaguars said:
I'm down with W quarters at $6 for MS65 and would buy a few dozen at that price even though I am not a dealer - I just like them and the idea behind them.
I find coins like this a lot more "honest" than most of the other crap put out by the mint and a welcome relief behind the greed-driven demand for coins like the 230 Anniversary. FH gold, etc.
Yeah me too but don't think we will find any at that price!😎
@WQuarterFreddie said:
Comparing S and W quarters is like comparing apples and oranges.
>
Not exactly. Both the "S" and "W" business strike quarters are needed to complete the set.
The "W" quarters were released to circulation, but after 4 to 5 years of roll searching, I would guess that at least half of the 2 million of each design have been discovered. This number will continue to increase.
The 2019 and 2020 "S" quarters each had a mintage of less than one million. They were all sold by the Mint in rolls and 100-coin bags. Many collectors prefer to keep their rolls and bags intact - probably fewer than half the "S" quarters are currently available as single coins. At less than one-tenth the cost of their "W" counterparts, I think most of the "S" quarters are underpriced.
No doubt that there are much fewer S quarters per version than W quarters but for some reason the demand for them is much lower and so is the price.
A coin is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it and the current market clearly demonstrates the W quarter is in much higher demand.
@Onastone said:
Still searching for W's here...but less and less are out there, and the ones that are, are getting circulated like pocket change...I would have thought values for the 2020 W's would be higher than the 2019's due to the fact that they are the only quarters marked with a privy. Seems like privy marks are all the rage these days!
Happy hunting! Are you searching boxes from the banks? Have you had any success finding any "Uncirculated" rolls in the past year or two?
I stopped CRH a couple years ago because I would only find one W quarter per box on average and the condition of each W was not great.
@jmski52 said:
This thread is reminiscent of all the roll-searching that was done for the 1960 Small Date,
How big is the market for clad quarters these days?
It's virtually nonexistent for the pre-'99 issues.
I seriously doubt there are two million 1971 quarters surviving in any collectible condition at all and perhaps not even 1.000.000.
The coins in circulation are ravaged by scratches and damage and are all heavily worn. Mint sets are gone and almost every one of the Philly quarters surviving in a mint set is tarnished. Many of these could be saved by a soak in acetone and these constitute most of the supply.
Everyone believes the coins are too common to collect but laying your hands on these is tough especially if you want a nice attractive well made example that isn't tarnished. With no market there's no demand and with no demand there's no market.
The coins in circulation are ravaged by scratches and damage and are all heavily worn. Mint sets are gone and almost every one of the Philly quarters surviving in a mint set is tarnished. Many of these could be saved by a soak in acetone and these constitute most of the supply.
There are too few 1971 quarters surviving in circulation to even get a good feel for how few there are. You can't do a proper analysis of their number and condition if you can't find a single specimen. There should be about 30,000,000 survivors but these are buried under mountains of later quarters. But these early dates are all heavily worn because the FED rotates their stocks of quarters on a First In First Out basis. Something has been scratching the coins for a couple decades now and most quarters are heavily scratched and more than one third of the oldest ones are also culls because of severe damage and corrosion.
If collectors started looking for the nice survivors today most of them would probably be damaged before they could be saved. Of course this isn't going to happen because everyone knows there are millions and millions of nice Gems in BU rolls and mint sets.
What's heart wrenching to me isn't that there are so few surviving but that despite there being so few the attrition rate is still staggering. Every day hundreds more of the nice collectible coins are being scratched, damaged, lost, or irrevocably corroded. Every day more than 1000 of the "uncollectible" damaged coins in circulation are permanently lost through various processes.
@Project Numismatics said:
2020 W MS65 greysheet values are $14 - $16 for Samoa, Weir and Salt River. Marsh and Tallgrass are $40.
No idea whether a dealer would offer greysheet for them or what they are going for on eBay.
Thank you for the information! I would appreciate you providing pricing for the 2019 W quarters as well if you don't mind taking the time.
Seems like the greysheet has the Samoa and Tallgrass reversed in price respectively in my opinion.
In my experience, most dealers and forum members have never had an interest in the W quarters yet many are sold on Ebay every day even 5 years after issue and there is still money to be made!😎
The coins in circulation are ravaged by scratches and damage and are all heavily worn. Mint sets are gone and almost every one of the Philly quarters surviving in a mint set is tarnished. Many of these could be saved by a soak in acetone and these constitute most of the supply.
There are too few 1971 quarters surviving in circulation to even get a good feel for how few there are. You can't do a proper analysis of their number and condition if you can't find a single specimen. There should be about 30,000,000 survivors but these are buried under mountains of later quarters. But these early dates are all heavily worn because the FED rotates their stocks of quarters on a First In First Out basis. Something has been scratching the coins for a couple decades now and most quarters are heavily scratched and more than one third of the oldest ones are also culls because of severe damage and corrosion.
If collectors started looking for the nice survivors today most of them would probably be damaged before they could be saved. Of course this isn't going to happen because everyone knows there are millions and millions of nice Gems in BU rolls and mint sets.
What's heart wrenching to me isn't that there are so few surviving but that despite there being so few the attrition rate is still staggering. Every day hundreds more of the nice collectible coins are being scratched, damaged, lost, or irrevocably corroded. Every day more than 1000 of the "uncollectible" damaged coins in circulation are permanently lost through various processes.
I love the passion you have for the 1971 quarters and I wish I had known about them during my time spent CRH. I am sure I tossed many of them back without a thought about their potential value.🤪
I feel the same way about the W quarters!😎
Thank you for taking the time to educate me and other members about them!🤑
@Ebeneezer said:
I've found a total of nine from circulation, none in some time though. What I have been working on is a set in PCGS MS65. Nothing special, just a nice middle ms grade. I'm lacking the 2019 Americam Memorial and 2020 Marsh-Billings due to the fact of cost. Thus far I've picked up eight for $34 or less, that being the American Samoa a week ago, with the cheapest at $19 (Weir Farms) back in 2019. I'm patient, holding out for somewhere in the $35-40 range.
Just checking in. Have you completed your PCGS MS65 set?
Also, I would appreciate your input regarding pricing. Do you agree prices are holding steady and not dropping?🤔
@wondercoin said:
The only reason they might be “apples to oranges” is just how much scarcer the Woman S quarters are as compared to the W quarters:
2022 FIRST YEAR WOMEN QUARTERS: Less than 1,525,000 combined mintages over 5 coins
2019 FIRST YEAR W QUARTERS: 10,000,000 combined mintages over 5 coins.
Wondercoin
Thank you for the information. I had no idea of the mintage limits for these. What is the current pricing for these 2022 First Year Women S quarters both raw and PCGS MS65 grades? My guess is way below the W quarters but I really don't know.
To be clear, my apples to oranges comment refers to distribution availability and demand from collectors.
For whatever reason, the pricing for W quarters far exceeds the pricing for S quarters and in my opinion will continue this trend for many years.😎
The coins in circulation are ravaged by scratches and damage and are all heavily worn. Mint sets are gone and almost every one of the Philly quarters surviving in a mint set is tarnished. Many of these could be saved by a soak in acetone and these constitute most of the supply.
There are too few 1971 quarters surviving in circulation to even get a good feel for how few there are. You can't do a proper analysis of their number and condition if you can't find a single specimen. There should be about 30,000,000 survivors but these are buried under mountains of later quarters. But these early dates are all heavily worn because the FED rotates their stocks of quarters on a First In First Out basis. Something has been scratching the coins for a couple decades now and most quarters are heavily scratched and more than one third of the oldest ones are also culls because of severe damage and corrosion.
If collectors started looking for the nice survivors today most of them would probably be damaged before they could be saved. Of course this isn't going to happen because everyone knows there are millions and millions of nice Gems in BU rolls and mint sets.
What's heart wrenching to me isn't that there are so few surviving but that despite there being so few the attrition rate is still staggering. Every day hundreds more of the nice collectible coins are being scratched, damaged, lost, or irrevocably corroded. Every day more than 1000 of the "uncollectible" damaged coins in circulation are permanently lost through various processes.
I love the passion you have for the 1971 quarters and I wish I had known about them during my time spent CRH. I am sure I tossed many of them back without a thought about their potential value.🤪
I feel the same way about the W quarters!😎
Thank you for taking the time to educate me and other members about them!🤑
I'm a huge fan of the W quarters as well. I have found only three of them because very few new quarters are released into this area since covid and they only are released in bags with all new quarters.
Anything that spurs curiosity or interest in clad quarters is great! There is no bad news and the news has been great for years now. These W mint coins will keep people looking at their change for years. I imagine that 2/3 rds are already found but those last ones could takes years to find. It's great having stuff to look for in circulation again (in case all those states and other quarters aren't enough).
CK: I'm a huge fan of the W quarters as well. I have found only three of them because very few new quarters are released into this area since covid and they only are released in bags with all new quarters.
How many S women quarters from 2022 have you found? Probably 0. Should be interesting to see what happens in next 10-20 years.
Wondercoin
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@wondercoin said:
‘’Comparing S and W quarters is like comparing apples and oranges.’’
Comparing Woman’s’ first year S quarters to W quarters also like apples and Oranges?
Wondercoin.
I would say yes but I have no idea of their current price. since I don't collect them.
What is the current selling price for these S quarters?
2022-S business strike quarters appear to be selling for $60 to $120 per roll. Some designs are more popular than others. Mintage is slightly over 300,000 for each design.
@wondercoin said:
‘’Comparing S and W quarters is like comparing apples and oranges.’’
Comparing Woman’s’ first year S quarters to W quarters also like apples and Oranges?
Wondercoin.
I would say yes but I have no idea of their current price. since I don't collect them.
What is the current selling price for these S quarters?
2022-S business strike quarters appear to be selling for $60 to $120 per roll. Some designs are more popular than others. Mintage is slightly over 300,000 for each design.
Thank you for the information. How much did a roll cost to buy from the Mint?
At a cost of $10/roll of 2019 W quarters version dependent range from $400 to $1,100 most recent completed sales on Ebay.
At a cost of $10/roll of 2020 W quarters version dependent range from $600 to $1,500 most recent completed sales on Ebay.
Now there is additional cost of time and gas acquiring W quarters vs. buying S quarters direct from the Mint but the huge price difference between the S and W quarters is clear to me.😎
How many S women quarters from 2022 have you found? Probably 0. Should be interesting to see what happens in next 10-20 years.
I search dozens of rolls per year plus all of my pocket change and have never gotten even one s-mint Unc quarter of any date. It's not unusual to find impaired proofs and I used to find them with extensive wear back before 1999 and people started looking at their change again.
I started collecting clads back in 1972 when a few rarities began to emerge and FED practices suggested there would be a lot more rarities in the future. It didn't seem possible that more than a half century later the hundreds of rarities would still be ignored. The S-mint clad quarters certainly are among these. The coins were cheap enough buyers could cream off the best and spend the rest and the mintages so low that the cast offs are highly elusive.
Nobody has any of this stuff. I'm still selling a few BU rolls into strength but prices are outrageously low. There are no BU roll markets and even singles are hard to buy and sell. Things like the W and S-mint quarters have stronger markets but the old coins are believed to be too common to collect. There will be almost no supply for many of these regardless of whether or not there is a strong demand. The coins no longer exist. Even those S-mints that have been spent over the years are suffering a 4% annual attrition rate. This same thing is true for most coins made after WWII all over the world; they have not survived. Billions have been melted to make consumer products in a throw away economy.
@7Jaguars said:
I still like these and was sad to only get a single W in change although for minimal monies bought the others on these Boards - thanks to the seller(s)....
I decided in late 2020 that I was going to try to get an entire set of states and NP quarters, from circulation. So I went through 60 rolls of quarters. I did manage to come very close to completing both sets that way (I had to get my sister in Maryland to ship me a bunch of east coast rolls, since P coins don't find their way out to Seattle very reliably), but I did not get even one, single W quarter.
Not trying to start anything BUT S and W quarters as alluded to ARE apples to oranges as the former were sold in large roll quantities of high quality coins and not hard to get for cheap on the ‘bay and other loci.
The latter were unceremoniously dumped into mixtures and banged around a lot, with an overriding point that they are available but not at face as CK and other posters have alluded to.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@7Jaguars said:
Not trying to start anything BUT S and W quarters as alluded to ARE apples to oranges as the former were sold in large roll quantities of high quality coins and not hard to get for cheap on the ‘bay and other loci.
The latter were unceremoniously dumped into mixtures and banged around a lot, with an overriding point that they are available but not at face as CK and other posters have alluded to.
There are differences, but they have more in common than they have differences.
@Onastone said:
Still searching for W's here...but less and less are out there, and the ones that are, are getting circulated like pocket change...I would have thought values for the 2020 W's would be higher than the 2019's due to the fact that they are the only quarters marked with a privy. Seems like privy marks are all the rage these days!
Happy hunting! Are you searching boxes from the banks? Have you had any success finding any "Uncirculated" rolls in the past year or two?
I stopped CRH a couple years ago because I would only find one W quarter per box on average and the condition of each W was not great.
Yes, I was searching a box a week, but now a box every other week from different banks. Yes to finding uncirculated rolls in the past year, actually opened up about five brand new boxes, one Hawaii 2012 and the rest were more recent women's quarters from 22 & 23. (I saved a few choice rolls from those.)
But you are right, searching for W's is tough now, in the last six boxes, I've only found 2 W's, in rough shape, and not a single S mint, and only one silver from 62. I think my total W count is just over 100. I don't know why I'm still searching boxes, I guess it's kind of fun, and you never know what you will find!!! I definitely will keep an eye out for 71's now, come to think of it, I don't remember seeing very many of these, there have been some though. After looking through so many quarters, you can spot a late 60's coin just by looking at George Washington's bust...it's a higher definition and not flattened out like so many of the later ones.
@Onastone said:
Still searching for W's here...but less and less are out there, and the ones that are, are getting circulated like pocket change...I would have thought values for the 2020 W's would be higher than the 2019's due to the fact that they are the only quarters marked with a privy. Seems like privy marks are all the rage these days!
Happy hunting! Are you searching boxes from the banks? Have you had any success finding any "Uncirculated" rolls in the past year or two?
I stopped CRH a couple years ago because I would only find one W quarter per box on average and the condition of each W was not great.
Yes, I was searching a box a week, but now a box every other week from different banks. Yes to finding uncirculated rolls in the past year, actually opened up about five brand new boxes, one Hawaii 2012 and the rest were more recent women's quarters from 22 & 23. (I saved a few choice rolls from those.)
But you are right, searching for W's is tough now, in the last six boxes, I've only found 2 W's, in rough shape, and not a single S mint, and only one silver from 62. I think my total W count is just over 100. I don't know why I'm still searching boxes, I guess it's kind of fun, and you never know what you will find!!! I definitely will keep an eye out for 71's now, come to think of it, I don't remember seeing very many of these, there have been some though. After looking through so many quarters, you can spot a late 60's coin just by looking at George Washington's bust...it's a higher definition and not flattened out like so many of the later ones.
Interesting! During my CRH days I got a box of new 2018. You getting a box of new 2012 is amazing and makes me wonder if anyone is lucky enough to still get an occasional new box of 2019 or 2020 with W quarters in the rolls.🤔
Good luck with your search and enjoy the thrill of the hunt! 😎
@wondercoin said:
‘’Comparing S and W quarters is like comparing apples and oranges.’’
Comparing Woman’s’ first year S quarters to W quarters also like apples and Oranges?
Wondercoin.
I would say yes but I have no idea of their current price. since I don't collect them.
What is the current selling price for these S quarters?
2022-S business strike quarters appear to be selling for $60 to $120 per roll. Some designs are more popular than others. Mintage is slightly over 300,000 for each design.
Thank you for the information. How much did a roll cost to buy from the Mint?
The 2022 "S" business strike quarters were available only in 3-roll (PDS) sets, priced I believe at $54 with a purchase limit of 3 sets and an issue limit of 7500 sets (which translated to 300,000 "S" quarters of each design). In later years the issue limit was raised, making the 2022-S quarters the "keys".
For 2024 the issue limit is 16,625 sets which translates to 665,000 "S" quarters of each design, and the price is $60 for a 3-roll set. There are no household limits.
@Kurisu said:
Don't have my exact count, but I'm at just about 100 now. Plenty of them of are in MS conditions too
I know I've got nothing on @WQuarterFreddie and @joeykoins but I'm not disappointed either
Nice! Congratulations on your success!😎
Are you still searching circulated rolls?
Yup, still regularly getting boxes of (mostly) Loomis quarters from my banks.
I think realistically I'm finding a W about every 10 boxes at this point.
I seem to have slightly better luck with customer rolls but I don't see or get customer rolls nearly as often as vendor rolls.
Coins are Neato!
"If it's a penny for your thoughts and you put in your two cents worth, then someone...somewhere...is making a penny." - Steven Wright
@Kurisu said:
Don't have my exact count, but I'm at just about 100 now. Plenty of them of are in MS conditions too
I know I've got nothing on @WQuarterFreddie and @joeykoins but I'm not disappointed either
Nice! Congratulations on your success!😎
Are you still searching circulated rolls?
Yup, still regularly getting boxes of (mostly) Loomis quarters from my banks.
I think realistically I'm finding a W about every 10 boxes at this point.
I seem to have slightly better luck with customer rolls but I don't see or get customer rolls nearly as often as vendor rolls.
My how times have changed then. Towards the end of 2020 and into 2021 it was hard for me to get coin boxes and it seemed customer rolls were the norm.
My average at that point was one W quarter and one silver quarter per box.
For the w quarter enthusiasts, I just did a search on GC for the 2019-w and 2020-w coins.
There are currently 37 coins graded by Pcgs and Ngc.
The coin grades vary.
All of the coin auctions will end this Sunday or in 4 days and 8 hours.
Only 6 coins have received an opening bid and those are for $2.00 or less.
This maybe because the opening bid is to high, there is very little demand for, or everyone is waiting to do a snipe bid.
Check it out.
Wayne
@7Jaguars said:
Not trying to start anything BUT S and W quarters as alluded to ARE apples to oranges as the former were sold in large roll quantities of high quality coins and not hard to get for cheap on the ‘bay and other loci.
The latter were unceremoniously dumped into mixtures and banged around a lot, with an overriding point that they are available but not at face as CK and other posters have alluded to.
There are differences, but they have more in common than they have differences.
I always like to have more in depth conversations so please elaborate without taking offense.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
@7Jaguars said:
Not trying to start anything BUT S and W quarters as alluded to ARE apples to oranges as the former were sold in large roll quantities of high quality coins and not hard to get for cheap on the ‘bay and other loci.
The latter were unceremoniously dumped into mixtures and banged around a lot, with an overriding point that they are available but not at face as CK and other posters have alluded to.
There are differences, but they have more in common than they have differences.
I always like to have more in depth conversations so please elaborate without taking offense.
I will post the many differences for him when I get the chance. Right now I am enjoying New Year's Day with the family.
To me it's clear there are more differences than commonalities.
@WAYNEAS said:
For the w quarter enthusiasts, I just did a search on GC for the 2019-w and 2020-w coins.
There are currently 37 coins graded by Pcgs and Ngc.
The coin grades vary.
All of the coin auctions will end this Sunday or in 4 days and 8 hours.
Only 6 coins have received an opening bid and those are for $2.00 or less.
This maybe because the opening bid is to high, there is very little demand for, or everyone is waiting to do a snipe bid.
Check it out.
Wayne
I found the auctions but right now I am enjoying New Year's Day with family. If you get the opportunity I would appreciate you posting links to said auctions. 😎
@WQuarterFreddie
I am not savy enough to post links as the http is like 100 characters long. lol
I just re-ran my search and now GC only lists 29 items and has moved some of the coins out to latter auction dates.
I did a Narrow your Search, search after using the Advance search blue link.
I listed in the coin search block 2019-w to 2020-w.
In the grading range, I used from grade 1 to 70.
I then checked the pcgs and ngc tabs under the grading services.
I entered Quarter dollars in the all denomination box and then hit the go button at the bottom.
If you get the results that you want, remember to hit the save this search button for the next time that you want to use it.
Best of luck.
Wayne
@7Jaguars said:
Not trying to start anything BUT S and W quarters as alluded to ARE apples to oranges as the former were sold in large roll quantities of high quality coins and not hard to get for cheap on the ‘bay and other loci.
The latter were unceremoniously dumped into mixtures and banged around a lot, with an overriding point that they are available but not at face as CK and other posters have alluded to.
There are differences, but they have more in common than they have differences.
I always like to have more in depth conversations so please elaborate without taking offense.
They are both part of the same series is the largest one. Both of them are quite plentiful relative to classic rarities, so demand is largely driven by collectors of the series.
I would also argue that both represent a Mint "promotion". Despite the largest difference being the method of distribution that you mentioned, neither of them were minted for commerce and neither were distributed in normal fashion.
There is one other big difference - the mintmark. Some people did collect them just for the unusual W mintmark. But even here, I would argue that there is also a similarity here. In recent decades, S mint coins were only in proof sets. So a business strike S coin is also an unusual mintmark.
So, I agree they aren't identical. However, i do think they are much more alike than different.
@7Jaguars said:
Not trying to start anything BUT S and W quarters as alluded to ARE apples to oranges as the former were sold in large roll quantities of high quality coins and not hard to get for cheap on the ‘bay and other loci.
The latter were unceremoniously dumped into mixtures and banged around a lot, with an overriding point that they are available but not at face as CK and other posters have alluded to.
There are differences, but they have more in common than they have differences.
I always like to have more in depth conversations so please elaborate without taking offense.
Differences:
1) 2019 and 2020 only years W mint mark quarters ever produced by the Mint. S quarters have been produced since 1968 (proofs) and 2012 (circulation).
2) 2020 W quarters are the only quarters ever produced with a privy mark. No S quarters have a privy mark.
3) W quarters were released in to circulation by being mixed in P and D quarter bags. S quarters can be bought directly from the Mint.
4) W quarters were never available for purchase in 40 quarter rolls but S quarters are available in 40 quarter rolls allowing a collector to buy them in Uncirculated condition.
5) The Mint produced less S quarters than W quarters in 2019 and 2020.
6) On average and based on Ebay completed sales, the W quarters sell for much more than S quarters.
Commonalities:
1) They both are part of the Washington America the Beautiful Quarters series.
2) They both have the same obverse/reverse designs just not the same mint mark.
Disclaimer:
The above are my opinions and I did my best to keep them factual.😎
Also, I know much more about W quarters than I know about S quarters.🤣😂
@WAYNEAS said: @WQuarterFreddie
I am not savy enough to post links as the http is like 100 characters long. lol
I just re-ran my search and now GC only lists 29 items and has moved some of the coins out to latter auction dates.
I did a Narrow your Search, search after using the Advance search blue link.
I listed in the coin search block 2019-w to 2020-w.
In the grading range, I used from grade 1 to 70.
I then checked the pcgs and ngc tabs under the grading services.
I entered Quarter dollars in the all denomination box and then hit the go button at the bottom.
If you get the results that you want, remember to hit the save this search button for the next time that you want to use it.
Best of luck.
Wayne
This GC auction for a 2019-W Lowell quarter with the "circle of death" damage raises questions in my mind.
Why would someone bother to have this graded by our host? Why would GC accept this coin for auction and more importantly set such a ridiculously high starting bid for a coin that is essentially worthless?🙄
@WAYNEAS said: @WQuarterFreddie
I am not savy enough to post links as the http is like 100 characters long. lol
I just re-ran my search and now GC only lists 29 items and has moved some of the coins out to latter auction dates.
I did a Narrow your Search, search after using the Advance search blue link.
I listed in the coin search block 2019-w to 2020-w.
In the grading range, I used from grade 1 to 70.
I then checked the pcgs and ngc tabs under the grading services.
I entered Quarter dollars in the all denomination box and then hit the go button at the bottom.
If you get the results that you want, remember to hit the save this search button for the next time that you want to use it.
Best of luck.
Wayne
This GC auction for a 2019-W Lowell quarter with the "circle of death" damage raises questions in my mind.
Why would someone bother to have this graded by our host? Why would GC accept this coin for auction and more importantly set such a ridiculously high starting bid for a coin that is essentially worthless?🙄
@WAYNEAS said: @WQuarterFreddie
I am not savy enough to post links as the http is like 100 characters long. lol
I just re-ran my search and now GC only lists 29 items and has moved some of the coins out to latter auction dates.
I did a Narrow your Search, search after using the Advance search blue link.
I listed in the coin search block 2019-w to 2020-w.
In the grading range, I used from grade 1 to 70.
I then checked the pcgs and ngc tabs under the grading services.
I entered Quarter dollars in the all denomination box and then hit the go button at the bottom.
If you get the results that you want, remember to hit the save this search button for the next time that you want to use it.
Best of luck.
Wayne
This GC auction for a 2019-W Lowell quarter with the "circle of death" damage raises questions in my mind.
Why would someone bother to have this graded by our host? Why would GC accept this coin for auction and more importantly set such a ridiculously high starting bid for a coin that is essentially worthless?🙄
But.....but.....I saw one sell for $5,000 on eBay! The man told me these were the rare rare early discovery coins and If I bought enough of them I could retire early!!!"
@PeakRarities said:
But.....but.....I saw one sell for $5,000 on eBay! The man told me these were the rare rare early discovery coins and If I bought enough of them I could retire early!!!"
Dan, I read you were having a bad day a few days ago. Glad to see you are feeling better!
I see you are spending your time wisely. Must be a slow day for you.
Thank you for your continued interest in W quarters.
@WAYNEAS said: @WQuarterFreddie
I am not savy enough to post links as the http is like 100 characters long. lol
I just re-ran my search and now GC only lists 29 items and has moved some of the coins out to latter auction dates.
I did a Narrow your Search, search after using the Advance search blue link.
I listed in the coin search block 2019-w to 2020-w.
In the grading range, I used from grade 1 to 70.
I then checked the pcgs and ngc tabs under the grading services.
I entered Quarter dollars in the all denomination box and then hit the go button at the bottom.
If you get the results that you want, remember to hit the save this search button for the next time that you want to use it.
Best of luck.
Wayne
This GC auction for a 2019-W Lowell quarter with the "circle of death" damage raises questions in my mind.
Why would someone bother to have this graded by our host? Why would GC accept this coin for auction and more importantly set such a ridiculously high starting bid for a coin that is essentially worthless?🙄
I met you at the Whitman Coin Show in Baltimore a few years ago. I remember you as a very kind person and very willing to help a new collector.
If and when you have a few minutes available, I would appreciate your feedback on my questions regarding the above W quarter currently up for auction on your website. 🤔
To be clear, my questions are not intended as an attack on Great Collections as I respect you and your company.
They are meant to help me better understand online auctions and how they operate.
@WAYNEAS said: @WQuarterFreddie
I am not savy enough to post links as the http is like 100 characters long. lol
I just re-ran my search and now GC only lists 29 items and has moved some of the coins out to latter auction dates.
I did a Narrow your Search, search after using the Advance search blue link.
I listed in the coin search block 2019-w to 2020-w.
In the grading range, I used from grade 1 to 70.
I then checked the pcgs and ngc tabs under the grading services.
I entered Quarter dollars in the all denomination box and then hit the go button at the bottom.
If you get the results that you want, remember to hit the save this search button for the next time that you want to use it.
Best of luck.
Wayne
This GC auction for a 2019-W Lowell quarter with the "circle of death" damage raises questions in my mind.
Why would someone bother to have this graded by our host? Why would GC accept this coin for auction and more importantly set such a ridiculously high starting bid for a coin that is essentially worthless?🙄
I met you at the Whitman Coin Show in Baltimore a few years ago. I remember you as a very kind person and very willing to help a new collector.
If and when you have a few minutes available, I would appreciate your feedback on my questions regarding the above W quarter currently up for auction on your website. 🤔
To be clear, my questions are not intended as an attack on Great Collections as I respect you and your company.
They are meant to help me better understand online auctions and how they operate.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Thank you!😎
Didn't you answer your own question in the other thread? 😎
Since I do not sell coins, was wondering if GC charges a listing fee from the seller no matter if the coin sells or not?
When I first did my search on the W quarters and saw the circle of death coin and its opening bid price, I spent a lot of time examining the coin to see if I was missing something. I feel that I did not but that GC did and thus the listing fee question.
Wayne
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Don't have my exact count, but I'm at just about 100 now. Plenty of them of are in MS conditions too
I know I've got nothing on @WQuarterFreddie and @joeykoins but I'm not disappointed either
Coins are Neato!
"If it's a penny for your thoughts and you put in your two cents worth, then someone...somewhere...is making a penny." - Steven Wright
Interesting, I never knew there was a such thing as a "W" quarter. Guess I will start checking my change. RGDS!
The whole worlds off its rocker, buy Gold™.
BOOMIN!™
I'm down with W quarters at $6 for MS65 and would buy a few dozen at that price even though I am not a dealer - I just like them and the idea behind them.
I find coins like this a lot more "honest" than most of the other crap put out by the mint and a welcome relief behind the greed-driven demand for coins like the 230 Anniversary. FH gold, etc.
Well, just Love coins, period.
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Not exactly. Both the "S" and "W" business strike quarters are needed to complete the set.
The "W" quarters were released to circulation, but after 4 to 5 years of roll searching, I would guess that at least half of the 2 million of each design have been discovered. This number will continue to increase.
The 2019 and 2020 "S" quarters each had a mintage of less than one million. They were all sold by the Mint in rolls and 100-coin bags. Many collectors prefer to keep their rolls and bags intact - probably fewer than half the "S" quarters are currently available as single coins. At less than one-tenth the cost of their "W" counterparts, I think most of the "S" quarters are underpriced.
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Still searching for W's here...but less and less are out there, and the ones that are, are getting circulated like pocket change...I would have thought values for the 2020 W's would be higher than the 2019's due to the fact that they are the only quarters marked with a privy. Seems like privy marks are all the rage these days!
‘’Comparing S and W quarters is like comparing apples and oranges.’’
Comparing Woman’s’ first year S quarters to W quarters also like apples and Oranges?
Wondercoin.
Nice! Congratulations on your success!😎
Are you still searching circulated rolls?
Yeah me too but don't think we will find any at that price!😎
No doubt that there are much fewer S quarters per version than W quarters but for some reason the demand for them is much lower and so is the price.
A coin is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it and the current market clearly demonstrates the W quarter is in much higher demand.
Thank you for taking the time to post!😎
Happy hunting! Are you searching boxes from the banks? Have you had any success finding any "Uncirculated" rolls in the past year or two?
I stopped CRH a couple years ago because I would only find one W quarter per box on average and the condition of each W was not great.
I would say yes but I have no idea of their current price. since I don't collect them.
What is the current selling price for these S quarters?
This thread is reminiscent of all the roll-searching that was done for the 1960 Small Date,
How big is the market for clad quarters these days?
I knew it would happen.
It's virtually nonexistent for the pre-'99 issues.
I seriously doubt there are two million 1971 quarters surviving in any collectible condition at all and perhaps not even 1.000.000.
The coins in circulation are ravaged by scratches and damage and are all heavily worn. Mint sets are gone and almost every one of the Philly quarters surviving in a mint set is tarnished. Many of these could be saved by a soak in acetone and these constitute most of the supply.
Everyone believes the coins are too common to collect but laying your hands on these is tough especially if you want a nice attractive well made example that isn't tarnished. With no market there's no demand and with no demand there's no market.
There are too few 1971 quarters surviving in circulation to even get a good feel for how few there are. You can't do a proper analysis of their number and condition if you can't find a single specimen. There should be about 30,000,000 survivors but these are buried under mountains of later quarters. But these early dates are all heavily worn because the FED rotates their stocks of quarters on a First In First Out basis. Something has been scratching the coins for a couple decades now and most quarters are heavily scratched and more than one third of the oldest ones are also culls because of severe damage and corrosion.
If collectors started looking for the nice survivors today most of them would probably be damaged before they could be saved. Of course this isn't going to happen because everyone knows there are millions and millions of nice Gems in BU rolls and mint sets.
What's heart wrenching to me isn't that there are so few surviving but that despite there being so few the attrition rate is still staggering. Every day hundreds more of the nice collectible coins are being scratched, damaged, lost, or irrevocably corroded. Every day more than 1000 of the "uncollectible" damaged coins in circulation are permanently lost through various processes.
2020 W MS65 greysheet values are $14 - $16 for Samoa, Weir and Salt River. Marsh and Tallgrass are $40.
No idea whether a dealer would offer greysheet for them or what they are going for on eBay.
Thank you for the information! I would appreciate you providing pricing for the 2019 W quarters as well if you don't mind taking the time.
Seems like the greysheet has the Samoa and Tallgrass reversed in price respectively in my opinion.
In my experience, most dealers and forum members have never had an interest in the W quarters yet many are sold on Ebay every day even 5 years after issue and there is still money to be made!😎
I love the passion you have for the 1971 quarters and I wish I had known about them during my time spent CRH. I am sure I tossed many of them back without a thought about their potential value.🤪
I feel the same way about the W quarters!😎
Thank you for taking the time to educate me and other members about them!🤑
Just checking in. Have you completed your PCGS MS65 set?
Also, I would appreciate your input regarding pricing. Do you agree prices are holding steady and not dropping?🤔
The only reason they might be “apples to oranges” is just how much scarcer the Woman S quarters are as compared to the W quarters:
Wondercoin
Thank you for the information. I had no idea of the mintage limits for these. What is the current pricing for these 2022 First Year Women S quarters both raw and PCGS MS65 grades? My guess is way below the W quarters but I really don't know.
To be clear, my apples to oranges comment refers to distribution availability and demand from collectors.
For whatever reason, the pricing for W quarters far exceeds the pricing for S quarters and in my opinion will continue this trend for many years.😎
I'm a huge fan of the W quarters as well. I have found only three of them because very few new quarters are released into this area since covid and they only are released in bags with all new quarters.
Anything that spurs curiosity or interest in clad quarters is great! There is no bad news and the news has been great for years now. These W mint coins will keep people looking at their change for years. I imagine that 2/3 rds are already found but those last ones could takes years to find. It's great having stuff to look for in circulation again (in case all those states and other quarters aren't enough).
CK: I'm a huge fan of the W quarters as well. I have found only three of them because very few new quarters are released into this area since covid and they only are released in bags with all new quarters.
How many S women quarters from 2022 have you found? Probably 0. Should be interesting to see what happens in next 10-20 years.
Wondercoin
2022-S business strike quarters appear to be selling for $60 to $120 per roll. Some designs are more popular than others. Mintage is slightly over 300,000 for each design.
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Thank you for the information. How much did a roll cost to buy from the Mint?
At a cost of $10/roll of 2019 W quarters version dependent range from $400 to $1,100 most recent completed sales on Ebay.
At a cost of $10/roll of 2020 W quarters version dependent range from $600 to $1,500 most recent completed sales on Ebay.
Now there is additional cost of time and gas acquiring W quarters vs. buying S quarters direct from the Mint but the huge price difference between the S and W quarters is clear to me.😎
I search dozens of rolls per year plus all of my pocket change and have never gotten even one s-mint Unc quarter of any date. It's not unusual to find impaired proofs and I used to find them with extensive wear back before 1999 and people started looking at their change again.
I started collecting clads back in 1972 when a few rarities began to emerge and FED practices suggested there would be a lot more rarities in the future. It didn't seem possible that more than a half century later the hundreds of rarities would still be ignored. The S-mint clad quarters certainly are among these. The coins were cheap enough buyers could cream off the best and spend the rest and the mintages so low that the cast offs are highly elusive.
Nobody has any of this stuff. I'm still selling a few BU rolls into strength but prices are outrageously low. There are no BU roll markets and even singles are hard to buy and sell. Things like the W and S-mint quarters have stronger markets but the old coins are believed to be too common to collect. There will be almost no supply for many of these regardless of whether or not there is a strong demand. The coins no longer exist. Even those S-mints that have been spent over the years are suffering a 4% annual attrition rate. This same thing is true for most coins made after WWII all over the world; they have not survived. Billions have been melted to make consumer products in a throw away economy.
I decided in late 2020 that I was going to try to get an entire set of states and NP quarters, from circulation. So I went through 60 rolls of quarters. I did manage to come very close to completing both sets that way (I had to get my sister in Maryland to ship me a bunch of east coast rolls, since P coins don't find their way out to Seattle very reliably), but I did not get even one, single W quarter.
Not trying to start anything BUT S and W quarters as alluded to ARE apples to oranges as the former were sold in large roll quantities of high quality coins and not hard to get for cheap on the ‘bay and other loci.
The latter were unceremoniously dumped into mixtures and banged around a lot, with an overriding point that they are available but not at face as CK and other posters have alluded to.
Well, just Love coins, period.
There are differences, but they have more in common than they have differences.
Yes, I was searching a box a week, but now a box every other week from different banks. Yes to finding uncirculated rolls in the past year, actually opened up about five brand new boxes, one Hawaii 2012 and the rest were more recent women's quarters from 22 & 23. (I saved a few choice rolls from those.)
But you are right, searching for W's is tough now, in the last six boxes, I've only found 2 W's, in rough shape, and not a single S mint, and only one silver from 62. I think my total W count is just over 100. I don't know why I'm still searching boxes, I guess it's kind of fun, and you never know what you will find!!! I definitely will keep an eye out for 71's now, come to think of it, I don't remember seeing very many of these, there have been some though. After looking through so many quarters, you can spot a late 60's coin just by looking at George Washington's bust...it's a higher definition and not flattened out like so many of the later ones.
Interesting! During my CRH days I got a box of new 2018. You getting a box of new 2012 is amazing and makes me wonder if anyone is lucky enough to still get an occasional new box of 2019 or 2020 with W quarters in the rolls.🤔
Good luck with your search and enjoy the thrill of the hunt! 😎
The 2022 "S" business strike quarters were available only in 3-roll (PDS) sets, priced I believe at $54 with a purchase limit of 3 sets and an issue limit of 7500 sets (which translated to 300,000 "S" quarters of each design). In later years the issue limit was raised, making the 2022-S quarters the "keys".
For 2024 the issue limit is 16,625 sets which translates to 665,000 "S" quarters of each design, and the price is $60 for a 3-roll set. There are no household limits.
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Makes me wonder if anyone is lucky enough to still get an occasional new box of 2019 or 2020 with W quarters in the rolls.🤔
Exactly what I was thinking, and I believe there could be some out there!
Yup, still regularly getting boxes of (mostly) Loomis quarters from my banks.
I think realistically I'm finding a W about every 10 boxes at this point.
I seem to have slightly better luck with customer rolls but I don't see or get customer rolls nearly as often as vendor rolls.
Coins are Neato!
"If it's a penny for your thoughts and you put in your two cents worth, then someone...somewhere...is making a penny." - Steven Wright
My how times have changed then. Towards the end of 2020 and into 2021 it was hard for me to get coin boxes and it seemed customer rolls were the norm.
My average at that point was one W quarter and one silver quarter per box.
For the w quarter enthusiasts, I just did a search on GC for the 2019-w and 2020-w coins.
There are currently 37 coins graded by Pcgs and Ngc.
The coin grades vary.
All of the coin auctions will end this Sunday or in 4 days and 8 hours.
Only 6 coins have received an opening bid and those are for $2.00 or less.
This maybe because the opening bid is to high, there is very little demand for, or everyone is waiting to do a snipe bid.
Check it out.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
I always like to have more in depth conversations so please elaborate without taking offense.
Well, just Love coins, period.
I will post the many differences for him when I get the chance. Right now I am enjoying New Year's Day with the family.
To me it's clear there are more differences than commonalities.
I found the auctions but right now I am enjoying New Year's Day with family. If you get the opportunity I would appreciate you posting links to said auctions. 😎
@WQuarterFreddie
I am not savy enough to post links as the http is like 100 characters long. lol
I just re-ran my search and now GC only lists 29 items and has moved some of the coins out to latter auction dates.
I did a Narrow your Search, search after using the Advance search blue link.
I listed in the coin search block 2019-w to 2020-w.
In the grading range, I used from grade 1 to 70.
I then checked the pcgs and ngc tabs under the grading services.
I entered Quarter dollars in the all denomination box and then hit the go button at the bottom.
If you get the results that you want, remember to hit the save this search button for the next time that you want to use it.
Best of luck.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
They are both part of the same series is the largest one. Both of them are quite plentiful relative to classic rarities, so demand is largely driven by collectors of the series.
I would also argue that both represent a Mint "promotion". Despite the largest difference being the method of distribution that you mentioned, neither of them were minted for commerce and neither were distributed in normal fashion.
There is one other big difference - the mintmark. Some people did collect them just for the unusual W mintmark. But even here, I would argue that there is also a similarity here. In recent decades, S mint coins were only in proof sets. So a business strike S coin is also an unusual mintmark.
So, I agree they aren't identical. However, i do think they are much more alike than different.
Differences:
1) 2019 and 2020 only years W mint mark quarters ever produced by the Mint. S quarters have been produced since 1968 (proofs) and 2012 (circulation).
2) 2020 W quarters are the only quarters ever produced with a privy mark. No S quarters have a privy mark.
3) W quarters were released in to circulation by being mixed in P and D quarter bags. S quarters can be bought directly from the Mint.
4) W quarters were never available for purchase in 40 quarter rolls but S quarters are available in 40 quarter rolls allowing a collector to buy them in Uncirculated condition.
5) The Mint produced less S quarters than W quarters in 2019 and 2020.
6) On average and based on Ebay completed sales, the W quarters sell for much more than S quarters.
Commonalities:
1) They both are part of the Washington America the Beautiful Quarters series.
2) They both have the same obverse/reverse designs just not the same mint mark.
Disclaimer:
The above are my opinions and I did my best to keep them factual.😎
Also, I know much more about W quarters than I know about S quarters.🤣😂
This GC auction for a 2019-W Lowell quarter with the "circle of death" damage raises questions in my mind.
Why would someone bother to have this graded by our host? Why would GC accept this coin for auction and more importantly set such a ridiculously high starting bid for a coin that is essentially worthless?🙄
https://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/1407086/2019-W-America-the-Beautiful-Quarter-Lowell-National-Park-PCGS-Genuine-Unc-Details
And it doesn't even qualify for a GreatPhoto!
Odd... favor to a major consignor? Or a typo in the starting bid?
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But.....but.....I saw one sell for $5,000 on eBay! The man told me these were the rare rare early discovery coins and If I bought enough of them I could retire early!!!"
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Dan, I read you were having a bad day a few days ago. Glad to see you are feeling better!
I see you are spending your time wisely. Must be a slow day for you.
Thank you for your continued interest in W quarters.
@ianrussell
I met you at the Whitman Coin Show in Baltimore a few years ago. I remember you as a very kind person and very willing to help a new collector.
If and when you have a few minutes available, I would appreciate your feedback on my questions regarding the above W quarter currently up for auction on your website. 🤔
To be clear, my questions are not intended as an attack on Great Collections as I respect you and your company.
They are meant to help me better understand online auctions and how they operate.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Thank you!😎
Didn't you answer your own question in the other thread? 😎
Since I do not sell coins, was wondering if GC charges a listing fee from the seller no matter if the coin sells or not?
When I first did my search on the W quarters and saw the circle of death coin and its opening bid price, I spent a lot of time examining the coin to see if I was missing something. I feel that I did not but that GC did and thus the listing fee question.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...