@coolstanley said:
Tennessee vs Georgia in a few weeks. Who wins?
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I think Georgia but I hope Tennessee. That way we'll get to play them again in the SEC Championship in Atlanta.
They won't have the refs in their back pocket in Atlanta.
If Bama loses another game they probably wont be playing in the sec champ game.
I was sitting here thinking, isn't it about the time of year that OSU blows a game against an unranked team?
Wasn't it Iowa and Purdue, the last few years?
I have Michigan beating OSU, making it 2 years in a row.
@Terryoyo2 said:
Cj stroud is an absolute beast. responded to 2 TD vs Rut with a 6er vs Mich st. the under was only 3.5 as well. i feel like he can hit the over almost every week. only 3 picks this season too, 24 td and 3 int. wow buckeyes going all the way i think
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OSU hasn't played a Top 25 team yet. Don't say Notre Dame, they're not even in the Top 40.
Bragging on Stroud beating Rutgers and a terrible MSU team, c'mon man.
@Terryoyo2 said:
Cj stroud is an absolute beast. responded to 2 TD vs Rut with a 6er vs Mich st. the under was only 3.5 as well. i feel like he can hit the over almost every week. only 3 picks this season too, 24 td and 3 int. wow buckeyes going all the way i think
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OSU hasn't played a Top 25 team yet.
Bragging on Stroud beating Rutgers and a terrible MSU team, c'mon man.
Whats Bama's best win a one pointer against Texas? Not much better.
Bama could win out but they have two tough road games in Nov. One against a undefeated, so not so sure they will win their division.
@Bullsitter said: I was sitting here thinking, isn't it about the time of year that OSU blows a game against an unranked team? Wasn't it Iowa and Purdue, the last few years?.
I had to look all this up, but it was Oregon and Michigan in 2021 and Purdue in 2018. That loss to the Boilermakers was when Urban Meyer was HC. Currently it's Ryan Day as the HC. I can't tell if he has a better team(s) or is just a better coach, but he seems to be recruiting on par with past OSU programs and other teams Nationally. As with every conference, the biggest challenge and main objective is the rivalry with Michigan. I think Day underestimated them last season and they appear quite stout again this year.
The thing with Michigan's current iteration is that it all comes down to Blake Corum, a great running back. Donovan Edwards last week was an aberration, he had a fabulous game against a Penn State team that really got exposed as pretty bad. Without Corum, Michigan doesn't have a lot on offense, but he is a TON!!!
@Bullsitter said: They(Alabama) won't lose another game.
I had to look at their schedule....................it seems Alabama has three good games coming up: away against a not too bad LSU and at home against Auburn. The latter is always a game I watch and it doesn't seem to matter what anyone's record is, it's always a good game with some maniacal fans no matter where it's played.
The "test" will be against Mississippi. I have no clue about them because I haven't seen them play this season.
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Team Talent (247 Sports), Team Name, Conference, Sagarin Ranking
Alabama SEC 3
Georgia SEC 2
Ohio State Big 10 1
4 Texas A&M SEC 18
5 Clemson ACC 8
6 Texas Big 12 6
7 Oregon Pac 12 10
8 LSU SEC 15
9 Oklahoma Big 12 22
10 Notre Dame Indy 25
Sagarin rankings Oct. 21:
1 Ohio State BIG TEN-EAST (1)
2 Georgia SEC-EAST (1)
3 Alabama SEC-WEST (2)
4 Michigan BIG TEN-EAST (2)
5 Tennessee SEC-EAST (3)
6 Texas BIG 12 (1)
7 Southern California PAC-12 SOUTH (1)
8 Clemson ACC-ATLANTIC (1)
9 Utah PAC-12 SOUTH (2)
10 Oregon PAC-12 NORTH (3)
11 Oklahoma State BIG 12 (2)
12 Mississippi SEC-WEST (4)
13 TCU BIG 12 (3)
14 Mississippi State SEC-WEST (5)
15 LSU SEC-WEST (6)
16 Kansas State BIG 12 (4)
17 Central Florida AAC (1)
18 Texas A&M SEC-WEST (7)
19 UCLA PAC-12 SOUTH (4)
20 Penn State BIG TEN-EAST (3)
21 Wake Forest ACC-ATLANTIC (2)
22 Oklahoma BIG 12 (5)
23 Iowa State BIG 12 (6)
24 Illinois BIG TEN-WEST (4)
25 Notre Dame (1)
Looks like the top 3 teams have the most talent. Some of these teams are playing lower than their talent, others are clearly playing above. It also shows why better Big 12 and Pac 12 teams have been victims of corporate raiding (think Money by Pink Floyd) - if USC, UCLAW, AM, UT, and OU stayed put, would the Pac-12 and B-12 be better than the B-10? Probably or at least equals.
We have a 1/2 season to go b4 we see if the numbers for talent equal to the numbers for ranking. I should mention that UCLAW is 19 for Sagarin and 27 for team talent. I think this shows how coaching and execution is important as well as team talent (and schedule).
The Ducks-Bruins is a key game tomorrow, if whomever wins that game wins out for the season, a likely playoff member. We will see, this is why they play. I'd like to see 4 teams from 4 different conferences representing in the playoffs. It is sad, pathetic, and politics that SEC always has >1 team represented. Don't care if your conf is potentially better than the others, you can't win your conf why would you be in the 4 team playoffs?
I thought the committee was supposed to pick the 4 best teams regardless of conference championships.
Michigan and Cinncy had a chance to beat Georgia and Bama last year to prove the SEC shouldn't have been there.
They both got clocked and the two SEC teams played for it all.
BTW...Georgia didn't win the SEC conference championship but ended up National Champs.
And that's because the committee picked the 4 best teams, not politics.
As far as the Sagarin poll, any poll that has Oklahoma, Notre Dame and A&M in the top 25 isn't legit.
@Bullsitter said: BTW...Georgia didn't win the SEC conference championship but ended up National Champs.
And that's because the committee picked the 4 best teams, not politics.
The current iteration and all past National polls are absolutely "politics" which is why they are the wrong approach. JMHO, but no team, no matter how good, should play for the Championship if they can't even win their conference, yet the committee has allowed that to happen on at least two occasions(I think).
But...................let's not dwell on the past, who's everyone watching today?? First up is FOX Saturday with Gus Johnson, yahoo. He really calls a good game
The current iteration and all past National polls are absolutely "politics" which is why they are the wrong approach. JMHO, but no team, no matter how good, should play for the Championship if they can't even win their conference, yet the committee has allowed that to happen on at least two occasions(I think).
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Once was 2016 when PSU won the conference championship and beat OSU 24-21.
Then the committee snubbed PSU, politics of course, and let OSU in to play Clemson.
BTW...Georgia didn't win the SEC conference championship but ended up National Champs.
Sure helps when you have a second crack at the same team dont you think? HARD to beat the same team twice in one year. As fans, we didnt want to see the same game twice. Hurts the sport. Georgia didn't deserve a playoff spot after getting whacked in their conference game. The current system is a joke.
The current iteration and all past National polls are absolutely "politics" which is why they are the wrong approach. JMHO, but no team, no matter how good, should play for the Championship if they can't even win their conference, yet the committee has allowed that to happen on at least two occasions(I think).
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Once was 2016 when PSU won the conference championship and beat OSU 24-21.
Then the committee snubbed PSU, politics of course, and let OSU in to play Clemson.
Best four teams regardless of what conference they are in. At the end of the year one of the best teams may have had two losses earlier in the year but have really turned it on. However, two losses seem to be an automatic disqualifier.
BTW I was at the OSU Clemson Fiesta Bowl. Game was closer than the score would indicate. Buckeyes were in it right up to the opening kickoff.
Yep, smoked it before the game in the visiting locker room....and they lost. Goggle it for more info.
Texas A&M cornerback Denver Harris, wide receiver Chris Marshall and offensive lineman PJ Williams have been suspended indefinitely as a result of a locker room incident at South Carolina, a source confirmed to The Athletic on Tuesday.
Aggies coach Jimbo Fisher declined to comment Wednesday when asked about the suspensions on the SEC coaches teleconference.
“We’re not speaking on that right now,” Fisher said. “We keep everything we do in house.”
Another College Football Saturday!!!! Things are limited for me today, I'll get to watch OSU vs. PSU at noon but then we're headed to a wedding so no more football for me.
It will only remain tough if Ryan Day insists on playing to the strengths of Penn State. His play calling on offense through the first half has been laughable and the tackling on defense hasn't been any better. Watching the OSU running game makes me wonder why the plays seem to be taking so long to develop.
In the end, it was Penn State winning 55 minutes of play and Ohio State absolutely shellacking them for five minutes, a really strange game. The stat line for JT Tuimoloau is ridiculous:
--- three tackles/three assists with two sacks.
--- one blocked pass that resulted in an interception.
--- two interceptions, one returned for a TD.
--- one of his sacks resulted in a strip/fumble that he recovered.
Next Saturday should go a long way towards settling the SEC and, hence, the Playoff picture. The rest will have to wait till Ohio State vs. Michigan. Other than those three games the rest of the season might be predictable and tame.
@Maywood said:
CFP should resemble the other Polls closely unless the voters are drunk.
Georgia.
Ohio State.
Tennessee.
Michigan
Alabama.
TCU.
Clemson.
Oregon.
USC.
UCLA.
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Tennessee has played the toughest schedule of the top 4 and won them all.
Will the committee give them credit. I think their win over Alabama propels them to the top spot this week.
@Bullsitter, that may be true but I think this "committee" is most interested in lining up the four top spots to have the games they want. That means they keep Georgia at number one, Tennessee at number three and Alabama at number five, Next weekend sorts those three out which will most likely leave Ohio State and Michigan at two/three and two of those SEC teams at one and four. The unplanned outcome will be if Alabama loses to LSU which will really piss off the voters.
I don't see Kentucky ranked in any of the major polls, AP or Coaches, and their play on Saturday should show that they aren't as strong as previously thought.
If LSU, Notre Dame and Tennessee all win this weekend I think there will be people jumping from tall building and a committee voting while they're all wearing diapers.
Georgia beats Tenn, wins out and goes to the SEC Championship game, 12-0.
Bama beats LSU , wins out and goes to the SEC Championship game, 11-1 (lost to Tenn).
Tenn wins out and finishes 11-1 (lost to Georgia)
Alabama beats Georgia in the SEC Championship game.
Each team has 1 loss.
I'm thinking the CFP rankings at the end of the regular season will be......
1. OSU
2. Bama
3. Tennessee
4. Georgia
That would give us,
OSU vs Georgia
Bama vs Tenn
Then.....Bama beats OSU again.....
@Bullsitter, I'm not saying it will happen but the scenario for the ultimate SEC nightmare is as follows:
--- LSU beats Alabama and eliminates them from any playoff consideration.
--- Tennessee beats Georgia.
--- LSU beats Tennessee in the SEC championship.
If this were to happen it would be possible, though not probable, that the SEC could be shut out of the playoff. Can you imagine the "committee" forming games out of the Ohio State/Michigan winner, Clemson, TCU and Oregon?? If NCAA footbal is anything like the NFL this season I will say it could happen.
@Bullsitter said:
Can Northwestern claim their 2nd win of the year against OSU?
Saturday is when the weather is going to start to shift in Evanston. The temperature is starting to fall as a front moves through. It will be about 60 degrees at kickoff though. The problem is going to be the wind and the rain. It very well could be a mess.
Right now, the wind is supposed to be very strong for the noon kickoff, with sustained winds at 25 mph. Gusts could be even more. That will make throwing the ball challenging enough. But it also looks like it’s going to rain too, making it even tougher.
There is about a 25% chance of rain when the game starts. The rain is going to taper off from the morning, so the chances decrease as the game goes on. That’s good news for the Buckeyes. Bad weather is how a team like Northwestern can upset them.
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Over the past few years Ohio State has shown the ability to fail to show up. Purdue, Iowa. They were flat against the team up North last year. Inexcusable. They better get their running game in order today. If they don't handle the team from the North this year I will head a committee to find a coach who can.
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They won't lose another game....
I was sitting here thinking, isn't it about the time of year that OSU blows a game against an unranked team?
Wasn't it Iowa and Purdue, the last few years?
I have Michigan beating OSU, making it 2 years in a row.
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OSU hasn't played a Top 25 team yet. Don't say Notre Dame, they're not even in the Top 40.
Bragging on Stroud beating Rutgers and a terrible MSU team, c'mon man.
Whats Bama's best win a one pointer against Texas? Not much better.
Bama could win out but they have two tough road games in Nov. One against a undefeated, so not so sure they will win their division.
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Thank you, got another Oct 22 (this week) against #24 Miss State.....SEC is loaded this year.....
@Bullsitter said: I was sitting here thinking, isn't it about the time of year that OSU blows a game against an unranked team? Wasn't it Iowa and Purdue, the last few years?.
I had to look all this up, but it was Oregon and Michigan in 2021 and Purdue in 2018. That loss to the Boilermakers was when Urban Meyer was HC. Currently it's Ryan Day as the HC. I can't tell if he has a better team(s) or is just a better coach, but he seems to be recruiting on par with past OSU programs and other teams Nationally. As with every conference, the biggest challenge and main objective is the rivalry with Michigan. I think Day underestimated them last season and they appear quite stout again this year.
The thing with Michigan's current iteration is that it all comes down to Blake Corum, a great running back. Donovan Edwards last week was an aberration, he had a fabulous game against a Penn State team that really got exposed as pretty bad. Without Corum, Michigan doesn't have a lot on offense, but he is a TON!!!
Nov. 5, 2017.
IOWA 55
OSU 24
@Bullsitter said: They(Alabama) won't lose another game.
I had to look at their schedule....................it seems Alabama has three good games coming up: away against a not too bad LSU and at home against Auburn. The latter is always a game I watch and it doesn't seem to matter what anyone's record is, it's always a good game with some maniacal fans no matter where it's played.
The "test" will be against Mississippi. I have no clue about them because I haven't seen them play this season.
I decided to post again even if I am not part of the club here. Several encouraged me to continue posting here even if no one wants to debate my points, so be it.
Team Talent (247 Sports), Team Name, Conference, Sagarin Ranking
Alabama SEC 3
Georgia SEC 2
Ohio State Big 10 1
4 Texas A&M SEC 18
5 Clemson ACC 8
6 Texas Big 12 6
7 Oregon Pac 12 10
8 LSU SEC 15
9 Oklahoma Big 12 22
10 Notre Dame Indy 25
Sagarin rankings Oct. 21:
1 Ohio State BIG TEN-EAST (1)
2 Georgia SEC-EAST (1)
3 Alabama SEC-WEST (2)
4 Michigan BIG TEN-EAST (2)
5 Tennessee SEC-EAST (3)
6 Texas BIG 12 (1)
7 Southern California PAC-12 SOUTH (1)
8 Clemson ACC-ATLANTIC (1)
9 Utah PAC-12 SOUTH (2)
10 Oregon PAC-12 NORTH (3)
11 Oklahoma State BIG 12 (2)
12 Mississippi SEC-WEST (4)
13 TCU BIG 12 (3)
14 Mississippi State SEC-WEST (5)
15 LSU SEC-WEST (6)
16 Kansas State BIG 12 (4)
17 Central Florida AAC (1)
18 Texas A&M SEC-WEST (7)
19 UCLA PAC-12 SOUTH (4)
20 Penn State BIG TEN-EAST (3)
21 Wake Forest ACC-ATLANTIC (2)
22 Oklahoma BIG 12 (5)
23 Iowa State BIG 12 (6)
24 Illinois BIG TEN-WEST (4)
25 Notre Dame (1)
Sagarin Top 25
SEC - 7
Big 12 - 6
Pac 12 - 4
Big 10 - 4
ACC - 2
AAC - 1
Indy - 1
Looks like the top 3 teams have the most talent. Some of these teams are playing lower than their talent, others are clearly playing above. It also shows why better Big 12 and Pac 12 teams have been victims of corporate raiding (think Money by Pink Floyd) - if USC, UCLAW, AM, UT, and OU stayed put, would the Pac-12 and B-12 be better than the B-10? Probably or at least equals.
We have a 1/2 season to go b4 we see if the numbers for talent equal to the numbers for ranking. I should mention that UCLAW is 19 for Sagarin and 27 for team talent. I think this shows how coaching and execution is important as well as team talent (and schedule).
The Ducks-Bruins is a key game tomorrow, if whomever wins that game wins out for the season, a likely playoff member. We will see, this is why they play. I'd like to see 4 teams from 4 different conferences representing in the playoffs. It is sad, pathetic, and politics that SEC always has >1 team represented. Don't care if your conf is potentially better than the others, you can't win your conf why would you be in the 4 team playoffs?
I thought the committee was supposed to pick the 4 best teams regardless of conference championships.
Michigan and Cinncy had a chance to beat Georgia and Bama last year to prove the SEC shouldn't have been there.
They both got clocked and the two SEC teams played for it all.
BTW...Georgia didn't win the SEC conference championship but ended up National Champs.
And that's because the committee picked the 4 best teams, not politics.
As far as the Sagarin poll, any poll that has Oklahoma, Notre Dame and A&M in the top 25 isn't legit.
@Bullsitter said: BTW...Georgia didn't win the SEC conference championship but ended up National Champs.
And that's because the committee picked the 4 best teams, not politics.
The current iteration and all past National polls are absolutely "politics" which is why they are the wrong approach. JMHO, but no team, no matter how good, should play for the Championship if they can't even win their conference, yet the committee has allowed that to happen on at least two occasions(I think).
But...................let's not dwell on the past, who's everyone watching today?? First up is FOX Saturday with Gus Johnson, yahoo. He really calls a good game
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Once was 2016 when PSU won the conference championship and beat OSU 24-21.
Then the committee snubbed PSU, politics of course, and let OSU in to play Clemson.
Clemson 31-0
Sure helps when you have a second crack at the same team dont you think? HARD to beat the same team twice in one year. As fans, we didnt want to see the same game twice. Hurts the sport. Georgia didn't deserve a playoff spot after getting whacked in their conference game. The current system is a joke.
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Penn State had two losses.
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All these polls really mean nothing unless and until there is interconference play that measures conferences from the top to the bottom.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
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But they won the conference championship, and YOU ALWAYS say the conference champs should go.
They either do or they don't, which is it?
Huh?
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Best four teams regardless of what conference they are in. At the end of the year one of the best teams may have had two losses earlier in the year but have really turned it on. However, two losses seem to be an automatic disqualifier.
BTW I was at the OSU Clemson Fiesta Bowl. Game was closer than the score would indicate. Buckeyes were in it right up to the opening kickoff.
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Ohio State
Georgia
Michigan
Tennessee
Clemson
TCU
Oklahoma State
Oregon
Syracuse
Alabama
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Jimbo and his players.......
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Players got caught smoking pot before the game.
@Bullsitter, did that really happen??
Yep, smoked it before the game in the visiting locker room....and they lost. Goggle it for more info.
Texas A&M cornerback Denver Harris, wide receiver Chris Marshall and offensive lineman PJ Williams have been suspended indefinitely as a result of a locker room incident at South Carolina, a source confirmed to The Athletic on Tuesday.
Aggies coach Jimbo Fisher declined to comment Wednesday when asked about the suspensions on the SEC coaches teleconference.
“We’re not speaking on that right now,” Fisher said. “We keep everything we do in house.”
That's ballsy, smokin' dope in the locker room before a game. It's also pretty stupid!!
Another College Football Saturday!!!! Things are limited for me today, I'll get to watch OSU vs. PSU at noon but then we're headed to a wedding so no more football for me.
PSU vs OSU
Georgia vs Gators
Ole Piss vs A&M
Will happy valley turn into crappie valley ?
I said it would be the toughest test for tOSU.
It will only remain tough if Ryan Day insists on playing to the strengths of Penn State. His play calling on offense through the first half has been laughable and the tackling on defense hasn't been any better. Watching the OSU running game makes me wonder why the plays seem to be taking so long to develop.
Great 4th quarter for the Buckeyes. Great road win for the Irish.
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In the end, it was Penn State winning 55 minutes of play and Ohio State absolutely shellacking them for five minutes, a really strange game. The stat line for JT Tuimoloau is ridiculous:
--- three tackles/three assists with two sacks.
--- one blocked pass that resulted in an interception.
--- two interceptions, one returned for a TD.
--- one of his sacks resulted in a strip/fumble that he recovered.
If the 12-team playoff was today my picks:
CFP Committee, Tuesday picks prediction,
1. Tenn
2. Georgia
3. OSU
4. Michigan
5. TCU (first out)
CFP should resemble the other Polls closely unless the voters are drunk.
Next Saturday should go a long way towards settling the SEC and, hence, the Playoff picture. The rest will have to wait till Ohio State vs. Michigan. Other than those three games the rest of the season might be predictable and tame.
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Tennessee has played the toughest schedule of the top 4 and won them all.
Will the committee give them credit. I think their win over Alabama propels them to the top spot this week.
@Bullsitter, that may be true but I think this "committee" is most interested in lining up the four top spots to have the games they want. That means they keep Georgia at number one, Tennessee at number three and Alabama at number five, Next weekend sorts those three out which will most likely leave Ohio State and Michigan at two/three and two of those SEC teams at one and four. The unplanned outcome will be if Alabama loses to LSU which will really piss off the voters.
Kentucky still ranked
What a joke.
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I don't see Kentucky ranked in any of the major polls, AP or Coaches, and their play on Saturday should show that they aren't as strong as previously thought.
Key games Saturday
Alabama vs LSU
Clemson vs Notre Dame
Tennessee vs Georgia
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Go Notre Dame, I think they have a good shot.
Go Georgia, beat the stink out of 10RC
If LSU, Notre Dame and Tennessee all win this weekend I think there will be people jumping from tall building and a committee voting while they're all wearing diapers.
Tennessee has no chance against Georgia. ND does perhaps.
LSU is not strong enough.
With the loss of Georgia's top defensive player, Nolan Smith, the chances of Tennessee winning just got better.
Anything can happen... that is why we watch
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Georgia beats Tenn, wins out and goes to the SEC Championship game, 12-0.
Bama beats LSU , wins out and goes to the SEC Championship game, 11-1 (lost to Tenn).
Tenn wins out and finishes 11-1 (lost to Georgia)
Alabama beats Georgia in the SEC Championship game.
Each team has 1 loss.
I'm thinking the CFP rankings at the end of the regular season will be......
1. OSU
2. Bama
3. Tennessee
4. Georgia
That would give us,
OSU vs Georgia
Bama vs Tenn
Then.....Bama beats OSU again.....
@Bullsitter, I'm not saying it will happen but the scenario for the ultimate SEC nightmare is as follows:
--- LSU beats Alabama and eliminates them from any playoff consideration.
--- Tennessee beats Georgia.
--- LSU beats Tennessee in the SEC championship.
If this were to happen it would be possible, though not probable, that the SEC could be shut out of the playoff. Can you imagine the "committee" forming games out of the Ohio State/Michigan winner, Clemson, TCU and Oregon?? If NCAA footbal is anything like the NFL this season I will say it could happen.
I don't think it will but it could.
Can Northwestern claim their 2nd win of the year against OSU?
Saturday is when the weather is going to start to shift in Evanston. The temperature is starting to fall as a front moves through. It will be about 60 degrees at kickoff though. The problem is going to be the wind and the rain. It very well could be a mess.
Right now, the wind is supposed to be very strong for the noon kickoff, with sustained winds at 25 mph. Gusts could be even more. That will make throwing the ball challenging enough. But it also looks like it’s going to rain too, making it even tougher.
There is about a 25% chance of rain when the game starts. The rain is going to taper off from the morning, so the chances decrease as the game goes on. That’s good news for the Buckeyes. Bad weather is how a team like Northwestern can upset them.
Georgia is beginning to feel like 1995-97 Nebraska.
They’ll bend, but won’t break.
Over the past few years Ohio State has shown the ability to fail to show up. Purdue, Iowa. They were flat against the team up North last year. Inexcusable. They better get their running game in order today. If they don't handle the team from the North this year I will head a committee to find a coach who can.
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