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0ronron0ronron Posts: 248 ✭✭✭
edited December 26, 2022 3:19PM in U.S. Coin Forum

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  • kirkminkkirkmink Posts: 172 ✭✭✭✭

    Details, as stated above, and AU-58 from just a brief look.

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  • MasonGMasonG Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The black spots are what's left of whatever was on the coin before it was cleaned.

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 12,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU details, cleaned

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  • DisneyFanDisneyFan Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not PVC ???

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,804 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like it was cleaned. Can't help with spots.

  • lilolmelilolme Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with TomB.
    This one gives that over dipped look to me. (maybe other)
    @0ronron here is a thread with an over dipped coin - similarities?

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1077119/1-1883-o-over-dip

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  • 0ronron0ronron Posts: 248 ✭✭✭

    @lilolme said:

    Agree with TomB.
    This one gives that over dipped look to me. (maybe other)
    @0ronron here is a thread with an over dipped coin - similarities?

    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1077119/1-1883-o-over-dip

    Thank you!! that was very informative, I can see the difference the cleaning makes..

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Joining the consensus.... AU details cleaned. Cheers, RickO

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,932 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As so many have said, cleaned AU.

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  • jclovescoinsjclovescoins Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe UNC details, cleaned. Looks nice despite the cleaning

  • I like it. If your ever thinking of selling it let me know. That's the type of coin I collect, minus the black spots but I could live with them. Such a bummer. It has nice details.

  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,416 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    AU details, cleaned

    As Mark wrote above. If you see a bright coin with many small hits going in all sorts of directions, it's a telltale sign of a cleaning.

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  • BikergeekBikergeek Posts: 203 ✭✭✭✭

    Definitely cleaned, which is a bummer. I could go "UNC" instead of AU but it's kinda academic anyway. You may be interested to know, it's a relatively tough remarriage: the LM-9.2 is a rarity-4 remarriage, comprised of 1830 obverse 5 and reverse L. It's attributable as an LM-9 marriage based on identification of the obv/rev, and as remarriage #2 based on the filled upper loops of the two Ss in STATES and the filling in the right angle of the M of AMERICA. Here's a link to a nice site that some may find helpful (I'm linking your coin but you can back up to the home page to see all the content). https://518616078926146539.weebly.com/1830-lm-9-remarriages.html

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  • 0ronron0ronron Posts: 248 ✭✭✭

    @Bikergeek said:
    Definitely cleaned, which is a bummer. I could go "UNC" instead of AU but it's kinda academic anyway. You may be interested to know, it's a relatively tough remarriage: the LM-9.2 is a rarity-4 remarriage, comprised of 1830 obverse 5 and reverse L. It's attributable as an LM-9 marriage based on identification of the obv/rev, and as remarriage #2 based on the filled upper loops of the two Ss in STATES and the filling in the right angle of the M of AMERICA. Here's a link to a nice site that some may find helpful (I'm linking your coin but you can back up to the home page to see all the content). https://518616078926146539.weebly.com/1830-lm-9-remarriages.html

    Thank you for this information!!
    Something new to learn :)

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,472 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is an example of how numismatic abuse can ruin a coin. Done properly, dipping can improve the appearance of a coin and actually preserve it if what’s there is causing damage. Dip a coin for too long, too often or in too strong of a solution, and you get what you see here.

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