@micotu said:
Of all the recent releases, is this the one that will most likely retain value? they don't do reverse proofs every year, correct? and the mintage limits on these seem low.
Of the recent releases, probably. But 125,000 is quite a few. Earlier ASEs with mintages in the neighborhood of 125,000 have a value of around $100. Given that you are paying $90 to get in the game...
You can buy it to flip. If you want to collect it, then you buy it to hold and don't worry about future value. If you are looking for future value, buy an S&P 500 stock fund. 95% of Mint products lose value two years after release. 99.5% of them underperform even a savings bond over time.
@HATTRICK said:
have faith and hang in there. A little bird tells me things are going on behind the curtain. Look for important news in the near future.
Tell us the rumor! You can be our little bird.
I don’t think there’s actually a little bird. I think it’s just speculation.
Actually I have promised not to take the spotlight away from them for the work that they have done. And as anybody who knows me or did a deal with me, I always keep my word. Stay tuned.
@HATTRICK said:
have faith and hang in there. A little bird tells me things are going on behind the curtain. Look for important news in the near future.
Tell us the rumor! You can be our little bird.
I don’t think there’s actually a little bird. I think it’s just speculation.
Actually I have promised not to take the spotlight away from them for the work that they have done. And as anybody who knows me or did a deal with me, I always keep my word. Stay tuned.
I can respect that, but sigh it's now another thing on the backlog list :-)
I am fully prepared to be disappointed - if I can even break away long enough to try.
My father and brother are going to try for me as well. They're not uses to ordering from the Mint nor dealing with the absurdities of the current process.
The entire experience of high demand releases is most unenjoyable.
@Mgarmy said:
Yo K I think the early am group will be reconstitued for the two coin set
Yup. Early morning roll call will resume again for these coins just like the ERP and V75.
If the effort and hassle for the V75 was worth it. Unless it happens to be convenient to try for these at a given time I'll not.
The ultimate post initial sale score likely of our lifetimes was the Sundsy after Thanksgiving for the V75 AGE. One only needed to be there and it was easy. I'll never forget that one.
@Mgarmy said:
Yo K I think the early am group will be reconstitued for the two coin set
Yup. Early morning roll call will resume again for these coins just like the ERP and V75.
If the effort and hassle for the V75 was worth it. Unless it happens to be convenient to try for these at a given time I'll not.
The ultimate post initial sale score likely of our lifetimes was the Sundsy after Thanksgiving for the V75 AGE. One only needed to be there and it was easy. I'll never forget that one.
That was a good day! Was able to get my second one that morning. Highly doubt these will be on the same level as the v75 but we shall see.
@Mgarmy said:
Yo K I think the early am group will be reconstitued for the two coin set
Yup. Early morning roll call will resume again for these coins just like the ERP and V75.
If the effort and hassle for the V75 was worth it. Unless it happens to be convenient to try for these at a given time I'll not.
The ultimate post initial sale score likely of our lifetimes was the Sundsy after Thanksgiving for the V75 AGE. One only needed to be there and it was easy. I'll never forget that one.
That was a good day! Was able to get my second one that morning. Highly doubt these will be on the same level as the v75 but we shall see.
Incredible. Best Mint score ever. Somehow I don't think that these will quite have the multi $1000 premium that those will always carry...
@Mgarmy said:
Yo K I think the early am group will be reconstitued for the two coin set
Yup. Early morning roll call will resume again for these coins just like the ERP and V75.
If the effort and hassle for the V75 was worth it. Unless it happens to be convenient to try for these at a given time I'll not.
The ultimate post initial sale score likely of our lifetimes was the Sundsy after Thanksgiving for the V75 AGE. One only needed to be there and it was easy. I'll never forget that one.
That was a good day! Was able to get my second one that morning. Highly doubt these will be on the same level as the v75 but we shall see.
Not to worry, they won't even be close to the V75.
@Mgarmy said:
Yo K I think the early am group will be reconstitued for the two coin set
Yup. Early morning roll call will resume again for these coins just like the ERP and V75.
If the effort and hassle for the V75 was worth it. Unless it happens to be convenient to try for these at a given time I'll not.
The ultimate post initial sale score likely of our lifetimes was the Sundsy after Thanksgiving for the V75 AGE. One only needed to be there and it was easy. I'll never forget that one.
That was a good day! Was able to get my second one that morning. Highly doubt these will be on the same level as the v75 but we shall see.
Incredible. Best Mint score ever. Somehow I don't think that these will quite have the multi $1000 premium that those will always carry...
11/29/20 was an incredible morning. One I’ll never forget. I doubt any coin will come up to the caliber of the AGE V75 for me.
I do expect the 2 coin set to be difficult. But the difference is obvious from the AGE V75. I’m sure there will be many morning refreshes ahead for those disappointed on launch day.
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@Jzyskowski1 said:
What about the ase V-75. As a comparison. The gold V-75 is the stuff dreams are made of.
The ASE V75 although difficult, it was no where near as frustrating (at least for me) as it’s cousin, the AGE V75.
I was able to get the ASE V75 on the day of release after the AGE was marked unavailable. Got up every morning after that chasing the AGE and the one day that my alarm malfunctioned and didn't go off was the day that everyone was able to get one. Still hurts.
@Mgarmy said:
The next most difficult was the 2019 S ERP
This one on the other hand I was able to get one in the morning. Pretty sure it was the last or second to last release before being marked sold out.
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@Jzyskowski1 said:
What about the ase V-75. As a comparison. The gold V-75 is the stuff dreams are made of.
The ASE V75 although difficult, it was no where near as frustrating (at least for me) as it’s cousin, the AGE V75.
I was able to get the ASE V75 on the day of release after the AGE was marked unavailable. Got up every morning after that chasing the AGE and the one day that my alarm malfunctioned and didn't go off was the day that everyone was able to get one. Still hurts.
@Mgarmy said:
The next most difficult was the 2019 S ERP
This one on the other hand I was able to get one in the morning. Pretty sure it was the last or second to last release before being marked sold out.
Man, I remember that so well. We were all rooting for you. That whole V75 AGE episode I will never forget.
@Jzyskowski1 said:
What about the ase V-75. As a comparison. The gold V-75 is the stuff dreams are made of.
The ASE V75 although difficult, it was no where near as frustrating (at least for me) as it’s cousin, the AGE V75.
I was able to get the ASE V75 on the day of release after the AGE was marked unavailable. Got up every morning after that chasing the AGE and the one day that my alarm malfunctioned and didn't go off was the day that everyone was able to get one. Still hurts.
@Mgarmy said:
The next most difficult was the 2019 S ERP
This one on the other hand I was able to get one in the morning. Pretty sure it was the last or second to last release before being marked sold out.
Man, I remember that so well. We were all rooting for you. That whole V75 AGE episode I will never forget.
I remember quite clearly, sleeping in just a bit that day, never expecting any action on a Sunday....but it's okay, I got the silver V75 and it graded a 70 so I'm happy!!!!
No worries Doc. Here is to all three of us getting lucky with the two coin fiasco in a couple weeks
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@Golden1 said:
With so many silver eagle collectors, this one could be one of the hardest to get in some time.
Pretty sure this will be the last Type 1 forever.
Last year, the ASE V75 was difficult to get. The year before that the 2019-S ERP was difficult to get. The mint seems to put out at least one “hard to get” coin/set a year. The 2 coin ASE RP set looks to be the hard to get one for the year. However, with a mintage of 125k and a HHL of 1, it’s not impossible.
If I were to gauge the frustration level on trying to get this set on a scale where the 2020 AGE proof V75 is a 10 (nearly impossible, highly frustrating) and the annual proof set is a 1 (not at all frustrating, can acquire anytime after launch) -this set will be in the 8 - 9 range. IMO nothing will compare to the AGE proof V75 from last year. Don’t get me wrong, the site crashes, the captchas, etc. will certainly amp up blood pressures on launch day. So I’m sure for some, they will feel this set is a 10!
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@Golden1 said:
With so many silver eagle collectors, this one could be one of the hardest to get in some time. Pretty sure this will be the last Type 1 forever.
Have the 'last production run' coins and the "D&D" sets been 'released/auctioned' yet? Reference
@Golden1 said:
With so many silver eagle collectors, this one could be one of the hardest to get in some time. Pretty sure this will be the last Type 1 forever.
Have the 'last production run' coins and the "D&D" sets been 'released/auctioned' yet? Reference
Nothing seems to indicate so far that these 500 sets for auction have any specific design markings on the coins that will be different than the ones already sold, but there will be a "rare" signed certificate
@Goldminers said:
Nothing seems to indicate so far that these 500 sets for auction have any specific design markings on the coins that will be different than the ones already sold, but there will be a "rare" signed certificate
Buy the coin, not the packaging.
I agree.
Merely pointing out that the reverse proof coin in 21XJ is technically not the last T1 ASE release ever.
Regardless of my 'position/opinion', some people do buy the 'packaging/label'. And, while I am unlikely to participate, I plan to monitor the upcoming "D&D' auction, especially the resultant pricing. It should be interesting.
While we’re passing time here waiting for the battle to start . I went to the mint website and looked at the listing for the set. Am I the only one who thinks the pictures don’t look very good. Why can’t they do a better job. They just look plain and oh dang they look like hell. Just wondering? The RP ase’s I have are really excellent looking it seems like they deserve better 🤓🙀
Sorry for the newbie question, what's the reason behind popularity of AGE V75? extreme low mintage?
I got into the coin game after successfully grabbed a 2019 S ERP, and purchased almost every silver coin when buyer club(e.g. pfs) offer premium on . Still haven't opened box yet, and don't know what to do with it.
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@o0o said:
Sorry for the newbie question, what's the reason behind popularity of AGE V75? extreme low mintage?
I got into the coin game after successfully grabbed a 2019 S ERP, and purchased almost every silver coin when buyer club(e.g. pfs) offer premium on . Still haven't opened box yet, and don't know what to do with it.
Send it to MsMorrisine and get a $100 check back.
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I bought a set for a decent price, paid $80 over offering price. The GOP box had been removed from the shipping box. How do I go about sending them into PCGS?
Do I just send the complete box in for the coins to be graded and put in a dual coin holder? Thoughts, other comments?
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Of the recent releases, probably. But 125,000 is quite a few. Earlier ASEs with mintages in the neighborhood of 125,000 have a value of around $100. Given that you are paying $90 to get in the game...
You can buy it to flip. If you want to collect it, then you buy it to hold and don't worry about future value. If you are looking for future value, buy an S&P 500 stock fund. 95% of Mint products lose value two years after release. 99.5% of them underperform even a savings bond over time.
22 minutes Nah crashes and burns in the first minute and combat for the next hour 😈
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Yup. Early morning roll call will resume again for these coins just like the ERP and V75.
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When did they change the release date to Sept 13th? It's a damn circus at the mint.
Integrity. I like it.
Last night was when I first herd of it.
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You were well informed…
I can respect that, but sigh it's now another thing on the backlog list :-)
In the "Better Late Than Never" category - official announcement of the Reverse Proof's delayed release:
3 more long weeks.....
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so can't wait!
Is THAT what they call a sleek presentation box? Same piece of crap they are using for the Morgan and Peace dollars - just bigger.
Ordering is going to be such a nightmare.
I am fully prepared to be disappointed - if I can even break away long enough to try.
My father and brother are going to try for me as well. They're not uses to ordering from the Mint nor dealing with the absurdities of the current process.
The entire experience of high demand releases is most unenjoyable.
If the effort and hassle for the V75 was worth it. Unless it happens to be convenient to try for these at a given time I'll not.
The ultimate post initial sale score likely of our lifetimes was the Sundsy after Thanksgiving for the V75 AGE. One only needed to be there and it was easy. I'll never forget that one.
That was a good day! Was able to get my second one that morning. Highly doubt these will be on the same level as the v75 but we shall see.
Incredible. Best Mint score ever. Somehow I don't think that these will quite have the multi $1000 premium that those will always carry...
Not to worry, they won't even be close to the V75.
11/29/20 was an incredible morning. One I’ll never forget. I doubt any coin will come up to the caliber of the AGE V75 for me.
I do expect the 2 coin set to be difficult. But the difference is obvious from the AGE V75. I’m sure there will be many morning refreshes ahead for those disappointed on launch day.
What about the ase V-75. As a comparison. The gold V-75 is the stuff dreams are made of.
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
The next most difficult was the 2019 S ERP
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The ASE V75 although difficult, it was no where near as frustrating (at least for me) as it’s cousin, the AGE V75.
I was able to get the ASE V75 on the day of release after the AGE was marked unavailable. Got up every morning after that chasing the AGE and the one day that my alarm malfunctioned and didn't go off was the day that everyone was able to get one. Still hurts.
This one on the other hand I was able to get one in the morning. Pretty sure it was the last or second to last release before being marked sold out.
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I remember that day you got one…it was awesome
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Man, I remember that so well. We were all rooting for you. That whole V75 AGE episode I will never forget.
I remember quite clearly, sleeping in just a bit that day, never expecting any action on a Sunday....but it's okay, I got the silver V75 and it graded a 70 so I'm happy!!!!
Thank u!!! Your camaraderie was deeply appreciated.
No worries Doc. Here is to all three of us getting lucky with the two coin fiasco in a couple weeks
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I got my V75 AGE on an odd time morning when I think I was the only one to get one. I think it was like 6:38.
With so many silver eagle collectors, this one could be one of the hardest to get in some time.
Pretty sure this will be the last Type 1 forever.
Last year, the ASE V75 was difficult to get. The year before that the 2019-S ERP was difficult to get. The mint seems to put out at least one “hard to get” coin/set a year. The 2 coin ASE RP set looks to be the hard to get one for the year. However, with a mintage of 125k and a HHL of 1, it’s not impossible.
If I were to gauge the frustration level on trying to get this set on a scale where the 2020 AGE proof V75 is a 10 (nearly impossible, highly frustrating) and the annual proof set is a 1 (not at all frustrating, can acquire anytime after launch) -this set will be in the 8 - 9 range. IMO nothing will compare to the AGE proof V75 from last year. Don’t get me wrong, the site crashes, the captchas, etc. will certainly amp up blood pressures on launch day. So I’m sure for some, they will feel this set is a 10!
Have the 'last production run' coins and the "D&D" sets been 'released/auctioned' yet?
Reference
Nothing seems to indicate so far that these 500 sets for auction have any specific design markings on the coins that will be different than the ones already sold, but there will be a "rare" signed certificate
Buy the coin, not the packaging.
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Please keep posting, anything, until that Monday Monday video on top moves back to an old page.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
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Do you want me to tweak @coloneljessup? That should get the video buried about 4 pages back.
I agree.
Merely pointing out that the reverse proof coin in 21XJ is technically not the last T1 ASE release ever.
Regardless of my 'position/opinion', some people do buy the 'packaging/label'. And, while I am unlikely to participate, I plan to monitor the upcoming "D&D' auction, especially the resultant pricing. It should be interesting.
While we’re passing time here waiting for the battle to start . I went to the mint website and looked at the listing for the set. Am I the only one who thinks the pictures don’t look very good. Why can’t they do a better job. They just look plain and oh dang they look like hell. Just wondering? The RP ase’s I have are really excellent looking it seems like they deserve better 🤓🙀
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Been discussed to death
They are renderings
Yet I know at least one forum member who thinks they are photos.
Sorry your right.
🎶 shout shout, let it all out 🎶
Maybe they are photos of renderings
Mama Cass is still there twirling that mic backwards and forwards, so I have to post something. This one just might do it.
National Commemorative Medals of the U.S. Mint:
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/medals-tokens/national-commemorative-medals-united-states-mint-1940-present/alltimeset/195526
Sorry for the newbie question, what's the reason behind popularity of AGE V75? extreme low mintage?
I got into the coin game after successfully grabbed a 2019 S ERP, and purchased almost every silver coin when buyer club(e.g. pfs) offer premium on . Still haven't opened box yet, and don't know what to do with it.
Oh boy this is gonna be fun
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You have no idea what to do with a boxed coin?
Send it to MsMorrisine and get a $100 check back.
Yes, maybe i will pass on to my children
I also read somewhere else that value of coin 70 > unopened > 69, so I think i will keep them unopened.
Sold mine to a local B&M for $1,070 when they first came out. Prices were higher but promised him that price and honored it.
I bought a set for a decent price, paid $80 over offering price. The GOP box had been removed from the shipping box. How do I go about sending them into PCGS?
Do I just send the complete box in for the coins to be graded and put in a dual coin holder? Thoughts, other comments?
Or renderings of photos.