@Goldenage said:
I will add that the Mantle crowd will be dead when those 38-40 year olds come into money 15-30 years from now. I would sell all my Mantles for Jordan’s and Gretzky’s and Brady’s ASAP.
same could be said about wagner or ruth. but let's see their marquee cards hit the block now!
@Goldenage said:
I will add that the Mantle crowd will be dead when those 38-40 year olds come into money 15-30 years from now. I would sell all my Mantles for Jordan’s and Gretzky’s and Brady’s ASAP.
The Ruth, Cobb, Mathewson, Gehrig et al crowd is also dead and guys in their early to mid 40s like me are still buying those cards— sadly for us it ain’t for cheap, either
The hobby boom that happened between 1987-1992 now has guys who have inherited lots of money.
Just wait until all those 10-12 year olds in 1992 who are now 38-40 years old come into money 15-30 years from now. The battle for Jordan’s, Gretzky’s, Lemieuxs, and yes Cansecos and Griffey’s will be on.
Inherited monies? Maybe. The whole dynamics of cards has changed. I agree with your synopsis somewhat.
Mantle, Ruth, Dimaggio, and the like. Who alive has seen them play? Not many (referring to Ruth).
The most I've spent on a card ever is a '51 Mantle in '14 and I'm younger than 50. Legendary, Americana, GOAT.
Many many dynamics to a new market, which in my opinion is pretty neat.
I sold my two Jordan RC PSA 10 for $35k to 40k before this big pop and yes, I would be pretty down BUT I was lucky enough to throw all the money in Lebron RCs and boxes, so dollar for dollar, I am up.
Joe
IG: goatcollectibles23
The biggest lesson I've learned in this hobby, and in life, is that if you have a strong conviction, you owe it to yourself to see it through. Don't sell yourself, or your investments, short. Unless the facts change. Then sell it all.
Hi everyone. A 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan PSA 8 just ended with a high bid of $19,700.00 and, in my opinion, it wasn't the greatest looking PSA 8. I joined eBay and started buying graded cards in 1999 and I lowest I recall a 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan PSA 10 going was around $5,000.00.
@Jack131 said:
Hi everyone. A 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan PSA 8 just ended with a high bid of $19,700.00 and, in my opinion, it wasn't the greatest looking PSA 8. I joined eBay and started buying graded cards in 1999 and I lowest I recall a 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan PSA 10 going was around $5,000.00.
Hi Jack,
I'm a fan of buying the card & not the holder.
Investor/speculators don't really care; they're buying the grade.
Crazy runup since '99
@Goldenage said:
I will add that the Mantle crowd will be dead when those 38-40 year olds come into money 15-30 years from now. I would sell all my Mantles for Jordan’s and Gretzky’s and Brady’s ASAP.
I wouldn't say that by any means as today's new collectors see beauty in the older cards. I was at a show yesterday and have Lebron, Brady and Jeter rookies in my showcase among other things. There were two guys who looked to be in their late teens come up to my tablee and instead asked about the Gretzky rookie I have. Also, their was young kid who couldn't be more than 8 or 9 exclaim to his dad, "Look, Ty Cobb!" when he saw the Red Cobb in my showcase.
@Goldenage said:
I will add that the Mantle crowd will be dead when those 38-40 year olds come into money 15-30 years from now. I would sell all my Mantles for Jordan’s and Gretzky’s and Brady’s ASAP.
I wouldn't say that by any means as today's new collectors see beauty in the older cards. I was at a show yesterday and have Lebron, Brady and Jeter rookies in my showcase among other things. There were two guys who looked to be in their late teens come up to my tablee and instead asked about the Gretzky rookie I have. Also, their was young kid who couldn't be more than 8 or 9 exclaim to his dad, "Look, Ty Cobb!" when he saw the Red Cobb in my showcase.
That's great to hear! Timeless icons such as Cobb.
His contributions to baseball and many others are still recognized.
Ken Goldin says he sold two more PSA 10 1986 Jordan's today for $720K each. I guess there's gonna be 316 new millionaires added to the world very soon.
@Vagabond said:
Ken Goldin says he sold two more PSA 10 1986 Jordan's today for $720K each. I guess there's gonna be 316 new millionaires added to the world very soon.
@Goldenage said:
I will add that the Mantle crowd will be dead when those 38-40 year olds come into money 15-30 years from now. I would sell all my Mantles for Jordan’s and Gretzky’s and Brady’s ASAP.
Just turned 40 myself and I think my handle says what my opinion is lol.
Every generation will gravitate to all time greats.
Crap like this is absolutely ruining the hobby. What collector can ever dream of getting a Jordan '86 Fleer, or any other popular card now-a-days? They've become completely unaffordable to the rank-and-file collector, due to the greediness of Wall Street investors with too much money and shit for brains! A year ago, '86 Fleer Jordans were around $30K each. Last month, one sold for $215K, which was insane. Now in one month, Jordans have increased another 500%? There is no friggin' way these prices can be sustained! It will completely destroy the entire hobby!
About 17-18 years ago someone stole my raw 86 Fleer basketball set. The Jordan was probably an 8. I think I know who took it but could never prove it so I just let it go. Now I with I had done more to fine the set.
@SDSportsFan said:
Crap like this is absolutely ruining the hobby. What collector can ever dream of getting a Jordan '86 Fleer, or any other popular card now-a-days? They've become completely unaffordable to the rank-and-file collector, due to the greediness of Wall Street investors with too much money and shit for brains! A year ago, '86 Fleer Jordans were around $30K each. Last month, one sold for $215K, which was insane. Now in one month, Jordans have increased another 500%? There is no friggin' way these prices can be sustained! It will completely destroy the entire hobby!
Steve
i don't know if i agree in its entirety. true collectors collect. that's what we do. switch gears and zig while others zag. and if that's not enough, no where is it written that you MUST have a jordan 10 or nothing. no one is ever truly priced out of collecting. collecting the best of the best and/or trying to keep up w the jonses is an unnecessary pressure that one casts upon themself.
Just about everyone has been priced out of owning a 52 Mantle even in a PSA 1 but that doesn't mean there aren't other cards to collect. Mid grade Jordan's can still be had for decent prices but yeah, the ship on the 9's and even the 8's have sailed for many. I feel like if someone really wanted one, then they would have picked one up long time ago. I know I had plenty of chances to pick up 9's over the years. Same with Jeter SP. The PSA 9 was sitting under 3K for what, ...25 years? I mean c'mon now. lol
If anyone wanted a Jordan now or in the future the investors are making it where you better have some $$ saved up. Most knew this card would go up, but nobody expected in one year for it to go from $2k to $27k in a year.
Evidently this Michael Jordan promo card is now sweeping the country~chain linked basket for added street cred............. a PSA 10 just hit 35k. It's an '85.
@balco758 said:
87 MJ 10 just sold for 50k. New high.
the same card in PSA 8 just had two auctions end at $2100 & $2200...Crazy times.
@Copyboy1 said:
Even the tertiary Jordan cards are insane. 1987 Jordan sticker tripled in 3 weeks.
I’ve been keeping an eye on his PSA 8 1987 & 1988 Stickers and even those have taken a decent jump lately. The 87 PSA 8 sticker has hit $1500 while the 1988 sticker in PSA 8 has crossed over 1k a few times. It’s a great time to be holding early Jordan cards right now.
@ScoobyDoo2 said:
Evidently this Michael Jordan promo card is now sweeping the country............ a PSA 10 just hit 31k. It's an '85.
After seeing a Nike PSA 10 sell for 35K I mentioned this a few days back in a different thread, last January these same PSA 10’s were selling for $1000-1400,
@erikthredd ...At least it took a whole year......lol. I was not kidding when I asked if it could have been '21... seriously ... this card is in the "Pop Art" category and honestly I would not be surprised to see it continue to rise in the environment we are in .... "shoot first ask questions later".......100k coming for a PSA 10 ??
I’m wondering what the Jordan GJ13S at Heritage is going to end at. Personally I’d rather have that than a rookie. They rarely come up for sale. The 288k it’s at looks like a bargain now considering many hardcore Jordan guys see it as the holy grail. A PMG green would be interesting to see now too.
@SDSportsFan said:
Crap like this is absolutely ruining the hobby. What collector can ever dream of getting a Jordan '86 Fleer, or any other popular card now-a-days? They've become completely unaffordable to the rank-and-file collector, due to the greediness of Wall Street investors with too much money and shit for brains! A year ago, '86 Fleer Jordans were around $30K each. Last month, one sold for $215K, which was insane. Now in one month, Jordans have increased another 500%? There is no friggin' way these prices can be sustained! It will completely destroy the entire hobby!
Steve
i don't know if i agree in its entirety. true collectors collect. that's what we do. switch gears and zig while others zag. and if that's not enough, no where is it written that you MUST have a jordan 10 or nothing. no one is ever truly priced out of collecting. collecting the best of the best and/or trying to keep up w the jonses is an unnecessary pressure that one casts upon themself.
I understand what you're saying, but, if you want an '86 Fleer Jordan now, what do you do?
PSA 4 - Sold tonight on ebay for $7,350
PSA 3 - Sold tonight on ebay for $5,524
PSA 2 - Sold on Jan 23rd on ebay for $2,340
PSA 1 - Sold on Jan 10th on ebay for $2,136
So, if you want a Jordan, it's a minimum $2K card now, in the lowest condition.
That's not even considering all the other cards that investors have caused to go berserk price-wise. Again, this cannot be sustained, and the hobby, if it does continue, will be destroyed!
@Vagabond said:
Just about everyone has been priced out of owning a 52 Mantle even in a PSA 1 but that doesn't mean there aren't other cards to collect. Mid grade Jordan's can still be had for decent prices but yeah, the ship on the 9's and even the 8's have sailed for many. I feel like if someone really wanted one, then they would have picked one up long time ago. I know I had plenty of chances to pick up 9's over the years. Same with Jeter SP. The PSA 9 was sitting under 3K for what, ...25 years? I mean c'mon now. lol
See my post above this one.
PSA 1s are going for over $2K!!! That is utter insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@SDSportsFan said:
Crap like this is absolutely ruining the hobby. What collector can ever dream of getting a Jordan '86 Fleer, or any other popular card now-a-days? They've become completely unaffordable to the rank-and-file collector, due to the greediness of Wall Street investors with too much money and shit for brains! A year ago, '86 Fleer Jordans were around $30K each. Last month, one sold for $215K, which was insane. Now in one month, Jordans have increased another 500%? There is no friggin' way these prices can be sustained! It will completely destroy the entire hobby!
Steve
i don't know if i agree in its entirety. true collectors collect. that's what we do. switch gears and zig while others zag. and if that's not enough, no where is it written that you MUST have a jordan 10 or nothing. no one is ever truly priced out of collecting. collecting the best of the best and/or trying to keep up w the jonses is an unnecessary pressure that one casts upon themself.
I understand what you're saying, but, if you want an '86 Fleer Jordan now, what do you do?
PSA 4 - Sold tonight on ebay for $7,350
PSA 3 - Sold tonight on ebay for $5,524
PSA 2 - Sold on Jan 23rd on ebay for $2,340
PSA 1 - Sold on Jan 10th on ebay for $2,136
So, if you want a Jordan, it's a minimum $2K card now, in the lowest condition.
That's not even considering all the other cards that investors have caused to go berserk price-wise. Again, this cannot be sustained, and the hobby, if it does continue, will be destroyed!
Steve
No. It won't be destroyed. Please quit with the hyperbole.
@SDSportsFan said:
Crap like this is absolutely ruining the hobby. What collector can ever dream of getting a Jordan '86 Fleer, or any other popular card now-a-days? They've become completely unaffordable to the rank-and-file collector, due to the greediness of Wall Street investors with too much money and shit for brains! A year ago, '86 Fleer Jordans were around $30K each. Last month, one sold for $215K, which was insane. Now in one month, Jordans have increased another 500%? There is no friggin' way these prices can be sustained! It will completely destroy the entire hobby!
Steve
i don't know if i agree in its entirety. true collectors collect. that's what we do. switch gears and zig while others zag. and if that's not enough, no where is it written that you MUST have a jordan 10 or nothing. no one is ever truly priced out of collecting. collecting the best of the best and/or trying to keep up w the jonses is an unnecessary pressure that one casts upon themself.
I understand what you're saying, but, if you want an '86 Fleer Jordan now, what do you do?
PSA 4 - Sold tonight on ebay for $7,350
PSA 3 - Sold tonight on ebay for $5,524
PSA 2 - Sold on Jan 23rd on ebay for $2,340
PSA 1 - Sold on Jan 10th on ebay for $2,136
So, if you want a Jordan, it's a minimum $2K card now, in the lowest condition.
That's not even considering all the other cards that investors have caused to go berserk price-wise. Again, this cannot be sustained, and the hobby, if it does continue, will be destroyed!
Steve
i don't. i'm good. picked my 10 and this up years ago. i mean, cmon...it's michael jordan for christ's sake:
you seem to just want to kick rocks. but maybe there's a good hobby lesson to be learned here, steve. in that he who hesitates, masterbates. and i say that with love. it's the ones that get away that haunt us. best to learn from it than get salty and go all doomsday on us.
How many sports players have their image or silhouette associated with a major sports company such as Nike? Only Michael Jordan! He's a modern day icon, on par in popularity with legendary icons like Babe Ruth and the Mick!
I always notice how the ones who say that ‘prices can’t be sustained’ or that the ‘bottom will fall out’ are the ones who never own the cards. I’ve been hearing it non stop over the years but yet, prices always keep climbing no matter what. It’s a matter of simple economics. Supply and demand and the demand outweighs the supply. Once one comes to realization that their are new players in the game, people who have way more money out there than we do, it doesn’t become that hard to understand.
Prices will eventually get to a point wheres a lot of people will say enough is enough and things will certainly slow down but for now, it continues to be full steam ahead.
Yes, prices are high. The truly high end has been trending this way for years. Anyone who has been a collector for numerous years have had multiple opportunities to purchase a '86 Jordan. I'll go out on a limb and say: "nobody saw this coming". Mo money, nostalgia, supply and demand. Why do we "collect" in the first place? Is it about financial gain, childhood memories, loving a team or player, etc.? I've never purchased a '86 Jordan but pack ripped 4 out of 3 for a dollar packs from the Safeway store back in the day. Gave 2 away to friends--- yes, gave them away. Sold 1 and graded it for another friend (PSA 8). Kept and graded the best centered (PSA 7). Did I leave $$ on the table, bring happiness to 3 friends, create memories? Yes, yes and yes. Do I regret it? No, never look back...... these sort of memories and fun are why I collect.
I try to listen to good investment advice but you can’t get them all right. One guy spent the entire night in a bar telling me to ‘buy the dips’ and when I got home tipsy, I did just that...
Not my best investment but certainly the tastiest!!!
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I don't worry about the prices for the Jordan-level cards at all.
I worry about people paying thousands for Mahomes or Justin Herbert. Say Mahomes blows out a knee, misses a year, comes back but is never the same. He's not a HOFer at this point - just an exceptionally good QB for a short window. Would his card values hold up over the next 6, 7, 8 years? I highly doubt it.
@Copyboy1 said:
I don't worry about the prices for the Jordan-level cards at all.
I worry about people paying thousands for Mahomes or Justin Herbert. Say Mahomes blows out a knee, misses a year, comes back but is never the same. He's not a HOFer at this point - just an exceptionally good QB for a short window. Would his card values hold up over the next 6, 7, 8 years? I highly doubt it.
The speculation group have always worked alongside investors of HoF-level talent. History is littered with "sure fire" prospects who flamed out (Dwight Gooden comes to mind immediately). These players were collected as were players like Mantle.
However, using Mahomes (super bowl winner) with Herbert (who is nothing more than a prospect who has done nothing) undermines your point. Herbert is by far a more speculation buy than Mahomes.
@Copyboy1 said:
I don't worry about the prices for the Jordan-level cards at all.
I worry about people paying thousands for Mahomes or Justin Herbert. Say Mahomes blows out a knee, misses a year, comes back but is never the same. He's not a HOFer at this point - just an exceptionally good QB for a short window. Would his card values hold up over the next 6, 7, 8 years? I highly doubt it.
The speculation group have always worked alongside investors of HoF-level talent. History is littered with "sure fire" prospects who flamed out (Dwight Gooden comes to mind immediately). These players were collected as were players like Mantle.
However, using Mahomes (super bowl winner) with Herbert (who is nothing more than a prospect who has done nothing) undermines your point. Herbert is by far a more speculation buy than Mahomes.
I mean, sure, Mahomes has done more than Herbert, so the latter is far more speculation. But people are currently paying big bucks for both and Mahomes has only been starting for 3 years.
In response to a different post, no. A QB who has only played 3 years shouldn't make the HOF.
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same could be said about wagner or ruth. but let's see their marquee cards hit the block now!
The Ruth, Cobb, Mathewson, Gehrig et al crowd is also dead and guys in their early to mid 40s like me are still buying those cards— sadly for us it ain’t for cheap, either
Inherited monies? Maybe. The whole dynamics of cards has changed. I agree with your synopsis somewhat.
Mantle, Ruth, Dimaggio, and the like. Who alive has seen them play? Not many (referring to Ruth).
The most I've spent on a card ever is a '51 Mantle in '14 and I'm younger than 50. Legendary, Americana, GOAT.
Many many dynamics to a new market, which in my opinion is pretty neat.
I sold my two Jordan RC PSA 10 for $35k to 40k before this big pop and yes, I would be pretty down BUT I was lucky enough to throw all the money in Lebron RCs and boxes, so dollar for dollar, I am up.
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The biggest lesson I've learned in this hobby, and in life, is that if you have a strong conviction, you owe it to yourself to see it through. Don't sell yourself, or your investments, short. Unless the facts change. Then sell it all.
Hi everyone. A 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan PSA 8 just ended with a high bid of $19,700.00 and, in my opinion, it wasn't the greatest looking PSA 8. I joined eBay and started buying graded cards in 1999 and I lowest I recall a 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan PSA 10 going was around $5,000.00.
Hi Jack,
I'm a fan of buying the card & not the holder.
Investor/speculators don't really care; they're buying the grade.
Crazy runup since '99
I wouldn't say that by any means as today's new collectors see beauty in the older cards. I was at a show yesterday and have Lebron, Brady and Jeter rookies in my showcase among other things. There were two guys who looked to be in their late teens come up to my tablee and instead asked about the Gretzky rookie I have. Also, their was young kid who couldn't be more than 8 or 9 exclaim to his dad, "Look, Ty Cobb!" when he saw the Red Cobb in my showcase.
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That's great to hear! Timeless icons such as Cobb.
His contributions to baseball and many others are still recognized.
Ken Goldin says he sold two more PSA 10 1986 Jordan's today for $720K each. I guess there's gonna be 316 new millionaires added to the world very soon.
https://twitter.com/Posty1x/status/1356022741959368705?s=20
It's coming...no doubt that a million dollars will be breached.
Just turned 40 myself and I think my handle says what my opinion is lol.
Every generation will gravitate to all time greats.
87 MJ 10 just sold for 50k. New high.
Crap like this is absolutely ruining the hobby. What collector can ever dream of getting a Jordan '86 Fleer, or any other popular card now-a-days? They've become completely unaffordable to the rank-and-file collector, due to the greediness of Wall Street investors with too much money and shit for brains! A year ago, '86 Fleer Jordans were around $30K each. Last month, one sold for $215K, which was insane. Now in one month, Jordans have increased another 500%? There is no friggin' way these prices can be sustained! It will completely destroy the entire hobby!
Steve
About 17-18 years ago someone stole my raw 86 Fleer basketball set. The Jordan was probably an 8. I think I know who took it but could never prove it so I just let it go. Now I with I had done more to fine the set.
i don't know if i agree in its entirety. true collectors collect. that's what we do. switch gears and zig while others zag. and if that's not enough, no where is it written that you MUST have a jordan 10 or nothing. no one is ever truly priced out of collecting. collecting the best of the best and/or trying to keep up w the jonses is an unnecessary pressure that one casts upon themself.
PSA 8 just went for $28K and PSA 9 for $73K. Wow.
Just about everyone has been priced out of owning a 52 Mantle even in a PSA 1 but that doesn't mean there aren't other cards to collect. Mid grade Jordan's can still be had for decent prices but yeah, the ship on the 9's and even the 8's have sailed for many. I feel like if someone really wanted one, then they would have picked one up long time ago. I know I had plenty of chances to pick up 9's over the years. Same with Jeter SP. The PSA 9 was sitting under 3K for what, ...25 years? I mean c'mon now. lol
Even the tertiary Jordan cards are insane. 1987 Jordan sticker tripled in 3 weeks.
If anyone wanted a Jordan now or in the future the investors are making it where you better have some $$ saved up. Most knew this card would go up, but nobody expected in one year for it to go from $2k to $27k in a year.
Evidently this Michael Jordan promo card is now sweeping the country~chain linked basket for added street cred............. a PSA 10 just hit 35k. It's an '85.
Nice rear end too...... for a tall boy.....at the bottom right of the card it says "not for resale"..... we'll see.
the same card in PSA 8 just had two auctions end at $2100 & $2200...Crazy times.
I’ve been keeping an eye on his PSA 8 1987 & 1988 Stickers and even those have taken a decent jump lately. The 87 PSA 8 sticker has hit $1500 while the 1988 sticker in PSA 8 has crossed over 1k a few times. It’s a great time to be holding early Jordan cards right now.
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
After seeing a Nike PSA 10 sell for 35K I mentioned this a few days back in a different thread, last January these same PSA 10’s were selling for $1000-1400,
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
@erikthredd ....January '21 or '20?? lol
Spike Lee is going to have to get himself his "10" soon for the back of his vault.
January 2020. PSA 10s went from $1000-1400 to 31k-35k in just 12 months.
Eric
Erikthredd’s MJ Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/publishedset/395035
Erikthredd’s Nike Air Jordan Collection: https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/basketball/key-card-sets/nike-poster-cards-michael-jordan-1985-1992/alltimeset/408486
@erikthredd ...At least it took a whole year......lol. I was not kidding when I asked if it could have been '21... seriously ... this card is in the "Pop Art" category and honestly I would not be surprised to see it continue to rise in the environment we are in .... "shoot first ask questions later".......100k coming for a PSA 10 ??
I’m wondering what the Jordan GJ13S at Heritage is going to end at. Personally I’d rather have that than a rookie. They rarely come up for sale. The 288k it’s at looks like a bargain now considering many hardcore Jordan guys see it as the holy grail. A PMG green would be interesting to see now too.
I understand what you're saying, but, if you want an '86 Fleer Jordan now, what do you do?
PSA 4 - Sold tonight on ebay for $7,350
PSA 3 - Sold tonight on ebay for $5,524
PSA 2 - Sold on Jan 23rd on ebay for $2,340
PSA 1 - Sold on Jan 10th on ebay for $2,136
So, if you want a Jordan, it's a minimum $2K card now, in the lowest condition.
That's not even considering all the other cards that investors have caused to go berserk price-wise. Again, this cannot be sustained, and the hobby, if it does continue, will be destroyed!
Steve
See my post above this one.
PSA 1s are going for over $2K!!! That is utter insanity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Steve
The BGS 9 Star 101 at Heritage is out of the gate hot.
And for what it’s worth I was offered $6000 last week for this lowly PSA 1...
1s with pinholes are rarely "lowly".
No. It won't be destroyed. Please quit with the hyperbole.
i don't. i'm good. picked my 10 and this up years ago. i mean, cmon...it's michael jordan for christ's sake:
@SDSportsFan
you seem to just want to kick rocks. but maybe there's a good hobby lesson to be learned here, steve. in that he who hesitates, masterbates. and i say that with love. it's the ones that get away that haunt us. best to learn from it than get salty and go all doomsday on us.
How many sports players have their image or silhouette associated with a major sports company such as Nike? Only Michael Jordan! He's a modern day icon, on par in popularity with legendary icons like Babe Ruth and the Mick!
I always notice how the ones who say that ‘prices can’t be sustained’ or that the ‘bottom will fall out’ are the ones who never own the cards. I’ve been hearing it non stop over the years but yet, prices always keep climbing no matter what. It’s a matter of simple economics. Supply and demand and the demand outweighs the supply. Once one comes to realization that their are new players in the game, people who have way more money out there than we do, it doesn’t become that hard to understand.
Prices will eventually get to a point wheres a lot of people will say enough is enough and things will certainly slow down but for now, it continues to be full steam ahead.
@blurryface, what would the Crisser think about all this.😃😃😃
Yes, prices are high. The truly high end has been trending this way for years. Anyone who has been a collector for numerous years have had multiple opportunities to purchase a '86 Jordan. I'll go out on a limb and say: "nobody saw this coming". Mo money, nostalgia, supply and demand. Why do we "collect" in the first place? Is it about financial gain, childhood memories, loving a team or player, etc.? I've never purchased a '86 Jordan but pack ripped 4 out of 3 for a dollar packs from the Safeway store back in the day. Gave 2 away to friends--- yes, gave them away. Sold 1 and graded it for another friend (PSA 8). Kept and graded the best centered (PSA 7). Did I leave $$ on the table, bring happiness to 3 friends, create memories? Yes, yes and yes. Do I regret it? No, never look back...... these sort of memories and fun are why I collect.
crisser is pretty brilliant actually. he got himself banned intentionally so he couldn't face the music. 😉
I try to listen to good investment advice but you can’t get them all right. One guy spent the entire night in a bar telling me to ‘buy the dips’ and when I got home tipsy, I did just that...
Not my best investment but certainly the tastiest!!!
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I don't worry about the prices for the Jordan-level cards at all.
I worry about people paying thousands for Mahomes or Justin Herbert. Say Mahomes blows out a knee, misses a year, comes back but is never the same. He's not a HOFer at this point - just an exceptionally good QB for a short window. Would his card values hold up over the next 6, 7, 8 years? I highly doubt it.
^^^ there she is!
one of my favorite episodes
The speculation group have always worked alongside investors of HoF-level talent. History is littered with "sure fire" prospects who flamed out (Dwight Gooden comes to mind immediately). These players were collected as were players like Mantle.
However, using Mahomes (super bowl winner) with Herbert (who is nothing more than a prospect who has done nothing) undermines your point. Herbert is by far a more speculation buy than Mahomes.
I would suggest Mahomes is already better than just “exceptionally good”.
If he wins Sunday and doesn’t play again, he might make the HOF.
I mean, sure, Mahomes has done more than Herbert, so the latter is far more speculation. But people are currently paying big bucks for both and Mahomes has only been starting for 3 years.
In response to a different post, no. A QB who has only played 3 years shouldn't make the HOF.
My Mahomes comment was a bit hyperbole. But, 2 SB rings and little else (see Eli) punches your ticket. And yes, Eli is a sure thing.