My collection has 9 of the 300 President John F. Kennedy Appreciation Medals.
The most interesting of the 9 is the "Dublin specimen". In the image, it's the Presidential case and the medal below it. Provenance is unbroken (full chain-of-ownership is active, that is when I sell it the new owner is added to the chain as the new owner). President Kennedy gifted the medal to a Department of State employee at the US Embassy in Dublin, Ireland during JFK 19963 visit to Ireland.
A few other medals in the remaining 8 also have unbroken chain-of-ownership.
ANA used my public domain image in their October 2024 issue of The Numismatist.
The "Dublin" specimen's provenance & pedigree was initially shared at the 2022 NMS during my Money Talks session on "POTUS Numismatic Artifacts". Last name redacted for the privacy of the Jack's widow (Nancy).
My mom stood in a line outside the bank the day they got these in. I still have most of the coins from that roll. Others I snuck out mid ‘60s to buy comic books and slim Jim’s.
@OAKSTAR said:
Since this is a Kennedy Half thread and Kennedy Half collectors eyes will see this, can I get a reality check and opinions on this please?
It is tough to tell if this is a ddo from your pictures.
The die markers are all hidden by the bright reflection shines.
There are only 2 coins listed by Wexler's, those being the wdd-001 and the wddo-002
From what I can see in the area of the word trust, IMO, it is die deterioration.
I will gladly wait to see what other's have to say.
Hopefully they can provide some more infomation on what we are seeing.
Wayne
@OAKSTAR said:
Since this is a Kennedy Half thread and Kennedy Half collectors eyes will see this, can I get a reality check and opinions on this please?
It is tough to tell if this is a ddo from your pictures.
The die markers are all hidden by the bright reflection shines.
There are only 2 coins listed by Wexler's, those being the wdd-001 and the wddo-002
From what I can see in the area of the word trust, IMO, it is die deterioration.
I will gladly wait to see what other's have to say.
Hopefully they can provide some more infomation on what we are seeing.
Wayne
You're saying these are die deterioration? These notches look stronger then what's on the variety vista website.
Also unless I'm missing it, I don't see any 72-D DDO's listed in any of the TPG"ers pop reports. Maybe it's just not significant enough.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
The "golden age" for political numismatic art was during the 19th century. During the 20th century, not so much. This token from the 1960 presidential campaign is an example.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
@OAKSTAR said:
Since this is a Kennedy Half thread and Kennedy Half collectors eyes will see this, can I get a reality check and opinions on this please?
It is tough to tell if this is a ddo from your pictures.
The die markers are all hidden by the bright reflection shines.
There are only 2 coins listed by Wexler's, those being the wdd-001 and the wddo-002
From what I can see in the area of the word trust, IMO, it is die deterioration.
I will gladly wait to see what other's have to say.
Hopefully they can provide some more infomation on what we are seeing.
Wayne
You're saying these are die deterioration? These notches look stronger then what's on the variety vista website.
Also unless I'm missing it, I don't see any 72-D DDO's listed in any of the TPG"ers pop reports. Maybe it's just not significant enough.
Some DDO and/or DDR coins are not discovered until years later. I suspect that is not the answer to Why? that you are looking for but that is just sort of how the discovery process works.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
@coinkat said:
Some DDO and/or DDR coins are not discovered until years later. I suspect that is not the answer to Why? that you are looking for but that is just sort of how the discovery process works.
So how do I get it attributed?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
That is a good question and I don’t have a good answer. My experience with this sort of thing has produced mixed results. I suspect others here will provide guidance that will likely be more helpful than mine. Just one suggestion… you might look to see if Anacs has accepted and graded one. Back in the old days… as in 25-30 years ago, Anacs did grade varieties and it is possible they have graded one.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
@OAKSTAR said:
Since this is a Kennedy Half thread and Kennedy Half collectors eyes will see this, can I get a reality check and opinions on this please?
@coinkat said:
That is a good question and I don’t have a good answer. My experience with this sort of thing has produced mixed results. I suspect others here will provide guidance that will likely be more helpful than mine. Just one suggestion… you might look to see if Anacs has accepted and graded one. Back in the old days… as in 25-30 years ago, Anacs did grade varieties and it is possible they have graded one.
I looked at all 3 TPG'ers. Like I said; unless I'm missing it, I don't see any 72-D DDO's graded in their pop reports... Including ANACS. My experience is that it's pretty much a pain in the ass! Unless the TPG'ers see it published somewhere reputable, they will not put their reputation on the line, go out on a limb or touch it!
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
@OAKSTAR said:
Since this is a Kennedy Half thread and Kennedy Half collectors eyes will see this, can I get a reality check and opinions on this please?
I really liked this one for awhile, but got tired of it because the ugly part overwhelms the attractive part. I am selling it and closes on GC in a couple days.
@Deathstar_69 said:
1976 Bicentennial Kennedy Half Dollar
Nice coin @Deathstar_69 ....MY Coin ⇈...
I bought it last spring fyi...!
Here's how it looked before I had it restored & reholdered(below @GC).⇓
New holder/new cert below...I like that "our" coin comes up as the highlighted TV coin when looking it up! ...
Some of the spotiness remains, looks fantastic in hand!
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Kennedys are my quest...
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My collection has 9 of the 300 President John F. Kennedy Appreciation Medals.
The most interesting of the 9 is the "Dublin specimen". In the image, it's the Presidential case and the medal below it. Provenance is unbroken (full chain-of-ownership is active, that is when I sell it the new owner is added to the chain as the new owner). President Kennedy gifted the medal to a Department of State employee at the US Embassy in Dublin, Ireland during JFK 19963 visit to Ireland.
A few other medals in the remaining 8 also have unbroken chain-of-ownership.
ANA used my public domain image in their October 2024 issue of The Numismatist.
Digitial copy of the issue.
https://the-numismatist.mydigitalpublication.com/publication/frame.php?i=830270&ver=html5&fbclid=IwY2xjawHOIjJleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHZKaebOMDiHixmyCyEQKKKHmMkhNTO5X8WFEt7HEwxsxpBBw_MltuOGcSw_aem_4XkotJgFlvXlz0jkhHAERg
The "Dublin" specimen's provenance & pedigree was initially shared at the 2022 NMS during my Money Talks session on "POTUS Numismatic Artifacts". Last name redacted for the privacy of the Jack's widow (Nancy).
I created this unique set of Kennedy half-dollar: First Day of Issues: FDOI from Philadelphia and FDOI from Denver.
Is the letter real? See my next entry.
My research on POTUS Numismatic Artifacts made some headway (thanks to the LBJ Presidential Library).
lbjlibrary.net/museum/permanent-collection/presidential-giveaways/
My conclusion.
Previously shared with ANA.
Amazing First Day of Issue!
What is the "Discovery Bag"?
You should have your pedigree added to the slab!
Here’s a zoomed in version of your slab.
My mom stood in a line outside the bank the day they got these in. I still have most of the coins from that roll. Others I snuck out mid ‘60s to buy comic books and slim Jim’s.
Since this is a Kennedy Half thread and Kennedy Half collectors eyes will see this, can I get a reality check and opinions on this please?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
My Keeper Kennedy...
@OAKSTAR
A possible stage B?
Now focus on the other markers as noted below, see what you come up with!?...
http://www.varietyvista.com/12 Kennedy Halves/DDO Detail Pages/1972DDDO001.htm
It is tough to tell if this is a ddo from your pictures.
The die markers are all hidden by the bright reflection shines.
There are only 2 coins listed by Wexler's, those being the wdd-001 and the wddo-002
From what I can see in the area of the word trust, IMO, it is die deterioration.
I will gladly wait to see what other's have to say.
Hopefully they can provide some more infomation on what we are seeing.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
You're saying these are die deterioration? These notches look stronger then what's on the variety vista website.
Also unless I'm missing it, I don't see any 72-D DDO's listed in any of the TPG"ers pop reports. Maybe it's just not significant enough.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
The "golden age" for political numismatic art was during the 19th century. During the 20th century, not so much. This token from the 1960 presidential campaign is an example.
I've been gathering rolls and rolls of these. Got to love them.
Silver Stacker,
Tim
Those are split serifs all day long.
Which means what?
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That it is in fact, a doubled die and not machine doubling.
Unless I'm missing it, I don't see a 72-D DDO listed anywhere except Vatiety Vista. The next question: Why?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Some DDO and/or DDR coins are not discovered until years later. I suspect that is not the answer to Why? that you are looking for but that is just sort of how the discovery process works.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
So how do I get it attributed?
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
That is a good question and I don’t have a good answer. My experience with this sort of thing has produced mixed results. I suspect others here will provide guidance that will likely be more helpful than mine. Just one suggestion… you might look to see if Anacs has accepted and graded one. Back in the old days… as in 25-30 years ago, Anacs did grade varieties and it is possible they have graded one.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Might be a WDDO-01... https://doubleddie.com/2358279.html
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I looked at all 3 TPG'ers. Like I said; unless I'm missing it, I don't see any 72-D DDO's graded in their pop reports... Including ANACS. My experience is that it's pretty much a pain in the ass! Unless the TPG'ers see it published somewhere reputable, they will not put their reputation on the line, go out on a limb or touch it!
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Yes, I did look at that. It might be, but I don't see notches on any other devices, only TR in trust.
Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )
Just for kicks, I pulled my ANACs published pop reports from 1995 and 1997- there was nothing listed.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Thank you for double checking.
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I thought it was worth the look just out of curiosity and completeness.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Nothing on NGC's or PCGS's either.
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As part of another 5-coin set:
A Barber Quartet is made up of Nickels, Dimes, Quarters, and Halves.
Here's a couple to look at. I don't have a clue to post my pretty ones.
Picked this up at a recent coin club auction.
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1976 Bicentennial Kennedy Half Dollar
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest....Abraham Lincoln
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.....Mark Twain
I really liked this one for awhile, but got tired of it because the ugly part overwhelms the attractive part. I am selling it and closes on GC in a couple days.
https://greatcollections.com/Coin/1715991/1965-Kennedy-Half-Dollar-PCGS-MS-65-Toned
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Nice coin @Deathstar_69 ....MY Coin ⇈...
I bought it last spring fyi...!
Here's how it looked before I had it restored & reholdered(below @GC).⇓
New holder/new cert below...I like that "our" coin comes up as the highlighted TV coin when looking it up! ...
Some of the spotiness remains, looks fantastic in hand!
Tools of the trade:
I still have mine fully loaded.
It has been retired now about 25 years but I still use the 1" mike and the 6" verniers. lol
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
I'm an Engineer by education and training but both my Dad and Grandfather were tool makers. I still have a couple of theirs.