i forgot you are the resident Meyer apologist. see if this had been like Wednesday i would have been able to put 2 & 2 together. when the weekend hits my mind is stuck in neutral until Monday and 2 + 2 equals approximately 7.5
and i totally concur, if i was an HC in the NFL i'd quickly be gone. but two things i'm certain of:
1) it wouldn't be because i coached not to lose, which i see virtually every week from qualified men who get paid millions of dollars
and
2) when i did get canned, i'd have at least as many wins as Urban Meyer does at this stage of his NFL coaching career
now that is WAYYY funnier, keets. come on, give it up! i'm 4.6k behind double d!
not even close, I'm just a realist like you who understands nobody can makeover a Team that's in shambles in the course of four games. I believe that a Coach needs one season to shake off the dust of the previous HC and reframe what exactly the Team is doing, his game approach so-to-speak. plus, he's saddled with the draft picks and players who don't meet his needs. the second year needs to show marked improvement, something tangible that the GM and Owner can see. year three should be the basis for another chance/longer tenure.
I watched this Merry-Go-Round situation with the Browns going all the way back to 1985-90 when Art Modell was so desperate for a Championship that he routinely sank the ship himself. in all that time the longest tenured HC was none other than Bill Belichick who lasted five seasons. strangely, Belichick and the franchise left at the same time!!! most of the guys from 2009-present lasted 1-2 years. what a train wreck.
think about it, since Bill Belichick was Head Coach of the Cleveland Browns, nobody has coached the Team longer than the three seasons the City of Cleveland was without a franchise.
keets my initial post wasn't an indictment of Meyer's decision-making prowess, or lack thereof. i'm actually quite indifferent where he's concerned. he's obviously a very accomplished coach at the collegiate level, and obviously no one knows what the future holds for him in the NFL because four games is a minuscule sample size. i was simply offering up my .02 on what i would've done in that situation. nothing less, nothing more. i just so happened to tune in toward the end of the first half and was taken aback when i saw Jacksonville in complete control of the game. i'll never criticize a coach for attempting to grind his spikes into the neck of an opponent, but in that instance -- after processing a number of different factors -- i personally would have chosen to kick the ball.
Sorry, I'm always holding everything up!
Washington
Buffalo
Chicago
Dallas
Miami
Cleveland
New Orleans
Tennessee
KC
LA Rams
Seattle
Baltimore
Green Bay
Tampa
LA Chargers
are you ready to rumble??? three games on tap today:
--- 1pm/Cleveland @ Minnesota.
--- 4:30pm/Pittsburgh @ Green Bay.
--- 8:20pm/Tampa Bay @ New England.
if anything, this weekend seems to have shown that:
--- some Teams aren't as good as we thought.
--- some Teams aren't as bad as we thought.
--- some Teams, sadly, are worse than we thought.
I expect all the talk to be about how Green Bay and Buffalo have bounced back from Week One, with Arizona being the new "best Team" that can win it all, and who can stop them. the Bears and Giants will see renewed support and the gnashing of teeth and wailing cries of agony about Pittsburgh will be loud. aside from Arizona(and supposing the Raiders to lose), my thinking is that there are three groups of Teams: those that have lost one game, those that have lost two games and all the others.
The Giants haven’t been half bad. Jones has learned to not turn the ball over and allow th other 21 players to help. Detroit had 4 possessions inside the 8 yards line and scored zero points. Ouch.
Buffalo and Green Bay righted their ships. If Buffalo defense continues to be an elite squad they are the AFC favorites. The Chiefs can score, of course, but their defense is bad. Denver got exposed as was predicted after beating the 3 worst teams.
Arizona? Well I hate to admit it but barring a second half collapse like last year they are a playoff team.
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
2dueces, after two last second losses I gave up on the Giants and they immediately win the same kind of game in OT. after the Bears looked hopeless with an inept HC they suddenly figure out how to score. as for Denver, they lose at home going away and also lose their QB!! ditto for the 49ers. the Rams, world beaters last week looked like an average Team yesterday......................AT HOME!!!
if I was Bookie I'd be on suicide watch right now.
Richard Dawson here with a public service announcement.
i've been trying to tell you cats for a couple of years now about Kyler Murray. he is Lamar Jackson when he tucks and runs, but only in Lamar Jackson's wettest of dreams can he throw like Kyler Murray can. i predicted his coming out party would happen in earnest this season, and here we are after week 4. the guy is a nightmarish dual-threat QB with a plethora of weapons at his disposal. you do not want to be on the other side of the football when Arizona's offense is on the field.
as for yesterday's game itself, i didn't see this coming. well, at least not initially. in my head i predicted something like LA 24, AZ 21. i was wrong. that game was completely lopsided. the only thing that prevented Murray from putting up gargantuan numbers against Aaron Donald's vaunted defense is the fact that the Cardinals ran the ball into the ground in the 2nd half. in fact, Arizona had a drive in the 4th quarter that started at their own 1-yard line. they ran the ball ELEVEN straight times to the Rams' 5, burned almost 9 minutes off the clock, and kicked a field goal to go up 24. statement drive, statement game.
i said i didn't see this coming initially. the opening line was LA -6. i monitored it all week, and i'm here to tell you that bettors unloaded the vault on the Cardinals. by kickoff, the line had dropped to -3 at my book. it's never an exact science, but when i observe something like that i throw my entire body onto the train. either someone is smarter than i am (that's a distinct possibility), or someone knows something that i do not. i don't spend a waking second trying to figure out which one it is, i just go with it. sure enough, it happened.
with that said, this is the NFL. any given week. so if you guys reverse course and pick Arizona next week only for them to lose at home against the Niners, i wash my hands of the situation.
@galaxy27 said:
Richard Dawson here with a public service announcement.
i've been trying to tell you cats for a couple of years now about Kyler Murray. he is Lamar Jackson when he tucks and runs, but only in Lamar Jackson's wettest of dreams can he throw like Kyler Murray can. i predicted his coming out party would happen in earnest this season, and here we are after week 4. the guy is a nightmarish dual-threat QB with a plethora of weapons at his disposal. you do not want to be on the other side of the football when Arizona's offense is on the field.
as for yesterday's game itself, i didn't see this coming. well, at least not initially. in my head i predicted something like LA 24, AZ 21. i was wrong. that game was completely lopsided. the only thing that prevented Murray from putting up gargantuan numbers against Aaron Donald's vaunted defense is the fact that the Cardinals ran the ball into the ground in the 2nd half. in fact, Arizona had a drive in the 4th quarter that started at their own 1-yard line. they ran the ball ELEVEN straight times to the Rams' 5, burned almost 9 minutes off the clock, and kicked a field goal to go up 24. statement drive, statement game.
i said i didn't see this coming initially. the opening line was LA -6. i monitored it all week, and i'm here to tell you that bettors unloaded the vault on the Cardinals. by kickoff, the line had dropped to -3 at my book. it's never an exact science, but when i observe something like that i throw my entire body onto the train. either someone is smarter than i am (that's a distinct possibility), or someone knows something that i do not. i don't spend a waking second trying to figure out which one it is, i just go with it. sure enough, it happened.
with that said, this is the NFL. any given week. so if you guys reverse course and pick Arizona next week only for them to lose at home against the Niners, i wash my hands of the situation.
I wouldn’t have touched that game at -6. Two hot teams anything could happen. Still early like I said but you have been on the Cardinals from the gitgo. Long season. Keep it up and they are true contenders
W.C.Fields "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
the difference between "then and now" is what happened in the off-season on both sides of the ball. the only thing with Arizona is the same with almost every Top Team: it all hinges on one player and if anything happens to Murray the season is over. he is very exciting to watch.
Seattle.
Atlanta.
Green Bay.
Minnesota.
Pittsburgh.
Tampa Bay.
Washington.
Carolina.
Tennessee.
New England.
Las Vegas.
Cleveland.
Dallas.
Arizona.
Buffalo.
Baltimore.
Seattle
Atlanta
Green Bay
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Washington
Carolina
Tennessee
New England
Las Vegas
Los Angeles
Dallas
Arizona
Buffalo
Baltimore
Seattle
Atlanta
Green Bay
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Carolina
Tennessee
New England
Las Vegas
LA Chargers
Dallas
Arizona
Kansas City
Baltimore
That Browns vs Chargers game was a tough pick for me!
Seattle
Atlanta
Green Bay
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Washington
Carolina
Tennessee
New England
Las Vegas
LA Chargers
Dallas
Arizona
Buffalo
Baltimore
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Yes - add salt + cayenne powder to a pestle and crush it up to meld - But make sure the people you serve it to can handle hot stuff. Or else you will turn them into the LA extra point kicker that can't see the uprights and miss!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
just in case you're unaware, the 1-3 Jets are playing the 1-3 Falcons across the pond this Sunday. i'm sure every Brit can hardly contain themselves. the game starts at 8:30 am CT. keep that in mind, otherwise you run the risk of being "white boxed" at 8:31
I saw something about this game the other day and they mentioned that two Teams with winning records have never played in a London game. that's weird, if the idea is to expand the NFL it might make sense to let potential fans see some of the better Teams.
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i forgot you are the resident Meyer apologist. see if this had been like Wednesday i would have been able to put 2 & 2 together. when the weekend hits my mind is stuck in neutral until Monday and 2 + 2 equals approximately 7.5
and i totally concur, if i was an HC in the NFL i'd quickly be gone. but two things i'm certain of:
1) it wouldn't be because i coached not to lose, which i see virtually every week from qualified men who get paid millions of dollars
and
2) when i did get canned, i'd have at least as many wins as Urban Meyer does at this stage of his NFL coaching career
now that is WAYYY funnier, keets. come on, give it up! i'm 4.6k behind double d!
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
i forgot you are the resident Meyer apologist
not even close, I'm just a realist like you who understands nobody can makeover a Team that's in shambles in the course of four games. I believe that a Coach needs one season to shake off the dust of the previous HC and reframe what exactly the Team is doing, his game approach so-to-speak. plus, he's saddled with the draft picks and players who don't meet his needs. the second year needs to show marked improvement, something tangible that the GM and Owner can see. year three should be the basis for another chance/longer tenure.
I watched this Merry-Go-Round situation with the Browns going all the way back to 1985-90 when Art Modell was so desperate for a Championship that he routinely sank the ship himself. in all that time the longest tenured HC was none other than Bill Belichick who lasted five seasons. strangely, Belichick and the franchise left at the same time!!!
most of the guys from 2009-present lasted 1-2 years. what a train wreck.
think about it, since Bill Belichick was Head Coach of the Cleveland Browns, nobody has coached the Team longer than the three seasons the City of Cleveland was without a franchise.
Atlanta
Buffalo
Detroit
Dallas
Miami
Cleveland
New Orleans
Tennessee
Kansas City
LA Rams
Seattle
Baltimore
Green Bay
Tampa Bay
keets my initial post wasn't an indictment of Meyer's decision-making prowess, or lack thereof. i'm actually quite indifferent where he's concerned. he's obviously a very accomplished coach at the collegiate level, and obviously no one knows what the future holds for him in the NFL because four games is a minuscule sample size. i was simply offering up my .02 on what i would've done in that situation. nothing less, nothing more. i just so happened to tune in toward the end of the first half and was taken aback when i saw Jacksonville in complete control of the game. i'll never criticize a coach for attempting to grind his spikes into the neck of an opponent, but in that instance -- after processing a number of different factors -- i personally would have chosen to kick the ball.
awaiting canes' picks and then they'll be up
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Sorry, I'm always holding everything up!
Washington
Buffalo
Chicago
Dallas
Miami
Cleveland
New Orleans
Tennessee
KC
LA Rams
Seattle
Baltimore
Green Bay
Tampa
LA Chargers
Seattle.
are you ready to rumble???
three games on tap today:
--- 1pm/Cleveland @ Minnesota.
--- 4:30pm/Pittsburgh @ Green Bay.
--- 8:20pm/Tampa Bay @ New England.
what a glorious day for Football!!
picks are up -- good luck and enjoy the games!
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
wow, tough day today with some surprises that probably shouldn't have been surprises and some home losers.
Yeah. I picked the wrong upsets and didn’t stay with the safe bets. King one week, goat the next.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
The last minute and overtime losses once again - I'm hoping to end up with a 10-6 guessing record this week
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
10-6 so far. Climbing out of the basement. No more picking the fins. They are playing for Tua's replacement
Nice job Canes! You and dragon leading the pack this week!
Clairvoyant? still tonight's game not over yet, and tomorrows..........
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Thank you! They way perkdog, and 2dueces were rolling I figured their phone numbers were 877-sure-bet or 877-pic2-win!
I meant 10-4 so far. I'm a history teacher, so everyone will have to forgive my math.
Las Vegas
if anything, this weekend seems to have shown that:
--- some Teams aren't as good as we thought.
--- some Teams aren't as bad as we thought.
--- some Teams, sadly, are worse than we thought.
I expect all the talk to be about how Green Bay and Buffalo have bounced back from Week One, with Arizona being the new "best Team" that can win it all, and who can stop them. the Bears and Giants will see renewed support and the gnashing of teeth and wailing cries of agony about Pittsburgh will be loud. aside from Arizona(and supposing the Raiders to lose), my thinking is that there are three groups of Teams: those that have lost one game, those that have lost two games and all the others.
there were some strange outcomes this week.
The Giants haven’t been half bad. Jones has learned to not turn the ball over and allow th other 21 players to help. Detroit had 4 possessions inside the 8 yards line and scored zero points. Ouch.
Buffalo and Green Bay righted their ships. If Buffalo defense continues to be an elite squad they are the AFC favorites. The Chiefs can score, of course, but their defense is bad. Denver got exposed as was predicted after beating the 3 worst teams.
Arizona? Well I hate to admit it but barring a second half collapse like last year they are a playoff team.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
I think, for at least this week, we will hear about the Cowboys as well.
A lot of surprises this week, the Rams looked pretty mediocre at home against the Cardinals, Kyler Murray had a fantastic game against them.
2dueces, after two last second losses I gave up on the Giants and they immediately win the same kind of game in OT.
after the Bears looked hopeless with an inept HC they suddenly figure out how to score. 
as for Denver, they lose at home going away and also lose their QB!! ditto for the 49ers. the Rams, world beaters last week looked like an average Team yesterday......................AT HOME!!!
if I was Bookie I'd be on suicide watch right now.
Richard Dawson here with a public service announcement.
i've been trying to tell you cats for a couple of years now about Kyler Murray. he is Lamar Jackson when he tucks and runs, but only in Lamar Jackson's wettest of dreams can he throw like Kyler Murray can. i predicted his coming out party would happen in earnest this season, and here we are after week 4. the guy is a nightmarish dual-threat QB with a plethora of weapons at his disposal. you do not want to be on the other side of the football when Arizona's offense is on the field.
as for yesterday's game itself, i didn't see this coming. well, at least not initially. in my head i predicted something like LA 24, AZ 21. i was wrong. that game was completely lopsided. the only thing that prevented Murray from putting up gargantuan numbers against Aaron Donald's vaunted defense is the fact that the Cardinals ran the ball into the ground in the 2nd half. in fact, Arizona had a drive in the 4th quarter that started at their own 1-yard line. they ran the ball ELEVEN straight times to the Rams' 5, burned almost 9 minutes off the clock, and kicked a field goal to go up 24. statement drive, statement game.
i said i didn't see this coming initially. the opening line was LA -6. i monitored it all week, and i'm here to tell you that bettors unloaded the vault on the Cardinals. by kickoff, the line had dropped to -3 at my book. it's never an exact science, but when i observe something like that i throw my entire body onto the train. either someone is smarter than i am (that's a distinct possibility), or someone knows something that i do not. i don't spend a waking second trying to figure out which one it is, i just go with it. sure enough, it happened.
with that said, this is the NFL. any given week. so if you guys reverse course and pick Arizona next week only for them to lose at home against the Niners, i wash my hands of the situation.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I wouldn’t have touched that game at -6. Two hot teams anything could happen. Still early like I said but you have been on the Cardinals from the gitgo. Long season. Keep it up and they are true contenders
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
with a plethora of weapons
the difference between "then and now" is what happened in the off-season on both sides of the ball. the only thing with Arizona is the same with almost every Top Team: it all hinges on one player and if anything happens to Murray the season is over. he is very exciting to watch.
standings after week 4 & week 5 schedule
perk retains the lead, but there are a lot of peeps in close pursuit
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
This competition is starting to become a bitter and nasty fight, just how I like it, and be warned, I fully intend on fighting dirty.
I got spanked this week 8-8 😓
Week 5
Rams
Falcons
Patriots
Vikings
Eagles
Redskins
Titans
TOMPA
Green Bay
Denver
Raiders
Chargers
Cowboys
AZ
Bills
Ravens
.................
I very quietly moved from last place into second to last.
Week five picks:
Seattle.
Atlanta.
Green Bay.
Minnesota.
Pittsburgh.
Tampa Bay.
Washington.
Carolina.
Tennessee.
New England.
Las Vegas.
Cleveland.
Dallas.
Arizona.
Buffalo.
Baltimore.
my contests are no holds barred, but just remember to protect yourself at all times
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
Don't worry, as long as I have an endless supply of Pepsi, I've got incredible endurance.
Week 5 picks.
Seattle
Atlanta
Green Bay
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Washington
Carolina
Tennessee
New England
Las Vegas
Los Angeles
Dallas
Arizona
Buffalo
Baltimore
Rules? What rules?
1,2,3 Go.
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Week 5
Seattle
Atlanta
Green Bay
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Carolina
Tennessee
New England
Las Vegas
LA Chargers
Dallas
Arizona
Kansas City
Baltimore
That Browns vs Chargers game was a tough pick for me!
Rams- Jets- Pats- Minn- Phily- N. Orl- Tenn- Tampa- G Bay- Pitt- Raiders- Diego- Giants- Cards- Buff- Balt. .
Rams
Jets
Packers
Minnesota
Steelers
Tampa
Saints
Carolina
Jacksonville
Patriots
Raiders
Browns
Cowboys
Cardinals
Buffalo
Ravens
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Ralph
LA Rams
Seattle
Atlanta
Green Bay
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Tampa Bay
Washington
Carolina
Tennessee
New England
Las Vegas
LA Chargers
Dallas
Arizona
Buffalo
Baltimore
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Seattle
picks are in for tonight's game:
perkdog, zippcity, Brick, and thisistheshow selected the Rams
keets, double d, Landrys, Steven, Canes, 2dueces, and 1955Topps took the Seahawks
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
YIKES - With those Uni's there is no way Wilson can throw to the wrong guy tonight!!!!!!!!!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
After seeing those uniforms I have a craving for Kiwis or lime pie.
"I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
Those uniforms look like the Margarita I just drank. Don't judge me, I 'm giving a test tomorrow!
Group question Salt or no salt?
SALT? Oh, I like to spice things up and dust the rim with cayenne powder!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Never done a cayenne pepper rim for a margarita, but I'm down to try it.
Yes - add salt + cayenne powder to a pestle and crush it up to meld - But make sure the people you serve it to can handle hot stuff. Or else you will turn them into the LA extra point kicker that can't see the uprights and miss!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Pat Sajak here with a public service announcement for the following contest participants:
@zippcity
@thisistheshow
@Canes8387899101
just in case you're unaware, the 1-3 Jets are playing the 1-3 Falcons across the pond this Sunday. i'm sure every Brit can hardly contain themselves. the game starts at 8:30 am CT. keep that in mind, otherwise you run the risk of being "white boxed" at 8:31
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
I saw something about this game the other day and they mentioned that two Teams with winning records have never played in a London game. that's weird, if the idea is to expand the NFL it might make sense to let potential fans see some of the better Teams.