This my very first half cent which is pretty corroded and in an ANACS slab with G 4 details. Anything to get excited about?
The date on the obverse is barely visible to the naked eye but I believe it is a widely spaced date because of the lack of gap between the two zeroes in the 200 on the reverse.
Have tried my best to clean up the pics.
Sorry, half cent deal fell through. Twice this year already, I have purchased a coin only to find out a week later that they had sold it previously.
But here is a nice 1802 Draped Bust Large Cent, if you wish to practice attributing for fun. It's fairly easy and with a nice rotated die, which most of my early cents are.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
@burfle23 - There is only one variety in 1829, and this one is not a genuine example. Besides the date font being incorrect on the obverse, there are many missing markets on the reverse. The fact that this example is completely devoid of a die crack is also telling. Thanks for posting it!
@jesbroken - I am not very good at attributing Large Cents, as I only have type coins (which friends attributed for me). I hope that someone sees this thread and is able to attribute that 1802.
C'mon folks - I know you have more half cents to attribute.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
@jesbbroken - While some of the diagnostics are worn away.... I am going to guess that this is a 1795 C-6. I do not know the thickness of the planchet or if there is edge lettering... but I would guess this is a thin planchet with a plain edge (just because that's the more common of the varieties).
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
@NeophyteNumismatist said: @jesbbroken - While some of the diagnostics are worn away.... I am going to guess that this is a 1795 C-6. I do not know the thickness of the planchet or if there is edge lettering... but I would guess this is a thin planchet with a plain edge (just because that's the more common of the varieties).
Yes, it is a C-6a thin planchet.
Thank you and @burfle23 ,
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
OK, I'll jump in here. I have these three in my type set. I know little about them other than what I paid.
Have at em'................................
1st up 1804
next up 1835
and lastly
I would rather join with an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by sheep.
@NeophyteNumismatist said:
I have been thinking about how I can give back to the forum, and get experience in return. I attribute half cents almost everyday on eBay for fun. It's good practice and allows me to better understand the series. Half certs tend to be generically attributed when graded (i.e. spiked chin), and oftentimes not at all.
So...If you have a random half cent and always wondered about it, post it (graded or raw)... and I will do my best to attribute it for you by Cohen Variety. Obviously, the more worn the coin, the more difficult the task, but I will do my best to diagnose and explain the markers.
Also - There are much greater numismatic minds on the board....so, if you know the variety, feel free to call it out. This is not "me against the world", this is for some fun, to help fellow members, and try to engage in numismatic conversations.
May be great, may flop... time will tell. But, I think this is something I can do for the boards.
Now, THIS is what I love about these coin forums!!! Thank you @NeophyteNumismatist, and others, for sharing your knowledge and expertise! This is a great learning experience for all!
Unfortunately, I don't have good pics of my Half Cents. Maybe I can get some by the weekend and share, for your consideration.
Edited to add: 1835 only has 2 die pairs and 1853 only has one 1804 has crosslet 4, 00 are not close, upper fraction not equidistant and outermost leaf points at O in OF.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Edited to add: 1835 only has 2 die pairs and 1853 only has one 1804 has crosslet 4, 00 are not close, upper fraction not equidistant and outermost leaf points at O in OF.
Pardon my ignorance please, but could you expand on the meanings of "C-1 and C-6...I understand the "R" values.
Thanks
I would rather join with an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by sheep.
As Sheldon did the attribution for the Large Cents giving them S#'s, Cohen attributed the Half Cents, thus C#'s. It has to do with the die pairings for each grouping of coins. Breen also had numbers with B, but Sheldon and Cohen were the most accepted, to my knowledge. If you are going to grow your collection of coppers, I would advise investing in a good book, there are many excellent available. Good luck. Now, do realize, there are various type books, including standard information books and then books that specialize in attributing these coins.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Ok, I'm in....I actually found I have eleven (11) Half Cents! Here are my first four. Sorry about the quality of the pics - just quickly shot them with my cell phone and cropped them. No other editing. Some taken through the 2x2. Would also love to know thoughts on grades, if possible.
Might not be able to get much from this 1804. But, seems like it might be the same C-10 (R.1) that @Watchtower has. Mine is just a "hair" lower graded than his.
@jesbroken said:
As Sheldon did the attribution for the Large Cents giving them S#'s, Cohen attributed the Half Cents, thus C#'s. It has to do with the die pairings for each grouping of coins. Breen also had numbers with B, but Sheldon and Cohen were the most accepted, to my knowledge. If you are going to grow your collection of coppers, I would advise investing in a good book, there are many excellent available. Good luck. Now, do realize, there are various type books, including standard information books and then books that specialize in attributing these coins.
Jim
Given my "extensive" (LOL!) Half Cent collection (11 total), maybe it's time I get a good book or three on Half Cents, and maybe early copper in general. Suggestions @jesbbroken or @NeophyteNumismatist or @burfle23......or anyone else for that matter?
Roger S. Cohen's book "American Half Cents" the "Little Half Sisters"
Ronald P. Manley's "The HALF CENT Die State Book 1793-1857"
Robert Power's "U.S. Half Cents 1793-1857"
Ed Fuhrman's "The Half Cent Handbook, Draped Bust Varieties 1800-1808"
Walter Breen's "Encyclopedia of United States Half Cents 1793-1857"
These are a few I own, but more will chip in and maybe offer more intuition than I have. I've only been collecting these half and large coppers for a couple of years and have made many mistakes. Best of luck.
Jim
Edited to add, there is also a RedBook on Large and Half Cents.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I love Ed Fuhrman's set of books, but as @burfle23 has said, you need three books to get through the series. If I were to buy one book on half cents, it would be Eckberg's.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
You might soak it in Acetone and if goop or other foreign object, it may remove it, at least then you will know whether it's the coin itself and not something attached.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
1833 C-1 R.1: There is only one variety for this date. Yours (as you know) doesn't match the variety. There is no die crack on the obverse stars that would be visible in this grade. Also the alignment on the wreath in the legend of the reverse is incorrect to the lettering.
1835 C-2 R.1: There are two varieties for the date with the primary difference being how the close the "S" and "T" are together STATES of the reverse. At first glance, this looks like a C-2, with the ST being close. However, the wreath is not aligned correctly with the legend, and the 1 in the date is not quite the correct font.
Both are counterfeits from the dark side! Thanks for posting them.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
I noticed at first glance that the 35 had the closest ST I had ever seen, so I felt it had to be a counterfeit and never looked further and I, unlike Neo thought the die crack might not have appeared in this grade, but wasn't confident enough to say.
Good discover Neo. I have a trait I developed early in attributing early cents of when I find an impossible state for an attribution I move on to the next state and perhaps shouldn't be so quick to do so.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
@NeophyteNumismatist
Could you please tell me ifnyou know which type this coin is.
I posted it before but it was pretty messed up. You did respond but you said "I think".
Here are new images.
@burfle23 - I thought the reverses came from the same die at first, and had that in my post... but the last "S" in States was different, so I removed the comment. I should have trusted my gut. Thanks for posting!!!
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
I just want to thank you all for offering your expertise to those of us who may not even know what we have, or don't have the resources or knowledge to attribute on our own. In my case, my 11 Half Cents were all "shiny-object" purchases back in the day. I shouldn't have done it, not knowing anything about them! But, much of my collection is like this - I just accumulated because they looked cool! Now that I'm getting back into the hobby (recently retired), it's time to learn, find out what I have, keep what I want, and get rid of what I don't.
Thank you, again, for sharing your knowledge with us! This is a great thread!
Only made one pair of dies for each of these years, therefore, all would be C-1's. All R-1. As previously mentioned, once you decide on your collecting goals, get the book or books needed and study them and then you should be better prepared to make wiser decisions. Also, if you have a coin in mind, present your thoughts as to why you want this specific coin and photos of obv/rev and many here may be able to steer you towards a more knowledgeable decision. Good luck, I envy you as you have a lot of enjoyment coming your way.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
@jesbroken said:
Only made one pair of dies for each of these years, therefore, all would be C-1's. All R-1. As previously mentioned, once you decide on your collecting goals, get the book or books needed and study them and then you should be better prepared to make wiser decisions. Also, if you have a coin in mind, present your thoughts as to why you want this specific coin and photos of obv/rev and many here may be able to steer you towards a more knowledgeable decision. Good luck, I envy you as you have a lot of enjoyment coming your way.
Jim
I'm not sure if I will ever "specialize" in Half Cents, but I do want to learn more about them, and about US Copper coins in general. So, for Half Cents, is sounds like my first book should be The Half Cent, 1793-1857: The Story of America's Greatest Little Coin – January 1, 2019, by William R. Eckberg, correct?
You listed a number of other books for Half Cents, but I think I'll probably start with this one. Would you also suggest just a more general book on US copper? I know there are different standards of grading (e.g. TPGs vs EAC) - do you use the EAC grading standards? Should I look for the Grading Guide for Early American Copper Coins, by the EAC? Or, the Red Book: A Guide Book of Half Cents and Large Cents? Something else?
I think I might also want to pick up a book on Type Coins. Was thinking the Red Book of Type Coins as a starter.
Lots of books. Lots of reading. Lots of learning! So much fun!!!
I think the book I recommend would depend on your goals. If you want to be able to spot varieties, you will need a book that covers the subject. For half cents (in one book) that would be Eckberg's. For Large Cent varieties, you would need a book dedicated to that.
The EAC Grading guide is different, and I absolutely follow and use EAC grading. This book will be eye opening if you are newer. For me, it was hard to believe that "problem" coins are in straight graded holders, but it is true. Now, I cannot unsee it - if the coin has some micro porosity, verdigris, recoloring, etc... you may still find it in a AU-MS holder.
A book on Type coins is great to get you thinking about different series, and may help you to better understand what years/mints come "nicest" for the money. Type collecting is great, because you learn a little bit of everything. I started here (and am still working on my Type set), and it has taught me a lot about coins.
If you decide that you want to go deep on a series, that's when specific books dedicated to a series come in handy.
Good luck and enjoy the ride!
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
I have the grading guide and it is not always available. Yes the Eckberg book is great, as are others, such as Ed Fuhrman's on the Draped Bust Half Cent series. As Neo said, find out first which series and years you plan on collecting, then get the books you need. As both the Large and Half Cents from 1793-1857 are expensive, as can be the books, I would suggest you select one that you feel you can enjoy long term and decide which book or books to get and dig in and yaaay you will love it.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Well, I finally ordered a copy of William Eckberg's The Half Cent. I've depended on Manley and Fuhrman's books and often the others if I didn't find what I wanted. I'll be glad to have it, as I've heard so many testimonials on it's benefits. Thanks all for the recommendation.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Got tired of waiting on that one so ordered another, should be here Monday. Looking forward. Should that bid price stand, $60 would be a great price. Thinking it will not. Will see.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Now I’m not really a half cent collector, but this one has been marinating in my collection for a while. Have a go at it if you please, but I worn you, it isn’t a pretty coin!
Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard
@burfle23 - I am guessing the 1804 is supposed to represent a C-10; a common coin but it's missing the die crack on the reverse, the fonts are puffy and the wreath does not line up correctly. Fake.
The 1807 would be a faux C-1, because there is only one variety for the date. But again, the wreath on the reverse does not line up correctly. Fake.
@Ownerofawheatiehorde - your 1932 is a C-2 (R.1). This was determined by the way the leaf of the wreath lines up under the "E" is STATES. Genuine
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
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What a strange coincidence. I was just writing a post about grading because I am selling it and want to be honest about it.
@NeophyteNumismatist
I'll be posting a tricky dbhc for you as soon as I get it later this week. I will appreciate anyones help with it.
Jim
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When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
What does (R.1) mean?
@jesbroken - I would love to check it out. Thanks!
@Watchtower - R.1 is the coins rating on the rarity scale. The scale goes from R.1 (over 1,250 known examples) to R.10 (unique or nearly so).
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
Good to know and thank you for your input. Learned something new. I like that.
This my very first half cent which is pretty corroded and in an ANACS slab with G 4 details. Anything to get excited about?
The date on the obverse is barely visible to the naked eye but I believe it is a widely spaced date because of the lack of gap between the two zeroes in the 200 on the reverse.
Have tried my best to clean up the pics.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
** Edited to orient the pics the right way
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/quarters/PCGS-2020-quarter-quest/album/247091
Looks like a C-3, R-1+.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
man alive. the date. the date!!!
Sorry, half cent deal fell through. Twice this year already, I have purchased a coin only to find out a week later that they had sold it previously.
But here is a nice 1802 Draped Bust Large Cent, if you wish to practice attributing for fun. It's fairly easy and with a nice rotated die, which most of my early cents are.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
A new one from the Bay @NeophyteNumismatist :
https://www.ebay.com/itm/394443788568?hash=item5bd6ae9118:g:x4IAAOSwWrpj3BEu
@burfle23 - There is only one variety in 1829, and this one is not a genuine example. Besides the date font being incorrect on the obverse, there are many missing markets on the reverse. The fact that this example is completely devoid of a die crack is also telling. Thanks for posting it!
@jesbroken - I am not very good at attributing Large Cents, as I only have type coins (which friends attributed for me). I hope that someone sees this thread and is able to attribute that 1802.
C'mon folks - I know you have more half cents to attribute.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
Here is a 1795 Liberty Cap Half Cent for your pleasure.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
@jesbbroken - While some of the diagnostics are worn away.... I am going to guess that this is a 1795 C-6. I do not know the thickness of the planchet or if there is edge lettering... but I would guess this is a thin planchet with a plain edge (just because that's the more common of the varieties).
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
Fresh from the internet from a rather large seller of large and half cents; one would think he knew better, but...
Yes, it is a C-6a thin planchet.
Thank you and @burfle23 ,
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
OK, I'll jump in here. I have these three in my type set. I know little about them other than what I paid.
Have at em'................................
1st up 1804
next up 1835
and lastly
I would rather join with an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by sheep.
Now, THIS is what I love about these coin forums!!! Thank you @NeophyteNumismatist, and others, for sharing your knowledge and expertise! This is a great learning experience for all!
Unfortunately, I don't have good pics of my Half Cents. Maybe I can get some by the weekend and share, for your consideration.
Thanks again! This thread is AWESOME!!!
Rocking my "shiny-object-syndrome"!!!
My offering:
Jim
1804 C-6
1835 C-1
1853 C-1
Edited to add: 1835 only has 2 die pairs and 1853 only has one 1804 has crosslet 4, 00 are not close, upper fraction not equidistant and outermost leaf points at O in OF.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Pardon my ignorance please, but could you expand on the meanings of "C-1 and C-6...I understand the "R" values.
Thanks
I would rather join with an army of sheep led by a lion, than an army of lions led by sheep.
As Sheldon did the attribution for the Large Cents giving them S#'s, Cohen attributed the Half Cents, thus C#'s. It has to do with the die pairings for each grouping of coins. Breen also had numbers with B, but Sheldon and Cohen were the most accepted, to my knowledge. If you are going to grow your collection of coppers, I would advise investing in a good book, there are many excellent available. Good luck. Now, do realize, there are various type books, including standard information books and then books that specialize in attributing these coins.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Ok, I'm in....I actually found I have eleven (11) Half Cents! Here are my first four. Sorry about the quality of the pics - just quickly shot them with my cell phone and cropped them. No other editing. Some taken through the 2x2. Would also love to know thoughts on grades, if possible.
Might not be able to get much from this 1804. But, seems like it might be the same C-10 (R.1) that @Watchtower has. Mine is just a "hair" lower graded than his.
1826:
1828 12 Stars:
1828 13 Stars:
Rocking my "shiny-object-syndrome"!!!
Don't have the time to spend on the 04 that it needs, but I will propose the following:
Jim
1804 C-8
1826 C-1
1828 #1 C-2
1828 #2 C-1
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Given my "extensive" (LOL!) Half Cent collection (11 total), maybe it's time I get a good book or three on Half Cents, and maybe early copper in general. Suggestions @jesbbroken or @NeophyteNumismatist or @burfle23......or anyone else for that matter?
Rocking my "shiny-object-syndrome"!!!
Roger S. Cohen's book "American Half Cents" the "Little Half Sisters"
Ronald P. Manley's "The HALF CENT Die State Book 1793-1857"
Robert Power's "U.S. Half Cents 1793-1857"
Ed Fuhrman's "The Half Cent Handbook, Draped Bust Varieties 1800-1808"
Walter Breen's "Encyclopedia of United States Half Cents 1793-1857"
These are a few I own, but more will chip in and maybe offer more intuition than I have. I've only been collecting these half and large coppers for a couple of years and have made many mistakes. Best of luck.
Jim
Edited to add, there is also a RedBook on Large and Half Cents.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
The Half Cent 1793-1857
Eckberg, William is a good choice.
I have all 4 of Ed Fuhrman's books but it takes the 1st three to cover the whole series.
I love Ed Fuhrman's set of books, but as @burfle23 has said, you need three books to get through the series. If I were to buy one book on half cents, it would be Eckberg's.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
Again, sorry the pics aren't better - quick shots w/ cell phone.
Rocking my "shiny-object-syndrome"!!!
1 1834 C-1 only 1 die marriage....don't know what is on the rim, whether it be some goop or damage
2 1834 C-1 nicer coin
3 1835 C-2 2 die marriages
4 1851 C-1 only 1 die marriage
Do not know why the large print popped up, not like that as typed.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Could that rim stuff be die clash? Or, planchet flaw? I'm not sure what it could be, either. Looks like it's on both obv and rev.
Rocking my "shiny-object-syndrome"!!!
You might soak it in Acetone and if goop or other foreign object, it may remove it, at least then you will know whether it's the coin itself and not something attached.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
No one took a shot at my posted 1833 and 1835...
@burfle23 - I am in!
1833 C-1 R.1: There is only one variety for this date. Yours (as you know) doesn't match the variety. There is no die crack on the obverse stars that would be visible in this grade. Also the alignment on the wreath in the legend of the reverse is incorrect to the lettering.
1835 C-2 R.1: There are two varieties for the date with the primary difference being how the close the "S" and "T" are together STATES of the reverse. At first glance, this looks like a C-2, with the ST being close. However, the wreath is not aligned correctly with the legend, and the 1 in the date is not quite the correct font.
Both are counterfeits from the dark side! Thanks for posting them.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
I noticed at first glance that the 35 had the closest ST I had ever seen, so I felt it had to be a counterfeit and never looked further and I, unlike Neo thought the die crack might not have appeared in this grade, but wasn't confident enough to say.
Good discover Neo. I have a trait I developed early in attributing early cents of when I find an impossible state for an attribution I move on to the next state and perhaps shouldn't be so quick to do so.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Both are based on the 1826 C-1 with some common marks...
@NeophyteNumismatist
Could you please tell me ifnyou know which type this coin is.
I posted it before but it was pretty messed up. You did respond but you said "I think".
Here are new images.
Is it not a C-10 State 2?
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
@burfle23 - I thought the reverses came from the same die at first, and had that in my post... but the last "S" in States was different, so I removed the comment. I should have trusted my gut. Thanks for posting!!!
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
@Watchtower - It looks like a C-10 to me also. The die crack over the R in America is a pretty obvious marker.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
Last 3 from me, I promise!
I just want to thank you all for offering your expertise to those of us who may not even know what we have, or don't have the resources or knowledge to attribute on our own. In my case, my 11 Half Cents were all "shiny-object" purchases back in the day. I shouldn't have done it, not knowing anything about them! But, much of my collection is like this - I just accumulated because they looked cool! Now that I'm getting back into the hobby (recently retired), it's time to learn, find out what I have, keep what I want, and get rid of what I don't.
Thank you, again, for sharing your knowledge with us! This is a great thread!
Rocking my "shiny-object-syndrome"!!!
Only made one pair of dies for each of these years, therefore, all would be C-1's. All R-1. As previously mentioned, once you decide on your collecting goals, get the book or books needed and study them and then you should be better prepared to make wiser decisions. Also, if you have a coin in mind, present your thoughts as to why you want this specific coin and photos of obv/rev and many here may be able to steer you towards a more knowledgeable decision. Good luck, I envy you as you have a lot of enjoyment coming your way.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I'm not sure if I will ever "specialize" in Half Cents, but I do want to learn more about them, and about US Copper coins in general. So, for Half Cents, is sounds like my first book should be The Half Cent, 1793-1857: The Story of America's Greatest Little Coin – January 1, 2019, by William R. Eckberg, correct?
You listed a number of other books for Half Cents, but I think I'll probably start with this one. Would you also suggest just a more general book on US copper? I know there are different standards of grading (e.g. TPGs vs EAC) - do you use the EAC grading standards? Should I look for the Grading Guide for Early American Copper Coins, by the EAC? Or, the Red Book: A Guide Book of Half Cents and Large Cents? Something else?
I think I might also want to pick up a book on Type Coins. Was thinking the Red Book of Type Coins as a starter.
Lots of books. Lots of reading. Lots of learning! So much fun!!!
Rocking my "shiny-object-syndrome"!!!
I think the book I recommend would depend on your goals. If you want to be able to spot varieties, you will need a book that covers the subject. For half cents (in one book) that would be Eckberg's. For Large Cent varieties, you would need a book dedicated to that.
The EAC Grading guide is different, and I absolutely follow and use EAC grading. This book will be eye opening if you are newer. For me, it was hard to believe that "problem" coins are in straight graded holders, but it is true. Now, I cannot unsee it - if the coin has some micro porosity, verdigris, recoloring, etc... you may still find it in a AU-MS holder.
A book on Type coins is great to get you thinking about different series, and may help you to better understand what years/mints come "nicest" for the money. Type collecting is great, because you learn a little bit of everything. I started here (and am still working on my Type set), and it has taught me a lot about coins.
If you decide that you want to go deep on a series, that's when specific books dedicated to a series come in handy.
Good luck and enjoy the ride!
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
I have the grading guide and it is not always available. Yes the Eckberg book is great, as are others, such as Ed Fuhrman's on the Draped Bust Half Cent series. As Neo said, find out first which series and years you plan on collecting, then get the books you need. As both the Large and Half Cents from 1793-1857 are expensive, as can be the books, I would suggest you select one that you feel you can enjoy long term and decide which book or books to get and dig in and yaaay you will love it.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Well, I finally ordered a copy of William Eckberg's The Half Cent. I've depended on Manley and Fuhrman's books and often the others if I didn't find what I wanted. I'll be glad to have it, as I've heard so many testimonials on it's benefits. Thanks all for the recommendation.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
https://www.ebay.com/itm/404171202243?hash=item5e1a7b1ec3:g:900AAOSw2V1j8odS
Got tired of waiting on that one so ordered another, should be here Monday. Looking forward. Should that bid price stand, $60 would be a great price. Thinking it will not. Will see.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
Here's a couple of gems from "Bosnia and Herzegovina"😎!
Now I’m not really a half cent collector, but this one has been marinating in my collection for a while. Have a go at it if you please, but I worn you, it isn’t a pretty coin!
Type collector, mainly into Seated. -formerly Ownerofawheatiehorde. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON, Gerard
@burfle23 - I am guessing the 1804 is supposed to represent a C-10; a common coin but it's missing the die crack on the reverse, the fonts are puffy and the wreath does not line up correctly. Fake.
The 1807 would be a faux C-1, because there is only one variety for the date. But again, the wreath on the reverse does not line up correctly. Fake.
@Ownerofawheatiehorde - your 1932 is a C-2 (R.1). This was determined by the way the leaf of the wreath lines up under the "E" is STATES. Genuine
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
You beat me, Neo. Just got back and saw the @burle23 post.
Jim
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain