Need help with grade and black spots on 1830 half dime...

0ronron

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gumby1234

Cleaned for sure. Could be carbon spots could be dirt hard to tell.

kirkmink

Details, as stated above, and AU-58 from just a brief look.

MasonG

The black spots are what's left of whatever was on the coin before it was cleaned.

MFeld

AU details, cleaned

DisneyFan

Not PVC ???

Jimnight

Looks like it was cleaned. Can't help with spots.

TomB

The coin appears AU and has absolutely been at least thoroughly dipped. It might also have been cleaned, as well. The black areas are those areas that were burned/embedded/corroded into the surfaces so deeply that they did not come out after the dipping and/or cleaning.

lilolme

Agree with TomB.
This one gives that over dipped look to me. (maybe other)
@0ronron here is a thread with an over dipped coin - similarities?

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1077119/1-1883-o-over-dip

0ronron

@lilolme said:

Agree with TomB.
This one gives that over dipped look to me. (maybe other)
@0ronron here is a thread with an over dipped coin - similarities?

https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1077119/1-1883-o-over-dip

Thank you!! that was very informative, I can see the difference the cleaning makes..

ricko

Joining the consensus.... AU details cleaned. Cheers, RickO

291fifth

As so many have said, cleaned AU.

jclovescoins

Maybe UNC details, cleaned. Looks nice despite the cleaning

[Deleted User]

I like it. If your ever thinking of selling it let me know. That's the type of coin I collect, minus the black spots but I could live with them. Such a bummer. It has nice details.

Elcontador

@MFeld said:
AU details, cleaned

As Mark wrote above. If you see a bright coin with many small hits going in all sorts of directions, it's a telltale sign of a cleaning.

Bikergeek

Definitely cleaned, which is a bummer. I could go "UNC" instead of AU but it's kinda academic anyway. You may be interested to know, it's a relatively tough remarriage: the LM-9.2 is a rarity-4 remarriage, comprised of 1830 obverse 5 and reverse L. It's attributable as an LM-9 marriage based on identification of the obv/rev, and as remarriage #2 based on the filled upper loops of the two Ss in STATES and the filling in the right angle of the M of AMERICA. Here's a link to a nice site that some may find helpful (I'm linking your coin but you can back up to the home page to see all the content). https://518616078926146539.weebly.com/1830-lm-9-remarriages.html

0ronron

@Bikergeek said:
Definitely cleaned, which is a bummer. I could go "UNC" instead of AU but it's kinda academic anyway. You may be interested to know, it's a relatively tough remarriage: the LM-9.2 is a rarity-4 remarriage, comprised of 1830 obverse 5 and reverse L. It's attributable as an LM-9 marriage based on identification of the obv/rev, and as remarriage #2 based on the filled upper loops of the two Ss in STATES and the filling in the right angle of the M of AMERICA. Here's a link to a nice site that some may find helpful (I'm linking your coin but you can back up to the home page to see all the content). https://518616078926146539.weebly.com/1830-lm-9-remarriages.html

Thank you for this information!!
Something new to learn

BillJones

This is an example of how numismatic abuse can ruin a coin. Done properly, dipping can improve the appearance of a coin and actually preserve it if what’s there is causing damage. Dip a coin for too long, too often or in too strong of a solution, and you get what you see here.